Topic: Account banned for plagiarism (Read 1669 times)

That fact these people will sweet talk in the start and try to be your friends and will plan to rip you from the very beginning as well.

If you look at my Lending thread;
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/robo-lending-service-fast-simple-way-to-get-loan-2220514

You will see Bitsat and Bitcoinmarshall both asked for a loan around same time.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26029038 (BitcoinMarhsal)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27214057 (Bitsat)
That's another strange relation between those two, isn't it?

Edit: hua_hui was already account farmer, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33132226

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I don't care about the signature as much as I care about my alias.
If it's possible, then I'll gladly accept it and obviously mistake as this one will never occur from my side ever again.

Well, Looking at their status and behavior i think that's actually true, Now i really feel bad for you. Giving your account to someone who pulled serial scams and bans evasions.
In this community, retards like him are the one who is a disgrace to the forum i really wish they give you second chance to be back on the forum.



His command on english is like the other 3 accounts for sure 

One biggest mistake you have made was you were being too good.

Number 1, rule on this forum do not ever allow somebody to post for you it is and will always be a niche for plagiarism.

You have lost .06 and that is huged, you just have posted a thread in scam accusation thread. Now you have lost both. I feel bad for you tho but you should start providing proof

Helpful post but got no smerit.

No, try again

Registration Date

BitSat: 11/6/2016
Bitcoinmarshal: 9/7/2016

Both got banned at the exact same date, Had same posting behavior, Similar meriting behavior, Same english.


This post got merited by Bitcoinmarshall, 2 merits.
Username? : WhyBit

Sadly this user got auto-banned as well, https://bpip.org/search.aspx?q=WhyBit

Taking all this into consideration, http://prntscr.com/lunes4 ( Both merited hua_hui same amount )

I'll leave the rest to your alt hunting instincts @suchmoon

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Coincidentally 3 of them knew a lot about cricket as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46023981
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46075518
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46552806

So LoyceV is possibly certainly your alt? Am I doing this correctly?

User Bitsat possibly alt of BitcoinMarshall

They both merited each other 3 merits  got auto-banned on the same date.
Only BitSat merited bitcoinmarshall 3 merits.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bitcoinmarshal
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=BitSat
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=WhyBit

Uncertain-
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=whybitcoin

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Profile Username: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=hua_hui (Certain it's bitcoinmarshal's account)
This user was also caught before: https://archive.is/FVK2L (Take a look at his trust)

Both Bitcoinmarshal and his alt BitSat sent merit to this profile.

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List of the profiles with Hua_hui name: https://bpip.org/search.aspx?q=hua_hui

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I suspect these users to be his alts (Can do more search on them to be certain) [These accounts have somewhat merit relation with the accounts above and share same behavior like Bitcoinmarshal, Posting in altcoin section]

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/magisterr-109296
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ribak1992-1001213

I'm sure he has more alts that aren't included in the list.

After looking at other thread for banned accounts today I don't question why you made that argument but if theymos/cyrus want then I can provide a solid proof such as medical reports to support the facts I've presented.
But i think it'll be seen as another excuse.

As I said before I didn't mean to steal someone else's idea, work or thought and nor I did that. I just made a massive mistake of accepting their offer that I shouldn't have.
I understand I should have considered my forum's account position and consequences if they fail to deliver what they've promised because of their grudge or greed.

And if punishment by the permanent ban is good for the welfare of the forum, then I'll have to move on keeping this experience in mind.

Would you be sticking up for someone else if they got caught copy and pasting? The forum has fallen due to copy and pasters and spammers and hence why they're punished appropriately when caught because we have a zero tolerance policy for plagiarisers. This really isn't about being vindictive but enforcing the rules across the board that everyone knows about, especially older members. Being here x amount of years isn't a licence to copy and paste. If you've been here so long you should know better but I don't think some users should be given a free pass just because they did something stupid or came up with an inventive excuse. I really just wish people would stop copy and pasting so nobody would have anything to complain about and nobody had to do any banning. The punishments are there and strict so people know not to do this behaviour. The only change to the punishments for plagiarists I'd be ok with is that they lose their signature instead and can still post here, but for 99% of people who are banned for copy and pasting this is as good as a ban anyway, but at least they can still contribute here.

