Topic: About Dice Games and Yolodice . Best strategy?? (Read 783 times)

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Keep your capital high, not your bets. They can be set low if you have a bigger capital and you can wait for your entire capital to grow to double. If you put 1/10th of your stash in a bet, then your profit per 1 successful bet (a bet that ended in profit) will be 0.1% each bet and each 100 successful bets (without any loss) will get you your 10% capital's double, and your entire capital's 1/10th in profits. But they all cannot be winning bets, or all the dice sites will go bankrupt some day.

I think many here leave everything to chance!
If you put the "win chance" in 99% do not expect profits, there they are estimated  lost, yes! You calculate losses, the majority always tend to calculate how much they will win, in any case, this intrinsic, calculate profits or losses, it is an estimated value that you should expect.

99% is only "smoke" if the size of the bet versus the return of profit or loss is not taken into account, with a factor of "payout" x1.01 this serves to win only "wagered," it is simple, do not expect profits when you should estimate a loss point. (at least in the short term)

The risk of losses here is very bad (99%) if you do not have a good bet vs bankroll ratio, now the incredible thing or the wrong thing for a newbie is to want with his last 1000 (any coins) say, "win chance" of 99 % and bets of 100; by the way, for those who like large numbers, it is simple to extrapolate.

Sure you know this, but let's review; Every time you bet 100 you win 1 but every time you lose it is 100, you put yourself in profit -99 and with 1.01 you need to win 99 times at the rate of that factor, how you recover by betting long and not short as perhaps you can believe.

BTW, in general rule for a player the losses are significant not for their size in individual value but in relation to your bankroll, it may seem that losing 64 bitcoin is a lot for a wagered, not if you have at least 6400 BTC.

But the "cherry on the cake" comes when that wagered gives you to improve a VIP level or win an additional prize, that is the plus you have to learn to manage.

Watch the parameters, and learn to know when you are going to "win or lose" understand it, losing is part of the game, do not ignore it, on the contrary, keep it in mind, those who are lucky win today, tomorrow, but in the long term they lose and that is where they appear the ones that come with their sad personal stories.

Have fun, let's not enact luck to win, there is, but there are numbers that help, concepts such as bankroll, bet size, odds, pot odds, variance, ROI and a great etc that apply to the world of gambling mainly, must be required reading sometime between bet and bet 

Whoever wants to dedicate himself to the world of gambling, .

opps !! just fun? then don't waste time "x49" and 2% what should happen in 100 bets? You win 2 and lose 98. 
Today, right now:

I agree, but this is kinda hard to achieve.  Those whose luck is mediocre oftentimes exhaust their bankroll even before hitting those big-time winnings.  Though I experience this kind of event when I hit a bet with a 990 multipliers, it never happens again lol.  And one thing we need to put in our mind, if ever we won a huge amount, always withdraw our winnings and just leave a small amount needed for our next gambling session.

For me, betting on low odds and high multipliers works better, small bets chasing big multipliers is the right way to end with a decent profit. But the luck factor is really important, without luck doesn't matter what method are we using, we will bust in the long run.

But with the right luck, we only need one nice shot to hit the moon.

Why not do arbitrage gambling, then bet 2 times, if the results are good then you stop, and then move to another platform, of courses reputable one then try betting 2 times 1/2 stash.
You just need, to figure out the pattern, of the winning streak then after consecutive winnings, you bet low until you start winning again. Also adjust the chance of winning to see, which provides best results.

It seems to me there is no point in talking about what is better and what is worse, since the result is always the same.
And winning a large amount of money on a bet with a large odds is also unrealistic, since your initial bet must be substantial. Maybe this is real if you guess two bets with a huge odds in a row and after the first win, bet all the won money. But the probability of such a gain is illusory.

