Topic: Affiliate signature campaign (Read 571 times)

That's not going to happen the username in the spreadsheet wearing the signature was last posted 10 days ago maybe he is already on vacation, so we can conclude that the campaign is over, and sad to say a failure, overall they have 55 rounds of the campaigns and one affiliate campaign, and they used to be the highest paying campaign.
I don't rule out that they are going to relaunch the campaign hopefully it's a campaign like what other casinos and they used to do and that is paying weekly.
We can consider Blackjack.fun is the best blackjack platform in the industry there will be many similar platforms coming so they have to still allocate on branding.

Blackjack.fun has good affiliate rewards but launching a signature campaign here is unlikely that participants are going to get new members, a signature is for branding and gaining trust of the gambling community, I remember signing up to one casino I did not sign up through a signature I check on their announcement thread and sign up there if not for the signature campaign I will not sign up, signature is a sign that you have a strong presence here in this forum and that will make you competitive.

Welps, like I thought before, this kind of campaign won't favor those wearing the signature unless if the person wearing the signature has a casino review site, youtube channel or blog with good traffic, which i very well know most members here don't have.

The casino will keep getting the exposure via one's signature while, they won't get anything in return for weeks or even months. The only option is probably to shill the casino as hard as one can in every post while asking users to sign up using the ref link in the signature.

I would like to give an update on this affiliate signature campaign it will be one month next week so far only one participant is wearing the signature code all the other 10 participants on the spreadsheet are not wearing the signature code anymore as they are on another campaign others choose to take out the code and make their signature space blank
I'm sure they are planning something to continue branding Blackjack not only concentrating on affiliates we'll see their next move.

These are two additional participants but out of 11 participants on the current spreadsheet only three are still wearing the signature code but they are not active posters I haven't seen the Blackjack.fun signature on the gambling board, and there's no update on who got paid so so far it Blackjack.fun has free advertisers while participants have zero earning we don't know yet in the coming weeks, or there will be zero participants

How is this new experiment of affiliate signature campaign going on?
I would like to ask the participants if they've earned from affiliation since they joined that signature campaign.


Just wondering if that campaign successfully working or just a win-win situation for the casino but zero benefits for the participants.

OP I guess this kind of campaign is a failure this will be a reference for another similar campaign, they could have good success if they are not an old casino promoting their site here, they can do what other casinos are doing just brand themselves, Coke management knows that people are drinking their beverage, but they keep coming up with commercials and still doing a lot of marketing to remind people to keep drinking Coke, the gambling community already knows about Blackjack.fun just remind them to continue playing through a signature campaign.

So far there's no update on the campaign thread Sujon bumped it and there's one applicant coming from the 1XBIT former participants with a lot of bad feedback and flag, one of the disadvantages of this thread is you cannot get good posters for your banner visibility, they will either come from 1XBIT or from altcoins participants that are obviously spammers.
If they are serious about launching another campaign they should do away with this affiliate campaign and just give it to those real affiliate marketers.

When I saw this campaign, at first I thought it was going to be a paid per post campaign and that you could also put the referral link. I think the same thing happened to a lot of the people who applied and then withdrew the application.

As far as I remember, when campaigns let you do that back in the day, practically nobody got money for referrals.

So far out of 11 participants in the campaign, only three are still wearing the Blackjack.fun signature and two of them are not active posters one of them has active applications in the other gambling campaign, and only one is an active poster maybe that one got referrals for him to remain active poster while wearing the signature I hardly see any Blackjack.fun signature in gambling boards, I guess the manager is the only one who got paid in the first week of the campaign.

