Topic: A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust (Read 505 times)

I don't know if this is a true to life story but I will chase Kevin right away and will file a case against him. He is not my friend anymore because he betrayed me in the first place and that's a huge money for sure. Kevin should pay it plus damages, as long as I have the proof he should face consequences.

Before reading the post i thought one of them stole money for gambling. And when read all story it's totally different story And its really annoying situation for Charles and if I were him i wouldn't play on his account. No matter what, the rate is obvious why should i played on his account? Is there any gambling web site changing the rate when you play with more money? Nope But let's follow the story, if i were him; I would visit him for facing. Then absolutely i would record the all conversation and sue him.

Convincing Kelvin is the best shot for Charles in that situation since there is no concrete legal way to prove he cheated. Choosing friends and trusting the right person is the motto of the story, it may happen in any other case. Karma will do its job and Charles will find his own way to reach Kelvin's class, IMO.

In terms of business vigilance is the main thing we can't mix just because we are close to someone because business is business.
We must be able to block this so that everything goes according to plan. Even if it is your own family, sometimes in this business you usually can't trust 100 percent because when you are given the freedom, everyone will become greedy.

Agreed, there is a reason why it is never recommended to mix business and friendship, you may trust your friend but that does not mean that your friend is actually worth of your trust, so we must never mix the two, even loaning money to a friend is a risky proposition and whenever I have done it I have expressed to them that I do not expect to get my money back, but that I will not ever lend them any money again if I have not being repaid the previous loan.

Confront him and ask for my share.


It is good if he will give me my share of the money but if he doesn't give me my part then I will see him in court if I have enough evidence, if not then I might just let him go.


I will treat the case delicately.


 The story stated by @OP maybe fiction but things like that happens in real life.  Often times the people who will swindle us are those who we trusted the most, close friends and relatives.

First of all, I wouldn't take a joint bet with anyone. Let's say I played and I fell into this situation. I would find Kelvin. First I would ask him why he did this. If he said he wouldn't give me the amount I won, I would sue him. That would be a great lesson. I shouldn't trust anyone that much. And I will say this. How does Kelvin fall asleep after betting so big? The story is fiction, but it can still happen to us. That's why we have to be careful.

From the way the story was told, it should be a fiction. But it is a good story for learning. There is nothing wrong in trusting a friend but you should know the type of friend he is first. Even when people want to pretend, they can not do it all through. There will always be that sign of betrayal from the beginning but you can choose to ignore it. Charles was a little bit careless with his trust for Kelvin. I said careless because no one bets that huge and then sleeps before the match. The anxiety from the betting alone will keep you awake and restless until you see the result.

As fictional as the story may sound, we have characters like Kevin and Charles in real life. At the core of every human being is deep seated greed. Only few people have been able to subdue it while for others it shows up whenever the need arises. The takeaway from this story is that no matter how close you are with another person, even if had studied the game together, please each should place their bets separately.

But how can you sue him in this case? You have no papers or other hard evidence showing you gave him money for the bet? I don't know the law on this aspect but a lawyer maybe can find a way how to get your share. Since he already ran away, it means, he has no intention of sharing the winnings to you. Better consult a lawyer how to proceed a case because they may have ideas on how to get your share from him.

Based from the story the OP provided, it looks like he is Kelvin and just wanted to vent out here on the forum for what he did to his friend. He mentioned "me" referring that he is Kelvin on the story. I think is having a hard time fighting his conscience to what he did.
I don't really think that they are really that kind of friend as they only share a common interest on gambling, based from my understanding. Also, you don't know how people really react with huge amount of money not only to their friends, but rather to their loves one.

Anyways, Charles can try to find justice by putting this on court as long as he can provide proof about the shared funds they use to gamble.

It depends. I would probably ask him to pay me the money that he robbed from me. If things didn't went well according to my will (which is getting it) and his approach to me is not appropriate, I would get upset and chance is I will sue him.

Anyways, is this a true story? Where did you got it?

A friend should never be treated that way, no matter how much money is at stake. You lose a little bit of your faith on humanity when friends turn their backs on you. Money shouldn’t be the most important thing in your life; it should be secondary to love and friendship. But really, after something like this, you can only move on and try to avoid making the same mistakes. You can't let people get under your skin and hurt you.

I guess that is "Buda way", things happen for a reason, and we need to accept them and move on. I would probably choose that way, I would accept "my" mistake, and I would let it go... but it's me. I know people who would act in totally opposite ways, even with less money at stake.

OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!

I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.

Of course I will go to him to look him in the eyes and tell him his wrong and maybe he could remit some. But if you have already started to make it then you can let go and allow nature to punish him because there will be punishment for betrayal.


Nothing wrong with trusting someone. This is even an avenue to trust when both friends put head together to forecast a game but it is now a lesson



This is the point and this is where the problem started. They have no need to bet together. If they had the bet differently, they would have still had substantial amount differently to themselves.

Most likely go after him since $120k is too big of an amount to let go for most people just because you're friends. Then again, it's so dumb to rely on someone when you could've placed the same bet on your own.

I agree it wasn't specified, if the bet was placed at a betting shop then it's unlikely for Charles to gather some evidence to back his case but if it's done online then Charles could use their online transactions as the evidence.

just curious, where is this story located? I am assuming since you mentioned "states" it is in the USA. if it is, $120k dollar is not enough to live a luxurious lifestyle. unless Kelvin and Charles are already pretty well off before Kelvin decided to screw Charles.

all he can do is confront Kelvin. if he files a lawsuit against Kelvin, Charles would need to prove that they have an agreement that they would split the money if the bet won if they can't I am afraid that it won't go well for Charles.

Absolutely delusional story from beginning to end - the author did not even come up with a reason why they made a "joint" bet, and did not bet like normal people separately. The situation with money is also unclear - judging by the fact that they bet on one game, they were already high rollers and they had some money. And another thing that hit me was the "big house in another state." Apparently it's not about the USA, otherwise what kind of state is it where for 120k dollars you can afford a big house (presumably not in the forest)?

Some people can never be predicted untill you yest them with money, friend of twenty can turn enemy within some seconds just with betrayal for money, now i think Charles has learnt his bedt lesson of life just in a hard and disheartening way, he will never forget this as it will still remain a mystery to him to believe what kelvin has done.


Nothing can be done about this than for Charles to take his fate and leave kelvin alone to spend the whole money, one thing is sure, money will finishee one day but good friends remains, but later in future, it could have been too kate for kelvin to realize his mistakes after things would have gone wronged, no legal action can charlse take against such since the slip was with kelvin, but destiny will always fight against kelvin for charlse sake.

If you are saying this is a real story that you heard, then you might be stupid to believe this. There is no state were you can live in a "big house" and lead a luxurious style with only $120k. You won't even be able to afford a house with that amount of money, let alone leading a lavish life. If the first guy used and deposited his money too in the account, he can just report it to the cops saying that his money was stolen. It wouldn't be hard for the cops to find him (unless the guy plans to escape the country which again is impossible with only $120k).
Anyway, you shouldn't blindly trust anyone. Money changes people!

Temptations when it comes to money is really likely on which no matter how close you are or shall we say your closest friend there's always a tendency that betrayal would really be there.Im not into those words that money is root of all evil yet we can't really avoid the fact that we are needing this thing for us to survive on everyday living.Once you do experience this stuff then you would definitely have a hard time on trusting up someone ever again.As for the situation which he neither be going after or would just let it be and move on.People would really be exchanging up their loyalty and trust when we do talk about huge sums of money.

Money, as the root of all evil, can reveal the true colors of a person no matter how close you are to each other. It can break friendships and relationships. If I were Charles, I will just let karma do its way to teach Kelvin a lesson. I know that no matter how luxurious his life becomes, he will still be bothered by his conscience. I will move on with my life and take a lesson with me that even our closest friends will betray us when it comes to money. That I shouldn't trust anybody when money is involved.

Is this a real story or just a makeup story? We see such stories in the movies where a friend wake up to see another friend has left the city and for some unknown reason he could not be found?

Obviously, the person who is living in one city has friends, family and doing business or a job, how can he leave everything and move to another city in few hours? Secondly, he must have his wife, brothers, and sisters who must be also living in the same city and he would have in contact with them, so it is in the real world it is not possible that a person can disappear so easily.

However, if this really happens, then I won't be surprised, because, in the current world, money is more important than anything. People can leave their friends or even family for money.

So Kelvin had no house, no apartment, no family in the state where he leaved near Charles? That's strange. You can't simply run away to another state overnight. All my friends know where I live, where my parents live, what car I drive... It wouldn't be that simple to pack my bags and leave, especially that the house that I live in is more expensive than 100k. It would take weeks to finalize the sale and move and at that time I'd have to be going back and forth between cities.


