Topic: AFRICA: where did they lose it ? (Read 450 times)

Agree with you. However, I believe that public and political institutions itself is unlikely to conduct financial activities of in the blockchain. The business sphere will force them to do it by own example.

Commercial companies will be among the firsts who accept this alignment - investors will insist on the implementation of such a tool as on-chain analytics for all the company's cash flows.

But the core problem is another type.
Many companies have already launched on the blockchain, but do not use its key function - the transparency of financial transactions. In fact, they are not transparent and not decentralized, because the income and cash flow of such companies is never publicly available. A few do it publicly - Synthetix is ​​an example of a bona fide company.

There are different projects on the blockchain with different volumes of transactions inside, but no one shows or discloses the inner cash flows. I have not seen that somebody use an explorer program, like bitcoin scaner or ethereum scaner, which would show analytics on all cash flows in real time.

No stablecoin will show you publicly available, transparent statistics on the collateral.
Binance analytics, usdt analytics - where is all the collateral for the stablecoin, where is the analytics for stocks? One report in 5 years is not counted. Make an API to the bank, where you have stocks-as-a-collateral. You do not need to deanon the beneficiaries, just show the stocks flow: here are the deposit of stock for 5 million dollars, and here we mint usdt for this amount.

Show all your CeFi transactions in the dashboard, otherwise you seem to be talking about blockchain and smart contracts, but it turns out to be just words. Such a product already exists, any business can integrate this API and create a public dashboard with all financial flows.

https://docs.zam.io/ecosystem-1/zboard

If we are building a new economy, lets do it on a solid basement. So that there are no bubbles on the market, no overstatement of capitalization and no hyperinflation and no hyperemmisson!

Then there will be no economic crises and everyone will be evaluated according to the goodwill index.

Public officials and business only on public blockchain. Private citizens business is none of public's business unless it is subject to public business eg: receipt of taxpayers money in grants or other forms of payments over a certain threshold outside of a citizens tax free allowance for fairness sake  

Yes, i think you are right in suggestion the social contract for public figures with much social demand. But no idea will germinate in mind with force as a instrument.

It is necessary to educate everyone's consciousness and respect the individual from childhood. It is necessary to cultivate empathy, emotional intelligence, thinking outside the box, aim to cooperation in everything, independence and at the same time conformity for the common good.

Even at school, you need to immediately teach children that this is the world in which you were born, and here we have the following rules:
We are people, we live in a big commons, so we care each for each other, we vote and participate in the life of society and everyone. Here we respect personal space and do everything both with passion and measure.
The motto is – do everything in measure, so that there is no shame in front of the whole world

Blockchain is a tool that can publicly show the financial activity of everyone. And as soon as ALL payments are shifted to the blockchain, the self-esteem and internal sense of justice of each conscious citizen will tell him in what cases and what amount of payments to accept and make. After all, other conscious citizens can publicly judge you.

Ultimately, the blockchain will help take into account the resources of the entire planet and correctly distribute them over time. Of course, this also requires some kind of global goal like exploring other planets)

Africa as a continent is face with numerous challenges.Africa is endowed with different natural resources raging from crude oil, gold,coal etc.

Africa is the largest and one of the most populated continent in the world.

But where Africa has lost it includes, mismanagement of the scarce resources,low level of industrialization, poor system of education and many more.

In populated continent like Asia and North America, high population is an advantage to them because the population is productive whereas in Africa reverse is the case.

I once heard someone that argued of had a notion to this, on how African became backward to civilization despite the fact that, it showed a promising start to it. The notion on this was, as fir most of us that believes in the divine #God, he said ' it would have been so wrong should Africa has been given much knowledge to manage her affairs and that, Africa was meant to have all these resources and then have the men without colour of other continents be saddles with the wisdom to its transformation'. All that just to ensure they exist together in a delicate balance.  To have international relations and sharing of materials both human and natural resources.  To attain this, Africa became richly blessed with corrupt leaders that despite its multi resources, we are unable to do anything good out of it for everyone buy tends to always put ourselves first before everyone. Thats so wrong!

My solution would be a 'social contract' with zero-tolerance and with teeth.  Teeth which look like a 7.62 and a brick wall.

You choose to work for the public, you work for the public good.  Period.  If you cannot stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen.  There is now a ton of technology to spy on people.  It should be keeping tabs on public sector workers or contractors who get paid out of the public coffers (both being a choice people are free to make), and specifically NOT the people who choose to remain in the private sector.  Right now the opposite is the case.

In this case, corruption can be reduced to a minimum level when everyone's self-conscience can perceive and implement such high concepts as the common good, self-improvement, justice. So how to achieve this?