In their first week out of 11 participants, only 3 remains, as there are many signature campaigns opened up not only in the service that pays Bitcoin but also in the altcoin section where there are some campaigns that pays with already tradeable tokens like TRC USDT

I have huge respect for Sujonali I'm sure he is aware of the condition of the campaign and he will do the right thing to maximize Blackjack.fun promotion, this is my old campaign where I stay the longest they should continue branding they have a good manager in Sujonali I'm sure they can come up with better compensation, hoping to see changes in the campaign and I wish Blackjack.fun longevity in their industry.

it's very impossible to earn on that campaign even the name it self is already known for how many years and have another successful campaign here in the forum. Because its too hard to imagine tbh that there are some people will put efforts to deposit using your links on the signature, i believe your lucky enough it wiill happen.   

I don't think anyone will be interested in joining this campaign with 0 guarantee of getting any profit because it won't matter if you post quality posts or topics or whether you are a member or a hero member it won't defer that much. And the conditions of getting 50$ are so hard, if you get some chance that someone register using your link you need also a deposit and a 300$ wager in order to get paid.
It's going to be a good promotion and get more people's attention if they just add it and beside getting a weekly payout

40% lifetime affiliate commission looks like generous offer, but actually it's very cheap way for advertiser to promote their business. I don't think it's very likely that someone will sign up through the link on your signature and will wager significant amount of money. Especially if you're average poster and your posts don't get that much attention. Most likely that you will end promoting them for free.
Answer yourself, have you ever done such thing yourself? Clicked on signature, signed up, deposited money and started to gamble? Personally, I use some services which were promoted here, so advertising works, but I can't remember that I signed up there by clicking link on signature.
I remember that some campaigns in past (and maybe now) allowed to put your referral link in signature to get extra earnings additionally to regular campaign payments. But I doubt that this Blackjack.fun model will work.

It probably will I hardly see Blackjack.fun signature in the gambling section there are only a few participants and since there is no minimum post required they are not motivated to post, let's see on the first-week result they cannot keep doing this if no participants made money they can do both affiliate and signature campaign if they implement this many will join and participate.

It's very rampant in any niche referring to yourself so you get recurring profit but of course, you need to use different IP and computer


I used to be a part of the campaign, and its one of my best and longest campaigns but all good things will have an end it's just sad for all participants that they prefer a different direction when they relaunch the campaign.

I don't want to say I wish it too, but I hope they brand themselves in a different way, they can do affiliate marketing and at the same time signature campaign and all signature campaigns will automatically become affiliate marketers by having their affiliate link in their campaign.

Chances are that they will spend months and not get any referrals to bet the set amount. Besides, it can happen like in other sites, that people create another account to refer themselves.

That site was even in the 2nd highest paying house after CM, along with Best Change, $100 a week plus bonus if I remember correctly. They wanted to have advertising without spending, and it doesn't seem like a good idea. The campaigns on the forum show that they are profitable, if you pay a dollar you will get more than that dollar.

I hope this experiment ends up failing and that the other sites are not willing to try it out

So far out of 11 on the spreadsheet, only 7 remain, and the other 4 take out their signature, we'll see in a few days who got referrals and made money from their referrals, I notice that majority of those who are still wearing signature are not the active poster and they have applications on other campaigns, they wear it temporary while looking for another campaign to join.

If they will not change it and no participants made money from this campaign, there'll be no participants in the spreadsheet, 

You'll not only have to post to get referrals Blackjack fun is already a brand name here in Bitcointalk you're not going to get many referrals here because they have done 55 weeks of the campaign in the past unless some people decided to sign up again using different credentials, but you also have to promote it outside of this forum, this is a CPA campaign even those who are not in the campaign can participate in the affiliate program when you sign up on their affiliate program there's nothing there that says that you have to be a Bitcointalk forum member, I think the rewards are just the same.

https://partnersofblackjack.fun/

I used to do this CPA thing when I was just starting out in money-making ventures on the internet

https://digitalschoolofmarketing.co.za/digital-marketing-blog/what-is-cpa-in-digital-marketing/

I even gave out free e-books and then commission sharing just to have my sign-ups do what is required for me to get payment


It is free marketing indeed because it's not the signup but the action of your referrals that matter there is no guarantee of sign up you have to choose the best place to employ the best marketing and target the right people, and of course since this a gambling site your referrals needs to lose.


