A few questions about Perfect Money, Solid Trust Pay, & Payeer

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Quote from: Sariful7 on August 24, 2022, 02:32:31 PM

Perfect Money authority has deducted 5891.85 under the title Force Loan Return from my account U14597285 and sent it to another account on 05 June 2022. But they don't refund this money or gave any answer to my question. Please help me with this matter.

Please see the deducting link-https://prnt.sc/Btd-cDFSn96Z

My Perfect Money account U15338322 was hacked last June 18, 2021. After many messages and lots of damage, Perfect Money authority gave me the account back. After hacking my account, the hacker loaned $4100 with interest to this account against from credit exchange, but how did perfect money authority deduct $5891 from my U14597285 account? After paying off the loan there was a surplus of $1774 with which the hacker bought Payeer dollars on 06/06/2022 based on Batch No. 467008320 and 467008560. So I am demanding compensation of 1774 dollars from Perfect Money authority.

Please see the loan payment history and Payeer buying history- https://prnt.sc/9oLfrEUHjGuf

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Perfect Money authority has deducted 5891.85 under the title Force Loan Return from my account U14597285 and sent it another account on 05 June 2022. But they don't refund this money or gave any answer my for my question. Please help me for this matter.

Please see the deducting link-https://prnt.sc/Btd-cDFSn96Z

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Quote from: erikalui on April 08, 2017, 01:36:19 PM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 05, 2017, 08:14:17 PM

Hey, so I'm just double checking, SolidTrust Pay is at "solidtrustpay.com" and payeer is located at "payeer.com" right? If so then I will probably be registering an account with them both.

It's https://payeer.com/en/ and https://www.solidtrustpay.com/

Payeer is more like an exchange wallet compared to a payment wallet but it's very trustworthy as it's a recognized wallet. However, their exchange fees is 5% (if you need to convert your payeer cash into BTC) while withdrawing to your bank costs 11-15%. Similar to payeer, Advcash is also an irreversible payment method. You can load money via btc and the fee is lower than other payment modes.

Okay, thanks. Again, excuse my paranoia, I'd just hate to get the wrong website from my Google search and risk my money. My questions have been answered, thanks everyone.

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Quote from: phr0stbyt3 on April 08, 2017, 01:20:39 PM

Lol that's totally fine i have been using perfect money for more than 2 years i never kept so much money like max would be 100$ maybe for 7 days but i never faced any problems in terms of security and they will mostly not take your money. Just don't keep the funds in their wallet for a long time that's all

I'm not keen on risking losing my money if there are legit alternatives, even if the risk that they take my money is low.

Also, I would assume your a US citizen (I'd assume you are just because right now the reason I'm not registering is because I'm a US citizen and they block US citizens from registering).

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 05, 2017, 08:14:17 PM

Hey, so I'm just double checking, SolidTrust Pay is at "solidtrustpay.com" and payeer is located at "payeer.com" right? If so then I will probably be registering an account with them both.

It's https://payeer.com/en/ and https://www.solidtrustpay.com/

Payeer is more like an exchange wallet compared to a payment wallet but it's very trustworthy as it's a recognized wallet. However, their exchange fees is 5% (if you need to convert your payeer cash into BTC) while withdrawing to your bank costs 11-15%. Similar to payeer, Advcash is also an irreversible payment method. You can load money via btc and the fee is lower than other payment modes.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 05, 2017, 08:14:17 PM

Hey, so I'm just double checking, SolidTrust Pay is at "solidtrustpay.com" and payeer is located at "payeer.com" right? If so then I will probably be registering an account with them both.

Yes you can try both of them, payeer is accepted in most of the places where perfectmoney is accepted and their built in exchange service can help you alot. I think they also have deposit and withdraw option for bitcoin.

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Lol that's totally fine i have been using perfect money for more than 2 years i never kept so much money like max would be 100$ maybe for 7 days but i never faced any problems in terms of security and they will mostly not take your money. Just don't keep the funds in their wallet for a long time that's all

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Hey, so I'm just double checking, SolidTrust Pay is at "solidtrustpay.com" and payeer is located at "payeer.com" right? If so then I will probably be registering an account with them both.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 05, 2017, 04:08:04 PM

Quote from: erikalui on April 03, 2017, 03:56:34 PM

Many payment processors like Perfect Money, OKPay and Webmoney do not support US and do not allow residents of US to create an account due to the strict regulations of USA.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 05, 2017, 02:44:03 PM

I didn't knew earlier that PerfectMoney don't accept users from USA. If you need similar payment service with not reversible payments, you can try Payeer or OKPay. I'm not sure that these service accepts users from USA, but I didn't found anything about that on their FAQ.

