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My issue is not necessarily with the OP sending spam PMs with referral links. My issue is with the OP promising to pay someone 1 LTC in exchange for signing up via his referral link, the victim accepting the offer by signing up via the OP's referral link, and the OP not following through on his promise.
If op kept his/her words regarding the 1ltc commission then the case would not arise. So, the first part and important part is that so-called 1LTC. And then arose the second part about unsolicited pm. If unsolicited pm would be the first part then the account of the OP would be banned.
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If the OP makes his victim whole, he should have his trust issues resolved. Although as I mentioned, I think the chances are high that this person engaged in similar behavior in the past.

You are not allowed to spam referral links in forum posts. Sending a ref link in a PM is acceptable, as long as you are not sending an unsolicited PM.

In this case, OP sends the affiliates link via PM. I hope OP will clarify if that guy was agreed before he send the PM.

If someone receives an unsolicited commercial PM, they should report the PM. If the OP has a single infraction of sending unsolicited spam PMs, they will likely receive a warning from a mod without a ban, or at worst a temp ban lasting a few days.

For the record, the feedback I left wasn't simply because of a single unsolicited pm with aff link.  It was the pm plus behavior in the thread I mentioned: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/badger-a-super-mod-of-casino-and-bitvestio-scammed-me-100-ltc-5382115
My issue is not necessarily with the OP sending spam PMs with referral links. My issue is with the OP promising to pay someone 1 LTC in exchange for signing up via his referral link, the victim accepting the offer by signing up via the OP's referral link, and the OP not following through on his promise.

The referral spam is certainly annoying, but is not something I would agree that negative trust is warranted for. It is the OP not honoring his promise that I believe makes the negative trust appropriate.
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If the OP makes his victim whole, he should have his trust issues resolved. Although as I mentioned, I think the chances are high that this person engaged in similar behavior in the past.

You are not allowed to spam referral links in forum posts. Sending a ref link in a PM is acceptable, as long as you are not sending an unsolicited PM.

In this case, OP sends the affiliates link via PM. I hope OP will clarify if that guy was agreed before he send the PM.

If someone receives an unsolicited commercial PM, they should report the PM. If the OP has a single infraction of sending unsolicited spam PMs, they will likely receive a warning from a mod without a ban, or at worst a temp ban lasting a few days.

For the record, the feedback I left wasn't simply because of a single unsolicited pm with aff link.  It was the pm plus behavior in the thread I mentioned: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/badger-a-super-mod-of-casino-and-bitvestio-scammed-me-100-ltc-5382115
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Well, I have a question. OP didn't send him the promised amount of 1 LTC. And the guy exposed him and the OP was tagged. What if OP sends him 1 LTC? The rules will be changed? Since referral code (ref link) is not allowed. How these rules exactly works? How you will catch someone if the receiver doesn't expose him? Hope someone will help me understand.
Regarding 1LTC if OP give the required LTC then the negative tag/tags should be removed. Regarding referral link I don't think we should tag. If we see referral link either on private message or on forum public post we should make a report and the post/message will be deleted and there is a highly chance that the account will be banned.
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If the OP makes his victim whole, he should have his trust issues resolved. Although as I mentioned, I think the chances are high that this person engaged in similar behavior in the past.

You are not allowed to spam referral links in forum posts. Sending a ref link in a PM is acceptable, as long as you are not sending an unsolicited PM.

In this case, OP sends the affiliates link via PM. I hope OP will clarify if that guy was agreed before he send the PM.

If someone receives an unsolicited commercial PM, they should report the PM. If the OP has a single infraction of sending unsolicited spam PMs, they will likely receive a warning from a mod without a ban, or at worst a temp ban lasting a few days.
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If the OP makes his victim whole, he should have his trust issues resolved. Although as I mentioned, I think the chances are high that this person engaged in similar behavior in the past.

You are not allowed to spam referral links in forum posts. Sending a ref link in a PM is acceptable, as long as you are not sending an unsolicited PM.

In this case, OP sends the affiliates link via PM. I hope OP will clarify if that guy was agreed before he send the PM.

I believe it is okay to send a referral link if it is in agreement with the other party; the rules only apply to unsolicited PMs. For example, sending PMs to a large number of recipients you have not communicated with before is an absolute no-no.

Thanks for the Clarification. I don't know if OP has sent a PM to a large number of recipients that he has not communicated before. If he did that, He deserves the Tag.

