Topic: Accidentally sent btc to bsv address please help me (Read 1076 times)

I fear this question will never be answered.
Macmacmac0020 hasn't been on the forum for a long time (more than two years) and probably abandoned his account for good.

Follow the instructions given to you by forum members on how to recover your btc from Abra. You can't just conclude until you have reached out to their customer care on Reddit. Their response to your plead will determine your next line of action of recovering your btc from Abra

Did you ever recover said BTC? It looks like the transaction was made to recover it.

I still not yet recover my btc so sad

Hey I found this online :
Source : https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000961172-Bittrex-s-Deposit-Recovery-Policy


=> OK GOOD


=> you mighgt need to pay upfront ??


=> they didn't list BTC to BSV !!
Also, their minimum might be  $5000  because that pair isn't listed 
And finally, they would charge 0.1BTC
Hopefully, you are in the $3000 threshold they just didn't update with the BSV possibilities

The article from their zensupport is 2 years old from  August 04, 2017 09:21  things could have changed

Thanks sir

Don't ask for updates here since no one can help you out since they are not the support of particular platform where you send your funds and better you follow up to the proper support so that you will be help and also ask their opinion about the  situation so that you can get a clear inputs on what is currently going, Follow the advice given and you will be good.

are you sure? you can contact customer service of the exchange if you use the exchange. it difficult case because ussually in the wallet always write that "only send BSV to this address if you send another balance you will lose them" . for the right now you should calling the customer service or make ticket about this issue and i hope can fixed as soon as possible.

Any updates sir?

Yes I have copied the contents of the mail which I received. They are indeed saying the truth and they most probably don't have the private keys associated with your BSV wallet. So bittrex is your only option to recover the funds.

Check this

They are just trying it out and they aren't really sure if the funds are recoverable.

P.S @Macmacmac0020 Please pay attention before sending funds again to addresses and use a open source wallet like Electrum (for PC) and Mycelium (for Mobile) to store your funds in future instead of wallets like Abra, Blockchain.info and other web wallets.

yes... They can. If they want to ask extra questions they can create a free account, if they just want to read these posts they can do so without registering an account.

Oh abra can read this thread sir?

I'd just send them a link to this thread instead... Since Heisenberg_Hunter has actually re-created your problem, they'll even be able to ask additional questions if they want to.

Can i say this message to abra support ?

If it's really problematic, you can always point them towards this thread... It should explain everything that needs to be said:

Abra wallet is using their (bittrex's) api to create new deposit addresses (and probably to process withdrawals aswell).
You used Abra's wallet and created a new BSV deposit address.
You sent BTC to this BSV address
If they (bittrex) import the private key that was used to generate the BSV address into a BTC wallet, they'll be able to give you a partial refund (it would be acceptable if they charged you a couple hundred bucks to pay their engineer to perform these steps).

So, you'll basically need Abra to confirm that the BSV deposit address created with their api was shown to you so you could deposit BSV, then you'll need bittrex's staff to send you your funds back.

To be honest, i have no idear if abra is going to be willing to acknowledge this to bittrex, nor do i know if bittrex would be willing to export private keys from a BSV node and import them into a BTC node. Some exchanges do this for free, others charge a nominal fee, some won't help you at all... It's a roll of the dice, but if i were faced with this situation, at least i'd try to get my funds back.

Thanks to all of u who help me if i recover my fund we will party party hehehe

I guess the solution is halfway through. I just received a mail from Abra support team stating that the BSV wallet is being controlled by Bittrexx and here is a copy of the same.


@mocacinno Here is the further evidence to backup what the Abra team said were right


P.S @Macmacmac0020 ask the Abra Support Team for help and speak with Bittrex as mocacinno said since you have approximately sent $3500. Meanwhile I will just wait for the confirmation from Abra Engineering Team and see to that if it is of some help to you.  

