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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

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Bitcoin could be in a trading range of $3000 to $4000 or possibly something like $3500 to $4500 but it's hard to predict. I think we are in some range where the price is going to fluctuate for a while until all of the weak traders and investors are shaken out. There is also the negative news from China that leaves people unsure of what to expect going forward.

The bottom line is that it may take several months before Bitcoin begins another steady and sustained increase. It may not get back to $5000 for six months to a year. We just don't know how everything will play out yet. I'm just going to HODL and ride it out for the long term.

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Quote from: lobo13hf on September 25, 2017, 08:37:05 AM

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

What do you mean by real value? There isn't one single value to limit Bitcoin. There is continued addition of value in Bitcoin over time. This increment is from increased trust of investors, increased adoption, real utility and worldwide adoption.
So I think $4000 isn't at all the Bitcoin limit, there is much to go. Wink

The price of bitcoin or can be called value are indeed depends to all those factor above you mentioned but I doubt that it'll grow fastly as expected. i see that bitcoin is now just stucking itself, it's because the unstability of value due to chinese regulation bringing newcomer doubts to whether invest to bitcoin or not. I can say that the trust of investors is now currently at its downfall.

At this month end ,the price of bitcoin will reach the value of 4000$.So you can see this.The price of bitcoin is keeps on increasing,Now it's around 3840$.Now the price is keeps on increasing, so you can see this much rise.It's the best time to inverse in bitcoin.Soon you will get huge profit.

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Quote from: lobo13hf on September 25, 2017, 08:37:05 AM

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

What do you mean by real value? There isn't one single value to limit Bitcoin. There is continued addition of value in Bitcoin over time. This increment is from increased trust of investors, increased adoption, real utility and worldwide adoption.
So I think $4000 isn't at all the Bitcoin limit, there is much to go. Wink

The price of bitcoin or can be called value are indeed depends to all those factor above you mentioned but I doubt that it'll grow fastly as expected. i see that bitcoin is now just stucking itself, it's because the unstability of value due to chinese regulation bringing newcomer doubts to whether invest to bitcoin or not. I can say that the trust of investors is now currently at its downfall.

I agree to what is your opinion but I think there are big players or whales that wants to manipulate the price of bitcoin by simply telling fake news or FUD in the Forum or social media and sometimes news to simply cause fear and uproar to the hearts of users, I think it can bring up the so called selling out of fear, but right now on one of your explanation that the value will surely will take a slow pace in rising I think there are a resistance to this.

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Quote from: webtricks on September 11, 2017, 12:35:59 PM

Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

What do you mean by real value? There isn't one single value to limit Bitcoin. There is continued addition of value in Bitcoin over time. This increment is from increased trust of investors, increased adoption, real utility and worldwide adoption.
So I think $4000 isn't at all the Bitcoin limit, there is much to go. Wink

The price of bitcoin or can be called value are indeed depends to all those factor above you mentioned but I doubt that it'll grow fastly as expected. i see that bitcoin is now just stucking itself, it's because the unstability of value due to chinese regulation bringing newcomer doubts to whether invest to bitcoin or not. I can say that the trust of investors is now currently at its downfall.

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Quote from: ajmapalo22 on September 25, 2017, 02:27:16 AM

Up to this moment the exact value of bitcoin cannot be estimate, there are saying that it was under price but no specific price was mention for it. Only the status of demand in bitcoin can give the price of it for today its when the demand goes up, the value also appreciate and when it goes down the other way happen. That's the bitcoin nature its unpredictable but worth investing and keeping.

For getting demand we need more adoption on blockchain tech and bitcoin. As satoshi speculates bitcoin value will be climb around 10k USD with in 2030. This year especially bitcoin value is rushing around the 4500$ and even more but now settled around 3.7k this month.

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Quote from: n0ne on September 25, 2017, 01:48:11 AM

Nothing looks like a fake market for the digital currency growth. In the past, exchanges were making a big marginal difference in the real price with a fake market capital. This was made perfect due to the intervention of PBOC into all the exchange policy. After this incident the price seems to be the right one without much faking.