As pointed out by erikalui I can't register an account with OKPay, but I might check out Payeer. Is Payeer reversible? I skimmed over their website, but I couldn't find an definite answer.

Payeer is non-reversible payment service.

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Quote from: erikalui on April 03, 2017, 03:56:34 PM

Many payment processors like Perfect Money, OKPay and Webmoney do not support US and do not allow residents of US to create an account due to the strict regulations of USA.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 05, 2017, 02:44:03 PM

I didn't knew earlier that PerfectMoney don't accept users from USA. If you need similar payment service with not reversible payments, you can try Payeer or OKPay. I'm not sure that these service accepts users from USA, but I didn't found anything about that on their FAQ.

As pointed out by erikalui I can't register an account with OKPay, but I might check out Payeer. Is Payeer reversible? I skimmed over their website, but I couldn't find an definite answer.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 05, 2017, 09:07:04 AM

Quote from: amacar2 on April 04, 2017, 11:35:53 AM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

Quote from: mkmdoc on April 05, 2017, 08:22:11 AM

If you are from the US than perfect money is not suited for people who lives in the US. They won't accept registration fromUS residents, already many members faced problems with company like Liberty Reserves, after that perfect money stopped registration for US members.

@mkmdoc pretty much summed it up, as a US citizen I’m not supposed to register an account with them. If I did then I’d risk losing any money in my account.

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Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

I’m mainly just looking for an irreversible payment processor to use on this forum. People generally are skeptical when I offer Paypal (and with good reason, as Paypal is reversible). I’m not looking to store large amounts of cash with them.

I didn't knew earlier that PerfectMoney don't accept users from USA. If you need similar payment service with not reversible payments, you can try Payeer or OKPay. I'm not sure that these service accepts users from USA, but I didn't found anything about that on their FAQ.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

I’ve seen a lot of people using Perfect Money on these forums, so I think I’m going to register an account with them to use when I trade on these forums. Anyway, for users who have used them, think you could answer a few questions for me:

The domain is perfectmoney.is, right?
Have you had any issues with them, and if so, how easily were they resolved?
Should I bother with verifying my account or should I just leave it unverified?
Would there be any issues since I’m in the US and they’re in Panama?
Is there anything I should know before I make an account that I might not know?

Please excuse my paranoia Wink

, thanks.

I've used PerfectMoney in the past months and I can verify that their domain is indeed perfectmoney.is. Its very weird that they are using that domain. I haven't had any problems with them and my account is verified. It would be better if you get it verified so that your daily limit will increase significantly. But if your are planning to use it in small transactions, leaving it unverified is also good. I don't think there will be any problem if you live in US.

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Quote from: amacar2 on April 04, 2017, 11:35:53 AM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

So far last one year using their service and yet now never faced any problem. Not necessary getting verified for transactions around small amount, but surely must better get verified using national ID or others verifies certificate. Using their service you're qualified to save some money and get instant payments other good features.

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Quote from: amacar2 on April 04, 2017, 11:35:53 AM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

Quote from: mkmdoc on April 05, 2017, 08:22:11 AM

If you are from the US than perfect money is not suited for people who lives in the US. They won't accept registration fromUS residents, already many members faced problems with company like Liberty Reserves, after that perfect money stopped registration for US members.

@mkmdoc pretty much summed it up, as a US citizen I’m not supposed to register an account with them. If I did then I’d risk losing any money in my account.

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Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

I’m mainly just looking for an irreversible payment processor to use on this forum. People generally are skeptical when I offer Paypal (and with good reason, as Paypal is reversible). I’m not looking to store large amounts of cash with them.

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If you are from the US than perfect money is not suited for people who lives in the US. They won't accept registration fromUS residents, already many members faced problems with company like Liberty Reserves, after that perfect money stopped registration for US members.

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Quote from: amacar2 on April 04, 2017, 11:35:53 AM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

i have perfect money verified account too more than 2 years and i have no big issue regarding my account but indeed you said is true that liberty reserve has makes many people losing their money and there is no guarantee perfect money will always be secure that's why to avoid the things that are not desirable i do not dare save all of my money into this payment prossesor and agreed with you that if i may to choose that bitcoin very much better

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Quote from: amacar2 on April 04, 2017, 11:35:53 AM

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

Even if it's been going for a long time it might be unstable. Perfect Money is used in basically all Ponzi schemes, in fact that's pretty much its main use (all Ponzi schemes take Perfect Money), so it's pretty dodgy regardless of whether it's reversible.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 04, 2017, 11:15:13 AM

I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

I am using perfect money for last 3 years without any problem and talking about solid trust pay they are pretty new than perfectmoney.

