Topic: Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China (Read 401 times)

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1433446457491742724

We knew this was coming. China taking every opportunity possible to implant their power in Afghanistan, and that includes partnering with terrorists. Chinese aggression means they'll be taking Taiwan very soon, so any hopes of their own autonomy are thrown out the window. Also means China's economy grows stronger adding another trading partner.

I do not think that the United States has a desire to lose more soldiers in Afghanistan, the memory of Vietnam is still a painful memory for all Americans, I think it is a kind of display of military muscle and sending different messages to China and Russia perhaps, America stayed 20 years in Afghanistan and in the end simply got out And unexpectedly, what has the United States of America achieved in Afghanistan after all these years and after all the massive destruction it has inflicted on this poor country?

The government don't care about the citizens left in Afghanistan they will pretend on Tv like they really care but they are only after the tax money put into war, the US and NATO left all fighting jet, weapons in the hands of the Talibans. The Talibans want an inclusive government and that's the best way to go about it, they will do a better job than what the former governments did.

I don't exactly think so! I mean the US and its military power is really something which everyone around the world acknowledges as being the very best, with a lot of middle east operations the US already has a lot of examples to give to Russia and China, you can argue that Iraq was the battleground for US to show it's power but not Afghanistan. The main reason why the US was forced to Invade Afghanistan was because of Osama Bin Laden, US wanted to avenge 9/11 and had to look strong against terrorism as well as to other nations, which was the reason they went all the way to Invade a full country, but yes unarguably, they might have won battles but lost the war

Rule NUMBER 1 ...NEVER pull out your military before you pull out your civvies  

Gen.hornet 1st battalion and patron of the legion of losers and lost causes

Hillary Clinton's Old Afghanistan Prediction Goes Viral: The Young Turks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbZt56qv18&t=338s


"the people we're fighting today, we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets"

Demonstrating power does not always win after the US defeat the taliban took power ending nearly 20 years of US led coalition presence in afghanistan. China has called on the international community to refrain from putting pressure on afghanistan the call comes as the taliban has resurfaced and is about to hand over power after the withdrawal of US troops from afghanistan. At the same time it has refused to use afghanistan as a means of gaining self interest.

the American government has failed and that's a shame. In fact, America is a superpower, but in Afghanistan, America is losing. On the battlefield, it is not always the strong who wins.

I think so. in addition to the war against the intelligence services of developed countries, Afghanistan is also a good place for drug lords with natural resources to produce opium. military officials also sell weapons illegally to rebel groups, so the conflict will never end and there will be civil war.

If it was to show off our capabilities then we failed miserably. China’s news media has been bashing the US pretty badly throughout this catastrophe of a pullout. I honestly can’t believe that Joe Biden has been defending this and people are giving him a pass. It’s amazing to me that our government has become so incompetent. The leadership our military has right now is not only dangerous, it’s downright embarrassing.

That money is used for NATO, I don't think so that anything is spent on Afghans.

"We spent $2.26 trillion over 20 years in Afghanistan which has a population of 37.5 million which is $60,267 per capita. Afghan per capita GDP is about $500 by exchange rates and $2,000 by PPP (purchasing power parity). If we use the higher latter number, we could have provided 30 years worth of income for every single person living in Afghanistan instead of 20 years of war, or more than doubled living standards by 150% for 20 years.  Another perspective, at 4 persons per family, we could have built each family in Afghanistan a $241,000 manson (a new apt in Kabul costs say $25k).  The irony too is that the CIA started the Taliban to fight the soviets.  Anyways, what an immense waste, normal whenever gov. touches anything."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-official-confirms-no-democracy-afghanistan-council-will-likely-rule?commentId=27fdc2c6-0b3e-4f01-a91e-59357831d0e1

finance guys have a way with words that often touches me...

I don't think that the Afghanistan war was for a show off. It never can be. All the game was for Gwadar port. A port that gives Chinese access to the middle east and provides 2nd option for China in case of blockade of South China sea.
It was for the same reason USSR attacked Afghanistan to get access to the warm waters and it is for the same reason China is developing CPEC. And USA wanted to counter it using Afghanistan as a proxy. This afghan war was a war of Intelligence agencies. CIA, MOSSAD, RAW, MI6 against ISI, MSS, Russian agency ...

Pakistan gave the accomodation for the Tliban and China is giving the financial help for them as well so this is war between China and US to show their power to this world meanwhile other country people are suffering for their personal benefits. But now most government closed their borders and not ready to accept the fleeing people as refugees.

Some much needed laughter (when you are so happy with your new ballon)
https://odysee.com/@hugotalks:8/operation-fortitude:2

I don't think american soldiers are even allowed to open carry... it's a full on farce.

PLA has some uber nice clips on video sharing platforms, check them out.