On China's exchanges bitcoins have always cost more than on the stock exchanges of other countries. If they are all closed, nothing will happen. There are many other exchanges. China will lose income and nothing else happens. The price drop in bitcoin is due to the successful actions of the speculators. China has nothing to do with it.

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Up to this moment the exact value of bitcoin cannot be estimate, there are saying that it was under price but no specific price was mention for it. Only the status of demand in bitcoin can give the price of it for today its when the demand goes up, the value also appreciate and when it goes down the other way happen. That's the bitcoin nature its unpredictable but worth investing and keeping.

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Nothing looks like a fake market for the digital currency growth. In the past, exchanges were making a big marginal difference in the real price with a fake market capital. This was made perfect due to the intervention of PBOC into all the exchange policy. After this incident the price seems to be the right one without much faking.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on September 14, 2017, 07:25:19 AM

To those people saying bitcoin has no value you're all stupid. It takes hundreds or thousand of dollars just to mine a single bitcoin. How about miners and their electricity fees? Bitcoin has proof of work so in conclusion it has great value just like gold.

Bitcoin through the years is become stronger. Even its challenges to downtrend it will eventually up the price. It has been prove its value like other investment. But we couldnt predict the value in the future.

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i just mean when ask real value for you

if you can control price of bitcoin which price you think is real for it

for me 2000$ is good price

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To those people saying bitcoin has no value you're all stupid. It takes hundreds or thousand of dollars just to mine a single bitcoin. How about miners and their electricity fees? Bitcoin has proof of work so in conclusion it has great value just like gold.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

Real value of bitcoin is decided by the demand of it, so when there would be more demand the price would increase and same happens vice versa, it is strategically designed that fewer and fewer coins will be made each year following other, so even if the demand will be the same the rate of increase in supply decreases which will automatically rise the price per coin.

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Quote from: bitcoinisbest on September 12, 2017, 12:22:01 AM

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Quote from: Youghoor on September 11, 2017, 01:18:59 PM

The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher.
The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.

i know it is depend on demand but i ask for real value of you ?

what price you will set for bitcoin

Considering the present economy and the world market how they are reacting to bitcoin at present I would set a target of 5k which was there a month ago almost but after China intervention on ICO and exchange market have tumbled. For year end if there is no bad news i think should be near 5.5 - 6k mark.

The price of Bitcoin can reaches to your target if China do not continue have strong moves in crypto market. If China really do not want crypto market affected their economy, I believe in next time, they will have more rules and even banned crypto market, not only ICO.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 11:56:25 PM

Quote from: Youghoor on September 11, 2017, 01:18:59 PM

The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher.
The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.

i know it is depend on demand but i ask for real value of you ?

what price you will set for bitcoin

Nah it also depends on the the supply in the market. Supply and demand is like a tag team, when the supply becomes limited and there's a high demand so the value will go up. This are happening now in bitcoin, as we nearly reach the maximun supply of 21 million the value gets higher and higher and also the increasing demand of the users. It's domino effect surely affects the market.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 11:56:25 PM

Quote from: Youghoor on September 11, 2017, 01:18:59 PM

The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher.
The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.

i know it is depend on demand but i ask for real value of you ?

what price you will set for bitcoin

Considering the present economy and the world market how they are reacting to bitcoin at present I would set a target of 5k which was there a month ago almost but after China intervention on ICO and exchange market have tumbled. For year end if there is no bad news i think should be near 5.5 - 6k mark.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

Everytime the price of bitcoin decrease, that is never below $4,000. So i think the real value of minimum price of bitcoin is $4,000 or even more. It's actually depend on the situation and bad/good news on bitcoin though. What i think is, when the bitcoin price fall to $4,000, go buy bitcoins and enjoy the profit when the price back to $4,200-$4,500.

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Quote from: Youghoor on September 11, 2017, 01:18:59 PM

The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher.
The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.

i know it is depend on demand but i ask for real value of you ?

what price you will set for bitcoin

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The real value of bitcoin is determined by the supply and demand.. If people keeps buying, then the price will be high, just like it happen with anything that you buy daily.. Like smartphones, do you think that their bussiness want their price to be $1000 each one? No, that is because people is still buying them at that price, and they can afford to make the price higher.
The same happens with cryptos, that is why it is always going up, because the demand.

