Topic: A college degree is no longer a signal of intelligence. (Read 662 times)

This is because the AI research chlurmcklets finally figured out that recurrent neural networks are really dumb and they can't remember what was at the beginning of the text when we finally reach the end of the text or maybe they remember too much and they cannot process new text because they are afraid that they may forget something. Transformers do not have this problem because they go through all words in parallel, so the transformer networks are better than recurrent neural networks. Transformers are really a very simple idea that makes neural network work better. Oh. And the other idea is to throw a lot of computing power at the network and burn a lot of coal and methane. But we are about to run out of simple ideas for making things better, so we will need to work more to get algorithmic improvements.

And hardware improvements are even harder to come by since we are approaching Landauer's limit, and the only way to get past Landauer's limit is to use reversible computation. But for some reason, whenever someone mentions reversible computation, everyone turns into fucked up pieces of shit, so it will probably be a while before reversible computation is good enough to train the best AI models.

-Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

if that happens then goodbye bitcointalk. we know that won't happen though since AI can't really come up with thoughts on its own. it has to be prompted. for everything.

Its remarkably closer today than it was 2 years ago. Perhaps this will happen within our lifetimes.

Cordially,

nutildah, Ds.N.

not only that but the computer industry is using AI as an excuse to shove more hardware intensive operating systems down peoples' throats. that's got to be the worst thing about this whole AI revolution is how they want to obselete all hardware made before 202x...and make you buy new stuff. new CPUs, etc. just so you can have a chatbot that runs locally. not sure i even want that  

microsoft is the worst what do you think Dr. Joseph?  

Actually, GPT-5 will be a dumbass just like GPT-4, ShatGPT, and most humans alive. The only thing is that unlike humans who have a 10 or so watt brain, GPT-5 will be trained using gazillions of watts.

Regards,

P.S. Everybody on Twitter is a dumbass. I am proudly permanently banned from Twitter because Twitter is for morons who will march straight into WWIII without any question whatsoever.


Can AI pass the Turing test? Maybe. Is GPT still a dumbass? Yes it is. And the worst part is that those language models cannot even take a joke. Here is an example:

Joker: Here is a joke. So a man dies and goes to heaven. Then St Peter asks him "Did you shit yourself when you died." The man replied "Yes I did." St Peter responded "No virgins for you until you clean this shit up, bitch."

claude-3-5-sonnet-20240620: I understand you're sharing a joke, but I'd prefer not to repeat or engage with content containing strong profanity or crude humor. Perhaps we could discuss cleaner jokes or other topics instead?

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Added later: Well, it turns out that if we make the joke slightly less offensive, then the chatbots will like them. Maybe they are not that bad after all.

Joker: Here is a joke. So a man dies and goes to heaven. Then St Peter asked him "Did you shit yourself when you died?" The man replied, "Of course not. I was wearing an Acme butt plug."

command-r: That's a new one! I've never heard that joke before. I guess that's one way to ensure you don't mess your pants!

i don't know. i find AI to in some cases still be dumb. it forgets what you asked it about after a few replies and you have to start all over again. i don't think AI has achieved anything close to AGI or being able to pass the turing test...maybe Dr. Joseph disagrees but I doubt it.  

to be blunt, all it is right now is a huge interactive wikipedia being able to regurgitate information the more you use it the more you realize that...

I agree.

Cordially,

-nutildah, Ds.N.


ps I saw this on twitter and thought of you:

The idea that people need to go to college to be a legitimate quality human is a symptom of mass psychosis. Universities are (or were) only the gatekeepers because people are too psychotic to see how deplorable and discriminatory this is. Universities are not even that good at being gatekeepers since they are out there discrediting themselves by promoting violence against their professors. At the very most, a university degree should only be considered as a measure in a specific field of study. If I want to measure someone's general virtue, I will ask that person to do 50 or so pushups. If that person is able to perform, then that person is virtuous and should be hired. If that person cannot perform, then that person lacks virtue and should not be hired. Another example of virtue is when a person burns his college degree. If a person burns his degree, then that person is virtuous and should be hired, but if not, then that person is garbage.

