About giving campaign managers positive feedback for 'just' doing their job.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

When I see the many positive feedbacks that different managers have on their profiles, I think that the most optimal ones are those that refer to something other than simply doing the job they have to do, such as having taken money out of their own pocket when they had not yet received the funds from the company, or relocating participants to other campaigns when a campaign is over.

In a dystopian society like this, doing your job is a trustworthy act and knowing you can trust someone to do their job which involved handling finances and circulating it without any issues is a good point to note. It also helps the project owners in deciding which manager to go with, if I was the owner of a project looking to run a campaign, it will be invaluable to me to be able to check which of them can do their job and have been doing so for a long period of time.

To the other point you made, giving someone a positive feedback for relocating participants to another campaign could pass the wrong message. If the feedback is giving by someone who was relocated it looks a lot like back scratching.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

This is something I have thought about many times as I have participated in many campaigns over time and have not, so far, left positive feedback to any manager.

Should we give them positive feedback for doing their job?

When I see the many positive feedbacks that different managers have on their profiles, I think that the most optimal ones are those that refer to something other than simply doing the job they have to do, such as having taken money out of their own pocket when they had not yet received the funds from the company, or relocating participants to other campaigns when a campaign is over.

I don't want this to be understood as a criticism of those who do leave positive feedback simply because they have been involved in the ‘xxx’ campaign for a long time or in various ‘xxxx’ manager campaigns, because after all it is logical that if someone manages campaigns that over time add up to a lot of bitcoins dealt with, this will be reflected in their profile. That's why I put ‘just’ in quotation marks because if at the end of the year they have handled a lot of bitcoins that is an clear indication of their trustworthiness.

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

Quoting directly from your post, I’m not considering what others have said in the replies, as most users seem to follow the comments of legendary members and echo similar sentiments. "I’m a little different." Ewww

It’s important to note that one cannot become a campaign manager without an already solid history of trustworthiness. If someone has managed multiple campaigns over time without any issues, they’ve proven their reliability and professionalism. In my opinion, that alone deserves positive feedback, as it reflects their ability to consistently deliver in a trust-based environment.

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Quote from: Ambatman on January 21, 2025, 09:09:15 AM

My first Feedback was with cryptoneurbrainboss because of what he did when I couldn't access my account.
I would have given some other manager too but don't want it to seem like I'm ass licking

Yes, that's one thing that has also stopped me in the past from leaving positive feedback, that if it was just for having participated in a campaign it sounded like ass licking to increase the chances of being accepted in another one.

Quote from: KingsDen on January 22, 2025, 11:21:16 AM

I understand your honesty in this post. Many users have contributed in this thread, but on the 3rd page, I still want to give me sincere opinion.

I see your comment on page 2.

Quote from: KingsDen on January 22, 2025, 11:21:16 AM

If a campaign manager is giving x amount of money for a campaign to run for an x amount of time, and the manager decided to scam and halt the campaign, I think majority of the DT members will paint the profile red if proven guilty.

In same manner, if that manager did run with the money and manages to deliver the campaign over a period of time, they also deserve a positive feedback.

I believe in rewarding goodness in order to entice more people to do good than punishing the bad to scare people away from bad doings.

Right, this is the most generalized opinion of the thread, which has convinced me to leave positive feedback to managers in the future, but probably after a while. Either for having been in several campaigns of short duration or if it is a single one for having been a long time.

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First I would like to draw you back on the meaning of trust

What is Trust:
to believe that someone is good and honest and will not harm you, or that something is safe and reliable:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trust

When you believe that the person have done his work very well and handled funds entrusted to him properly, how do you show it here on the forum?
Definitely by leaving a positive feedback, so don't see the positive trust as something out of place, it is just a way satisfied people indicates their faith in the person that provided those services to them or those that kept their agreement. Money too is a very delicate concern, and handling it properly is not "Just", it takes a lot of discipline to be diligent with entrusted funds. Therefore, I validate the fact of leaving a positive trust for any manager that handles funds correctly.

furthermore, I believe the reward for good work is more work and giving positive feedback/review will be a testimony of the manager's efficiency and experience and would help convince other companies that such manager is competent to handle their projects as efficiently as possible.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

I understand your honesty in this post. Many users have contributed in this thread, but on the 3rd page, I still want to give me sincere opinion.

If a campaign manager is giving x amount of money for a campaign to run for an x amount of time, and the manager decided to scam and halt the campaign, I think majority of the DT members will paint the profile red if proven guilty.

In same manner, if that manager did run with the money and manages to deliver the campaign over a period of time, they also deserve a positive feedback.

I believe in rewarding goodness in order to entice more people to do good than punishing the bad to scare people away from bad doings.