It is al longer known that many DT members are abusing their DT status, and operating with many of their alt accounts.
The big question I also have how on earth it is possible and allowed why accounts who are working for sportsbet.io doe have a DT status? That is unfair and unethical, but sportsbet.io is pumping a lot of money into the forum.

Do you even understand what he has said? And Why OP was Tagged? Your post doesn't make any sense. You should read all the posts before commenting like that. I don't think he abusing the DT Status. I don't think He works with Sportsbet's. He wears Sportsbet's Signature doesn't mean he works for them. If so, I can say you work for Most Known and hated Scam Casino 1xBit and you help them to scam people.
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It is al longer known that many DT members are abusing their DT status, and operating with many of their alt accounts.
The big question I also have how on earth it is possible and allowed why accounts who are working for sportsbet.io doe have a DT status? That is unfair and unethical, but sportsbet.io is pumping a lot of money into the forum.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware of it. It will help me in the future. But, What if someone asks me to send a link via PM? Can I send it if someone asks to? In this case, I guess that guy was agreed to sign up via OP's link and then he send the PM. I am not sure. Hope OP will clarify this.

I believe it is okay to send a referral link if it is in agreement with the other party; the rules only apply to unsolicited PMs. For example, sending PMs to a large number of recipients you have not communicated with before is an absolute no-no.
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It appears you promised to pay someone 1 LTC to create an account at a casino via your affiliate link, and did not pay when they did. Resolve that issue and you will resolve your trust issue.
OP should give that 1 ltc to the person whom op promised that OP will  give 1 ltc. Though I do not think op will give that1 ltc. as 1 ltc is more valuable than the account of the op. At the same time OP should stop to send this type of unsolicited message as referral link does not allow by the forum.
Well, I have a question. OP didn't send him the promised amount of 1 LTC. And the guy exposed him and the OP was tagged. What if OP sends him 1 LTC? The rules will be changed? Since referral code (ref link) is not allowed. How these rules exactly works? How you will catch someone if the receiver doesn't expose him? Hope someone will help me understand.
If the OP makes his victim whole, he should have his trust issues resolved. Although as I mentioned, I think the chances are high that this person engaged in similar behavior in the past.

You are not allowed to spam referral links in forum posts. Sending a ref link in a PM is acceptable, as long as you are not sending an unsolicited PM.

My guess is the OP runs some kind of affiliate marketing business. It appears the OP "runs" the website martingalecalculator.com, which is the same as his forum handle, and any negative reputation on this forum would likely negatively affect the above website.
You are right that OP is running affiliate marketing business but op doesn't care either about the profile of the OP or of the website of the OP. I have just checked the website of the OP and it is showing error saying "Missing required parameters: c". And also, showing connection is not secure of the website of the OP.

He's not very good at managing his reputation or his website.
It does appear the OP is in over his head in terms of running a reputable business.
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 About sharing links, I don't know the rules. I Hope you guys will help me understand. I just shared my opinion. I am not supporting the OP.

There are several points in form rules that apply here:

Forum rules

4. No referral code (ref link) spam.
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29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.


Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware of it. It will help me in the future. But, What if someone asks me to send a link via PM? Can I send it if someone asks to? In this case, I guess that guy was agreed to sign up via OP's link and then he send the PM. I am not sure. Hope OP will clarify this.

It appears you promised to pay someone 1 LTC to create an account at a casino via your affiliate link, and did not pay when they did. Resolve that issue and you will resolve your trust issue.
OP should give that 1 ltc to the person whom op promised that OP will  give 1 ltc. Though I do not think op will give that1 ltc. as 1 ltc is more valuable than the account of the op. At the same time OP should stop to send this type of unsolicited message as referral link does not allow by the forum.
Well, I have a question. OP didn't send him the promised amount of 1 LTC. And the guy exposed him and the OP was tagged. What if OP sends him 1 LTC? The rules will be changed? Since referral code (ref link) is not allowed. How these rules exactly works? How you will catch someone if the receiver doesn't expose him? Hope someone will help me understand.
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My guess is the OP runs some kind of affiliate marketing business. It appears the OP "runs" the website martingalecalculator.com, which is the same as his forum handle, and any negative reputation on this forum would likely negatively affect the above website.
You are right that OP is running affiliate marketing business but op doesn't care either about the profile of the OP or of the website of the OP. I have just checked the website of the OP and it is showing error saying "Missing required parameters: c". And also, showing connection is not secure of the website of the OP.

