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Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:03:30 AM

If you're a topic starter or topic creator, there's no way to delete it but you can be able to edit, move your topic to Archival (the trashcan section)

Is there any advantage to moving an obsolete thread to Archival as opposed to simply deleting the posts and then locking it?

I never tried either. Cheesy

I've searched your name on Archival it seems you're right, you never move your topic starter there.
IMO, Archival is considered as a trashcan board which is no one will visit there if you have a thread that you've started and delete the body, maybe it will take a long time before it will disappear or go into deep depths. The advantage could be, we help to lessen the task of moderators deleting that thread that we started, maybe it will take a long time they will delete the thread even if we already deleted and reported, moving to the trashcan board would be good, IMO.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:03:30 AM

If you're a topic starter or topic creator, there's no way to delete it but you can be able to edit, move your topic to Archival (the trashcan section)

Is there any advantage to moving an obsolete thread to Archival as opposed to simply deleting the posts and then locking it? I assume the thread would either disappear into the deep depths of whatever section it was in, or the mods would delete it eventually.

Thanks for bringing up the move to Archival, by the way. I've deleted my own posts from threads I've started and then locked it up, but I never considered your suggestion before. In fact, I've been here 7 years and I don't think I've ever manually moved a thread to another section before, even though there have been times I probably should have. Neat-O.

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Quote from: DVlog on March 20, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

So how someone can remove or delete a topic that he started if he thinks it's irrelevant or unnecessary right now? I think there must be some procedure to do that because there are many topics in the service and marketplace board which is created for short time. Or just leave it by thinking it's not there.

You can try asking moderators to delete your topic but it's not likely they will have the time or the will to deal with that.
Best thing you could do is locking the topic and moving it to archive section of the forum, and deleting all your post from that topic.
All this can be done for privacy reasons, but note that everything in forum is archived and saved all the time, so it's not easy to hide something you once wrote.

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Quote from: Igebotz on March 21, 2022, 06:34:09 AM

If posters had the ability to delete threads, most of the historical threads we refer to today, such as the Pizza, Bitcoin and Me and most Bitcoin posts, would have been deleted by the poster prior to leaving the forum. Leaving us with no history

Yeah, I realized that later too. Now I see why it's better that the privilege to delete threads isn't granted to thread openers, except moderators. It saves the forum lots of educational and historical posts and threads that ordinarily would be lost by that action. I acknowledge that sometimes the urge to do away with threads one feels aren't worthy anymore or shitty may come up but like LoyceV said it's best to move them to the archive.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 12:58:52 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on February 12, 2022, 11:40:01 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

I wonder why it's so.

Deleting a thread would mean you get to delete someone else's posts.

But of course, I know. It's the same way when mods take down threads they (by their judgment) think it's unnecessary or that infringed on certain rules. If mods can do that, why can't thread starters themselves? That's the area of my puzzlement.

Because Mods ensure that the threads reported for deletion have no informative posts or a large number of posters on them before deleting them, they don't delete a thread just because you reported it to be deleted; if they find some useful information on the thread, they usually move it to archive or lock it. If the same privilege is granted to every threads starter, it will be abused.

If posters had the ability to delete threads, most of the historical threads we refer to today, such as the Pizza, Bitcoin and Me and most Bitcoin posts, would have been deleted by the poster prior to leaving the forum. Leaving us with no history

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I think @LoyceV has answered the Op question completely.
I hope the Op can understand the whole explanation from @LoyceV above my writing. Op, what you are looking for you have founded. Immediately lock this thread to prevent a discussion that strays from the topic.

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Quote from: DVlog on March 20, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

So how someone can remove or delete a topic that he started if he thinks it's irrelevant or unnecessary right now?

You can't. It's not up to you to decide your topic is irrelevant to someone else, that would for instance make it easier for scammers to cover their tracks.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on March 21, 2022, 02:00:41 AM

If you initially create a self-moderated topic, then you can delete it later.

Nope, you can't. I just tested it.

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Quote from: DVlog on March 20, 2022, 08:41:35 PM

So how someone can remove or delete a topic that he started if he thinks it's irrelevant or unnecessary right now? I think there must be some procedure to do that because there are many topics in the service and marketplace board which is created for short time. Or just leave it by thinking it's not there.