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The Government job is to serve the citizen but we don't see that anymore.
Atleast giving a feedback that they are doing their job speaks volumes.
My first Feedback was with cryptoneurbrainboss because of what he did when I couldn't access my account.
I would have given some other manager too but don't want it to seem like I'm ass licking
When honestly I like the way they handle the campaign in satisfying their client and signature participants.

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Well, first of all, at least the positive feedback do not cause the controversy that the negative ones do, or even that some neutral ones do, as we can see with the commotion that there is lately in the section. On the other hand, I think that the one who has answered the best is the one who has achieved more merits with his answer, which does not mean that the others have not been useful.

Quote from: examplens on January 19, 2025, 05:50:28 PM

It can be seen in other ways. if I leave positive feedback to the manager, it increases my chances for the next campaign.

Good point, although I had not realized it. I'm going to run and leave positive feedback to the managers I've worked for, lmao.

Quote from: JollyGood on January 19, 2025, 06:16:53 PM

I suppose it could become a problem if a manager asks for positive feedback from participants on the basis they could be dropped from the campaign for refusing.

I believe that if that were to happen and it were to be proven, it would cause a huge controversy.

Quote from: Shishir99 on January 20, 2025, 05:09:57 AM

Ok. What is your point of view about what I mentioned in my previous post?

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I didn't create a thread to talk about what you want to talk about, I created it to talk about the point that was on my mind: if it's more optimal to give managers positive feedback for some reason apart from simply doing their job and not scam.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

A manager doesn't just manage a campaign. He convinces various companies to promote here and they take funds from various companies and keep it for themselves and distribute it among the users. When a manager distributes thousands of dollars to users, why should he not be trusted?

Positive Trust Only Feedback Anyone can leave a feedback here. It is not unfair to give positive feedback to a manager after receiving thousands of dollars in payments. If a manager doesn't get positive feedback after managing thousands of dollars, who will get it ?

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It differs from giving positive trust to a campaign or project manager and giving positive trust to ANN topic of that campaign manager. giving a campaign/project manager positive trust to a single campaign or project may not be good, but to ANN for many postive feedback would be acceptable.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 19, 2025, 05:36:34 AM

Me neither, which you don't seem to have noticed.

Ok. What is your point of view about what I mentioned in my previous post?

People give positive feedback to some forum users for being a great members of the forum and for spam busting/scam busting. How do you see that actually? And the opposite is, that people leave negative feedback for spam and trolling. How accurate these feedbacks are and what is your opinion about it? Why does nobody talk about this? In my opinion, these are incorrect uses of the feedback system. Also, some members use neutral feedback as their daily note. How do you see that?

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I suppose it could become a problem if a manager asks for positive feedback from participants on the basis they could be dropped from the campaign for refusing. This pretty much sums up the situation. At the end of the day a transaction took place between a campaign manager and several campaign participants (as well as the campaign manager and the business that sent the funds for promotional purposes) therefore is the receiver wants to leave appropriate trust it is a valid reason.

Quote from: JeromeTash on January 18, 2025, 04:28:00 PM

If someone receives Bitcoins worth thousands of dollars from a company, but then decides to distribute it as intended by the brand that is being advertised rather than scam it, then tell us why they don't deserve positive feedback.

If the manager is doing a great job with different signature campaigns and handling the funds well, then other brands that may be planning to advertise around the forum need to know this, thus the positive feedback. That's the whole purpose of the feedback system. Simple as that.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

This is something I have thought about many times as I have participated in many campaigns over time and have not, so far, left positive feedback to any manager.

Should we give them positive feedback for doing their job?

It can be seen in other ways. if I leave positive feedback to the manager, it increases my chances for the next campaign.
Or also, scammers are just doing their job, so we give them negative feedback for that.

Now you reminded me that I should leave feedback to the one manager, because he ran the campaign for a few weeks and paid out of his own pocket, even though the owners did not refill the campaign wallet. Although it caused him a loss, he still showed responsibility towards the participants.

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This is nice topic to discuss with and I like your topics in this part of the forum to discuss with. Keep the good work going.
Everyone has their reasons of giving campaign manager a positive feedback and probably because of the kind gesture of the management. As you have said, you have participated in many campaigns and you can see how they handle things. The way one campaign manager does might be favorable some participants while some participants like it. So feedback is given base on the way the receiver does things. Feedback should be given if the two parties did a transaction successfully and that has been done between managers and participants so if anyone feels like giving positive feedback then he is free even though the manager is doing is job but as the giver z the manager has done a credible work therefore he deserves a good reputable feedback from him. And those who understand feedback use it well.

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Eventough I haven't left any such positive feedback, but I see this as completely normal and acceptable thing. Yeah, campaign managers are just doing what they're supposed to do, but after all, in most cases they're dealing with big money as they work as escrows.
But then you can question any other job where people leave feedbacks, for example restaurants - that's first thing which comes to my head. But I think it's good when people are leaving positive feedback about something, rather than just leaving negative when something goes wrong. Then you can see that's safe to deal with that person or go to that restaurant for example.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

Should we give them positive feedback for doing their job?