In my observation, 'corruption' is pretty much universal.  It seems to be a function of being a human in a society larger than a typical hunter/gatherer group, and it makes a lot of sense why this would be the case.

Seems to me that it is 'better' to have the corruption be pushed down to the lowest level possible.  In this case more of the money stays at the local level.  In the U.S. where the corruption lives more at the state, federal, and corporate levels, the 'trickle down' path for the stolen money is so long that little or none of it goes back to the community.  On an individual level most people get all of the mine-shaft and little or none of the mine.

Is a present to a surger from whom depends your life a corruption? I think, no.
But wide spread corruption is not normal, it shows the rotten of the society structure

Africa has never taken control of its own country's destiny, and they do not care about losing anything. State power is also a representative of the interests of other developed countries.

Corruption is a means to an end whereby the corrupted can be manipulated at will and removed from office easily anytime they become uncooperative. It is those who corrupt and bribe the corruptible one should set their attention upon   #seduceanddestroy

in my mind, blockchain and its trustworthy usage can help in fair distribution of Africa resources to African people. The problem is not the foreign takeover of the market, but the wide spread of corruption everywhere

I would say that China is able to penetrate the African market, because they are able to offer much better deals for the African people. The Western powers have been pillaging Africa ever since they established the colonies. Colonial powers such as France and the Great Britain have imposed regime changes and military coups, whenever an African leader would challenge their supremacy. Some of the best leaders Africa ever produced, such as Thomas Sankara and Patrice Lumumba were killed by the colonial powers. In many of the African nations, the first major infrastructural projects started only when the Chinese started investing. Westerners were looting the resources without giving back anything. China on the other hand gives back at least 10% of what they are looting.

Africa is one of the ancient motherlands of human civilization.

Agriculture was already invented in East Africa in 16 millenium BC,
The rise of Africa was in 3000 BC, during the heyday of Ancient Egypt.

The history of our planet and human civilisations is circled, therefore maybe in the next millennium Africa, especially central Africa, will be great again.

What is civilization? It is traditions, architecture, literature, science inventions, moral code and some national core that unite people for a thousand year in one commonality.

Today the social movement of BLM is hypertrophied and fulfilling base instincts and seems not to reach the goal of Make Africa Great Again.

Many foreign countries have even today a strong influence in Africa. There are many natural resources which companies and countries try to get their hands on. 100 years ago the Western countries were the dominate countries, today it seems that China is taking over that control. The high level of corruption in Africa makes them very vulnerable for foreign influence with deep pockets.

For hundreds of years, Africa has been controlled by some world big countries, such as mines, petroleum, communication stations, and so on. The people have been slaved. Even today, in Africa, the leaders of African countries are puppets. There is no hope in Africa.

You are all wrong and that is why Africa is poor and will always stay poor untill you recognize the root cause..
It’s the same root cause of all the corruption also..

Egypt is Mediterranean.. Not nearly the same inhabitants and mid/Southern Africa..

all leaders where corrupt throughout human history kingdomes where often like private corporations fighting each other over income capacities  (gold etc.)
and even if you have a corruption free regime (like Ivan the terrible) it still will suffer from inefficiencies, ill decisions, but worst of all, corruptionfreedom will result in a cruel absolutistic ruler.

Africa was raped and pillaged by colonial powers. It's peoples subjugated and their resources "reallocated" while corrupt tyrants who could be steered with any bribe implanted after the colonial hoards retreated. Just take a look at what happened in Ireland which is white western europe and imagine what they would have done to those "different" folk in the "dark continent".

The world is ran by plutocrats/Kleptocrats no matter what form it takes or under what label.

This post copied from a different thread and associated with the covid scamdemic.  I think it shows in pretty plain terms what one class of problem which vexes African nations are.  Namely that the leaders are themselves slaves.

Not that every nation on earth doesn't have more or less the same problem, but because more genuine leaders are allowed to slip through the cracks in Africa, the phenomenon is more brutally visible for all to see:

Africa "went wrong" when they enslaved my ancestors and sold us to dutch people for 2 nickels and mule. I hate africans. They deserve God's wrath. They enslaved my ancestors. Before that they had their little kingdoms rivalling europe.

I've never heard a single african even awknowledge they are slaving monsters. They poach elephants and watch their children die. What monsters.

India has the same problem and it usually falls to poor education, poor healthcare, no birth control, and small communities/impoverished villages will pump out as many children as they can. Maybe it's different in modern times but even if Africa gets their population under control, they still don't have a worth wild economy that would ever support African prosperity, and it's not like they have any resources to fall back on (no oil, natural gas, ect.) At most they have pervious metals, and that isn't as profitable.

New 'black pope' in charge now.  He's down with technocracy and genocide.  I suppose (people like) you could say that things are 'looking up' for Africa now.