If it's really problematic, you can always point them towards this thread... It should explain everything that needs to be said:

Abra wallet is using their (bittrex's) api to create new deposit addresses (and probably to process withdrawals aswell).
You used Abra's wallet and created a new BSV deposit address.
You sent BTC to this BSV address
If they (bittrex) import the private key that was used to generate the BSV address into a BTC wallet, they'll be able to give you a partial refund (it would be acceptable if they charged you a couple hundred bucks to pay their engineer to perform these steps).

So, you'll basically need Abra to confirm that the BSV deposit address created with their api was shown to you so you could deposit BSV, then you'll need bittrex's staff to send you your funds back.

To be honest, i have no idear if abra is going to be willing to acknowledge this to bittrex, nor do i know if bittrex would be willing to export private keys from a BSV node and import them into a BTC node. Some exchanges do this for free, others charge a nominal fee, some won't help you at all... It's a roll of the dice, but if i were faced with this situation, at least i'd try to get my funds back.

Thaks u sir i try contact the bittrex but my english so bad so hard to communicate

Ah, I get it now...

Abra claims to be a non-custodial wallet (which is unverified), but only for BTC, LTC, BCH and ETH. For other coins they probably use bittrex's api, so for all other altcoins (except BTC, LTC, BCH and ETH), abra is a CUSTODIAL wallet.

IF what they're telling you is the truth, they are right and they cannot help you. However, there are 2 more things you can do:

• Search Abra's TOS/FAQ/... take screenshots if you have to. Try to find out if they were clear upfront that they are only non-custodial for 4 coins, and they keep all other coins on an exchange. If they did not tell you in their FAQ, their TOS, on their website or in their app, you might be able to ask them to repay you, since you were using their product under the false assumption they were non-custodial for all altcoins, so by not telling you that they kept some of your funds on an exchange, it's a little bit their fault that you cannot recover your funds
• Try contacting bittrex TOGETHER with abra's support, explain the situation (you sent BTC to a BSV address, not knowing your BSV private keys were not derived from the xprv generated by the recovery seed from abra, but instead they were generated trough an api with bittrex). Try to convince bittrex support to send you your BTC back. Do realise you'll need abra's support, since the deposit address was most probably generated using abra's api

Hello Mark,

If you sent BTC to your BTC address, they would be in your Abra wallet. If you sent BSV to a BSV address, they would be held by Bittrex but you would be able to see them in your Abra wallet.

However, your funds are sitting on the blockchain and do not reflect in your wallet because you sent BTC to a BSV address, they cannot be recovered and thus have been lost.

Please keep this in mind when sending funds to make sure you are sending funds to the address that coincides with the coin.

We apologize for the confusion, but those funds have been lost.

Best regards,
Ava

Hello Mark,

I have answered your multiple times and explained those funds were not sent to the wallet you gave us information to.

Additionally, as mentioned, only natively supported funds can be swept from an Abra wallet.

As Abra only natively supports BTC, LTC, BCH and ETH these are the only funds you can sweep from a wallet. All altcoins (BSV) are held by Bittrex.

So once again, I do not see those funds were sent to that wallet but if they have been sent to any Abra wallet they are lost. Because you sent BTC to a BSV address they could still not sweep it as the funds are not natively held on it.

We apologize for the confusion, but those funds have been lost.

Best regards,
Ava

they always told me the bsv address in not in my  abra wallet, but im sure its from my abra wallet i send the video to them to proof the bsv address is under my abra wallet

You can't get your private key of your bsv wallet address unless abra will provide you with the custom derivation path and then you'll be able to open your bsv address in other wallet provider then export key. That way you'll get your private keys and recover your btc in your bsv wallet. Try contacting the abra support about their derivation path.

Abra always reply this
   
 (Abra)
Jan 23, 3:04 PM PST

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your patience.

However, your Abra wallet is not an account, it is a wallet. This wallet will generate unique addresses for that specific wallet. Although:  13TGoYW91eMJXUqK2zGLUetm5GdV3 is one of your addresses, that is not the address on the transaction hash you shared before.