Bloggers and video influencers are the ones who are good at this because they can get the message across because they have their own platform where they are the ones setting the rules, gamblers will likely sign up for a guy giving instructions or tips on the video than a link which tells nothing but to land in the site.
Those who are experienced in internet and affiliate marketing have an edge on this kind of campaign

There is no benefit in that for the participant. You only get paid if someone signs up using your referral link, deposits a significant amount of money, and losses it while gambling. Posting in sub-boards, which are the playground for spammers isn't going to get you any referrals simply because the people there don't care about it, they don't have any money, and maybe don't even understand English to know what it is that you want from them.

It's not that tricky. You only get paid if the casino makes money from the players you referred. If the referred player wins a jackpot, like in your example, and walks away with more money than what they came with, the casino hasn't made any profit. Hence, you don't get paid. If your referral deposits and losses, the casino makes money and you get your share of the pie. 

Its s really good strategy by the casino to get more visibility and only have to pay if there is any benefits from the campaigners to the company so it make sense but people who used to the pay per post or fixed weekly payment will not be interested in this campaign unless they have lot of influence here and can make people to use their signature space and get paid but people with such amount of influence will not be really interested in $50 so this is kind of experimental signature campaign and we have to wait and see how it works.

This does look interesting. It's a new approach. I think I haven't seen something like this before. I'm a little excited how this eventually pans out.

I'm thinking this is highly advantageous to the brand. The brand could actually get free marketing in the end. Participants are making the brand visible but it's not necessarily paying for it. Name recall is a good effect of this without shelling out money for promoters. Whenever somebody wants to try blackjack, Blackjack.fun could be the first platform to come to mind. That doesn't necessarily mean an affiliate link is used, though.

However, this is a bit disadvantageous to the participants. Yes, they could earn big from this, but how many would actually register using their link? How many would actually make a deposit? How many would bet at least $300? This last condition is particularly the biggest challenge. I guess it would help if your account here is popular and that you're making a lot of posts. If you're a low-rank member, not influential, not making lots of posts, not very visible in other words, you'll only wish somebody would stumble upon your signature and use the link.

If you're a participant and you're not getting anything after three weeks you will change your signature, all the other promoters of online casinos here are getting paid and why I am not, if you're good at something why not get paid for it, this is for our comrades who are good in CPA, they can target the right people who can take action on what they are offering, but if you're relying on your post here in Bitcointalk you are 50/50 to get money but the positive side of it is, you just need one whale to make huge referrals rewards.

Requiring their participant to post would be a bad move since they don't pay per post or weekly like your usual campaign. There is no guarantee that they will get paid either so it is best to let them post anywhere and whenever they want. The income comes from affiliates anyway. I doubt anyone interested in the campaign would just spam every day just because there are no rules about posting.

The model is not new and it's quite standard in other industries.
It's normal for a company to pay on the amount it makes, the other type of payments might just make you lose money, I know the adult industry was focusing on a few methods and abandoned them one by one
- PPI, pay per impression, easy to fake, end up paying just for advertising, maybe zero sales from 1 billion instant close of the advent page,
- PPC, pay-per-click, easy to the fake, same stuff you end up paying thousands and no real sign-up and no money spent
- PPS, pay per sale, obviously, you get money for each sale, just like the above:
but again can be faked, you sign-up with two accounts, you make an arbitrage on a bet, and you get in one account ~$560-580, the other loses, but you still gain 100 from referrals, but it's on a lower scale, and far easier to trace abusers
-revenue share, the guy pays 50$ a month for a subscription you get 10-20% of the sale. Can't be faked, and can't be taken advantage of unless you play with stolen cards, which is really not worth it as the chargeback will show up before you get paid.