Chinaman ain't afraid of those Nordic tribes either  





....meanwhile after Trillions of taxpayers dollars and the blood servicemen and women and countless innocent men, women and children



 

United States unable to take over Taliban in last 20 years and finally USA were forced to get out of their country facing a miserable defeat. United states have nothing to show to the world, instead i wonder how will they face the world with a defeat ? How will they convince people that the money they used in the war against Taliban in last 20 years and the lives they have destroyed for USA soldiers in the last 20 years, who is to blame for all this ?

Afganistan was a battlefield of superpower since nearly 1980. Russia could not achieve its goals here, defeated and lost its power & states. After Russia losing power America tried to keep its hold But After a great investment in the army and arms here. America could not get success nor succeed to show its power to China. The afghani nation is under war last 40 years. Their economic, social, political structure has been destroyed. Their people are sick of war. They want peace to establish a new developed Afganistan. So it is the duty of all nations of the world to help Afganistan to establish itself.

Maybe the people and the army in Afghanistan think like you.
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Compared with the United States, the United States still has better resources than Afghanistan, and it truly initiates war. Not necessarily who will win.

I suggest that the Afghan government treat the United States in the same way, blocking the Kabul International Airport and blocking the U.S. retreat. Afghanistan will become a war zone in the future, and China will inevitably play a game with the United States.

Yes China is skaking with fear today  

This will be the talk because American and their allies did not succeed in keeping the Afghanistan army in control of Afghanistan. They lost the war after 20 years of abolishing the previous government and they are back in control now.

This news is really not new to us even before they are already using afghanistan and iran as battleground. USA always have a hidden agenda that's why i really dont trust them. If that only to show some firepower to scare other country like china and russia, then they are wrong.

The Korean Defeat was even more brutal than vietnam, add their latest attempt in Myanmar, or Hong Kong, or Xinjang...

My take? It's complicated, the former american republic, known as the united states of america was never ruled by one single agenda. It was more a chaotic entreprise, with sometimes conflicting and other times collaboratings agendas.

I just would like to mention 3 important events that this war on terror permitted to hide

1, the fall of WTC 7... sec files (always winning trades, insider trading records), fbi files (maybe already on the pedogate political take down of Christendom), pentagon 2 trillions missing...



2. the commercial banker bailouts following ben bernanke interest rise while having said to the moms and pops of america to go on variable mortgage rate, while congress had lowered mortgage lending conditions to hide their hollowing out and looting operations against this former republic.



3. pedogate



Don't worry, I understand that for most of you it's way too complex, I don't add that the Iranian battlespace is way bigger than afghanistan and irak combined, with people really ready to die in an end of time total war.

but if you have time, always DYOR and never trust them. NEVER.

and as those events are just part of a bigger plan I would invite you to do your own research on those 3 men :

https://www.azquotes.com/author/2100-Zbigniew_Brzezinski

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/28442.Henry_Kissinger

https://www.azquotes.com/author/12501-David_Rockefeller

once you do please find my threat on how to manage anger on the "off-topic" sub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355058.new#new)

have a nice day and if you wish you can always go back to your predictive programming (teLIEvision or soLIEmedia), or forget...

It's kind of a tradition at this point.

I was disappointed to hear that the Chinese run media is already making reference to the United States not being able to protect Taiwan and basically saying America is a lot of talk but able to stand up and protect those who choose to form alliances with us. It’s sad to think one weak leader can make an entire country seem like such cowards on the world stage.

The lesson to be learned from Afghanistan is that people don't believe in your idea, they won't be fighting for it. It took 20 years to train the Afghan Army and it got destroyed in 2 weeks. Most of the soldiers didn't even fight and just went home. Most of the fighting was done by the special forces but they were outnumbered and had no air support. Most of them got wiped out. So all USA did in the end was giving better weapons to the Taliban.

With the recent news, China is just chill and observing and they can be with the reconstruction of the new government led by the Taliban. There's still both for them, risk and opportunity.

It could mean that Ukraine and Taiwan are free real estate. Some dodgy characters within Russia and China, maybe even some colluding together, to take advantage of the chaotic US foreign policy situation. You see US troops leaving Afghanistan by the Biden admininstration, surely they must be thinking that their aggression would go unchecked. Certainly shouldn't trust Vladmir Putin or Xi Jinping to exercise restraint during a time of US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Oh, and by the way, if the US was interested in showing power, they could do it other ways. They need to send in the bombers.

I hope that the current international arms deals with the United States and Europe will be canceled by all conscious countries and that the countries that have taken arms or technology from the US and EU will consider themselves insecure because when you are in a country If you can't win the war, then what guarantee can such a weapon give you that you will be able to defend yourself or not?

I'm not quite sure about the US' motivation when started the war in Afghanistan but I don't think it's for showing off power. The US failed to do so against China and Russia (Soviet at that time) in Vietnam war and I'm sure it doesn't want to make the same mistake again. It's just Afghanistan the ‘Graveyard of Empires’.

Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia

Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?