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He's not very good at managing his reputation or his website.

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It appears you promised to pay someone 1 LTC to create an account at a casino via your affiliate link, and did not pay when they did. Resolve that issue and you will resolve your trust issue.
OP should give that 1 ltc to the person whom op promised that OP will  give 1 ltc. Though I do not think op will give that1 ltc. as 1 ltc is more valuable than the account of the op. At the same time OP should stop to send this type of unsolicited message as referral link does not allow by the forum.
My guess is the OP runs some kind of affiliate marketing business. It appears the OP "runs" the website martingalecalculator.com, which is the same as his forum handle, and any negative reputation on this forum would likely negatively affect the above website.

Also, although I don't know for sure, I think there is a high probability the OP has dome similar things in the past to get people to sign up via his affiliate link. I would find it strange if someone running an affiliate marketing business were to offer exactly one person money to sign up via his affiliate link and not pay.
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It appears you promised to pay someone 1 LTC to create an account at a casino via your affiliate link, and did not pay when they did. Resolve that issue and you will resolve your trust issue.
OP should give that 1 ltc to the person whom op promised that OP will  give 1 ltc. Though I do not think op will give that1 ltc. as 1 ltc is more valuable than the account of the op. At the same time OP should stop to send this type of unsolicited message as referral link does not allow by the forum.
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It appears you promised to pay someone 1 LTC to create an account at a casino via your affiliate link, and did not pay when they did. Resolve that issue and you will resolve your trust issue.
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As you have sent several people referral link via pm which should be called unsolicited PM. And for those unsolicited pm if all people create report against you then you might be banned. So, pray to God not to be banned. But for now you deserve these negative trust.
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 About sharing links, I don't know the rules. I Hope you guys will help me understand. I just shared my opinion. I am not supporting the OP.

There are several points in form rules that apply here:

Forum rules

4. No referral code (ref link) spam.
<...>
29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.
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Well, I have a question for the community. Is it forbidden to PM Affiliate link to anyone even it is not shortened or even it's a reputed casino? I guess I can feel the OP's intention. If I am not wrong. He recently found that the bdosusd is a high roller. So, If he can bring him under his affiliate. He could get a nice commission from bdosusd wager.

I have read bdosusd's posts carefully. I would like to quote his posts here:

This dog trying to get me create account on his link but then didn't do what he promised of 1 LTC and now using his personal hate to destroy my post! This one should get warn or banned for sure, kind of rude and low key person
https://ibb.co/hgDrzJ7

https://ibb.co/qYFZt0g
https://ibb.co/30hfRds
https://ibb.co/xYsxm1j

I cannot understand in what world he live to thinking he can do this? He was trying to contact me first to get me sign up on his link to get advantage of a high roller but then he didn't even send me the 1 LTC and told that I was curving him? even trying to make up the story of someone else posts and said it was from me. This dude is a very low key and garbage person

I also checked all the screenshots. Look like they started the fight when the OP asked him to PM from bdosusd alt account to confirm that this is his account. So they had some fight in PM. As You can see from his quoted posts. He didn't complain that the link was Suspicious or Phishing. bdosusd even signed up with the link. So, I guess the link was legit. The main Problem is, OP Refused to send him 1 LTC that he was supposed to Tip bdosusd. That's why bdosusd posted that publicly. I don't know if it can be a Valid reason to tag him. About sharing links, I don't know the rules. I Hope you guys will help me understand. I just shared my opinion. I am not supporting the OP.
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Hi today i was surprised to find in my profile this user TwitchySeal   posted a bad reputation against me
saying to not click any link .... i sent

but the problem is i never sent to this member any message and i did never replied or talked to him in the forum before
plus i don't even post links
But the person who accused you even has proof that you sent him messages, and it's pretty clear you sent him an affiliate link.
How does spotsbet.io even come into this mess?  Roll Eyes

Can you explain this?