I don't get the

This is tricky, it's a commission on how much a referral has lost and not the entire deposited sum, then if your referral hits a jackpot and goes on a positive balance with a few hundred thosuands you're done for as the other must lose the same thousands just to ket your balance positive.

Anyhow, not new:
[Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 10% of house edge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedice-affiliate-program-passively-earn-10-of-house-edge-745779

This is the first affiliate campaign signature based on my knowledge, I stand to be corrected this is the spreadsheet for their new round

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3TqgcXRXY1I22qq-uYAS3SujM7vCtfvQgPmVpsiSf0/

So far 11 participants let's see the number after a week, I don't want to speculate its better to see the result of this campaign in its first two weeks, but if you're one of the participants don't just rely here in Bitcointalk you have the whole gambling community to spread your affiliate link.
It's possible to have 10 sign up and get nothing and one signup and get hundreds of dollars it all depends on the character and action of your referrals.

I was one of the participants of their campaign and they have a very long campaign back then so I wonder will these participants get new sign-ups here, unlikely if this is a new casino with good potential then probably they will new sign up, it's free advertising
it's like a CPA where you are on your own and you are left where you want to promote how you promote it as long as you are not violating their terms.

You can post 100 posts here and there's a probability you cannot get signed up even if you do get a sign up you need to complete a requirement to qualify for their rewards, you need to have experience as an affiliate marketer to do this.

Especially if the forum users got used to get weekly payments from campaign so most provably those people who didn't get much on that kind of campaign will provably shift to another one and they think that its more worthy to join on weekly payment camps.

Although this is somehow a good offer but you need to spend a lot of efforts before you can gain.

But there is no minimum post requirement and there is no limit to where participants want to promote their link. If so, I think participants can certainly go elsewhere where spam isn't moderated as long as participant's name is written in the spreadsheet and wear signatures.

It's interesting to observe how many people applied thinking this was a standard signature campaign only to cancel their applications later. People really have a problem with reading and understanding some basic pieces of information.

This campaign won't benefit the majority of its participants, but to the casino, it means free advertising. Some of those who do get accepted might try to abuse the referrals and refer themselves. After that, there will be KYC requests with the potential of scam accusations popping up where those who cheated didn't succeed in tricking the casino.

The casino and the campaign manager aren't lying. Everything is clear. Those who join the campaign expecting regular weekly payments can only blame themselves. Still, I wouldn't support this kind of behavior, and I hope the campaign ends as a failure and no one else attempts anything similar in the future.   

I expect only 1-2 from 1000 users will get paid.

The purpose of signature campaign is to make the project visible in this forum and that would interest new people to register the casino but it doesn't must need to click the signature link in order to register the casino. Even though only few users who register with the referral link, it doesn't mean the signature campaign isn't working. But of course the one who change the rules is the casino representative, sooner or later they will know this kind promotion wouldn't working.

Does that mean people never click on a signature? I doubt; I have discovered a few casinos from the signature campaign and checked them through clicking the signature.
Well, blackjack is well known to bitcointalk community; they aren't new here. There's little chance of getting click if you take from that perspective. If it was a new casino, chances would be high.

We have forum users who are still doing this. The rules here in bitcointalk is somewhat strange LOL.

Tricky!

Good for the company if people register through the affiliate link and deposit. Bad for a participant if no one ever users his affiliate link  
It's like saying, I will only pay you if you advertise and bring in a customer through your referral.

I think it will also encourage shilling around the forum, which is unnecessary according to most members... More like, "Hey, there's this excellent casino, please sign up using the link in my signature"

In business aspect, this is really a good way to promote the site^{(it's a win-win situation for them)}.

But it is not fair for those who will join. Why? they already made a name on this forum, their previous campaigns requires website registration too, well, a lot did applied and created an account ^{(because of higher pay rate)}.