We have looked into this issue further and see via the blockchain: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b50133a8ce46c2eb9d65cf82e57be28f803c48666e455527aeae42272877 that you sent funds to this address: 1Na9ZvogrWGWSYAzpWPFS5axKV4z7kQ

The transaction did confirm but this address does not belong to this wallet, which is why you do not see the amount in your wallet.

Additionally, regardless if you sent BTC to a BSV address you would still need to know which wallet you sent it to as you did not send it to this Abra wallet.

If you sent it to another Abra wallet, those funds would be lost as you cannot recover BTC sent to a BSV address.

Best regards,

If they are telling the truth, and they are (in fact) a non-custodial wallet, they cannot steal your funds IF you don't share your seed, master private key, or derived keys.
However, if they are lying (and they're a custodial wallet disguised as a non-custodial wallet) or if they included a backdoor in their software, they can potentially steal from you.

Since it's a closed source application, there is no way to know any of this for sure... IF you get this solved, empty out your abra wallet and switch to a decent one instead (i'd like to recommand either a ledger or trezor hardware wallet...).

Abra can steal my money or no?

Thanks to all of you i will ask the abra to give me the derivation path .

I don't think its possible to extract the exact address after trying out various derivation paths from reddit topics and stack exchange replies. I guess they are changing the unique paths for a set of wallets they handle. I mailed them requesting for the unique custom derivation path to restore my $0.1   We should probably wait until then. If I am able to get back mine, OP should try that derivation path as well. If that didn't work, we should try another way to help OP. Either way, I think the support team won't be helpful since they don't really know how wallets and private keys work.  

Passphrases are accessible through the Abra wallet. Even if we don't have the passphrase, that can be recovered later.

Menu -> Wallet Security -> View recovery phrase -> Show my phrase now

I am literally hesitant to recommend a scam wallet for a scam coin. But still you need the derivation paths to find the exact private key which has your bsv address.

they shouldn't even have access to your private keys to want to give them to you in first place. so if they did, it means you really had no control ever over your coins and what you had was not a wallet but a poor account with the company controlling your money. as a result you should stay away from it.
even if they didn't you should still stay away from any closed source wallets that nobody knows what they are doing under the hood.

you still need to know the derivation path which you don't.

Can use electrumsv?

Well, they can't give you the private key (at least, not without knowing the seed phrase, which you probably shouldn't give them). What they can do is tell you the derivation path... Or even better: give you a step-by-step guide on how to recover their BSV wallet on electrum for BSV.

If they give you a step-by-step guide on how to do this, the rest should be a simple as opening said electrum for BSV wallet, going to the menu "wallet" => "private keys" => "export". Then looking through this export to find the private key whose public key hash is 1Na9ZvogrWGWSYAzpWPFS5axKV4z7kQJTt, copying this private key and using it inside an electrum for BTC wallet.

But yeah, if they don't want to give this info to you, things get rather difficult. They could have chosen any derivation path... But don't get ahead of things, first try if they aren't willing to give you the info you require in order to recover almost $3500 in BTC.

Hmm, perhaps other BSV-compatible wallets might work. Have you tried electrumSV (not sure if this and electrum are inter-related)?


Abra doesn't have access to your private keys. Mainly because users have full control over their wallet.

However if they're an exchange then they have the full access.

@mocacinno: I wonder, if Abra mentioned that recovery phrase = private key then either should suffice. I remembered ADA wallets can just be unlocked from the 12 recovery phrases.

Sir , what if abra didnt want to give my bsv private key?

In simple words: the recovery phrase is used by the wallet to calculate a master private key.
This master private key is used to derive actual private keys. However, this process isn't 1-to-1. 1 Master private key can be used to generate an infinite amount of series of private keys depending on the derivation path.
It's actually a bit more difficult than this, but this is the general idear behind seed phrases, xprv, private keys and derivation paths.