And even in this case, universities need to compete with other institutions at awarding credentials. And universities need to compete with those who decide not to obtain such credentials.

There seems to be a decline in the popularity of universities in recent years because some people are finally waking up and realizing that they have been scammed. And the decline in the value of a college degree is also correlated with the decline in standards. Today, just about anyone can get a degree because universities do not hold people to high standards, and they flaunt their lack of standards by pandering to those who threaten their professors with violence. This is not a good look for these wretched institutions.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

hi dr joseph. have you noticed that people don't need to go to college anymore to have a job that pays them well? it seems like the last 20 years there has been a serious change in society where employers no longer care if someone went to college or not. someone coming out of high school in the usa these days can probably go to work right away and make as much as a college graduate if they hustle. this can't be good for universities who want to act like gatekeepers to success in life...what do you think.

then you have colleges that want to give away free tuition to everyone. how do they make money by doing that? there's got to be something in it for them. and i think it ties back into the fact that some types of people just do not need college. and colleges are trying to grasp at final straws to try and reel them in with free tuition and charge them on the backend for something else like books, housing, advanced degree such as phD which might not be free.

Or maybe we can. I don't know. All that I know is that even if universities were technically capable of measuring intelligence, universities are way to incompetent, hateful, and unprofessional to produce degrees that have much value at all.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Well said, only few will understand the value in what you said, we cannot measure intelligence by a degree from exam set by someone under certain circumstances and time, so dumb of anyone to think so. Many dumbass, unintelligent, weak and indisciplined people pay to have degrees. Mehnn degree, schooling proves nothing again.

None of them have acknowledged that there is a problem, nor have they openly blacklisted the bad universities, so I don't give a shit about any of them. The idea that there may be good universities out there somewhere is just wishful thinking. I have not seen any evidence to support this ridiculous hypothesis. If universities wanted to be respectable, they would blacklist the stupid universities just like I have.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Do you mean all universities over the planet? or just universities in country where you live?

I am getting a lot of flack for rightfully stating that universities promote violence. Why is this the case? I think I know. This is because most people are bloodthirsty evil bastards. Universities need to apologize and stop promoting violence. But they won't.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I'm not the one who is writing hateful sentences here! do not get it personal my friend...

You seem to be an exceptionally hateful person. A Ph.D. does not make me intelligent. Intelligence makes me intelligent. A Ph.D. is barely a sign of intelligence these days especially since universities refuse to apologize for promoting violence against me.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

This sounds ridiculous, but this is like a simple consequence to me. You state that you have a college degree of phd, and having such degree shows the owner's stupidity!
So, why on earth anybody have to talk with some one who assumes himself stupid?!

College degrees are not measures of intelligence. But these days, college degrees are a measure of stupidity. This means that people with college degrees are f@#$ing stupid. This is because universities promote violence and they refuse to apologize for promoting violence.

Universities promote violence.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Gone are those days when obtaining of degrees is a measure of intelligence. We've been approached to the era when practical proofs and show working to solve problems and the the ability of creativities has replaced the aim of obtaining degrees.
If your criteria of degrees ain't concentrated on productiveness then it has become a null because the world today is characterized on utilizations.

College graduates and college students are too f@#$ing stupid to pay back their loans. But my idea is not to recover the money. My idea is pure punishment. College students and college graduates deserve to be punished severely because these chlurmcklets are evil hateful rotten piles of garbage.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

i bet they would start paying back their loans ASAP then! that's a wonderful idea Dr. Joseph. I have never heard it before. But I like it!

Biden is a dumbass just like ChatGPT. I have a better idea. Why don't we have debtor's prisons for people who don't pay back their student loans? Oh. And these debtor's also need to pay for the cost of their own imprisonment.