Wow, it's really sad to see how far this forum has fallen. A member who has been a loyal part of this forum for over three years is permanently banned over copying and pasting some posts, with no realistic chance of appeal, unbelievable.
 
Since when has this forum become so vindictive that even well-known members are not provided a second chance, especially over something so meager. Not only that, but most of the comments here are extremely warped at best, and delusional at worst.
 
Well done to the Pharmacist and LoyceV for sticking up for this user, it seems most of the other DT members are so far gone that they cannot reason beyond their own resentful frame of mind.

hahahahahahaha welcame to the parti of ban persons if ban thus no cannot be unanned on the forum  rip yours landing service that what happenes when your mess with me you will be a examples to everyone on forums.............. haahaha so much satisfying

Well, if you look at his trust ratings then you will see he tried to gain trust from different trusted members indirectly by messaging them and asking them to get their trust by sending before |His accusation thread|

Well, in my opinion he posted here to show forum how much he despises copy&pasters, That is a red, Nice catch 

Some hold grudge against the other person they're opposing or trying to bash them at their worst situation (mostly happens),
Others are those who have seen more than enough scammers on the forum and will bash anyone that seems to fit scammer category as per their past exp.

And this is the post of the kind you're talking about, showing as if knows everything in detail also telling about the values.


But on the other hand, offering to help random group pump knowing well aware it will ruin the experience of a new trader "https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18518784"
- Selling account "https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18576497"
- 2nd Thread "https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18576368"
- 3rd Thread " https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19843605"

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Breaking rules of selling accounts, Multiple threads for a single service and trying to bash someone else without considering his past actions.

Edit: Sorry for being a little off topic from the thread, Did some random digging on him and no surprise he was the kind that I thought him to be, People like him are the ones that pisses me off the most.
I'm in no position to open accusation against him looking at my position atm so I'll leave it as it is.

Whatever, what you did is not even that bad. People here act like they are gods. In reality I don't think anyone gives a shit really, perhaps a few but most of them just like to bash people for any stupid shit.

Thank you Pharma, That means a lot 


I tried contacting Cyrus through PM today and a few days ago still no response, Maybe they are busy with other stuff like recovering hacked accounts.

The only exception I've seen, was made by Cyrus (See [Solved]). OP could try his luck there too.

Obviously you didn't know Roboabhishek, and I'm not just talking about getting his rank wrong.  Look at his feedback and you'll see he was a pretty trustworthy and stand-up guy--and a person who made a big mistake by letting someone else use his account and thereby letting the idiot who controlled it to get Robo banned for plagiarism. 

What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting.  Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one.  Rules are rules and the lesson to be learned here is to be very careful with your account because shit like this can happen.  It's unfortunate.  Robo's the kind of member who'll be missed, whereas the forum is better off without the usual plagiarists who get caught.

Robo, it sucks to see that you're banned from the forum a few deals i had with you were pleasant and you ran your lending thread in a professional manner,
You were way too kind and naive to trust him or her tbh but can't blame you, Kindness got the most out of you this time.

There was a mistake on your side as well of not reviewing the posts before posting or even better not accepting them in the first place but i hope admin unbans you this time because of the services you provided to the forum did a great job to some people who needed a quick no collateral loan quickly and was very reliable with what you said.
I don't know if it's ok to communicate through forum messages since they've banned you so i will pay close attention to this thread of yours.

Regarding loan business: I think there are a few outstanding loans but those accounts are either abandoned or have gotten -ve trust so yeah there's no reason to expect them back.
This user Bitcoinmarhall was the only to whom I've given this loan duration to pay back his loan because of his health and in life issues with money (at least that's what he told me).

To bounty/campaign managers: Through some contacts, I came to know that a few bounty managers had given this user work of Data entry of stakes in past so it's better to check the spreadsheets for any errors that could get you in trouble shortly.

I was also informed that this user has a considerable number of alts in the forum those were used for asking loans after reaching a certain rank in the conference and then defaulting on them.

