A well know military analyst and reported says Putin´s army near collapse

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Quote from: lumbanrang on March 10, 2022, 02:33:35 AM

Quote from: Dunamisx on March 09, 2022, 09:46:24 AM

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.

Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted.

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.

Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine?

Don't look at the Russians like they are the most guilty. Russia put troops on the border because indeed they had received reports that Ukraine would join NATO and it was only the first step in anticipation if NATO built its base on the Ukrainian border. Just imagine if Mexico had an alliance with Russia and Russia built its nuclear base on the Mexican-US border, what would the US response be?

Exactly, after the WW, the EU should've taken that opportunity to become neutral between the West and the East. NATO, a North Atlantic security organisation by definition, have no business in Eastern Europe, hundreds and hundreds of miles away from the Atlantic. A lot of my family are Moldovan, and I would like us to join the EU, but if we joined NATO, I would be very worried.

I don't get how people expected Russia to react. NATO have been conducting ops far away from the Atlantic for a long time, in Serbia and Libya 2011. Why wouldn't Russia 'fear' for their security? In addition, Biden is the weakest US President potentially in history, why wouldn't Putin take advantage of that as well? It's not a coincidence that Russia didn't invade during Trump's reign, but they did during Bush, Obama, and Biden's. If Trump isn't re-elected or a Republican candidate isn't the next President, you can say goodbye to the US being 'the largest power' for definite.

Putin is at fault for the current situation but the West are at fault for the context.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 10, 2022, 07:03:51 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on March 10, 2022, 10:42:02 AM

Quote from: Tash on March 10, 2022, 03:52:24 AM

Did the military analyst work with him
https://rumble.com/vwscqg-zelensky-100-snorted-a-few-rails-of-coke-before-this-video.html

Keep talking... another 120M down the drain...Today!!!

https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/videos/2975986526045241

I am not paying 100 USD for that vehicle! They just do not understand my offer - the tank or vehicle has to be in working condition and the soldier needs to be alive to sell it!

Do not die for Putin!

What Ukraine should do with all the scrap metal after this war is over, they should cut them up into small pieces and sell them on eBay.

Everyone who loves freedom would buy a small souvenir as a reminder of the evil perpetrated by the Russians.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 10, 2022, 10:42:02 AM

Quote from: Tash on March 10, 2022, 03:52:24 AM

Did the military analyst work with him
https://rumble.com/vwscqg-zelensky-100-snorted-a-few-rails-of-coke-before-this-video.html

Keep talking... another 120M down the drain...Today!!!

https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/videos/2975986526045241

I am not paying 100 USD for that vehicle! They just do not understand my offer - the tank or vehicle has to be in working condition and the soldier needs to be alive to sell it!

Do not die for Putin!

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 10, 2022, 10:42:02 AM

Keep talking... another 120M down the drain...Today!!!

https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/videos/2975986526045241

I remember reading before the war that those "shitty turkish drones" are too slow, short range, small payload, and there is like 10 drones and 5 people capable of flying them. And then on the first day of war Russian propaganda announced that they took them all out. And here we are, 15 days later, fish in a barrel.

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Quote from: Tash on March 10, 2022, 03:52:24 AM

Did the military analyst work with him
https://rumble.com/vwscqg-zelensky-100-snorted-a-few-rails-of-coke-before-this-video.html

Keep talking... another 120M down the drain...Today!!!

https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/videos/2975986526045241

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Did the military analyst work with him
https://rumble.com/vwscqg-zelensky-100-snorted-a-few-rails-of-coke-before-this-video.html

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Quote from: lumbanrang on March 10, 2022, 02:33:35 AM

Don't look at the Russians like they are the most guilty. Russia put troops on the border because indeed they had received reports that Ukraine would join NATO and it was only the first step in anticipation if NATO built its base on the Ukrainian border. Just imagine if Mexico had an alliance with Russia and Russia built its nuclear base on the Mexican-US border, what would the US response be?

Does NATO build it defense at the boarder of other countries who are NATO allies?

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Quote from: Dunamisx on March 09, 2022, 09:46:24 AM

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.

Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted.

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.

Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine?

Don't look at the Russians like they are the most guilty. Russia put troops on the border because indeed they had received reports that Ukraine would join NATO and it was only the first step in anticipation if NATO built its base on the Ukrainian border. Just imagine if Mexico had an alliance with Russia and Russia built its nuclear base on the Mexican-US border, what would the US response be?