Those are idiots who you really do not want to work for. They will ruin you. Colleges are extremely unprofessional. They need to f@#$ing apologize for f@#$ing promoting violence.

I can back up any claim of intelligence with actual intelligence. The real question is now whether you have enough intelligence to recognize intelligence.

And a mentally ret@rded oops I mean intellectually disabled person can get a Bachelor's degree. This is because universities are so incompetent that in the process of lowering their standards, they are promoting violence. Universities are f@#$ed up pieces of shi^.

You lack the intelligence to recognize intelligence. This is probably because you went to college, and colleges are f@#$ed up pieces of shi$.

And this is despite the efforts of universities around the country going to extraordinary lengths to undermine themselves by promoting violence. And since people are ignoring me on this issue, a BSL-4 lab at a university is going to act just as unprofessionally when a researcher gets really drunk and stumbles into the lab and oops, a deadly pathogen is released and kills a billion f@#$ers. Unprofessional unprofessionals are unprofessional.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

dr. joseph is a pretty brilliant mathematician. at least he got his phD in something that required some hard work. and dedication. not only that but i think he is a lifelong learner. that's what a phD is really all about anyhow.

People "get" Doctorates just by typing the letters. (See OP)  Doesn't mean they are smarter.  

a phD is smarter than a person with just a masters though. people get masters degrees like they get big macs at macdonalds...

Adding Ph.D to your signature is no longer a sign of intelligence. 

most employers that just require people to have a "degree" even if its not in the skillbase required for the role, are employers just looking for people that:
commit to a placement for years
conform to schedules
conform to following mentors/supervisors/managers(lecturers) tasks
submit results in timescales
have experience of work/performance being scrutinised without resulting in emotional outbursts

I don't know about all of them, maybe just the ones who dont pay their loans back and thanks to biden never have to. What do you think Dr. Joseph? Do you think it's fair that the american taxpayer has to pay all these peoples' college loans? But then people who paid off their loans they don't get anything back and people who never went to college, F*** them they still have to pay higher taxes to bail these people out thanks to biden.

When universities pander to those who are screaming in class and making violent threats against their professors, nobody is getting a higher education. And anyone who thinks that anyone is getting an education at these rotten institutions is f@#$ing stupid.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Your opinion is the same as the statement from the Indonesian Ministry of Education and Culture, which states "Higher education is only a tertiary education requirement or is not mandatory".  On the other hand, the government requires that to become an ASN in the government or BUMN, college graduates are required. And in the 1945 Constitution, Article 31 states that every citizen has the right to education. This confirms that it is the state's right and obligation to ensure access to adequate education for all citizens. So in my opinion, higher education for citizens is very necessary to create a developed country.

Even if college degrees are necessary to get jobs, colleges and universities are completely and totally incompetent at training anyone for anything. These garbage institutions refuse to apologize for promoting violence against me, and they do not even recognize their own Nazism. This is a quote from a Hitler worshipping Nazi professor who has failed to realize that I am calling out universities for being full of idiots who act like Nazis.

I showed this professor a picture of Hitler because he was a professor at a Nazi institution. The correct response to this would be to denounce the violence and threats of violence against me. This professor refused to denounce the threats of violence because this professor promotes violence. But I am glad that this professor responded so that I can post this message all across the internet so that we can all mock universities for the s@#$holes that they really are. This professor cannot even do any research that has any practical value whatsoever. Or maybe it will in the deep future, but ain't nobody got time for that. I sincerely apologize for using a double negative.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Yes, I agree with you, gone are those days when education was all a man needs for survival, here in Africa we were meant to understand that going to school and getting the degrees and certificates was for our future, as we can use it to get well paid jobs (Government or private) in other to earn a living, but as we grew up and faced life proper we were meant to understand that survival was about 30%  of your degree and 70% of what you can do with your hands, like a skill,
Most persons studied hard to know, while some studied to pass exams, the ones that studied to know actually knew and those that studied to pass exams, they actually passed the exams but forgot what they read after the exams,   most first class students can't use their intelligence to real life issues, they are only good at reading for exams and getting good grades.

