Topic: A BTC trading model for sale. Profit $132517 (one BTC) during 2021/1/1~2021/9/19 (Read 240 times)

I've offered Model001 as free. I'm curious how does the donation system work?

Dear Sam
I've sold the original model to someone in a high price so that I can't sell it at a lower price because that's not fair to previous buyer. What I'm selling now is model002 and I took all your advice to low the price to $100. The free model001 is provided to check if my formula work or not. Model001 is original for sale but now I offer it as a vouch copy because I took all your advice. I know all members here are best of best in BTC trading field so if any advice is concerned about model please be kind to tell me. I'm a newbie here so I apologize if I didn't follow the rules here.
 

Yet again, instead of replying to us, you post another "formula" that is now free of charge ?

Are you still trying to sell your original one ?

Are you completely ignoring our concerns here ?

Please go ahead and answer everyone in this thread one by one before you continue to advertise

to be honest if the OP gives his tricks free of charge first to some members then he will get tens of times more profit in the future because it is certain that members who have succeeded will become promoters so that other members follow the advice of the OP's product.  but the trading model product that op offers doesn't look very convincing..

At this point it just looks like you are ignoring other users who are giving you constructive feedback.
Yet you are only updating your positions instead of replying to us or responding to the critics you have received.
You should rather take some time off, rethink your pricing model or give out free vouchers right now.
Otherwise you will lose more trust

Position update

2021/8/9         Long   43791.93
2021/8/10       Short   46280.85
2021/8/11       Long   45599.70
2021/8/12       Short   45576.88
2021/8/13         Long   44439.69
2021/8/14         Short   47810.69
2021/8/15       keep short position
2021/8/16         Long   47019.96
2021/8/17       keep long  position
2021/8/18       keep long  position
2021/8/19       keep long  position
2021/8/20         Short   46723.12
2021/8/21       keep short position
2021/8/22         Long   48869.11
2021/8/23       keep long  position
2021/8/24         Short   49562.35
2021/8/25         Long   47727.26
2021/8/26       Short   49002.64
2021/8/27         Long   46894.55
2021/8/28         Short   49072.59
2021/8/29       Long   48911.25
2021/8/30       Short   48834.85
2021/8/31       Long   47024.34
2021/9/1         Short   47099.77
2021/9/2        keep short position
2021/9/3        keep short position
2021/9/4        keep short position
2021/9/5        keep short position
2021/9/6        keep short position
2021/9/7        keep short position
2021/9/8         Long   46827.76
2021/9/9        keep long  position
2021/9/10         Short   46396.66
2021/9/11         Long   44869.84
2021/9/12      Short   45206.63
2021/9/13       keep short position
2021/9/14       Long   44960.05
2021/9/15       Short   47134.28
2021/9/16       keep short position
2021/9/17       Long   47771
2021/9/18       keep long  position
2021/9/19       Short   48266.34

I had the experiences of getting disappointments when a strategy works perfect in backtest and working different in real time. This may be because of the reason of ever-changing volatile nature of market fluctuations. It means market volatility is something which cannot be expected to remain same for all the time frames. This is the reason, most pro traders ignores the performance tracks of back-tests.

Could you please furnish any method to verify the same? I guess rather than going simply with your words anything which is cross check-able would be more effective for anyone who shows interest on your trading model.

I would only suggest to OP that you can give some type of special membership to at least 50 Bitcointalk users, so that they can test it and give faith and guarantee of your created model, only then can you demonstrate that your model is unique and effective, and yes It turns out like this, what I recommend is that you can take it to the board of the forum that is "Services" so that you can offer it more successfully, but just with your words it is very difficult, here what is proven works more than what is it states.

It’s really hilarious. I don't know the effectivity of this trading model. Maybe it’s working very well or it’s just a fraud. Okay let's think positive that it’s working well according to op explains. But I don't think the price would be something like one btc or 50k$. Let's be realistic man. Seems you are flaying in Air.

I remember someone quote in my class about selling something. He says that rather than selling a product, let say, $100 but don't have many buyers, it is better to sell $1-$5 but have many buyers. That is called a strategy and marketing to selling a product. I think OP has a goal to achieve and he thinks that he can earn a lot of money from his strategy. Maybe he can to consider lowering the price to see how many buyers will interest in his method.