If he somehow managed to run away and I found out, I'd confront him. First I'd try to call him or contact him somehow and demand at the very least a return of my part of the bet. If he's a scumbag with the win let him be a scumbag, but he stole from me and I'm coming after that. If he wasn't very far from my place I'd visit him once a week and ask for my money. I'd take a few friends with me and hit him up during family dinners, grills, parties. We'd come in like guests, tell everyone that he owes us money and we want to collect, ask the guests how they feel partying with a thief and a liar and so on. Usually people want to settle somehow when you're persistent enough.

- What I don't like most of all is that someone who is considered a friend, brother, or family will let it be destroyed just because of money. Because trust is more than money or wealth or in other words priceless.

  Now, if I were in Charles' situation, of course, I would confront Kelvin, I would talk to him properly, and I would ask, why did he manage to destroy my trust in him as a loyal friend just because of money? because he is my friend I know his situation in life before he came to the luxurious life and know if it was because we won a gambling game and he can't deny it because he suddenly disappeared and didn't make me feel anymore and he left me?

  If he apologizes, I will forgive him because who am I not to forgive,  Now, if he doesn't ask for forgiveness and he refuses, maybe the only thing I can do to him before we part is to give him a big blow.

its not time to be a pussy and trust already broken. charles would be very angry just as anyone who lost a huge amount because of a friend who stole from him.

heck a plan is to be executed. stake out and wait for kevin to go out of the house and knock him out in an ambush.
seize any money you can find in the house. damn it, this is a raid!   

Money can change people so he must be glad that money show the true color of his supposed to be friend. Maybe if he don't have a chance to change the mind of that guy maybe he should start to move on and avoid him. For sure there are lot of opportunity to win that again so its really better to avoid toxic or fake friends since you can't trust them on any means.

I will be very disappointed the least that you can expect or the worse thing is being betrayed by your friend but I will not take physical revenge this is just money but I will make sure that our circles of friends know how he treats his friends if possible if there is a piece of evidence I will charge him of estafa or fraud because there is deceit in his part, I have never done this all my gambling time sharing a bet with a friend because I know the consequences either you'll have an argument and this will hurt your friendship, always bet alone and let no one knows if you win, being discreet is very important in gambling.

I hope there will be some proof of their partnership I mean that they both have the agrrement that whatever may happen they will get the half half of the jackpot, but if not he can talk to Kelvin it is really sad seeing your friend being so selfish about the the thing that you must have as well.

It will be a big problem if Charles will chase him trying to claim half of the winning amount. It's only a slip, there will be no proof of Charles's claim that he has a part of the bet amount.
Even if it goes to court, he will not win.
All he could do is ask Kelvin about being a true friend. Maybe make a dramatic script and just try to take back the ROI and maybe some win if he will be touched with the scripted dialogue.  
Break that friendship afterward, and learn from the mistake.

I mean ehhh, guess I'll question it but not do anything about it not that I'm capable of doing anything in the first place really. The slip was with him, there wasn't any legality about how the winning was to be split so I wouldn't really get the split no matter what, but it is worth knowing as to why just to sate the curiosity of sorts.

But that's about it. Heck if I needed to go overseas just to confront him I'd probably not bother, 3 months is a pretty long time and is enough to pretty much say forget it kind of thing. 

Also uh, wouldn't the win be the same regardless if they bet the money together(if they bet on the same result or something) or not? Or am I missing something?

I just can't believe how Kelvin has the guts to do that to his best friend for a long. It's hard to live a comfortable life within the luxury standards where in the first place, the money used to achieve that came from cheating and almost can consider scamming since Charles' capital was also used here. I don't know how Kelvin can even move freely knowing his reputation is now ruined as for sure Charles might share the situation on social media or with many of their other friends.

Good thing that this story might not be true (I hoped so) because if that's true, Kelvin might not be happy with where he is right now even though he has lots of money. That cheating won't give him peace even when he is sleeping.

I'll confront, but I'll never ask for the winnings because for sure, it's gone already.

This is the problem when you trust a friend. In real life, you might have many friends around, but not all of them are the ones you need to trust especially when it comes to money. If I'm in that situation, I'll just pretend that it never happened since it will be useless and the money for sure is gone and I believe in karma so... I'll let it go but will never forgive him.

If this is a true story, I hope that Charles learned from this one and will not do the same thing again.

Actually, with this kind of scenario theres a chance that Charles would chase Kevin because this is a large amount for sure with that but if you don't mind too much money you will ignore it and nothing happen but of course, we have different mindsets and approach with the problem, for me the best thing is still it is good that he gives an even small amount just to get fair to Charlie because they both each other hard work with that bet, some people would file a case if there's a chance to get half the winnings.