This dog trying to get me create account on his link but then didn't do what he promised of 1 LTC and now using his personal hate to destroy my post! This one should get warn or banned for sure, kind of rude and low key person
https://ibb.co/hgDrzJ7


https://ibb.co/qYFZt0g
https://ibb.co/30hfRds
https://ibb.co/xYsxm1j

I cannot understand in what world he live to thinking he can do this? He was trying to contact me first to get me sign up on his link to get advantage of a high roller but then he didn't even send me the 1 LTC and told that I was curving him? even trying to make up the story of someone else posts and said it was from me. This dude is a very low key and garbage person

Or else you are going to receive more negative feedback.
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I left appropriate negative trust for the OP too because of the way he tried to scam a forum member.

The OP is on my ignore list which is the best thing as I have no intention to read any more of his nonsense.



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I had seen the OP in several threads and I could smell it was going to end up like this. Seeing that two people have red tagged him and one of them is on my trust list, I trust that the feedback left by both of them is accurate.

Also, looking at the reference thread, I see that it was when I read him there that I thought it was going to end badly.
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the only clue i find he might have a reason to attack me is he works for Sportsbet.io and maybe i supported a memeber here who have a problem with sportbet.io before thats why he tries to abuse his rank .

i will wait this user TwitchySeal or Sportbet.io to bring a proof of his accusasion against me  untill then i believe he is a spammer and he use his rank to abuse others and maybe thats the way Sportbet.io do to blackmail others who doesnt like them or expose them

So, you accuse Sportsbet just because someone TwitchySeal who wears their signature leaves the negative tag on you? And now you expect from Sportsbet to get involved in your paranoid theory? Are you serious?

Why you do not complain to other two negative tags on your profile before TwitchySeal tag you?


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i never scammed anybody or intended to scam anybody if he have a proof he should present it already sent him a message

isn't this the message?

https://ibb.co/hgDrzJ7
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TwitchySeal    2022-01-23        Do not click any links this guy sends you. Shady affiliate spammer. (Delete)

I think my feedback is pretty valid and I hope nobody clicks any affiliate links in your unsolicited pms.  So no, I won't remove it - at least not now.  Knock off the bullshit and ask me again in 3 months and I'll reconsider.

Here's the thread that inspired me to leave the feedback, if anyone is curious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/badger-a-super-mod-of-casino-and-bitvestio-scammed-me-100-ltc-5382115  
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untill then i believe he is a spammer and he use his rank to abuse others and maybe thats the way Sportbet.io do to blackmail others who doesnt like them or expose them
Looking at your other feedback from last week (both negative and before TwitchySeal left his), it would appear that you tried to pull off some kind of scam yourself--assuming you trust the screenshots that were provided in the reference link that was given.  I don't know who did what in this case, but with respect to the red trust you got from TwitchySeal....there isn't much you can do about that. 

Maybe you can work it out with him in this thread, but I suspect that if members who see this thread look at your trust page they're not likely to give you much support (not that it would do you much good anyway).

What do you have to say about those screenshots of PMs you sent to bdosusd?
i never scammed anybody or intended to scam anybody if he have a proof he should present it already sent him a message
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untill then i believe he is a spammer and he use his rank to abuse others and maybe thats the way Sportbet.io do to blackmail others who doesnt like them or expose them
Looking at your other feedback from last week (both negative and before TwitchySeal left his), it would appear that you tried to pull off some kind of scam yourself--assuming you trust the screenshots that were provided in the reference link that was given.  I don't know who did what in this case, but with respect to the red trust you got from TwitchySeal....there isn't much you can do about that. 

Maybe you can work it out with him in this thread, but I suspect that if members who see this thread look at your trust page they're not likely to give you much support (not that it would do you much good anyway).

What do you have to say about those screenshots of PMs you sent to bdosusd?
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Hi today i was surprised to find in my profile this user TwitchySeal   posted a bad reputation against me
saying to not click any link .... i sent

but the problem is i never sent to this member any message and i did never replied or talked to him in the forum before
plus i don't even post links

the only clue i find he might have a reason to attack me is he works for Sportsbet.io and maybe i supported a memeber here who have a problem with sportbet.io before thats why he tries to abuse his rank .

i will wait this user TwitchySeal or Sportbet.io to bring a proof of his accusasion against me  untill then i believe he is a spammer and he use his rank to abuse others and maybe thats the way Sportbet.io do to blackmail others who doesnt like them or expose them

edit i sent that user a message and sent him the link to bring any proofs i doubt he will find any proof as i never contacted him and i never heard of him untill he posted on my profile anyway he have no excuse to not see this post
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