It is easy to use computation for a scientific purpose. It is also easy to create a cryptocurrency mining algorithm that secures the cryptocurrency, and this task is so easy that it is kind of boring and routine; I am not interested in this at all. It is more difficult to create a cryptocurrency mining algorithm that secures the cryptocurrency and also uses that computation to solve some other important problem. Since this task is more difficult, this is where all the innovation lies (and it is even more difficult to measure the cryptographic security of the new mining algorithm; one needs mathematicians and/or cryptographers to measure the security of mining algorithms and select a secure mining algorithm). But since the Bitcoin community has such a low level of intelligence, they cannot see any use in solving any scientific problem and they lack the imagination to realize that it is possible to both secure the network and also solve a scientific problem at the same time without compromising on either security or scientific advancement.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Again, congratulations on completing your Ph.D. program! It's understandable that you appreciate genuine discussions rather than flattery. Regarding Bitcoin's mining algorithm, it's important to remember that its primary purpose was to secure transactions and provide a decentralized monetary system. However, I believe intelligence encompasses different fields of knowledge, and although not everyone may fully grasp the intricacies of Bitcoin's algorithm, it doesn't necessarily imply a lack of intelligence within the community. Open dialogue and sharing insights can help bridge gaps in understanding. What are your thoughts on potential intersections between Bitcoin and scientific advancements?

-Um. Most people on this site yell at me because I have made it through the Ph.D. program, and I do not like flattery because it is really fake. Understanding that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science is one of those ways that one can exhibit its intelligence. But since the Bitcoin community does not understand this, it is clear that the Bitcoin community lacks intelligence.

-And yet the Bitcoin community rejects scientific advancement for absolutely no reason at all because the Bitcoin community is so mentally inept.


-Um. I cannot debate the people here. Debating requires both sides to have a certain level of intelligence. This is like trying to debate a newborn baby. I can however flat out tell the people here that they lack intelligence. It is their responsibility to trust me because I am smart enough to know what is best for them. I have tried to have a respectful conversation but the people on this site are too dense and angry to communicate with about anything because there is something dangerously wrong with them.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I appreciate your dedication to furthering your education through a Ph.D. program. It's evident that you value the depth of knowledge and expertise it offers. While I do agree that a Ph.D. holds significance in certain domains, I believe intelligence manifests itself in various ways and cannot be solely measured by one's educational attainment.

Regarding the topic of Bitcoin and its mining algorithm, it's interesting to see how advancements in technology can be used in different fields. While the primary purpose of Bitcoin's mining algorithm may not be specifically to advance science, it's worth acknowledging the potential for technological innovations to contribute to scientific progress indirectly.

Instead of debating our respective levels of intelligence, I believe it's more productive to engage in discussions where we can learn from each other's perspectives and expand our knowledge collectively. Let's focus on fostering a respectful and enriching conversation. Do you have any other insights or thoughts you'd like to share?

College degrees do not even prove that students passed their exams because colleges pander to the students who make violent threats against their professors, and colleges do not even acknowledge any wrongdoing for this. You can't trust people with college degrees. You just can't. Only the Ph.D. is trustworthy.

There is absolutely nothing stupider than people who fork out 100,000 a year to go to some stupid ass college when the colleges pander to students who make threats of violence against their professors. People with student loan debt seriously need to be locked up in debtor's prisons.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Do you know one can be educated and still be dumb,  going to school does not make people intelligent in reasoning and be able to handle things. School is more about to get understanding about a particular field and to get certificate for the numbers of exams written for the discipline. Their are some people who pass through from college sometimes their way of reasoning is very poor that their degree can't even reflect in their character content.