I don't want to get a long problem to report him and ask for a justice about my money, so I will let him go with my money, but I will never forgive him and I still want my money back to me. He will get sin what he done before and I think that's enough revenge for me, maybe he will face a bad day that would make him regret what his done. If he came back to me to return the money, I wouldn't accept it so he will have sin and try to beg to forgive him.

I wouldn't even care about his decision to go and take the money, would never try to find him and ask him for clarification.
Because what he does is enough to prove his true nature and will only waste time chasing him, let him enjoy the money later it will soon run out because what he is doing is a form of greed and greed that will also lead him to bad things in his life later.

There are many people in this world who are really very ruthless and cruel with no sense of humanity. They always betray people. However, if you want to continue in this world, you must judge good and bad. The person who has betrayed you and killed your money, you will soon see his money destroyed from him. Any money or thing you kill from someone doesn't last long, it will get out of you one way or another.Be patient and soon you will get something better.

There is only one way to treat a traitor,and that is capital punishment in many countries,even those with democratic and western developed values.I would personally go after him and find him and make him accountable even if that meant that this would have been my last thing to do in my life,the rage after the treason cannot be easily forgotten.

I will tell a story why I don't believe that much in friendships.One guy was arrested for being accused of killing another guy and he was in prison but with some amnesty he got to be in home arrest,he was being safeguarded by two guards because the people of the guy who killed wanted to kill him.It looked like there was no way to get to him but the people of the guy killed had a lot of money.In the house of this guy arrested only entered his closest 2 friends.One day these closest friends were tempted by 100.000 EUR and killed their friend and his dad,now they are all in prison but that is the reason I don't trust friendships anymore.

the first thing i did was go to his house and punch him in the face as hard as i could so he realized that friends and trust are not easy to buy with money.
after that i told him "if you want to eat the money, just eat because the law of nature will surely repay"
and after that i won't ask for any justice because i think with the jab i gave him and the short word that comes out of my mouth it will make him feel guilty to death.


for me for gambling it is risking money. and if gambling cooperatively with friends is very risky because no one does not want money, of course there will be problems such as taking away his own friend's money

This would be the best option, but what evidence is Charles having against Kelvin? Because of that, it is better for Charles to just still report to police about it, the police may still want to help until it is not resolved that it should become a court case.

This would be a lesson if this happens, some events occurs for others to learn from. It is not that some people do not trust a friend, just that they have certain percentage of trust for a friend and that is better. If it comes to money matter, it is not good to trust a friend. A friend you think is the best can suddenly change and become what you do not expect, not fully trust a friend does not hurt at all.

There is always a place to set things in good way , they are still a  friend  so I think they will settle this maybe not today or tomorrow? but surely in the days to come because surely in the future when their path crosses again , understanding will take place.

or maybe if the traitor become more successful ? then he may return back the funds will full interest on it.


But the main thing in this is never to trust anyone with your money and most specially in in this kind of vises .

LoL what? Gambling don't work that way unless the provider changes the odds when you wager more.

They should have wagered separately.

I didn't even have to read the rest of the story because I can already guess what happened.

When it is about money, trust only yourself and no one else. That's a solid life lesson for whoever lost money in this story.

Maybe they can sort it out if Kevin give Charles share for old-time sake and if not then maybe they can settle on the court.

I wouldn't really try the latter, 3 months if long enough for my anger to stay. But I would definitely want the money as I won as well. Not trusting a friend can actually be hurtful as well. I can understand it so Charles is not a very sassy guy. But this is not a good trait to adopt in this wild world.

Money will always broke everyones dream to earn respect and trust , if you don't want your friendship to be ruined then never let money interfere to your relationship.

specially in gambling that completely a place for greedy and self centered people.

I will never let Him go, I would rather spend another thousand of dollars because the win is truly plenty though this will be hard to prove as gambling isn't that recorded at all.

It is not clear to me if that is supposedly a story that you knew first hand, because you do not put sources and you could have invented it, but I have heard similar stories from quite some time ago.

Nowadays there is not that much of a problem, what you have to do when you share a lottery ticket is for the one who has the ticket stub to send a photo via instant messenger to all those who share the ticket, as it is considered evidence in court.

That way, Charles could go to the police or the court and report Kelvin.