I have a different strategy than most people, if we play games based on luck like dice. I always switch strategies after a few bets,
because my opinion that the luck of each strategy is different. It may sound silly, but for me is working. Because based on my experience
playing Dice games if you use the same strategy for a long time, will cause a long streak loss.

theres nothing to be curious if we always see that occur  to ours to other people  . 99 percent win is not a 100 percent win , theres that 1 percent chance that you will loose but 1 percent is verry small . they can be verry lucky in a way that they loose too often  .

 using 1 percent chance is more worst because the chance of you winning is verry tiny but if you got lucky you can win in a few rolls and you can win huge too for a small bet due to the high odds

I've tried such strategies as well. In this case, the deposit is reduced according to a different algorithm, we can say that we see an endless sequence of steps: first a large group of steps down (we are talking about the amount of money on the deposit), then one big up, then again a large group of steps down, then one big up, etc. On average, the sum "height" of groups of small steps is slightly higher than the height of the step up, so the deposit gradually touches zero.

Bankroll management is very important whenever you are dealing with luck based gambling. With how op deal with it placing 50% of his entire bankroll, if he continously wins then quit he may have a decent earnings, like when he already hits 200% of his bankroll earnings that supposed to be the sign that he should take his rest and enjoy 😊.

Even how you design your strategy, if you don't know how to control yourself the chance of winning is slim.

From all I can gather from OP and my knowledge of the game, it remains a game of luck as seen in the inconsistency in your method which is evident in it ending in a loss.
It might have been a technique or strategy if, on a scale of 1-10, the probability remained in the range of 7-10.
With that much rolls (#100) and still the ups and downs persist with the downs winning... It's a no!

I am amazed you made 100 rolls at 90% but should you not be making 500% or more profit if you never busted in that time? I mean, you actually got really really lucky with variance,,, so you should have cut it off at that time;)

Of course it is a crazy strategy and you should go lower to last longer,,, but hey, end of the day everything works out to be the same with odds. I know someone who just deposits and does x100 in one shot. For me it is silly but it is his money:)

If the games are based on luck, I think he can still use a different strategy to see how big your chance to win. And if you see that the chance is not too small, then I think you can have time to win the games. But to be honest, when it's about gambling games based on luck, we will difficult to win many times because luck will not always be beside us. As long as you know when you must stop playing on those games, I think you can get your win money and minimize your losses.

It is indeed too high. Risking your money in a very low return and high risk of losing your money isn't advisable at all. 10% can really screw your entire balance in just 2 bets. You better be playing at slightly higher multiplier like 1.4/1.5x. Lower your chance of winning at at least 70-60% and set a goal for a session don't get greedy. Playing with 90% odds is risky trust me, 2 lose bets and your balance is gone if you're playing in small budget.

If this strategy will be used. It's kinda the more you roll, the more risk you have or the more loss will you encounter.
There are also some gamblers who using martingale or custom martingale or reverse martingale, and some of them are using that strategy but their wage is different, like if they reach particular X wins or loss, some of their wager change or will reset.
But, risk is still there and you still can't guarantee you will earn a huge profits here.

Indeed that 10% risk is still huge.  I have observed it several times.  Even with 98% win chance, you can never beat the casino because one need to win 50+ times to double the wagered amount and just need a single loss to bust it.  At the end, player still at the losing end because it is very seldom to have a 50+ winning streak.

As of the strategy, it should adapt on the situation.  A player cannot rely on a single strategy because sooner or later it lose its effectiveness.

these games are based on luck, so whatever strategy you deem will give you the best returns, you still have no assurance that you will get what you are expecting from it!
 integrate the house edge, and your "calculations' will be off. so i suggest, with this type of game, just enjoy yourself playing because there's no mathematical equation that will resolve your winnings here. it may prolong your game but still this is based on luck so you cant escape your fate here. there are several strategies in dice games but it only works for certain period, not all the time you can rely on it. lets just admit to ourselves that we are in gambling here!

The most curios thing is that people always say: I bet with 99% chance of win and still lose once, twice or more in dice. What about to use 1% win of chance and bet this way? Less loss but chance of higher win if you increase bet on for example on every 30th bet.