If you initially create a self-moderated topic, then you can delete it later. And also delete all messages that remain on the topic. I'm not sure if it works like that. But I read complaints from users who are not happy that their answers in self-moderated topics were deleted.
But as far as your messages are concerned, you are the master in your account. When I came to the forum and became interested in bounty companies, I made a bunch of unnecessary reports. But later, realizing that this was a useless exercise, I completely deleted a bunch of my reports. This is what I advise everyone who understands that the reports only interfere with the forum.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 12, 2022, 11:40:01 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 12, 2022, 08:43:11 AM

You can delete the post but not the thread. You wouldn't be able to delete the first post of your thread either, just edit it.

I wonder why it's so.

Deleting a thread would mean you get to delete someone else's posts.

So how someone can remove or delete a topic that he started if he thinks it's irrelevant or unnecessary right now? I think there must be some procedure to do that because there are many topics in the service and marketplace board which is created for short time. Or just leave it by thinking it's not there.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

I wonder why it's so. Sometimes one feels the need to delete a thread one started completely because of lack of interest in further discussion on the topic or one finds out that the issue raised in the OP isn't worth it any more and it becomes shameful that one even had such a thread to one's name. I know one can lock up the thread but what about in a situation where one isn't even proud that such a topic was started by one and needed not to be reminded of it again? For instance, if I lock up a thread I will still stumble onto it once in a while. But if I delete that thread that will be gone forever from my post history.

might be embarrassing for some but they would just have to suck it up. allowing everyone to be able to delete their thread because they feel embarrassed about it could also mean deleting some educational and informative posts in that thread. I guess it is one of the reason why theymos didn't make this feature available to everyone.

anyway, you can also manually move the thread to archival after locking it if you don't want to see it on the board you usually spend your time.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

I wonder why it's so. Sometimes one feels the need to delete a thread one started completely because of lack of interest in further discussion on the topic or one finds out that the issue raised in the OP isn't worth it any more and it becomes shameful that one even had such a thread to one's name. I know one can lock up the thread but what about in a situation where one isn't even proud that such a topic was started by one and needed not to be reminded of it again? For instance, if I lock up a thread I will still stumble onto it once in a while. But if I delete that thread that will be gone forever from my post history.

Only moderators can delete a thread even if it doesn't have anyone else's post on it. You have the option to report the thread you want to remove to a moderator just as you would report a spam post, if the moderator finds a clear reason then there is a chance your thread will be deleted. That's the only solution, or forget about that thread.

I once tried deleting a thread I created seconds after posting it as an experiment, it never worked. But it is possible to be removed if you report it to a moderator.

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 12:58:52 PM

If mods can do that, why can't thread starters themselves? That's the area of my puzzlement.

I've asked that question before, but I don't know maybe it's part of the moderation of this forum for a long time that only moderators can do.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 12, 2022, 11:40:01 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

I wonder why it's so.

Deleting a thread would mean you get to delete someone else's posts.

But of course, I know. It's the same way when mods take down threads they (by their judgment) think it's unnecessary or that infringed on certain rules. If mods can do that, why can't thread starters themselves? That's the area of my puzzlement.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on February 12, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 12, 2022, 08:43:11 AM

You can delete the post but not the thread. You wouldn't be able to delete the first post of your thread either, just edit it.

I wonder why it's so.

Deleting a thread would mean you get to delete someone else's posts.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on February 12, 2022, 08:43:11 AM

You can delete the post but not the thread. You wouldn't be able to delete the first post of your thread either, just edit it.

I wonder why it's so. Sometimes one feels the need to delete a thread one started completely because of lack of interest in further discussion on the topic or one finds out that the issue raised in the OP isn't worth it any more and it becomes shameful that one even had such a thread to one's name. I know one can lock up the thread but what about in a situation where one isn't even proud that such a topic was started by one and needed not to be reminded of it again? For instance, if I lock up a thread I will still stumble onto it once in a while. But if I delete that thread that will be gone forever from my post history.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:35:54 AM

There are 374 posts made per post deleted and I thought it was me, will you please enlighten this matter?