Yes, perhaps we have varying views about those who provide positive feedback to managers, yes, feedback in my view is something that can have a perturbation impact, thank you, as a form of response and progress for the manager himself.

I remembered one of the sources I had read about feedback on managers.
It reads:

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Positive feedback is an act of recognizing good performance, extra effort, and contributions made by a manager. This can be a simple act, as simple as saying thank you to a manager for something they have done recently, You can offer words of support, thanks, or recognition for a job well done.

There are no excessive elements, I think it is normal for someone who has been hired by a manager to say thank you, for what the manager has given to his employees so far, in my view positive feedback is something that is normal and appropriate, it depends on how you view the manager.

Moreover, managers don't ask for it, the positive feedback given by their employees has no real impact on managers in their performance in the business assessments they work on, the proof can be seen from several managers who are no longer active in campaigning and who have feedback positive return.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 19, 2025, 05:20:20 AM

Hey, Pmalek. Who are you responding to? Not to me.

It's not a response to any one person in particular. It's the opinion I have on the matter of giving or not giving positive trust to campaign managers.

Consider the following scenario: Person A and Person B exchange bitcoin for monero one with the other. Person A leaves positive trust to Person B, describing their positive experience. No one would question whether it was alright for Person A to leave such a feedback. If that is considered a normal or acceptable use of trust ratings, I see no reason why a campaign participant couldn't express, through positive feedback, their experience with a specific campaign manager who has paid them much more than the value of the exchange between Persons A and B from above.

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I think if people are giving the feedback based on their experience with the manager and fact that they always receive their pay on time, then it's fine.

If the manager specifically asks them to leave a trust raring, then it's wrong.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 19, 2025, 05:51:28 AM

Quote from: memehunter on January 19, 2025, 05:45:11 AM

This is the very essence of trust; delivering your job.
If you think your trust feedback (just an example) requires more than just delivering the job then you are expecting way too much.

Good point but if so it should also be the other way around: the campaign manager leaving you positive feedback for doing your job, and that doesn't happen.

ahh, now I see clearly!
Nobody is forcing you to give trust feedback to anyone. The nature of your question was, should we? Grin

I do not expect any trust feedback from any job and I think it is the right approach if you want to sustain your mental health for the long term.

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Quote from: memehunter on January 19, 2025, 05:45:11 AM

This is the very essence of trust; delivering your job.
If you think your trust feedback (just an example) requires more than just delivering the job then you are expecting way too much.

Good point but if so it should also be the other way around: the campaign manager leaving you positive feedback for doing your job, and that doesn't happen.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

Should we give them positive feedback for doing their job?

This is the very essence of trust; delivering your job.
If you think your trust feedback (just an example) requires more than just delivering the job then you are expecting way too much.
Yes, this system is not optimal as it leaves some element of a person going out of their way to deliver the job but just because honesty has become his habit (which requires a lot of character) does not negate his trustworthiness in any sense.
I mean it just looks very easy to an untrained eye but delivering what is expected is a lot, every time.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on January 19, 2025, 05:33:32 AM

I don't find it inaccurate.

Me neither, which you don't seem to have noticed.

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I don't find it inaccurate. But there is other feedback that you should look at.

People often write feedback to members like "He is a great forum user, I trust him" or "He is a great scam buster/spam buster" and many more like this. What does the trust system have to do with a great forum user? I don't know what to think about scam buster/spam buster. But positive feedback for being a great forum user does not justify it. There are opposites as well, people leave negative feedback for spam, and sometimes for trolling as well. Neutral should be the correct use in these cases.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 18, 2025, 04:28:00 PM

If someone receives Bitcoins worth thousands of dollars from a company, but then decides to distribute it as intended by the brand that is being advertised rather than scam it, then tell us why they don't deserve positive feedback.

If you read the OP you wouldn't ask that question:

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

I don't want this to be understood as a criticism of those who do leave positive feedback simply because they have been involved in the ‘xxx’ campaign for a long time or in various ‘xxxx’ manager campaigns, because after all it is logical that if someone manages campaigns that over time add up to a lot of bitcoins dealt with, this will be reflected in their profile. <...>

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

On the other hand, in the long run it is more profitable for them not to scam than to scam.

Quote from: Pmalek on January 19, 2025, 03:34:38 AM

I don't think giving campaign managers positive feedback for the jobs they do is an unorthodox use of the trust system. They may hold and distribute tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars throughout their management careers <...>

Hey, Pmalek. Who are you responding to? Not to me. Again:

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

I don't want this to be understood as a criticism of those who do leave positive feedback simply because they have been involved in the ‘xxx’ campaign for a long time or in various ‘xxxx’ manager campaigns, because after all it is logical that if someone manages campaigns that over time add up to a lot of bitcoins dealt with, this will be reflected in their profile. <...>

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

Quote from: Apocollapse on January 19, 2025, 04:29:17 AM

How is this supposed to be positive feedback? relocating participants to other campaigns is a "good gesture", but there's no money involvement here.