This is why we need to know this derivation path. If you enter the wrong path, a completely "useless" series of private keys will get derived. There are some standards as to which derivation paths to use, but abra already said they use custom derivation paths.

Thank u very much sir

I have recovery phrase sir but cant input to electrum app they need private key i only have recovery phrase i dont know the private key

I've been following this case from the beginning, and (eventough he hasn't explicitly told us), the OP never said he didn't save the seed phrase.

@OP: is it possible to explicitly verify and tell us if you have the 13 word seed phrase written down (don't post the actual 13 words)? If not, the rest of this thread is more or less futile...

@OP: are you 100% sure address 1Na9ZvogrWGWSYAzpWPFS5axKV4z7kQJTt was generated by your abra wallet?
What i would do is the following:

• create a screenshot of your abra wallet, showing this address
• send it to abra support, explicitly telling them that this address was generated by their wallet, but for the wrong coin
• tell them that if they can tell you how to derive the private key for this address (generated for BSV), that you can import this private key into a lot of wallets on the BTC network, and you should be able to spend those unspent outputs funding 1Na9ZvogrWGWSYAzpWPFS5axKV4z7kQJTt
• So basically, in order not to create confusion, ask them how to derive a private key for BSV. Since they claim to be a non-custodial wallet, there should be no reason not to give this information to you...

According to Abra:

You should have written down or recorded the recovery phrase from the very beginning. Without that, your funds are pretty much gone.

Thanks sir but i dont know how to get my bsv private key so sad

Don't be in hurry try to handle this situation calmly and provide your correct address and private key and follow the steps which all the member has mentioned and follow up with their support team to get back your funds.

Exactly. If you have the private key, you can get the access of your BTC easily with Electrum through importing the private key.

Missed that. That's why I was confused because I guess the word at is not seed word I have seen ever on Electrum.

abra wallet support must give the private key of my bsv wallet address?

1Na9ZvogrWGWSYAzpWPFS5axKV4z7kQJTt this is my bsv address u can see have funds

Breathe in and relax, then take your time to read the contents of this thread.

Most of the information are already posted here, it's up to Abra if they will give you an honest answer, hopefully the correct derivation path.
Or wait for @Heisenberg_Hunter's test if he can guess the correct path as he had successfully reproduced your issue.

You can post the address here but not the seed.

where can i send my bsv address pls help me to recover my btc . abra so long time to reply.
i saw in electrum watch only my bsv wallet address have funds i dont know how to get that fund =(

It's either they are lying or the customer support wasn't aware that getting the private key of your BSV address can restore the same address to a Bitcoin client/wallet,
All you need to do is to restore the seed phrase to other BSV wallet and export the address prv keys to a bitcoin wallet.
BTW, either of the two addresses don't have any transaction from the two chains
What's the exact address where you've sent your BTC?

Point these out or quote this (and provide a link to this thread):
Abra claims that their wallet is "non-custodial", then it should possible to restore the address to a different client that supports the backup [13word(-1) BIP39 seed].
You just need to know which "derivaton path" Abra is using for Bitcoin SV to restore your BSV address(es) to other wallets.

If you know the derivation path (something like: m'/0'/0), it's easy.
Too bad, every reddit thread that I've found about this issue ended up with non-recovered funds.

i just type my recovery phrase in iancoleman

iancoleman tool is not designed for searching an address, it is instead designed for the case where you already know your derivation path and the address index so that you can quickly set the variables and get that address.
the wallet you are using (Abra) seems to be closed source since i couldn't find any source code for it so it is not possible to know the derivation paths.

hello how to easy find my wallet in iancoleman so many address  hard to find ty

i find my private key on iancoleman now im in 8000 row hard to find =(

 (Abra)
Jan 22, 11:29 AM PST

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your patience.