Well, this is a fairly frequent and sad story of friendship and betrayal, and if Kelvin did this, then he was sure that Charles would not pursue him, he cheated him with money, but he also stole Charles' time and faith. I would not meet with such a person in an attempt to explain something to him, if it was an attack of cowardice, then he will understand everything himself and try to fix everything.

The hardest thing is to get betrayed by your friend especially if it involves a huge amount of money, you can ask him to share the winning if he declines then you can go to court and ask the court to give him your shares of the winnings but everything depends on the evidence you have if you cannot show something in the court then you cannot file a case, this is a lesson that when it comes to gambling you should be on your own, you should just bet the same entry but with your own money not sharing the ticket.

Then their friendship are ruined definitely, and that is the sad part of it. For me this is just money, so it's not worth a try to betray your friend's trust. Anyway, if the other party did this, then probably it's because of greed and the power to have all that money.

Maybe he hasn't seen that kind of money before and he was tempted to do that, run away with it and getting all the money, forgetting all about their friendship. In the end, this is another of those statistics wherein the love of money and greed destroyed everything.

Is this a real life incident, name place, amount win, etc.? But anyway, yes, this really happened.
For those greedy, greed always money means everything no matter what will be steppin in, friendship, family etc.

For the question, i dont know what charles can do about it legally, or if there is existing law on his country of origin regarding the case then sue him. If there's none, this always resort to some worst scenario, revenge, lastly killings, who knows what kind of person charles is.

If this is real story, then I'll try to make the friend understand and get my part. At some point he'll truly understand and if he isn't ready to give the winning amount, then it is upto him. It'll be a learning for me, money can make any kind of changes in ones life. Once again as the past days I'll spend what I've been spending on gambling. If I'm lucky I'll be able to make such bets.

Just think of the situation in which both the friends have shared the winning. In such case the winning will keep the friends boosted to go for further bets with the winning amount which could bring more big wins.

Money is not everything but everything requires money, it is very difficult to find friends who can be trusted because there are so many friends now who stab us in the back, especially regarding money problems and women's problems, it's better from now on you have to avoid friends like that because if you continue to be friends with him for sure he will repeat the same mistakes even worse than before, he will take your money he will also have sex with your wife, you should leave a friend like him before it's too late.

@OP, is this a story that really happened and existed or just another fantasy that would be good to read to learn some lessons? But if this is for real and I'm on the situation of Charles, I'll just let it go and let him be happy with his life and I won't bother him anymore.
Because I believe in karma and riches that comes from like that will be gone and out too quickly and the good karma shall happen to me in some other days of my life or if there's none, I'm good with my conscience not to disturb him.

Charles was so reckless and Kelvin so greedy, crime because there is an opportunity. With this story I'll go to catch Kelvin if I become Charles there's only me and him, the law doesn't need to know, due to his behavior so he not a friend anymore. Kelvin is so petty he's not a real friend, and a real friend won't steal money, there is only fun in friendship

You should know that there are two categories of gamblers, the gamblers who are desperate and greedy and have let the pursuit of money cloud their conscience, while those who are not too desperate and just gamble mostly for fun but don't mind winning. It is obvious that the friend who betrayed the other one falls into the category of the desperate gamblers. If you are able to observe that anyone around you, friend or even family is desperate and greedy for money you cannot trust them with agreements regarding money.

Maybe this is not common or not in some other countries, betting agents. With betting agents, you do not have to register online and bet, you can go to the betting agent, bet and you will be given slip which you must not lose. If the bet is won, go with the slip to the betting agent you used to bet and you will be given your money. That could be what that happened.

Well i heard another story in gambling with two friends last days in youtube about two friends that were gambling in slots, an old story where online casinos doesn’t exist the slots machines were new so they are full of glitches and these two friends found out that glitch in a poker slot machine where they can generate a lot of money daily then they had a fight were one of them decided to stop so they don’t get caught the other didn’t agree, but because of that fight both were doing their maximum to get more money and became a competition until one of them got caught but they didn’t discover the glitch, he got banned from all casinos so he called his friend to stop and warn him but the other didn’t believe him and thought it’s just a story he created to scare him. So he continued aggressively until he got caught also and they discovered the glitch both went to jail for doing that.
So in my opinion i will let kelvin and accepte that loss and betrayal for my mistake of trusting someone that obviously he will finally get attempted by that much money. Going after him to justice will cost me only money and time while i can move on and accept my stupidity

One of the best rule I have learned while using bitcoin and following this "world" is
Don't Trust Verify.

if there is not any real proof of the payment between these two friends it's really hard to prove this bet was played/decided by them.
Otherwise, it could be possible also there is a threat/blackmail.
"You own my money/we decide to bet together you need to pay me".