This means that the number of posts that you create is divided by the number of posts that are deleted and you will get the average value like this (5236 :14 = 374). It can also be said the number of posts created per deleted post assuming you get 1 post deletion for every 374 posts you make. That is the average value and will change as the number of posts deleted by moderators increases.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:35:54 AM

There are 374 posts made per post deleted and I thought it was me, will you please enlighten this matter?

You have 5237 posts. BPIP registered 14 posts as deleted (in modlog). 5237/14 means you have 374 times more posts than deleted posts, which means you're not such a terrible rulebreaker Tongue

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 12, 2022, 09:06:55 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:03:30 AM

every deleted post that you have, is recorded to Bpip.org which is found under your profile how many posts have been deleted by ~~you and~~ the mods.

Fixed that for you

Oh, thank you.

There are 374 posts made per post deleted and I thought it was me, will you please enlighten this matter? That's why I thought you will see the post that was deleted by you and the mods.

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Quote from: sheenshane on February 12, 2022, 09:03:30 AM

every deleted post that you have, is recorded to Bpip.org which is found under your profile how many posts have been deleted by ~~you and~~ the mods.

Fixed that for you

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Additional to what @hilariousandco said above.

If you're a topic starter or topic creator, there's no way to delete it but you can be able to edit, move your topic to Archival (the trashcan section) or move in the appropriate boards and I think much better if you lock your topic if you see that it's has been answered or you think that it's irrelevant. Just drag down and you will find the "lock topic" button.

Regarding your post, quote, or reply on the topic, you're free to delete it, edit it if there's a mistake that you've noticed. But every deleted post that you have, is recorded to Bpip.org which is found under your profile how many posts have been deleted by you and the mods.

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Quote from: DVlog on February 12, 2022, 06:52:39 AM

Is it forbidden to delete my own post if I think that my post is not fully relevant to the topic or low on quality or found out my judgment is wrong about that certain topic? Do only moderators have the right to remove or delete posts from a topic?

Not really. But you cant delete your own created topic. But for posting on others thread, yes you are free to do that. Sometime it got deleted by mods action cause some reported it and found it not appropriate or spam.

Ive also deleted some of my post especially the link post from bounty campaign before and only retain helpful ones.

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You can delete the post but not the thread. You wouldn't be able to delete the first post of your thread either, just edit it.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 12, 2022, 07:39:06 AM

That's incorrect: Archival doesn't allow you to delete posts.

True, the archive board does not allow users to delete posts and even the delete post button is no longer available when a post in a locked thread is moved to the archive board.

Quote from: DVlog on February 12, 2022, 06:52:39 AM

Do only moderators have the right to remove or delete posts from a topic?

Not only mod, but Topic starters on self-moderated thread can delete your post if they find you posted something unrelated to the topic. Also, you can only delete posts on certain boards after 24 hours (service board, bounty board) but you really can't delete thread if you ever created them.

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Quote from: DVlog on February 12, 2022, 06:52:39 AM

Is it forbidden to delete my own post if I think that my post is not fully relevant to the topic or low on quality or found out my judgment is wrong about that certain topic?

No, it's not forbidden. In fact, I would encourage it!
Or, in the case of wrong information, you might want to edit it to correct it instead of deleting it.
Example:

Quote from: tranthidung on February 12, 2022, 06:59:54 AM

All boards allow posters to delete their own posts

That's incorrect: Archival doesn't allow you to delete posts.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on February 12, 2022, 06:56:25 AM

You are free to delete your post anytime from anywhere on the forum (some boards don't allow you to delete though).

All boards allow posters to delete their own posts but in some boards, it's up to 24 hours to be allowed to do this.

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I have done this before. When I see my post not relevant or especially misleading, I will delete it. But sometimes I will edit it, referencing the correct post in a quote. Sometimes, I can strike out the misleading part of the post. So, it depends.

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You are free to delete your post anytime from anywhere on the forum (some boards don't allow you to delete though). That's up to you whether you will delete or not. By any chance, are you referring "self moderation thread?" That would be okay too.
For your info, there's some unofficial scraper who scrape your post all the time. Loyce.club and ninjastic.space do this current to my known.

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Is it forbidden to delete my own post if I think that my post is not fully relevant to the topic or low on quality or found out my judgment is wrong about that certain topic? Do only moderators have the right to remove or delete posts from a topic?

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