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Moral of the story: Avoid those who are providing you with a service or asking for the loan by stating the reason (They've ill grandparents, need money for kids, etc.)
Doesn't even matter for how long you know them on the forum,  Just a matter of time before they leave you in the dust for their financial benefit.

His account still hero member. Why are you happy to see some high ranked user got banned?  Because your account can't level up due to merit?

Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.

The deals I've done with you were pleasant and I've always respected you as well including a few other members but it sucks to see that there's no coming back from consequences of the mistake I've committed.

Also, I do understand the complexity of the situation and unbanning me can lead to an immense fuss which I doubt they'll do. And thank you for the support you've shown 


Everyone makes a mistake at some point in their life and pay a massive price for it.
I'll consider this mine for lacking the ability to judge the motive of someone and not giving it a 2nd thought before accepting their offer.

There is absolutely nothing that can be done concerning the ban account as long as it a permanent ban and reason being plagiarism/copy and pest, rules are made for our consumptions and knowing the law but yet chose to break it. Self admitting is not an excuse just take it as your faith and move on.

The only thing this is an example of is how lazy and greedy people are. It's getting ridiculous. You would think if this forum is their livelihood or the best opportunity they can get to earn a decent living then they wouldn't screw it up and would be on their best behaviour, but no. It's like getting a job you know you're lucky to get or have been giving a chance with, and it's a great job for the pay, and yet instead of doing the work, you slack off, turn up to work late, and then try passing off the work to someone else because you're too lazy to do it, and then when they do a shoddy job you ultimately pay the price, but it's still their fault for passing off the work to someone else so they're the only person to blame here regardless of who did they plagiarising. The person who bares the signature has been hired to do the job, not somebody else, and it's that persons responsibility to make sure they do what they're asked. If they sub contract the work and they screw up then the fuck up is still on them not the person they hired (or passed the work off to, which they shouldn't have even done in the first place).

Just wondering how somebody can loan /shitpost  on the account.
 Look like they all need to first learn about the importance of the account before learning about bitcoin/crypto related stuff.

Robo, you and I have done deals together, and I've always respected you.  That absolutely sucks that you got banned--and I'm sure they're not going to make an exception for you as far as un-banning your account, though keep your fingers crossed about that.  You've never been the shitposting type of member who's usually the one asking to get their account back and I'm sorry to see it's come to this for you.

It was a bad decision on your part to do what you did, though, even if it wasn't you personally who did the plagiarizing.  Anyway, if you're gone for good I'll miss doing the occasional deal with you.  Peace out, bro.

Yeah I know, right?  I've seen other members here do this, including aTriz if I'm not mistaken.  This is another example of why the "shitposting for pennies" statement that I hear a lot on the forum just isn't true.  These aren't small amounts of money we're talking about, especially if you live in a country where 0.001BTC (that's just a random amount) has greater purchasing power than a place like the US, Canada, or the UK.  

For some people it's worth it to outsource the posting for whatever reason, but this case with Robo definitely underscores how risky it can be.

Outsourcing posts now?  Another one for the bingo card. Blows my mind how lazy people can get here. All you have to do to earn a fairly decent amount of money here is make some posts but apparently even that is too difficult for a lot of people. Regardless, it doesn't matter who did the plagiarism or who you're trying to blame it on as the matter of the fact is that account was caught copying content. You should have taken better care of the account and certainly not trusted some random person to make posts for you but you've paid the ultimate penalty for that. If we were going to give you a pass because you claim someone else made those posts for you then everybody would use that excuse but it's certainly not one we're going to accept.

Cmon dude what's wrong with you? I give up you win.

OK. It was probably bad idea to post here. Lets try it this way:

"I don't see any reason why you should be banned from this forum, you actually did nothing wrong. Coca-Cola also did it. I don't understand why you are banned, moderator is wrong. You said you didn't know copied post(s?) was plagiarism. It is fine to copy other peoples words if you are busy with other things and it is fine to enter discussion with other people's words if you don't have time for discussion and to express your own opinion. When busy with other things, it is recommended to copy/paste here." 