I think that Kelvin was a piece of s*** meanwhile it's really hard for Calvin "demonstrate" (in any case) they have made this bet together.

I know it's difficult to trust someone when it comes to money aspect even if the person is your family member, but seriously am having some friends not really more than 3 that I do trust with everything about me not money alone, they have access to my ATM card and they know my pin and I also have access to their ATM, we have been together for year's and we have done some businesses together, which they distributed the profit equally, we have helped each other during cretical moments, someone that we have been together for many years and the person haven't cheated me before, why won't I trust him? So should I say when a very huge amount connects us together, they will also disappoint me which I don't think so. Am having 3 of my friends that I trust with my money and 1 of my brother.

There will be consequences on that and surely go after him to deserve justice, maybe filing a report will do differently or just keep talking to him to get the money you're suppose to be having. It may sounds a little bit out of hand considering how egoistic Kelvin is but you just have to try if it will do.

There's betrayal between friends when their money involved especially if it's a huge amount of money, real friends never borrow share, or co-partnership with each other and when it comes to gambling you don't pool your money to be unless there is an escrow, because there's a possibility of winning a huge amount of money, you can demand a share if you have evidence that you pool your money but if there is none you can't do something about it, the lesson here is if you're pooling your money in gambling be sure you have evidence in case of betrayal.

What was the advantage to not just placing two separate bets, not sure I get taking a risk unneeded.   Quite a few people are awful with money and its not being a good friend to put that failure possible in their path, still their fault but best not to tempt alot of people into something negative.

sorry doesnt make sense and easily avoided, the rest you cant do that much about just human flaws which are not rare thats life.

^ I can't spend and kept my when it bothers my conscience, I cannot sleep well in that way.
Well If I were Charles and my friend betrayed me, that is how I measure our friendship and it's proven that money matters between you so he is not a true friend of yours. Money is easy to spend and easy to lose but you cannot buy trust with someone else, it takes so long before you will gain it and it will never buy. So let him spend all of our money won and let him not sleep well. Someday he will realize that friendship is more important than money.  

If I have evidence that I shared my money with Kelvin to win that jackpot then I will go to court and demand a friend who betrayed to give me my share, when it comes to gambling people should not share their bets even with relatives because the true color of people will show up when they have huge money in their hands but if you don't have pieces of evidence then there's nothing you can do, even if you confront him and ask assistance from authorities he will just deny it.

This is no longer about gambling but more about morals. Only those greedy enough who doesn't have the morals can do such thing. Most gamblers I knew would still share the winnings, or in order to avoid this from happening wouldn't pool their money at all. Also nowadays, people are very easy to find if you have leads and prior connection. He might not have any legal reason to pursue his 'friend' but I think this can be made to a case of estafa or anything and get his money back. Then again, no legal basis/writing = basically it didn't happen.

If I do anything like that, that means I am very foolish. Not his father, not his mother. My father and mother (especially my mother precisely) are the two people I can trust up to the extent I know they can not completely betray me because what is theirs can be said to be mine as well. But I can not even be stupid to add up my money with my parent money for us to gamble together, we can do it differently. Even as for my brothers, I can never trust them to that extent at all, we would have to bet differently, not to talk of a friend. Even as I trade more, I trade alone, nothing of money can involve my friend and I except if I should borrow them money, I can not even borrow them the amount of money I can not afford to give them as a friend because they can still fail to give you back. Let us take life as it is.

Then what things could he present out on regarding those claims? If the account been used is on Kevins?
What if Kevin denies that he's using his own money on making bets and not involving charles? How he would be able to prove out? There's no chance if everything is
done on verbal agreement and this is why its really hard to have so much trust even if he's your bestfriend or whatsoever.
Just like the rest been saying that when it comes to money then its really hard to trust specially when it do involves huge money that could
change up someones life.

It is right that Charles was a bit too candid, but the only one who acted ethically wrong was his friend, so I would only put the blame on Kelvin for that reason.

About the actions Charles can take... well, if tue money was clean, most probably in the court; if not clean things could get even worse.