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Quote from: PLayerZero14 on March 09, 2022, 05:43:45 PM

The 2nd most powerful military on the planet

That's becoming a meme. You need to request new talking points from your handlers.

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Quote from: PLayerZero14 on March 09, 2022, 05:43:45 PM

Quote from: paxmao on March 05, 2022, 09:37:59 AM

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379

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Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev says that #Russia has resources left for the war until Sunday, after which they will collapse.

Also next week, Russia is facing sanctions, the scale of which “we have not seen before”, and they will also affect Putin

I tend to be sceptical about this types of statements. However this particular person has been around most of the intel reports dealing with Putin´s involvement in a number or executive actions (AKA crimes) and seems to have a glimpse beyond the usual guy on the street. There seems to be also an indication than Kherson has been re-gained.

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/calendar/insights-bellingcat-russias-ukraine-ambitions

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/open-source-intelligence-from-ukraine

The 2nd most powerful military on the planet will collapse after only less than 2 weeks of fighting ? i find that really hard to believe no matter where it came from.

The strength of an army is not only their weapons and certainly is rarely on its numbers. Many made the same mistake in the last few thousand years.

The strongest of Putin's weapons are the ones that is simply a suicide to use (nukes).

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Quote from: paxmao on March 05, 2022, 09:37:59 AM

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379

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Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev says that #Russia has resources left for the war until Sunday, after which they will collapse.

Also next week, Russia is facing sanctions, the scale of which “we have not seen before”, and they will also affect Putin

I tend to be sceptical about this types of statements. However this particular person has been around most of the intel reports dealing with Putin´s involvement in a number or executive actions (AKA crimes) and seems to have a glimpse beyond the usual guy on the street. There seems to be also an indication than Kherson has been re-gained.

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/calendar/insights-bellingcat-russias-ukraine-ambitions

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/open-source-intelligence-from-ukraine

The 2nd most powerful military on the planet will collapse after only less than 2 weeks of fighting ? i find that really hard to believe no matter where it came from.

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Quote from: Tash on March 08, 2022, 03:45:12 AM

Must a a "expert", similar to all the covid experts.

That's a smart one. In our time, reports happens to have been neutralised along by the government before its released to the public. Though, he might not be a regular street guy, it doesn't mean his not reporting out of what is made available to him.

For a fact, Putin just might have planned for this war from a time before hand. Maybe not including the sanctions but I strongly doubt, the resources his got to keep the war going and the military might of the Russians would span over a week or 2 weeks of war.

It's my hope that both nations come to terms with themselves over a peaceful revolution as, this is just a further break down of there nations economy and destruction of human life.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 09, 2022, 04:26:36 PM

I'm very sceptical about such information. As said above they destroyed only about 10% of russian military equipment.
I don't know how reliable these numbers is, but there was 150 000 - 190 000 troops by the boarder. 90% of them is already in Ukraine. As reported by Ukraine, over 12000 were killed, over 30000 were injured or taken as POW's

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I am as well sceptical, the numbers you provide are nearly impossible to verify but seem not possible. It is just a question of time, it is difficult to loose that many resources in such a little time and does not match past war experiences in comparable scenarios.

What I do believe is that Putin miscalculated quite a few things: the resistance of Ukrainians, the speed and size of the world's response and, and this why I published the post, the state of his own army.

No air superiority to be seen, slow advances if any and, lastly, having to resort to bomb the cities despite civilians, temerity or even plain incompetency by fighting near the nuclear reactors,... That does not look like an overpowerfull, almighty, well supplied and high morale, technologically superior army at all.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 05, 2022, 09:37:59 AM

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

Putin being a very stubborn character, I doubt he will give in that easily unless he has achieved what he wanted, which I think is very unlikely in the long run. Something tells me he will even resort to a nuclear war just to nurse his bruised ego.

You simply can't invade and control a country where it's citizens don't like you. In the long run, it will be a failed war for him.

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I'm very sceptical about such information. As said above they destroyed only about 10% of russian military equipment.
I don't know how reliable these numbers is, but there was 150 000 - 190 000 troops by the boarder. 90% of them is already in Ukraine. As reported by Ukraine, over 12000 were killed, over 30000 were injured or taken as POW's.
It's obvious that things don't gobas Russia planned. Blitzkrieg operation failed and they weren't ready for long war. They're struggling with supply. Morale of troops is low. But now when they didn't achieved what they planned they started to simply destroy cities and kill civilians.