Read this post by theymos. It doesn't matter what you or anyone else believes, that topic is filled with endorsements from green-trusted users, and he's still banned.

What do you mean by that?
If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created?


I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself?
Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong.

Quoted for reference.

Verified.

Verified.

BitcoinMarshall is banned already, so I don't think your loan will be paid back.

I don't really see him complaining, it's more like stating facts. I must say it's kinda refreshing to see someone actually admit to plagiarism, instead of denying it until some quoted evidence is provided.
As for the ban: it's your own responsibility to make sure your posts don't break the rules. Even legit hacked accounts aren't getting recovered, and for plagiarism I've only seen 1 exception made for as long as I've been on this forum.
That only leaves your loan business: do you have any outstanding loans to deal with?

Since your account has light-green trust, I'll leave a neutral feedback to show that it's banned.

Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?
This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism.
I didn't say it will be easy to move on. You have to accept it.

Forget it,  you might get more frustrated when you want to set things up correctly here as been observe that admin and staff are neutral when it comes to peer to peer transactions and this is not their concern. It is your due diligence that you had been doing and trusting people with your account and the loan you provided with that user.

Jeez, this does reveal a lot about you and your actions in the future if you get into a situation like i'm atm.
And so this was my last response to Smart.

I am not throwing rocks at anyone here, I just got a genuine reason for you to not to make this thread. Also people like you are just a big shame to this great forum.
Its just a simple thing if you can't express your views on the forum, that does not allow you to just buy others views here and earn money with them.

You are a spammer and you should admit it man!

I think your intelligence is more questionable here, as you have done a very stupid thing by starting this thread and self admitting that you are a plagiarist

So you want me to listen to people like Altrust and accept whatever they're saying? Your words seem to me that way.

Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late.
Obviously, This is an excellent forum for making trades, lending and through different services, there's no denying it.
It could be easier for you to move on from the situation like this one sorry but I can't.

Nothing personal telling the truth as well.

huh?

all I can say is that you're very generous giving .06 bitcoin loan and it's either you're naive or too trustful to expect that person you only met online will really pay you and to keep the matter worse, you let him post in this forum using your own account. Now he left you with banned account and unpaid loan. This is such a terrible story.  I'm kinda confuse with all that you said so one question that really bothered me, what is the issue you need help ?! If I were you I will look for the guy so he can pay me than ask  to retain your banned old forum account

You are too busy with other staff. So enjoy your time with the ban. You do not need to post here by taking copy pasted content from others. If so, perma ban is suit for you.

Self admitted plagiarist. Why are you complaining exactly?

This forum provided you one of the best ways to earn money doing literally nothing and you were too lazy to do that "nothing" yourself. I don't feel sorry for any of you people banned for copy/pasting for the sake of signature campaigns.
You are the one responsible for your account and your actions, no one forced you to copy/paste other peoples words. You have been banned, stop complaining and learn to live with it.

OP I don't have anything against you, just telling you the true.

Did you care to read the thread or even cared to view my post history of that time properly?
I'm not even sure that I was using that guy's post during the time you mentioned above. You're just trying to throw a rock at me in order to achieve something.

I can question the intelligence of the person who hired or wants to hire you as their campaign/bounty manager.

This is a interesting case for me ...

By looking at your post history





I can say that you were trying to spam this BTC paid signature campings by buying posts. Also you got payments for most of the campaigns. The comments were in no way valued by you so it is just equal to signature spamming.
Not much of them are able to spam BTC paid campaigns here so found it much interesting

By the way, I don't think a account which is banned permanently for copy paste can be recovered.

I change the password of my account frequently after a few weeks. And no I haven't bought this account.



Here you go.

I'd be interested verification from:

https://archive.fo/HUKwN

1AquRqe6L3CN7T38zkYNn7BtQuGpsfZLTN

Don't forget to change that too

Try to run a lending service on this forum and you'll understand more than words coming out of someone's mouth.


If not satisfied yet then feel free to leave a message on telegram @Leblock

I checked the posts he wrote for me in starting and they were not as horrible they are now. As the days passed his average quality posts turned into a mess.
Also, I do blame him for breaking the trust and sending me plagiarised posts rather make creating them on their own.