Honest to God, one of the only 'positives' I can find about the Catholic Church _these days_ are the various 'Catholic Bishops' associations and relatively high-level Catholic leaders in Africa specifically.  Best I can figure Rome considered them 'dumb niggers' and didn't bother to try to induct the higher level cadre in that region into the 'new paradigm' of standard Catholicism (which seems to have a strong Luciferian if not a flat out Satanist flavor under leadership Bergdiddlio or whatever his name is...which seems to be why the secular leftists are in love the the guy.)

Africa has got an issue with leadership especially a transparent one at that, Take for instance the colonial masters who broght some sort of civilization to the impoverished blacks even knew that Africa has got a problem with leadership and that is why inorder not to be totally out of their colony, they brought indirect rule system and up till now African Leaders apart from few has gotten the message but still because of greed and intoxication of power, the Blacks and their leadership style has continue to do the unimaginable just to rotect themselves when they might have finished their tenure.
Preaching Peace without building it is like an effort in futility.

As per where Africans got the traits and pattern of being so adamant and wicked to the extent of  their fellow citizens getting dubious to one another is something i cant really talk much about, because the case deteriorate as the day goes by and from all angle, some of the political elite has not been of  good encouragement to even the citizens. But i know of one cause of all this and which is our colonial masters........... well you want to know what am talking about in Africa then? then go go back to the History board and see for yourself.

The reason why Africa lost it all is because of the kind of selfish leaders who think only about themselves. They do not think about about taking Africa forward. What they care about is how to steal for generation.
Corruption and selfishness is what is taking Africa backward

tribal africa always had high birth rates. .. but also high deathrates. hense the need for high birth to counter the deaths.
this was not about democracy. this was about modern medicine.. or lack there of
tribes needed warriors/farmers so need to expand. but tribal battles/disease/famine decreased population. hense more births needed

next came the foreign democracy. this put up borders to stop africans migrating out of africa. while africa internally lacked democracy to negotiate its way to freedom
yes africa still lacked democracy
so the lack of emigration out of africa added more 'growth' to the populous due to no escape to dilute it down

next came the influx of american/european nations colonising and displacing africans. leading to the
houses:population being pushed to its limits where it became a crises

then modern medicine allowed for a better survival rate. meaning population explosion as the birth:death ratio became unbalanced. but again not democracy.. but instead modern medicine

then came the colonial expansion of more displacements and then the land grabs and the political control from the colonials. and the the coups trying to fight back to get land back.
which has occured many times now . same game different face.

then came the african democracy. but still fighting over who should be leader of regions. who has the peoples voice. who has been corrupted by western greed.. more coups. more fights

Well.. I have seen this pattern in other Catholic nations as well, such as the Philippines. Because of massive population growth, the residents remain in extreme poverty and they are forced to work under subhuman conditions in richer nations. And it is not just the Catholic church. Some of the other religious sects also discourage family planning. Actually Africa can't sustain such a huge population growth, since most of the land is arid or rocky. The increasing population has put a huge strain on the natural resources, and this has in turn resulted in inter-religious and inter-ethnic clashes, as various groups compete for limited resources.

Africa is not a single country but it is having abundant natural resources which are still being stolen by wealthy nations and also their human resource. Their leaders are one of the main reason why they become like this, they allow people to steal everything while getting money in return so Africa becomes poor while their leaders are getting rich. There is no job opportunities which also made the people to get into the evil way to be honest so if they want to change then the change should be from everywhere.

This brings us back to my point about Africa suffering from excessive population growth. This is partly due to the 5 stage development cycle, but also certainly due in large part to catholic missionaries... they 'converted' the African population as part of the colonialist drive to establish control... and of course the catholic church bans contraception. The refusal due to western indoctrination to use contraception leads directly to a population increase, which in many cases these countries can't support... which in turn contributes to poverty, malnutrition and starvation. The pope and the catholic church are responsible for a huge amount of suffering on the African continent.

I am the one
 Indeed Africans are  the greatest defendants of religion practices the way they worship and adhere to religious beliefs and doctrines will make one wonder at a point if they’re the originators of this religion. In Africa Muslim/Islamic faithfuls kills people randomly all in the name of there are ten virgins awaiting them.that’s why I’m any terrorist organization/groups you will find Muslim faithfuls than any other religion. Yes I agree the foreigners outsmarted us they cheated us. And this is a wake up call. We can still do this Arise o compatriots.

it’s crystal clear now to all that Africa isn’t independent just as they claim to be the western world knows this bitter truth that Africa can’t do anything without them that’s why they continue to exploit  us like I have said before Africa needs to learn how to own up to its flaws and mistakes and get it done and corrected without blaming it’s colonial masters. Togetherness, transparency and sincerity needs to be cultured into the lives of its people.