Quote from: Mario Vella on March 09, 2022, 09:43:39 AM

That sounds a bit too optimistic. Wars lasts for years, how they couldn't have resources for two weeks? They started this war and don't think they might be THAT incompetent.

They didn't expected so much resistance. From US intelligence reports, Putin is isolated from real informationand nobody don't tell him truth what is exactly going on.

Quote from: Cnut237 on March 09, 2022, 10:58:27 AM

Not least being all the reports we hear of captured Russian soldiers who don't know why they are there.

I don't believe it's true. They know exactly were they going and they were only teached to tell that stupid excuse.

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I would not say that. Ukrainians only destroyed about 10% of Russia's military equipment (at least the quotas they report to the world).

Ukrainians did not kill enough Homo Sovieticus soldiers to make a dent in Putin's army. They need to stop taking POWs and
increase Soviet body count.

On the ground, Putin's army stands no chance.

It is refreshing that the UK is going to give them anti-air missiles and anti-tank weapons to prevent Putin from
raining bombs and missiles on civilian targets.

It is going to be a long and bloody war.

Once Ukrainians destroy 60-70% of Putin's equipment (at this rate probably in 3 months), NATO should help Georgia to open another front in
Georgia to recover the territories occupied by Russia.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 05, 2022, 09:37:59 AM

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

I don't think we're near a resolution yet, and things will get worse.

But equally, yes, I'm sure the Russian army has its weaknesses. Not least being all the reports we hear of captured Russian soldiers who don't know why they are there. And the equipment is likely a bit out-dated and vulnerable to western-supplied Ukranian weapons. I'd imagine morale in the Russian troops is not so great. And the supply lines are of course an issue.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on March 09, 2022, 09:46:24 AM

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.

Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted.

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.

Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine?

putin considers ukranians genocidal neonazis and that quite seriously thats why he is there

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Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement.

Russia has intention to engage the war because when they started mounting troops at the boarder, there was a call for alarm and several bodies asked Putin if there's no any intention of invading Ukraine but he keep muted.

Quote from: lumbanrang link=topic=5388459.msg59472506#msg59472506

but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.

Aggression for what? Is it a crime to share boarder with Russia? Or is Russia not different from Ukraine?

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That sounds a bit too optimistic. Wars lasts for years, how they couldn't have resources for two weeks? They started this war and don't think they might be THAT incompetent.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on March 08, 2022, 02:00:58 AM

The resolution available is only the end which justifies the means, Putin is not ready to withdraw and Ukraine is not quiting and EU, US and NATO allies are not relenting in giving Ukraine it support needed, with the way of the look of things Russia may be short in millitary workforce and ammunition if the war linger except it receives help from China or any other country. Russia believe in it potentiality through engaging in war but forget to remember that things fall apart atimes, sometimes one may plan to arrive at the moon but later ended landing on the Pluto, that is war.

Russia also initially had no intention of starting a war, but Ukraine lured Russia into joining the US, NATO and European alliances and ignoring the Minsk agreement. Putin knows that this war will cause their economy to crash and they will be locked out of the international community, but Putin is Putin, he doesn't care about that and continues his aggression.

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Must a a "expert", similar to all the covid experts.

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I find it hard to believe that Putin would embark on a war in Ukraine with supposedly so few resources. And I find it hard to believe that Russia supposedly has so few military resources.

On the other hand I am also not happy about the idea that he is completely cornered and thinks he has nothing left to lose anymore.

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The resolution available is only the end which justifies the means, Putin is not ready to withdraw and Ukraine is not quiting and EU, US and NATO allies are not relenting in giving Ukraine it support needed, with the way of the look of things Russia may be short in millitary workforce and ammunition if the war linger except it receives help from China or any other country. Russia believe in it potentiality through engaging in war but forget to remember that things fall apart atimes, sometimes one may plan to arrive at the moon but later ended landing on the Pluto, that is war.

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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499807262084325379

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Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev says that #Russia has resources left for the war until Sunday, after which they will collapse.

Also next week, Russia is facing sanctions, the scale of which “we have not seen before”, and they will also affect Putin

I tend to be sceptical about this types of statements. However this particular person has been around most of the intel reports dealing with Putin´s involvement in a number or executive actions (AKA crimes) and seems to have a glimpse beyond the usual guy on the street. There seems to be also an indication than Kherson has been re-gained.

How optimistic can one be about a resolution?

https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/calendar/insights-bellingcat-russias-ukraine-ambitions

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/open-source-intelligence-from-ukraine

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