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Quote from: webtricks on September 11, 2017, 12:35:59 PM

Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

What do you mean by real value? There isn't one single value to limit Bitcoin. There is continued addition of value in Bitcoin over time. This increment is from increased trust of investors, increased adoption, real utility and worldwide adoption.
So I think $4000 isn't at all the Bitcoin limit, there is much to go. Wink

the cost in Bitcoin laid very much, and this is indicated by a multi-digit number after the decimal point. It is these indicators that can be used for both investment and trade, and not whole Bitcoin. Satoshi is exactly the equivalent that will be strong in everyday life.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

What do you mean by real value? There isn't one single value to limit Bitcoin. There is continued addition of value in Bitcoin over time. This increment is from increased trust of investors, increased adoption, real utility and worldwide adoption.
So I think $4000 isn't at all the Bitcoin limit, there is much to go. Wink

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Quote from: denny27 on September 11, 2017, 03:40:55 AM

I think the current bitcoin price movement shows it will not be far from between $ 4000- $ 4500. well it can be said the value of the currently seen bitcoin is $4000. But i'm sure it will not be long for bitcoin prices will be rising back above the $4000 figure. This moment can be said its time to buy i guess.

but i think that the price of bitcoin is not going to stay here for a long time but will start increasing after some time. i am sure that that the price of bitcoin will cross 5000$ very soon and even after that will continue increasing, because bitcoin price has good potential and therefore people are holding their bitcoin and not going to sell it, and therefore i myself trying to hold my bitcoin for a long time and not sell it so early, i have to wait for a long time.

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the real value of bitcoin changes every day depending on how useful it is to how many people

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

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I think it is more then $1000. At least I hope so. Could be eventually less, but i think not. Max is around a million. It has max but this max value will change in next 100 years since value of the measure, that is USD, changes greatly.

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For me bitcoin has no real value cuase every time bitcoin value changed or every minutes .We can say real value if bitcoin suddenly stop in 4000$ in long term i think . Grin

And also i think bitcoin will reach more than 4000$. Cuase the others talking about their prediction it will be 5k or up in this months .so there's a possibilty that bitcoin will reach the higher value more than our thought. even its crashing sometimes because of what happened in the past day..but its still recovering nowadays .

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To be honest, there is really a lot of factor to determine the true value of bitcoins. Which includes the true number of users, number of stores accepting it right now, future adoption of bitcoins, and threats to it. I guess it is really hard to evaluate the price. However, looking at the potential of bitcoins, I think $4,000 is still cheap for its valuation.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

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If you will investigate that what is the exact value of the bitcoin is then you will surely make yourself with lost of time with this research because all things depends upon the demand in the virtual market of cryptocurrency .
Here if you can visit at any exchange then you will found that the buy and sell orders that means if you want sell sudden then you can but with less price because you want to sell at sudden and vice versa .
Here i can explain you about the price with another example , suppose you sell 1 btc at price 3000$ then whatever the value of 1 btc currently , but for that moment of selling the price of the btc at that exchange will be equal to 3000$ .
And if you will bought bitcoin at very high rate then at that time the buy rate will be high at that moment , whatever will be the present time price but for that moment price will be according to your most highest rate at which you bought .

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Quote from: ChainSmoker on September 11, 2017, 08:12:00 AM

IMO bitcoin value right now is highly undervalued.It will rise much more when adoption increases.Most people don't understand working of cryptos and science behind it or are too afraid to learn about it still we are sitting upwards of 4K.Once they do,they will come buying it at whatever price they can. Cheesy

sure thing bitcoin value will still goes up, we are just experiencing, there are many users that are selling out from their fear, but eventually the value of bitcoin will return in rising, that is what I think right now but the possibility of when it can reach the $5000 mark value, speculation that we can see it before the end of this month.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

We don't know on how much did bitcoin can hit, but I know that bitcoin can also hit $5000, because bitcoin actually hit it the last week, and I guess it will going to happen again, it is not impossible to happen again, bitcoin I think has a bright future.