You better get verified in perfect money to save a lot in fees however if you like to protect your privacy than you can use them without getting verified.

Be careful on using them, read what had happened to liberty reserve few years back. PM is also similar to liberty reserve. Bitcoin is far better than any other centralized payment services to store your cash.

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Quote from: erikalui on April 03, 2017, 03:56:34 PM

Many payment processors like Perfect Money, OKPay and Webmoney do not support US and do not allow residents of US to create an account due to the strict regulations of USA. You can use Solid Trust Pay as well as many users here support this payment processor and it's again an irreversible payment. It's again a trusted payment processor like the ones I mentioned.

Okay cool. I was looking to get an account with Perfect Money I'd have an irreversible payment method, so I might check out Solid Trust Pay. Thanks for the info.

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Many payment processors like Perfect Money, OKPay and Webmoney do not support US and do not allow residents of US to create an account due to the strict regulations of USA. You can use Solid Trust Pay as well as many users here support this payment processor and it's again an irreversible payment. It's again a trusted payment processor like the ones I mentioned.

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Quote from: Hazir on April 02, 2017, 02:52:32 PM

~~Perfect Money is international service, AFAIK there is not problems for people from US to use the service.~~
From PM ToS 1.25 Use of Perfect Money system by US citizens and permanent residents is strictly prohibited. System reserves the right to block the registrations originating from the USA or from US citizens located abroad due to local laws and regulations. Any individual or company suspected of submitting false/misleading information with purpose of hiding US location or affiliation may be subject to account block with no prior warning.

Thanks for the response. I hadn't gotten around to reading their terms of service, but I probably won't be registering an account with them then now I know they don't want US citizens using them.

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yes domain is right, my account is not verified but i never have any issue

but i dont think they are in Panama physicaly

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

I’ve seen a lot of people using Perfect Money on these forums, so I think I’m going to register an account with them to use when I trade on these forums. Anyway, for users who have used them, think you could answer a few questions for me:

The domain is perfectmoney.is, right?
Have you had any issues with them, and if so, how easily were they resolved?
Should I bother with verifying my account or should I just leave it unverified?
Would there be any issues since I’m in the US and they’re in Panama?
Is there anything I should know before I make an account that I might not know?

Please excuse my paranoia Wink

, thanks.

1 domain use is right and true, before use domain dot com but in 2015 replace domain to is
2 if verified user fee sending only 0.5% not verified 2.99%
3 perfectmoney not support people from US resident

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Yes, domain is perfectmoney.is. I never had issues on this service, but you need to know that transactions are not reversable on perfectmoney and you can't get back money that you already send. You can verify your account if you want lower fees. They don't ask for verificiation, you can even use fake personal details. Perfectmoney is worldwide service and they are working in mostly countries (They have some countries blacklisted). They registered in Panama, because it's offshore company and they don't want show, who owns this service.

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Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

I’ve seen a lot of people using Perfect Money on these forums, so I think I’m going to register an account with them to use when I trade on these forums. Anyway, for users who have used them, think you could answer a few questions for me:

The domain is perfectmoney.is, right?

Yes.

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

Have you had any issues with them, and if so, how easily were they resolved?

It depends what your issues are exactly.

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

Should I bother with verifying my account or should I just leave it unverified?

You can use unverified account but your internal transfer fees will be higher. If you want to pay less for transaction you need to verify your account.

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

Would there be any issues since I’m in the US and they’re in Panama?

~~Perfect Money is international service, AFAIK there is not problems for people from US to use the service.~~
From PM ToS 1.25 Use of Perfect Money system by US citizens and permanent residents is strictly prohibited. System reserves the right to block the registrations originating from the USA or from US citizens located abroad due to local laws and regulations. Any individual or company suspected of submitting false/misleading information with purpose of hiding US location or affiliation may be subject to account block with no prior warning.

Quote from: Nathan047 on April 02, 2017, 02:20:41 PM

Is there anything I should know before I make an account that I might not know?

To verify your account you will need to prepare verification of your identity, address and telephone number.

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I’ve seen a lot of people using Perfect Money on these forums, so I think I’m going to register an account with them to use when I trade on these forums. Anyway, for users who have used them, think you could answer a few questions for me:

The domain is perfectmoney.is, right?
Have you had any issues with them, and if so, how easily were they resolved?
Should I bother with verifying my account or should I just leave it unverified?
Would there be any issues since I’m in the US and they’re in Panama?
Is there anything I should know before I make an account that I might not know?

Please excuse my paranoia , thanks.
*Edit:
Thanks to a few nice users I've found that since I am a US citizen I'm not allowed to register for a Perfect Money account, however I've been referred to SolidTrust Pay and Peyeer.

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