I don't think that's foolishness, someone you grow up together with and you have trusted the person with money  before and haven't disappointed you before, then you won't know he will definitely do something like this. I blame Kelvin just trying to be smart, someone that can trust you then you shouldn't ruin your friendship because of selfishness, if both of them shared the money am sure they will have both been living fine and comfortable, how will I have money and I will be comfortable seeing my friend suffering, that's really bad if am Charles I will just tell Kelvin my mind and then overlook it, definitely my own money will also come. With this post I think we shouldn't trust anybody whenever it comes to money related issues not even a friend.

well i wonder:

- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?

- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.

on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court

You can't know your friend's attitude when he or she has nothing. Money reveals a lot in friendship(the true colour of who you call your friend).

If I happen to be Charles, that ends the friendship between me and Kelvin. I won't ask him about the money. Since he has the mind to play smart over me because of money. That's my foolishness to trust him easily.

At times, it's good for us to have small deals with our friends concerning money. At least to know who we are dealing with.

In this life, not all those you call your friends are your real friends when it comes to money.

In the story, you shared, how it's possible for Kelvin to easily withdraw $120,000? Is the account named after him and are all provided details owned by him as well? Or the money was claimed personally at the office?

How come Kelvin was easily able to move out to other states? If that's the case Charles surely contact his family about his whereabouts and it will trigger the authorities to help the family find Kelvin on the same day. Kelvin is also able to live in a big house which in real life, he can't just do within just 3 months because his name is under investigation.

Lastly, I can't imagine that there's the same Kelvin in real life will easily turn out like that.

What if Kelvin has squandered the money with little or nothing left?. That feeling of betrayal will cost so much trust issues for me after such experience. For me i will involve a lawyer straight up so that i can retrieve what ever is left before he goes bankrupt. I won't blame Charles for trusting a friend to such extent but left to me i will use the law less things gets worst.

As long as money is involved a thousand and one volunteer lawyers and human right activists will take up the case because they know too well their cut will be included when the eventually wins the case. If Kelvin can do away with such amount of money without informing his friend then using an appeal will be a total waste of time

Tracing out is never been simple specially if you do have that limited source of funds where even there's someone who do talk that he's on other state then finding would really be hard.You cant really expect that someone on his family would be telling his location specially if they do know the situation or that guy already told them not to tell on where he is or totally dont know just because that dude ran away from his
home and make a living out of that huge win.

If you could really sustain yourself on finding him then majority of us would really be telling the same.You do have the rights on asking some part since you've both have an agreement
on betting on the same team/player with both funds combined which it is really just right that you would fight for your right or get on what you deserve.

If I was Charles I would talk to Kevin and give him a chance to do the right thing and give me what he owns to me. We were friends before and that should mean something to him. There is no feeling worse than the feeling of getting betrayed by a friend. I may not trust another soul again if this happened to me.



I do not know if Charles can go to court and sue Kevin for stealing the profit from their bet. It is hard to prove that Kevin stole the money since Kevin has the slip. All Charles can do is appeal to the good conscience of Kevin to give Charles what is due to Charles. Other than that, there is no legal way that he can get his money back.

I am sure that this is just a story to teach a lesson and not a real story because the details are not in line, However the lessons I have picked up from this story are;
 When it comes to financial issues, trust should not easily be given,
 As an individual who gambles, be content with whatever amount you can spare to gamble,
 Learn to do your things yourself.
Issues like this can be avoided if the three lessons mentioned above are practiced.

Nice story OP. If I were Charles, I will chase that guy and start with his family asking where did Kelvin go and tell them the whole story. If I found out where does kelvin go I would probably chase him and ask him to at least give the capital that I spent to the match then it will be settled, It is the minimum thing I can do since I'm sure I can't force him and Kelvin intend to run in the first place because of his greediness, I'm sure the capital is not much compared to the winnings he was blinded for. We will make the karma make it's revenge. After all of that I'm sure that if I were in that situation, I will never going to trust easily after that kind of situation.

this is called the enemy in the blanket, I never trust anyone in gambling because we know gambling is one aspect that can make a person do anything when he is in such a condition. maybe if i were charles i would demand justice for my right to the winnings in that gamble. at least we should try to get our rights and if he does something silly or accuses otherwise then this becomes a breaking point in the friendship between him and us. believe me this may be a valuable point for someone not to trust anyone too much in gambling, including even close friends.

There are lots of ways to run on Kevin. Since they are friends, expect that they also know their respective families. How it turned up that Kevin was easily able to go away without a trace. Since part of the used money on betting was also owned by Charles, then that's a clear theft already. He just needs to clarify everything for his claim and put pressure on Kevin.

Anyway, I think that's just a made-up story. Although possible to happen in real life, I don't believe that it can easily happen in reality.