Since you won't lose any money by other people using your strategy for free, you should still consider it.
If noone buys and confirms your working strategy you will make a total of 0$ in this forum.
If you give out your model for free to three users and they confirm that they made profit, you will have a lot of people asking to buy from you!
1BTC is still way too much. Consider lowering the price to 100$-200$, sell a few copies and reinvest the money and you will be good to go.

Hm, you are just confirming what everyone here doubts. Your method is risky just like any gambling game. so why would anyone pay such big money, for some possible strategy, which promises nothing more than ordinary roulette? btw. you, as its creator, say is risky.
1 BTC (currently $48000) is too much even for your strategy to have very low risk. I guess, it's better to share it for free and wait for some donations. You will earn more on that way.

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Position update

2021/8/9         Long   43791.93
2021/8/10       Short   46280.85
2021/8/11       Long   45599.70
2021/8/12       Short   45576.88
2021/8/13         Long   44439.69
2021/8/14         Short   47810.69
2021/8/15       keep short position
2021/8/16         Long   47019.96
2021/8/17       keep long  position
2021/8/18       keep long  position
2021/8/19       keep long  position
2021/8/20         Short   46723.12
2021/8/21       keep short position
2021/8/22         Long   48869.11
2021/8/23       keep long  position
2021/8/24         Short   49562.35
2021/8/25         Long   47727.26
2021/8/26       Short   49002.64
2021/8/27         Long   46894.55
2021/8/28         Short   49072.59
2021/8/29       Long   48911.25
2021/8/30       Short   48834.85
2021/8/31       Long   47024.34
2021/9/1         Short   47099.77
2021/9/2        keep short position
2021/9/3        keep short position
2021/9/4        keep short position
2021/9/5        keep short position
2021/9/6        keep short position
2021/9/7        keep short position
2021/9/8         Long   46827.76
2021/9/9        keep long  position
2021/9/10         Short   46396.66
2021/9/11         Long   44869.84
2021/9/12      Short   45206.63
2021/9/13       keep short position
2021/9/14       Long   44960.05
2021/9/15       Short   47134.28
2021/9/16       keep short position

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJDXk5duzolot5ZftXytAGJO4XHDSOOZ/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true

You can find the number or data I used in following websites:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BTC-USD/history?p=BTC-USD
https://coincodex.com/crypto/bitcoin/historical-data/
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/cryptocurrency/btc/historical

My model only use daily open,high,low,close. You can find real time data on the websites I provided.
After you enter daily data you can trade immediately at next opening price.
Or you can make a excel dde link than you won't have to enter data and excel will calculate automatically.
That says, you can enter data at BST 24:00 and trade immediately at BST 00:01.

 

I have many models so selling one of them to bring me income is beneficial to me.
So far I don't have 100k$ so I'm here selling my knowledge.
Thanks for your response!

Sorry for reply late because I am busy at work.
I've replied you earlier that maybe I can make a trial version. Just give me some time.
Thanks for your response!

I have to say any backtesting is not a guaranty for further profit. All that traders can do before trading is reasonably analyze data and take the risk to make trading decision. For me income for sure from sales is better then profit from risky trading.

I've sold 1 model to a buyer and that's a good begging.
Trading is always risky no matter how many research traders have done before trading. I prefer income for sure so I'm here selling my model instead of getting a loan and trading. Actually I'm following my model to trade but it's just a small money and the profit is too small to reach my financial goal. Income from sales will help me reach my goal more quickly.
Thanks for your response!

Thanks for your advice.
What I think is that if I send others vouch copies then they will know the formula and then they won't have to buy it .
I have many model including currency, stock, index products. Selling one of them will bring me income for sure and that is better than profit from risky trading.

Let me think. Maybe I can make a trial version. Give me some time to do this.

Thanks  for sharing, the price intervals are too small.
1. Many exchanges might not have seen the number you've posted
2. By the time signal is generated, when user can react to signal, the market could have moved completely away already.