Btw house edge is 1%, the max that you can do is to gain 49.5% chance of win but consider that casino has 50.5% chance. You can't beat numbers in math, 1+1=2. So on long term, your chances to win even decreases, it doesn't rise. As simple as it is.

If you do want to prolong your game and want to enjoy for a bit then these strategies would really make it more longer since you are trying out your best to bet as minimal as possible.

We can really say that theres no holy grail when it comes to gambling but there are instances that using up some strategies can really make up a hit.

It might not be working forever but if your luck would accompanied such gameplay on a specific time then you would really had the possibility.

   Bitbunny you are right, it all depends on individuals! While some people are willing to accept some level of risk, others are not.
Level of risk can be different, and different people will act differently. In this specific case I would not be comfortable risking
1/2 of my bankroll on any risk level! I would choose much less bet, on any odd! It means I would try x1.1 or x11, but I would
adjust my bet to my bankroll! Gambling is not all about luck, there's some strategy as well!

90% means if you bet $1, you will get $1.1 if you win, right?
That 10% is still a risk if the dice rolls the other end where you don't expect it to roll. I know about small profits with big rolls but if they are going to give profits only, these sites will go bankrupt and so, at least one or two bad rolls come in surely. Putting half of your stash on each bet is too risky, and if you are a high roller on a site, you should not do more than 10% of your entire stash to save yourself from losing everything.

Some people just like to bet with high risk. I agree that 10% is still rather high but for some it's acceptable. Some think if they risk big they might win big, so estimstion is individual and for some high risk makes more adrenaline and more satisfaction in playing.

I'm sure martingale works as long as you can sustain to double the huge bets until the losing streak breaks. I'm still going to wonder whether the casino will really cheat obviously through 20 - 30 losing bets. I will definitely announce it to the whole world that I lose successive 30 bets in dice to this casino. Had this happen before?

I'd stay away from that casino if someone lose consequtive 30 rolls on it.

It’s all luck in the end in dice games because say you are going to bet say just single with 90% chance to win and if lost that bet then how bad it could get then that. Also say betting on 10% chance to win and going to place single bet and if luck is good you win it and make money and go. Startegy here are every difficult to make and might not even work it seems.

Even that 10% chance of losing is still risky since you said that you bet half of your stash so if a certain bet or roll that you made and that bet is one of the bad bets in that 10% chance of losing then you'll lose that amount and your profit will decrease of course. 1/2 stash is still high in my opinion and it's much better if you bet 1/4 or 1/8 if your capital is high.

The result will be the same, do not waste time (if you are doing this not for fun, but for the sake of winning).
I had a different experience and I chose even higher chances of winning - 99%. If I remember correctly, the bet was 100 satoshi, after the first defeat I increased the bet 100 times - 10,000 satoshi (to return the lost).It seems that the chance of losing both bets in a row is small, but on a large number of bets (I set the automatic game), the loss inevitably came.

Common strategies on dice:

The Martingale Strategy
he Break-Even Martingale Strategy
The Inverse Martingale Strategy
The D’Alembert Strategy
The Paroli Strategy

Here are few but the most strat been used by majority is that Martingale strategy.Some say it works and majority been saying that it isnt specially if you do it
for lots of rolls.House edge will kill you and a long red losing streak will surely vanished you capital into thin air.Strategy that had been created is just
really making the game longer but doesnt really change the fact that all things vary on how lucky you are specially into this type of game.

90% and then roll under make you stay in the game for long time but losing just 1 or two can lose it all. The strategy isn't new, there are users who actaully wrote aout this type of strategy but it lloks like an experiment only.

Make it 97% to make worth. Losing one bet will lose all te coins you won. It may be worth checking the provably fair of the casino of that single loss bet this time.   