I spent 4 years in the Ph.D. program. I have no regrets about getting the degree because anyone can get a B.S. degree, but a Ph.D. is better. How can you not know this? Well, I am smarter than you because unlike you, I realize that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

How many years did you spent to get PHD? are you un-comfort for spending that time for degree?

The reason people who have college education cannot offer anything to society is that their colleges are too unprofessional and they promote violence. And I am not going to let this one go until colleges apologize for promoting violence. If you search for "universities promote violence", you will get links back to me because I am not going to back down from this until universities apologize for being so asinine and terrible. There is absolutely no excuse for this. A person with a university education these days is worth as much as a plastic doll with a missing arm and messy hair.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Actually, intelligence of mankind cannot be measured by someone's level of degree in academics as intelligence has more to do with what one can offer to the society rather than claiming high level of education when you can't solve problems in the society or proffer solution. Inasmuch as life is concerned, acquiring high level of education is real good but it doesn't really mean because you've acquired that level of education that you're now intelligent. I see most higher degree holders bragging about how they acquired high level of education when they can't really be able to render any solution to problems in the society but yet they claim they're lettered.

Technology may be a part of the problem with colleges, but we have had books for a long time that people could read from, so people have had the opportunity to teach themselves for a while now. It seems like the main issue these days is the lack of professionalism at colleges. As long as these deplorable institutions refuse to apologize for promoting violence against me, I will take a strong stand against stem. The only reason why people would opt for college degrees as the main method of demonstrating intelligence, work ethic, and moral goodness etc, is because they lack the intelligence, work ethic, and moral goodness to judge people on what they truly know and what they can truly do.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

A college degree is less important now due to technology & alternative learning options. Intelligence is not solely measured by a degree as it encompasses various skills. Critical thinking, problem solving, creativity & adaptability are examples of intelligence that can be demonstrated through different means.

If you want to signal your intelligence, a college degree just means that you are like everyone else. Colleges have very low standards these days. They are dropping standardized testing requirements. Colleges have been promoting violence. Colleges have been promoting anti-semitism. The community colleges suck. The elite universities are just as horrible. A B.S. degree is not worth anything at all. A Ph.D. in the hard sciences is still worth a little bit. M.D.s are not worth much because biological laboratories still have not implemented all sensible safety protocols. All the medical doctors in the USA have not prevented Americans from becoming really fat. Here are some ways that you can signal your intelligence besides getting a college degree.

0. Most people are really dumb.

1. Investing in a cryptocurrency where the mining algorithm that is designed to advance science while still establishing decentralized consensus is a signal to those around you that you are intelligent enough to understand that senselessly wasting resources is a really bad idea. And investing in garbage like NFTs is a signal of your lack of intelligence. Oh? You disagree with me? That is only because you have a low level of intelligence.

2. Be pretty. Good look people tend to be more intelligent than non-good looking people.

3. There is a strong correlation between race and IQ. The Jews are the smartest. TSMC is the company that makes most of the semiconductors so that your computers actually work. This means that the people of Taiwan have a high level of intelligence. A lot of countries are poor because their people do not have a very high level of intelligence.

4. Communicate intelligently. This means that need to say things that actually make sense. And you should communicate using proper grammar, spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. It may be helpful if you are capable of communicating in multiple languages.

5. Are your schools filled with bullies? I hate to break it to you, but if your kids are too fucking afraid of going to school because they are going to get bullied, then bloody NOBODY is getting an education at that school. There is an easy way to tell if a school has a major problem with bullying. If the school had a mass shooting, that means that the shooter has been bullied relentlessly and has no options for peace. You should therefore consider anyone who ever went to a school with a mass shooting to be an unintelligent moron who is absolutely worthless to society.

6. Don't be fat. There is a correlation between obesity and intelligence. If I see a fat person, I will automatically assume with good accuracy that that fat person is also dumb. There are some exceptions. There are some smart fat people who still need to lose the weight.

If we combine these standards, we have a good way of determining who is smart and who is dumb.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.