So as a participant/affiliate, the chance for someone to register using your signature/affiliate link is very low. Besides invites still needs to deposit xxx amount before an affiliate get their reward.
Although it's really unfair to the participants, it's not that bad to do such campaign, but don't expect more people will join.

Just about every gambling site out there has SOME for of referral link. It's tagged to your account anyway. This just takes it and instead of just putting http://youwillnever.win/?ref=Dave someplace it makes it a nice pretty signature. There are no posting requirements or anything else so I don't see this as a real signature campaign just a nice looking referral campaign that happens to be in your signature.

Not that big a deal IMO. With that.

However, I can see this being open to a bit of abuse unless sujonali1819 keeps a tight control over posts. No min characters no max posts. Can spiral out of control quickly. Remember yobit.....

-Dave

Indirectly, this scenario will benefit the casino without having to pay for every post from its participants.
The problem is that it would be difficult to expect someone to spend $300 as a valid referral only for you to get paid $50, and I am worried people are much more likely to sign up without an affiliation than sign up through your affiliate link if they don't want you to earn $40 out of their losing $100.

I'm afraid a campaign like this won't be successful in the end to get a lot of participants, but on the part of the casino it's clear they will benefit because whoever will promote the brand in the signature doesn't need paid, as long as it doesn't fulfill the following conditions:

As long as there are campaigns with steady pay, only few desperate or too low rank would go for such a campaign.
This kind of advertising may be okay on social media and maybe for very few who start specific topics on gabling, maybe exactly at the casino they're advertising. So unless the user has special (both advertising and gambling) skills, only few lucky ones will get anything, I'm afraid.

And Royse does have a point: there is brand and there is conversion. I feel though that this model unfairly favors too much the casino, by paying only for the conversion.

Without a weekly payment, there won't be many good people involved in the campaign. After all, the risk of earning nothing at all is very high. No income without clicks. And even if you get a referral, they have to wager $300 and that's certainly not a little. After all, there's no minimum number of posts you have to make, and that's good. But I'm convinced that if you paid weekly like other campaigns, you would have better participants. At least that's my opinion on it. 

This is just a way of advertising, for example, we are now discussing their high referral percentage here as well because of this campaign. Blackjack.fun now have one more thread about them and his affiliate program and nothing more. even without an official campaign, manager etc... any user can create signatures and add their affiliate links, and probably over 90% of all casinos have an affiliate program.
as far as I can see, most users give up on the campaign when they have read the conditions a little better.

I don't think such a model would work probably unless you're one of the minority that people take extra seriously here and at the same time post a lot. I think the typical signature campaign model works because collectively, the campaign participants can give the project/platform a good amount of visibility. Something something strength in numbers. Individually? Probably not.

That's a different kind of signature campaign. No wonder some are withdrawing.

40% lifetime revenue from your referrals   is a huge offer. A lot of webmasters are actually going to take this opportunity to advertise their own referral link to a network. But this is also going to make them spend with the possibility of loss. Finding and making gamblers going to balckjack.fun would be challenging.

Will blackjack.fun allow participants to go to other casino forums with thier links? This could be a good opportunity for those with accounts on casino forums 

Blackjack already created a brand and it will be interesting to see how this campaign works. I see it a positive experiment. Honestly speaking signature campaigns work best to create brand value than conversion. You will see big brands always advertise and stay in front of you even it seems everyone knows about them. It's the brand awareness that matters always.

For example, if today Chipmixer stops their signature campaign - after a few months you will see people are starting to forget about them. How many of us think of Bitsler when we want to play dice? We always look for the name that is in front of us right at the time we are thinking of the product.

What do you think of this?

Blackjack.fun | Affiliate Signature Campaign | v3.0 Launched | Earn Upto 10k USD

The campaign just pays if


Most likely scenario 99% of participants will get 0.

Many people are withdrawing their applications. I think they were in a hurry to apply thinking that it was like the rest, and also with pay per referral, without realising that there was no pay per post.