Point taken. Still, I want to emphasized that we all have our own strategies, which are different from one another.
And still it depends on the seed if it will go along with chosen strategy. It just a matter of time and maybe yes, luck.
I have tried some strategies that worked out, for a long term, on a particular website but did not work on the other sites.

So OP is playing x1.1 with 1/2 of his stack?! Am I right? After a million bets I can say this is the most crazy strategy I have ever seen! With half of your deposit you play x1.1 and for what you are hoping to happen? Before I say anything else, here is my statistic: +100 winning rolls (just sometimes), max 7 reds! I got busted many times on x1.1, I learned my lesson!
In 10k rolls you will encounter 4 reds streak few times (if you are lucky), more rolls more chances to stumble upon 5-7 reds. I played that strategy many times, with huge rise and for wagering wars, and more times I was -ev than I was in profit!
Longer I play I am more convinced that chasing high payouts is much better! You have different strategies for chasing x99, x330. x3300 and x9900! Once you hit it, change seeds and try again! I am experimenting with x4, x7, x9 with auto betting, and I have different results after running them for days! After all you need to have certain bankroll to run certain strategies, the more safe you wish to be that will affect the profit you can make, the more risks more gains. There's no other way to explain that, you can make dust and be safe, if you wish to make more you will have to risk and that changes everything, you can be lucky and make profit or unlucky and lose what you have.

I had tried those strategies too like on wining probability say 60% to 99% till and always had a perception that much better with higher % chances of winning but at times it had happened that back to back lost bets even on higher probability and then realized it is just a game in the end and such startegy may not be really useful in the longer term as if it’s not my lucky day even bettering on 99% winning , that 1% of losing still exist and I may lose the bet. Betting on 1/2 for those who play for money is better as in short time you either make or lose rather than playing those with 10% or say 20% chances of winning as in the end for you to make money it could be time consuming process.

dice gambling is not easy to predict even though with any strategy it cannot provide accuracy above 90%, all gambling that uses dice is completely out of luck, so if you have high luck is the best way to win dice gambling.

When it comes to strategies being used for dice games, Martingale strategy is really popular and is being use by the majority.
But as mentioned before, it depends upon the bankroll of a player and so there will be different outcomes for every player.
That is why I am also thinking that these dice games are mostly about instincts and predictions then strategies will come after.

The best strategy for Dice games in my opinion is martingale, but you have to be careful about using the Martingale strategy.
Because sometimes if you use it in long runs, you will experience a lot of lose streak. Therefore, if you want to use the Martingale
strategy, you must have a large bankroll and use a small payout of 2x or 4x. Then every bet always put 5-10 satoshis, if you
use auto bet put more lower it 2-5 satoshis. With this strategy I succeeded in making a lot of profit from dice games.

If you want to lower the house edge, the best way to do so is to go all in at once since the chances of winning in the short term is way higher when compared to the chances of winning in the long term.

If you don't care about the house edge and only want to have fun for a long period, I recommend Oscar's grind since this strategy helps you stay in the game for a long period of time.

These strategies apply to every casino site(Not just Yolodice).

The thing with martingale is that you need a huge bankroll to cover long steaks of losses with a small gain only. It's nothing wrong with the strategy only that most people tend to start to high and don't have enough funds to cover bad beats. It also is very time consuming to follow such a strategy. I did it myself for a while but I am just back to less gambling. I try to go for high payout bets with less chances of winning.

i am working with DUCKERBOT TO PLAYS WITH DUCKDICE
as helping on reducing cost of efforts that maybe with the good luck i might compound 15 dollars from the cashout of balance from faucet airdrop.

Probably you do a martingale strategy and I say it's a bad strategy in gambling.
Dice game is for fun game actually, odds are not in our favor and based on my experience, chasing loses will result to more loses.