I completely agree with this comment...why sell a model of your success? this leads to some serious doubts ...if you have earned about 100 k$, why sell for 1 bts? Another person would never have told anyone about it....author you will not find a burdock on this forum...which will give you 1 bts.

If you want to get a reputation here and want to sell your formula to members in this forum, you should really consider answering the questions above and giving out vouch copies for reputable members to test.

If it is actually profitable, you will have no problem selling it (and also no need to, to be honest)

Position update

2021/9/15     Short @ 47134.28    

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJDXk5duzolot5ZftXytAGJO4XHDSOOZ/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true

did I understand correctly that you did not test this model using real money?
Also, your model is tested only once by your side?

do you realize how uncertain it is to claim "the model works so far" just after one test by your side in a simulation? someone has already suggested it to you, take a loan from the bank and start in real with your method, I don't see an obstacle if you're so sure everything works perfectly.

It may not be fraud, but come on, be realistic. This is the internet. Whom do you think would pay 1 BTC currently at $46,000 for a strategy that was just back tested but wasn't used in a real trading scenario?

If you are 100% confident about your trading strategy, just get a loan, and you will make huge returns out of it.

So how is your strategy used? Through a trading bot?

If you are really interested in selling so models, you should not:

• Give a vouch copy for some trusted people: Send free copies to them and after they check that everything works well and legally you can sell or promote it.
  
• Make it for free for the first 50 members of your choice: You can offer the form for several members.

 why do you want to promote your special model if you are profitable and you are a good amount of money and is reliable, not the best to make a loan and then pay part of the amounts you win?

I‘d be willing to test out your method for a bit (2-4 weeks should be sufficient). If it‘s profitable, I will pay you afterwards and vouch for you here.
Let me know if you are interested.

Dear Sam

Actually I'm following my model to trade 0.1 BTC. Today I open a long position at 45075.88 and market price now is 46889. As you can see on the sample I provided, there is a "Long" signal on 9/14. Following is my trading record.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XJbMJqJmc2nIF19QQ8jte_tQqlZ4LdNN/view?usp=sharing

I wanna raise more fund to enlarge input so that I can achieve my profit goal as soon as possible. Exposing my model to the public won't be a problem to trade. Actually I plan to offer more models to sell such as following:

AMD model
Profit $181 per share as stock price change from 49=>105 during 2020/5/4~2021/9/13. Sample is as following:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MaePrNgwPnIQdqGT85IE3rmXyhwJDbU8/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true

TESLA model
Profit $2134 per share as stock price change from 140=>740 during 2020/5/4~2021/9/13. Sample is as following:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DN53BAuuqGHk1Af0cuIQoMaypcieli99/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true

As I said before, I'm serious and this is not a fraud. Please feel free to ask more questions. Thank You!

Can you explain further what is stopping you from using your own trading model ?

If you were to make consistant profits with it, you should be able to start with as little as 1000$ and build up your balance without exposing your strategy/model to the public.

I established AlanTradeModel002-BTC on 2021/8/9 by using Coincodex database of 2021/1/1~2021/8/9 to perform backtest and it earned $109807 per BTC including Long and Short trades. During 2021/8/10~2021/9/19 the model earns $22710.
Sample:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16PLR-a_ok5E8_Vz0qppUOg0DZRujaREC/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true
  

Why am I here to sell my model? Personally I prefer income for sure rather than profit from risky trading so I'm here selling my knowledge.

My model is not 100% profitable but you can amend it to be a better one with your own knowledge.

You'll get an Excel file with formula and simply input some daily data (Open, High, Low, Close) then you'll know when to buy or sell.

The model only trades when market open at open price. Very simple. You can follow the model to trade or amend my formula to be a better one.  

Buyers can not resell my model to others.

This is not a fraud. Please feel free to contact me if you're interested in my model and willing to know more detail.

AlanTradeModel002-BTC for sale at $100


For buyers to know more about my formula style, I offer a free BTC model AlanTradeModel001
Backtest 2021/1/1~2021/8/9 profit $75778
After backtest profit $22294 during 2021/8/10~2021/9/19
Free download as following:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16q5qT1-31Nc6t_y1xzD8zKCUgStc_nUW/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106729691818939844470&rtpof=true&sd=true