Bitcoins price didnt actually hit that $5000 price range but it do somehow managed to reach out 4967 as far as i remember which its new ATH and I do believe that we would hit up that price soon and even breaking that 5k usd resistance level.I agree on what you have said we wont really know on how much could bitcoin price would rise up in the future or whats ahead because no man can predict the future.For now the best thing to do is dont miss the opportunity on buying cheaper bitcoins.

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IMO bitcoin value right now is highly undervalued.It will rise much more when adoption increases.Most people don't understand working of cryptos and science behind it or are too afraid to learn about it still we are sitting upwards of 4K.Once they do,they will come buying it at whatever price they can. Cheesy

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

We don't know on how much did bitcoin can hit, but I know that bitcoin can also hit $5000, because bitcoin actually hit it the last week, and I guess it will going to happen again, it is not impossible to happen again, bitcoin I think has a bright future.

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If you ask about value that cointain in single bitcoin, it depend with how much people trust and will to use bitcoin as money. As same as how much you and your people in your entire country trust and will to use your government US Dollar as payment method (if you live in USA)

From information that I got from High School, 1 USD was made from paper+ink that cost 1 USD. From time to time Value of 1 USD is always same with that Paper+ink cost in constant movement. You may start a research to know 'the Cost to making a algorithm of cryptograph called bitcoin'

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

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There is no set amount as to the final value of bitcoin (well, except its cap amount but no-one really matters about that - at least not for now)

Bitcoin's price will rise and fall as it is used by the community. It is built on a network of user trust and its value will ultimately be determined by its supply and demand and trade volume (basically demand).
Other factors will be current cryptomarket related news such as the recent Chinese ICO ban, which saw bitcoin's price drop a little.

Still, investing in bitcoin is very safe and I would recommend it to anyone. We should see bitcoin's price soar well above the $5000 USD mark by the end of the year.

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I think the current bitcoin price movement shows it will not be far from between $ 4000- $ 4500. well it can be said the value of the currently seen bitcoin is $4000. But i'm sure it will not be long for bitcoin prices will be rising back above the $4000 figure. This moment can be said its time to buy i guess.

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The real value of bitcoin is always equal to what you see and there is no prediction or any related things like that because the value of bitcoin is only valued by the demand of the people and if the demand of the people will go up more and higher then it will result for the value of bitcoin to become more expensive and even more than 5,000 USD.

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Quote from: Daniel 777 on September 11, 2017, 01:31:28 AM

is this is 4000$ rang or more

what you think?

The only value is the market value. If the market makes it $4K, then this is the value. If it makes it $2K, then this is the value.

What do we think is opinion, and mine is that Bitcoin will fall a little to $3K, stabilize and then go up to $5-$7K in 6 month, upon successful Segwit2x activation.

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Bitcoin is money, and its value should depend on how many people want to use Bitcoin as money. That is.... if there are 21 million people wanting to move or store 1000 dollars each using bitcoin, Bitcoin should have a value of 1000$ (as there are 21 million bitcoins too).

Of course different people want to use different amounts. But Bitcoin, in my view, should have the vale of the money it represents. It is like a vehicle that gets the value of the money it carries.

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I have similar thoughts as well. I think it may break down under the 4k range to the 3400-3600 range. I dont think it goes lower than 3k though, and then I think after that we

go back up and retest ATH. The value is determined by the participants in the market. I do know one thing for fact and that is 1800 bitcoins a day while new users coming in is in

the 000s to 0000s everyday. Based off simple math and supply and demand properties you can see that bitcoin should increase in value over time. Just my two cents on the matter

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I think for the time being bitcoin prices will drop below $ 4000, and that is a good opportunity for people who want to invest in bitcoin, and for those who want to sell this bitcoin is not too bad, I think for a while I prefer if the price bitcoin downstairs just so i can to invest more in bitcoin, i guess that's just my thinking, thanks

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