Please don't make it a habit of creating a thread like this.

Of course our first reaction is to really look for your friend and get the split money, after all this is what you have plan right? Nevertheless, Kelvin has run around with the money already and maybe by the time he caught up with him the money might be gone for good.

So obviously there will be a problem right there, friendship might have severed already because you have trusted him and unfortunately greed takes over. I'll probably let him go but it's going to be over.

And there could be some individual that will go to the extend to hurt the Kelvin physically, to be honest.

This story just sound like one of our Nollywood Nigerian drama. Because they are the only set of people in this world that can act and tell a story just as narrated. But however, if this happens to be true just as it sounds, then justice is the best way forward. But before I start, i don't know the kind of friendship that may have coexisted between these two set of people, because the mistake most people make today is trusting people too easily to the point of sharing secret information to someone you barely know anything about. Because If you go deep into this case, you may get to notice that Kelvin and Charles may have been good friends but never did any of them had deep information about each other. That is, for example...
Charles full name, where is he from, who are his sibling, his father or mothers phone number or any emergency contact address or phone number, e.t.c.
Because If I was to be Charles, the best decision will be to arrest Kelvin and ask him to refund me my share of the winning. Very simple

I will go after him, but not in a do or die way, i will confront him for two reasons, and those are :-

• To know why he did what he did
• To know if there is still any amount of money left for me --

If there is, i will take it and leave him forever - that is he will never be my friend again.
But if there is not any money left from the winning, i will let him be since since trying to arrest him or take him to court will result to me wasting my money, this is because there is no available evidence to prove that we played the game together, and the court of police are definitely going to need evidence before the believe and prosecute him...
So i would personally leave him to karma and work really hard on creating a good life for myself.

Gambling can sometimes take quite twists and turns. And if you are really dealing with someone who is heavily addicted to gambling, close friends but also family can become victims. It will not be the first time that a relationship breakup has occurred as a result of a gambler who does everything he can to get money. Friendships can also break, but it's better to confide in a good friend and tell them about your problem than to make fun of him. After all, that's what friends are for and every addiction can eventually be overcome. But you must persevere and certainly not betray your friends and family. It certainly won't make you feel any better.

I would really just to do one thing which is "punch him on the face".I dont care about the money that he had ran away but trust is something that cant be bought back.Once its broken then it cant really be return as it was

before.He had the money but you cant really bring your friendship back on what he had done.Also, there's karma which he had attained that life but it is really attached with those disrespecting and betrayal into someone

which those riches would really be wiped out on later years but who knows? It do really sucks when it comes to money where friendship or trust could easily be broken out
and this is why you should really be betting on your own rather than on trusting up someone.

It should be in this case what happened by entrusting it entirely to a friend is clearly a reckless act regardless of whether this story is true or just a fiction.
When it comes to money, everything is possible, not only for friends, but even for relatives, everyone will become greedy when it comes to money and of course things like this are quite common if we believe too much.

First I will blame Charles for trusting too., when it comes to money not many people can be trusted or that can practice loyalty to friends so why should I trust anyone when the world is full of many fake friends who can betray you for a penny?
But then why did Charles chossw to do combine betting with his friend in the first place when we know that, when it comes to money. Not everyone can control themselves to maintain integrity.

Is this real or just a story?

Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.

Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.

I think, I will confront him and ask why he did such betrayal.
As I would want to hear it directly from him, why such action?
And if Kelvin is insisting not to give my part, maybe that's the test that your friendship is not real.
As you have no proof anymore but your verbal agreement with him, it is useless running after him.
Move on and avoid people like him. Once money knocks on their door, you are easily forgotten.

To build trust on someone takes time and  sacrifice, you have someone that you trust so much because they know this,they end up disappointing you in a way that might be unforgivable because of money.

There are two friends Kelvin and Charles,they have similar likes and have being gambling and predicting results of matches together. One day Kelvin and Charles studied a game together for some days and finally, it was the game day,so these two friends instead of playing separately decided to put their money together to bet big so that the win will also be bigger. After betting since Kelvin and Charles have been friends for long, Charles didn't bother about who will keep the game slip and so the slip was with Kelvin.

Four hours later,the game was played, the game came out as predicted and these two friends got a big win of $120K. Charles before the game started,fell asleep and woke up two hours after the game ended,believing whatever happens,his friend Kelvin will notify him. Kelvin noticed the win and checked on Charles at home to find out that Charles is fast asleep.

Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.