There are threads created already about this " martingale method " and most are claiming that in the long run its not really a good strategy after all. It might have worked for you when you used it, but for others, it might not specially those as you mentioned does not know how to use it. Gambling is a game of chance and not by best strategies.

if its a self made strategy yes but if its a public strategy like the popular " martingale method " that will surely work for everybody because whats the point of its popularity if not all are using it ?   i am one of those that use martingale method and i can say that it was really working but you must know how to use it properly  .


some says that dice games are based on mathematics meaning strategy is really working . this was the reason that methods such as martingale were released along with the existence of dice game and other form of gambling games  .

Lots of strategies being tested out and you are right that it will work for you but not for everybody which it would result to different results and knowing
that dice site is fully luck based one then theres no such guarantee strategy that would make sure profits on long run.This isnt only talking about Yolodice
but all of dice sites.

There's none that exist aside from controlling yourself, dice is good for spending your spare time and money, trying to make any combinations just to hit some lucky wins, but in the real sense you are always taking chances doing a risky pick and wait for the outcome, play to enjoy and the rest will be an additional rewards for your time and efforts.

True, any strategy won't work in the long run like using it for 10 hours straight. It might be works but it's only good for short run.

I also have a strategy, payout 3.96x and increase on loss 80%, get ready your balance to tank at least 20 long reds. After you got amount of profit, stop, use other strategy,

It is true that dice gambling is all about predictions and chance of luck. But i think the strategy in dice game is if you are good in predicting things for you to win.

I also play dice game and it is good game to play as my pastime. I think there are no strategies in a dice game because it is on a chance of luck and predictions.

Its good to give up gambling early as you can than to say sorry later on. The chances of winning in gambling is too low and if you just chase all the money you’ve lose its too impossible for you to achieve that without losing more.

We may discover a lot of strategies in gambling but at the end of our playing time, you will just realize that its useless and its really not working in the long run. Better to play for fun.

There are one strategy in Gambling which is to follow no strategy LOL

I played HI-LOW card games. The highest card is the K and the lowest is the A. When K came I bet for the LOW and when A came I bet for the HI. I played with the demo account. Seems like I was winning and winning and winning.

Then I got greedy. I deposited some and started to do the same. I won few but then I hit the equal card LOL. Lost money including the winning. I kept going the same. Again after few draw the same happened. I was busted LOL


My question is that why I did not lose a single draw when I was playing with the demo account?

There is no such thing as a good strategy that will give consistent profits for playing dice.  The odds are always against you.  If there was a way to constantly win there would be no casinos in business.   If I had to say one way that is the best strategy then I would place a few large bets.  Once you start to place a lot of bets the probabilities will be equal to expected results.

That´s exactly what happened to me.

I got 20+ consecutive wins by luck. I just got confident with my 200% gains and raised my bets.

Then I got busted in a 3-4 consecutive losses, which made me lose all my gains and my initial investment lol

What are you on about? Casinos love people that use Martingale, there's no system to detect it and make you lose.
Variance will do that automatically. Once you encounter a long losing streak, you're going to go bust eventually.

Its a game of chance, you already made 200% from your capital, why not call it a day and play again tomorrow? Don't forget about the "house edge". Just have fun and don't try to beat the house when you play. That's the time when you get this mind set to recover your losses and unknowingly, you are already spending beyond your limit.

It's all up to you and your risk appetite. I was just responding earlier in the BitDice thread, because that site has also a lot of crazy gamblers there who drop down huge amounts of BTC on 1 or 2 rolls!

If you intend to make 50% of your bankroll, or double it, to be honest, 1 big roll to get the exact payout is what I'd recommend. Then you succeed or fail in 1 attempt.

If your bankroll is too small anyway, you will usually hit a bad streak long before you hit your profit target, because variance;)

When I play dice games at yolodice, I don't use any strategy because I don't think that will makes my luck comes. But maybe there is a good strategy that might works in the dice games so you can have a chance to win. But still, as many other said, you need to have luck inside the games so you can win in every gambling websites. And if you cannot win in more than 5x, then perhaps, you need to break for a while and try in the next day.