However, your Abra wallet is not an account, it is a wallet. This wallet will generate unique addresses for that specific wallet. Although:  13TGoYW91eMJXLUetm5GdV3vYCqz is one of your addresses, that is not the address on the transaction hash you shared before.

We have looked into this issue further and see via the blockchain: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b50133a8ce46c2eb9d65cf82e57be28f803c48667aeae42272877581b that you sent funds to this address: 1Na9ZvogrWGWSYFS5axKV4z7kQJTt

The transaction did confirm but this address does not belong to this wallet, which is why you do not see the amount in your wallet.

Additionally, regardless if you sent BTC to a BSV address you would still need to know which wallet you sent it to as you did not send it to this Abra wallet.

If you sent it to another Abra wallet, those funds would be lost as you cannot recover BTC sent to a BSV address.

Best regards,

Abra told me cannot recover 😥😭

I have been trying to figure this out for over an hour, but still something doesn't seem to be right with the shitty Abra wallet. The foremost problem was with the KYC shits like knowing of names, email addresses and mobile numbers. Got passed through them by giving away fake numbers and stuffs but then as nc50lc pointed out, the custom derivation paths seems to be a major bullshit associated with Abra.

So thought of recreating the exact scenario like OP (sending btc to abra controlled bsv address) and all is that I lost $0.1 worth of btc in the progress  

[1]Started with bypassing all the abra wallet kyc shits (like name and mobile numbers)
[2]Noted down the 12 word passphrase
[3]Sent $0.1 worth of bitcoin to BSV address displayed in the app
[4]Transaction had 1 confirmation in blockchain
[5]Created a new wallet in electrum, entered the seeds and tried out multiple combination of derivation paths (maybe more than 10)
[6]Generated over 20,000 addresses for each derivation paths using iancoleman's BIP39 tool
[6]None of them had a bsv wallet address (out of 200000 addresses) and finally lost the $0.1 worth of BTC

I am not really sure if the support team would respond back with a exact derivation path and another point is that they should never advertise their wallet like a 'non-custodial wallet' provided they have certain control on the wallet in the form of custom derivation paths!

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Helping out in answering some queries to get going with the recovery

Yes, derived twice and checked. They initially had 13 words but the first word is always 'at' which should be removed while entering the seed in Electrum.

They are indeed compatible. Remove the first word 'at' from the 13 word phrase and enter the remaining 12 words

If the support does respond with a custom derivation path, that should be the only way for recovery. But all is that they have a poor customer support which doesn't really know what we speak! Shady, controlling funds with derivation paths, shitty customer support, (I would never recommend OP to store his funds in future with this wallet)

Did you eventually recover the funds?

Hey, just be careful when someone PM you to recover your fund. Don't contact with somebody if not trusted enough. Before dealing with someone please post here if that person trusted or not. Don't be a victim of scam.

Since ABRA non-custodial wallet ( according to their article), just be cool and handle with patience. You fund is recoverable. Just you need to retrieve you private key of BSV address. Just follow steps suggested above by trusted users.

If fund is visible there, then send it to back on your Ledger or any other BTC address which is belongs to you and you have full control.

Ok i wait the abra reply to me maybe they dont want to give my btc because i read in their app if sent btc to other cryptocurrency i lose my money

Then there's a high chance of recovering your funds. It's a legacy address and importing its private key to Electrum wont be troublesome.
Now, contact their support regarding those info above because they said that they have a custom derivation path in order to get that private key from your seed.

Abra wallet's seed phrase isn't compatible with Electrum. I have tried creating a seed and import it into Electrum. Doesn't work.
There's no option to get private key of addresses as well.
I can't see any way of recovering the fund other than contacting with the support.

My abra wallet bsv is starts to 1

If it's really a non-custodial wallet, then there's a way to recover the funds,
Again, does your Abra's BTC address starts with '3'?

To confirm the info from DdmrDdmr's reddit link, ask them (Abra's Customer Support) these:

• The derivation path for your Bitcoin SV [BSV] account.
• If the 13-word seed is BIP39.