Thank you for making a new account just to post on my thread. Are you a butthurt whose loan request(s) I denied in past?
I must admit you need that positive trust from him more than I need to scam on loans.


Exactly he told me he had written posts like that for someone else also in past and maybe doing it now. Because of the loan deals, I had with him in past I trusted the word came out of his mouth at that time.
Plagiarising posts is a crime here and a big one I understand but I ethically he was providing me his work with his consent.

I can Sign the message from "1CjgsXAjvfhUKqtjPzCAMCF5tdB2GpfxC4" linked on my lending thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/robo-lending-service-fast-simple-way-to-get-loan-2220514

That is also why it is such a bad idea to buy / sell accounts or use them as collateral.

There are a number of posts that make me believe this account has a dubious ownership history.




https://archive.fo/pEhec

@OP Not certain why you would agree to let someone pay off the loan for ghost writing for you when I can tell from the conversations you posted links to, your English is far better than his. This story doesn't seem to make much sense. Also, the password on this account was changed soon after the posting stopped.... Did someone sell you a green trusted account that happened to be worthless cause it was permabanned? Sorry if my theory is way off.

Someone else wrote your posts for you - for which you claimed the credit.

Regardless of the fact that they plagiarized them from someone else - you didn't acknowledge that someone else was writing the posts for you.

I cannot think of any reasonable excuse why someone would get someone else to formulate ideas , write them down and then post them as their own work without acknowlegement.

If you can't write any of your own posts - then just don't post. Simple.

Stake your bitcoin address or PGP key on bitcointalk so if there is a long time where you don't post you can prove that you are still in control of the account.

What a fucking story! lmfao lesson hard learned if in the incredibly statistically unlikely event it is true.
you deserve a merit for that post

unusual for you to post anywhere near the first page you mega spam thread lover with most thread post #s in the hundreds

u even had trust from hilarious and you tossed it all slinging that sig

oops
better luck next time

Damn, this is even worst than doing it yourself.
It is like hiring someone to plagiarize for you. Not checking his work is not an excuse since you shouldn't accept his offer un first place.
Anyway, it is your account and you can't blame anyone for what you post.

Since you got banned, you are not allowed to create a new account unless you think you don't deserve a ban and want to complain, which is not the case here.

If this Account is banned about copy and paste it will be banned Perma !

Nobody can say if you posted that or someone else .  

Fact is if the reason for the ban is plagiarism you dont get it back !

Apologies do not help after it was done, as the rules were known !

Maybe this guy wasnt it too and his Girlfriend did the post ?  LOL  !

Good luck with that , but guess its an waste of time to ask about your Account will be unbanned !  

Recently my account "Roboabhishek" got banned, and I am sure it was due to copy paste.

The user BitcoinMarshall was providing me posts for the loan I provided him. I asked him on discord that if he can pay the mortgage but he kept offering me his excuses by telling he has kids and things are going badly for him.
But promised that he would repay my loan amount of 0.06BTC.

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Screenshots
- https://prnt.sc/lpv548
- http://prntscr.com/lpvbvw

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Then he told me he could write posts for me in return for the loan amount.

At 1st he asked for my account (I refused) then I asked him will he copy-paste from the internet?
-He declined and said he would write the posts all by himself and in past, he had written posts for some people as well.

I said ok and told him to write posts for me in notepad and provide it to me in discord.
He then continued to provide me posts daily. (For a few days I checked that his post quality was average, After a few days he started sending me inferior post quality)
I didn't read much of it, copy pasted as I was busy with other stuff.

In October I had my surgery and wasn't active on the forum for a few weeks.
Then in hospital post-surgery after a few days in bed, I opened up my account, and I saw the message saying you've been banned.

I tried to contact him, but he wasn't replying to me regarding the situation either on telegram nor on the discord.
The posts he provided me were partially copy pasted from different sources and merged into a single post.

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He said he will remember that I provided him a loan when he needed it and will always remember the favor and here's how I get treated by this person.
Also, he ran away with the loan amount. Just wanted to bring this up on the forum for my mental relief.