Most of the luck decides, but I use the method, that if I lose one hand, then I skip and then I give a higher amount of money and while I profit, my return is lost. There is no strategy that will make you a good player. The only way to get money is not to be greedy and not to be tempted to provoke others. we need to know when it is enough for us and when we need to get up the only way to get money.

The dice games had some unique techniques for attracting people more easily when you play one time it will definitely make you to continue again and again this will be the main Chatterjee they are following to attract the people and the people will also be interested to play gambling like this way because it is different from other.

No matter how we set the strategy, sooner or later we will bust. Strategy works when we are lucky only, otherwise we may lose all our money in several first bets. If you set stop on profit, you should also set lose limit to avoid lose all balance.

90% winning chance is profitable if you  gamble with massive amount but remember, sometimes 90% not always 90%
Personally I prefer martiangle and I can made 25% about 400 rolls

Set winning chance 33% , on loss 50% , you can set stop auto gambling when profit xxx
You can see the different !

You are right. I am done with that. Chasing lost is impossible and will only lead to more losses...

I will give up for now, will try again just for fun later

No strategies at all, I also tried that on Bustadice before when I was working on their signature campaign and received a weekly reward that I used to gamble. Here is my experience on that gambling site, I set the chance to 50% and the bet amount to 1/2 my stash. Even the reward is too small in every dice roll but I'm sure it is always winning. But perhaps, if I have a huge capital to gamble in dice I prefer to patiently wait even in every roll a small profit come.

We should also have a limitation in gambling if you have a profit then stop then if you have lost your set amount then stop and come back in the next day. Chasing lost will make worst when you are in gambling.

That is why the gambling sites making more revenue,you need 100 bets to reach that profits but they need only two.
What you can do one more thing is when to stop bets,if you stop with those 100 bets and get out with 200% profits then you will be called as lucky or you are not.

There is no working strategy in luck games. This becomes more intensified in computer controlled luck games like dice sites. Keep in mind one of the biggest lost bets in dice game in which the amount lost was 7069 Bitcoins with a 96.2% chance to win.

That above would be enough reason for me to not try any strategy in luck based games.

90% chance of win? so the odds will be most likely on 1.XX.  If 90x payout then this will need up small bets prior on how your entire stash would hold up with lose steaks.
Are you only a new gambler? Quite odd for Sr. member doesn't know that any strategies wont really work no matter what specially with dice games.

Try https://mydicebot.com, maybe you can have some new ideas.

Especially MyDiceBot includes Simulator, you can test and verify your strategies inside it, without real betting and real risk.

when i play dice games i only used martingale method where you increase your bets times two after a loss . that is to ensure that recover your losses while you earn a profit at the same time  but if ever you won , you dont need to double your bets .

the method works good for awhile but eventually the system detects you  .  thats the time that you must stop and try again next time or try it again on other gambling sites with dice games and hi/lo games  mechanics  .

other strategy is betting 1 sats or lower then roll the dice until you loose three to four times in a row .  then max  your bet  .

Any strategy won't work in the long run or atleast will give you profit. All strategy that you can think of or found on the internet can be used on gambling but it doesnt mean you will surely win. Its still a matter of luck and if you can control your self to stop when you are already in profit

Hello,

I was playing Yolodice today, and I was trying to figure out an strategy to have the maximum profit and lowest risk possible.

There are some things you can control in the game:

-Bet Amount
-Chance to win


I set the chance to 90% and the bet amount to 1/2 my stash. Then I started rolling. I made more than 100 rolls lol

I made a 200% profit in 5 minutes. However, I made 2 bad bets, and lost almost all. (Terrible experience)
Then I was able to recover my previous profit with the same strategy... and then made a few bad bets and lost almost all again.

I sent some more money to recover my lost profit. I am far from it now, but I was thinking about those 2 parameters we can set.

Do you think a 1/2 stash bet is too high? Maybe something like 1/4 or 1/5 is safer, but the reward is low as well. What do you think about chance? Should I keep it higher than 90, or try something lower?