Just do not share the seed here, those info are enough to be able to recover your Bitcoins.

Im afraid maybe abra not give my btc

The address is not the wallet, you have just created a "watch-only imported wallet" by putting the Bitcoin address in Electrum.
You won't be able to do anything using that but monitor your funds.

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Does your Abra's BTC address starts with '3'?

P.S: I was going to try the app to check every derivation path but it's asking for too much information including name, email and mobile number to create a supposed "non-custodial wallet".
Just contact their support to give you the best advice.

Already many of them given you enough informations, follow the steps and you can recover your funds. Don't get panic! If you are not able to follow the steps then contact ABRA wallet support, here is the link to contact them - https://support.abra.com/hc/en-us/articles/216665658-How-can-I-contact-you-

I think you should try to contact your BTC address as soon as possible. Not only can they solve your problem, but your personal keys will also need to recover your BTC For this reason, there is always a backup file to keep If your key is secure then you can recover your BTC.

i put the bsv wallet in electrum apps in my android mobile i see that received 400 mbtc how to get that sir?

Can u help me step by step sir i really need help thats big money to me 😩 u have facebook or any easy to talk?

I found this Reddit post with the process allegedly described by Abra customer support:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/87cis7/need_help_sweeping_private_key_from_abra_wallet/

Since it is non-trivial, and the referenced process is suggested but not official, I’d read through it carefully and contact Abra Customer Support to make sure the process is as described in the post (there, the poster relays the info he received from Support, but was unsuccessful at sweeping the private key on either Sentinel or Samurai).

You really need to be careful when pleading for help. Unfortunately, there are people who will try to scam you, so make sure that, if helped, you never ever give them your private keys.

Did you send to an exchange or to another wallet? If you send them to the exchange it is best to contact support at the exchange so they can help you as soon as possible. And if you send to another wallet, you need to have that wallet's private key to be able to retrieve it from the electrum.

I have never used abra, but apparently you should have been shown a recovery phrase when you created your wallet:
https://www.abra.com/blog/abra-recovery-phrase/

Using this recovery phrase, you should be able to use (for example) electrum => restore your wallet from seed => go to the "wallet" menu => private keys => export

Or you can use a tool like this one: https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ (download and run on an offline computer only, reboot when finished)

I have no idear if they extended the seed, or if they use a custom derivation path tough... Probably either ask their support, search their help or resort to trial and error

How to get private key sir? Private key in my abra account?

Then you have a private key for that wallet or recovery seed. Abra is a non-custodial wallet so definitely you get that by the
time you setup your account or on the wallet settings then follow the guide that sent above by Royse777.  

I accidentally sent btc from ledger to bsv wallet from abra wallet  how to recover my btc?

Just want to add Royse had said,

You can read more on reddit and their instructions are more clear.
Recovering BTC sent to BSV address using Electrum

If you sent it in an exchange, then try to reach for their support. Sure, they'll help you out.

If you are sending the BTC to a BSV address owned by exchange then you should immediately contact their support. They are the one who have the authority to access the address and that's the only way.
But, if you own the BSV address and you can get the privatekey or seeds that you saved afterward you can import it to a desktop wallet and access it from there to retrieve your BTC.

I never had BSV crap so really do not know how it works however since this is a fork coin of BCH and BCH is a fork or Bitcoin then technically you can recover it if you restore that BSV wallet using a bitcoin wallet software like Electrum unless you have sent them in any exchange.

Download Electrum: https://electrum.org/#download
Verify it before installing: https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-verify-your-electrum-download/
Install.
Have the private key off the BSV address.
Using this private key restore the wallet address in Electrum
You should have access of the Bitcoin.

Note: I think you got wrong board for this topic. It will better go in Bitcoin Technical Support section.

Accidentally sent btc to bsv address please help me
Please help me to recover my btc please