When that is reflected in feedback about having participated in campaigns and also things like that. Not in isolation.

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Hmm, why all users are assume the campaign managers hold the funds? Huh

It could be the campaign managers not hold the funds, but they use escrow or the owner distribute the reward by themselves.

So, how about this situation?

I kind of understand, if we judge based on money involvement to leave positive feedback, in this case technically, participants don't have to leave positive feedback and at the same time we shouldn't leave negative feedback to the campaign managers since they don't hold the funds, no?

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

relocating participants to other campaigns when a campaign is over.

How is this supposed to be positive feedback? relocating participants to other campaigns is a "good gesture", but there's no money involvement here.

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I don't think giving campaign managers positive feedback for the jobs they do is an unorthodox use of the trust system. They may hold and distribute tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars throughout their management careers. If they do this properly, they deserve positive feedback by those who have been on the receiving end of their work or it can be from a completely unrelated person who has observed their actions. If you didn't get paid the money that was promised to you for your involvement in a signature campaign, you would be angry and perhaps tag the manager for scamming you. So, it works both ways.

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It's just like any other deal. You have a promise to pay and a risk of not getting paid. Like e.g. if you buy a trinket and risk that the seller won't deliver. Nothing wrong with positive trust here, if it's not extorted/solicited/begged/reciprocated etc.

Edit: another way to look at it - if the opposite happened, i.e. campaign manager didn't pay on time/correctly/etc, would they get a type 2/3 flag (contract violation). If so, then positive trust rating for paying on time/correctly/etc is justified IMO.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

Most campaign managers are entrusted with huge sums of money and they disburse them adequately without bias and complaints. Anyone who can be trusted with money deserve positive trust and all the good praises showered on them. I remember some managers that even pay from their pocket in weeks that their client stop communicating, I don't want to mention name but I have seen at least two managers do that which shows that they value their integrity more than anything, and hence deserve appreciation in anyway we deem necessary.

If you see how greedy some bounty managers (in the altcoins service board) are in terms of stealing the funds of campaign given to them to manage after collecting service charge, you will know that the bitcoin service board managers are decent and should be appreciated for job always well done.

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If someone receives Bitcoins worth thousands of dollars from a company, but then decides to distribute it as intended by the brand that is being advertised rather than scam it, then tell us why they don't deserve positive feedback.

If the manager is doing a great job with different signature campaigns and handling the funds well, then other brands that may be planning to advertise around the forum need to know this, thus the positive feedback. That's the whole purpose of the feedback system. Simple as that.

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Giving a feedback is been determined on the transaction you have done with someone, it be determined on how sincere the person is to you, so your feedback to any user means you trust the user and other people who wants to partner with the user will not be scared of working with person....so you can give a manager of signature campaign feedback base on holding of the funds company paid to their escrow for them to discharge payment at appropriate time to people who promotes their brands....so the trust you have on them and love you have on their managerial activities is due for you to give them feedback...but it's not compulsory that everyone most give same feedback, it's individual concerns.

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Making payments on time could trigger positive feedback. Simply choosing your application for one of the last spots (for example) would not be nearly as good of a reason, imo.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

This is among the criteria I believe those clients will possibly checked. It's about handling funds and being good manager in regards to meeting to time and the likes.

Although I won't disregard the fact that some might do this just to gain the manager attention...

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 01:56:55 PM

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

Managers with a proven track record of integrity on the forum can be trusted beyond just campaign management. Holding large funds and delivering reliable services is akin to acting as a reputable escrow, prioritizing their client satisfaction along the way.

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This is something I have thought about many times as I have participated in many campaigns over time and have not, so far, left positive feedback to any manager.

Should we give them positive feedback for doing their job?

When I see the many positive feedbacks that different managers have on their profiles, I think that the most optimal ones are those that refer to something other than simply doing the job they have to do, such as having taken money out of their own pocket when they had not yet received the funds from the company, or relocating participants to other campaigns when a campaign is over.

I don't want this to be understood as a criticism of those who do leave positive feedback simply because they have been involved in the ‘xxx’ campaign for a long time or in various ‘xxxx’ manager campaigns, because after all it is logical that if someone manages campaigns that over time add up to a lot of bitcoins dealt with, this will be reflected in their profile. That's why I put ‘just’ in quotation marks because if at the end of the year they have handled a lot of bitcoins that is an clear indication of their trustworthiness.

But I simply wonder if it is not more optimal to leave a positive feedback if there is a reason other than that.

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