This sums up what happened in Africa:


In short, the colonizers took everything of use from the African continent and then indirectly enslaved the native population by propagating two semitic religions. Now the Africans are the biggest defenders of these two religions, ready to die to defend their overlords in Vatican and Mecca.

If you take a look at Africa before colonialism. You will observe that the continent was doing great before colonialism took place.
They had enough to eat, they were living in joy and harmony. But Africa lost it when the white masters came to control  their lands and lives. They became slaves, those who refuse to obey the orders were killed.
That is what is affecting Africa, they are been controlled. I think Africa can do more better if they becomes independent.

Africa was robbed blind off everything it has for centuries (and it still has a lot) and yet you're still asking where did they "lose" it? They never had a chance...

The next 20 years could well be dominated by the effects of climate change... which will disproportionately affect poorer nations and those subject to population pressures, and those on the climate front-line... in many cases, those countries in Africa. I think this will act as a further inhibitor on the rise of Africa, particularly as many African nations still have rapidly increasing populations.

There's a fascinating dynamic visualisation here detailing each country's progression across the five stage demographic transition model... it's apparent that many African nations are earlier on in the process.

There is a really good book that answers this question very well.

https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-and-Steel-audiobook/dp/B004JLTPTI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=21BRN4D96WMUW&dchild=1&keywords=jared+diamond&qid=1618843484&sprefix=Jared+Dia%2Caps%2C679&sr=8-1

Not specific to Africa, but all continents were analyzed.

The book discusses why some cultures developed technology faster than others.  Historical analysis, but helpful nevertheless.

Today, I do not see any impediments to progress, whether on a personal or national level. 
Not just in Africa, but anywhere on this rock we call home.

Elimination of autocrats, religions, and other ancient myths, emphasis on education, especially in science and technology can improve the standard of living for an average African.  African cultures need to undergo a cultural shift to enable their societies to be more productive, democratic, and in the end wealthier.  The change needs to come from within.

Because they were treated like animals by big European countries.Even now in every country there you have puppet leaders.Africa is holy grail of continents and that will prove in the next 20 years.

The rivers are actually a big part of it. Africa's major rivers are in general less navigable than those on other continents. This impedes development beyond a local level.
Consider also that as the cradle of civilisation, Africa was already occupied... whereas other places were not. Obvious recent example is America... people went from crowded, over-exploited, corrupt old Europe to a pristine land of boundless opportunity (and with navigable rivers).

As for the trouble of modern Africa... these are largely the aftermath of colonialism... with the colonial powers not only bleeding the country dry, but also typically creating a power vacuum when they eventually left. See the tragedy of Rwanda as an example here.

19th century africa was more tribal and local law. they didnt really have 'state law'

then politics came in. dividing the land based on political notions not tribal sentiment
politicians started selling the land. without tribal consent. disturbing and displacing peoples villages for corporate profit

damming up the rivers to cater to utility companies for cities, left the land dryer with no natural flow for remote tribes.

mostly it was the land grab politically and from global corporations displacing tribes further away from their natural hunting/farming grounds

then the damming of rivers where only the waste the passes beyond the dams

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ask yourself .. if a village needs to travel 5km a day for water. why did they settle 5km away..
the answer is because they are not allowed to live near the rivers. they were forced out

As you said the corruption everywhere within the African leaders and funding an unnecessary project is the reason why Africa lose it and It not that the north, west, east and south Africa are not capable of latest technology most people who are capable mostly travel abroad while those that can't afford to waste their talent. This is also what happen in the sports scheme you will players traveling abroad before they can put their talent and dream to work because every setting controlled by the African government is full of various corruption that's why some people only care about their family. Did you know that a Nigerian borne guy was among the key developer of the Lightning network?

If African wait patient before they get independent things will be better than how it is now but the government of today operate the government just like the early politicians does after the independent things will be better but most of the current leaders are greed than their destiny.

No, they are capable. Let's say they are not capable why didn't they hire someone who's capable? They are only after every means where they can technically steal the country fund that's why African are the countries that use money buy something they have. This remind these words said by an African president.
If the African government can use this mindset and eradicate corruption Africa will have back his lost glory.

Did you know the two counties that have the largest economy today (USA and China) were colonized also? But you are right at one side that African countries were not capable to even repel the colonial invasion, which can be a guess reason though. But what about Ethiopia and Liberia that were not colonized? They both yet also still lacking behind today.

The problem I see with Africa is that lost their wars in the past and were being subjugated by either Britain or France. Almost all of the African continent was either a colony of one of these two countries. Sure Germany and Italy had some land too but fairly small compared to the other two. The colonies meant that all the local resources were exported to support either France or Britain. There were no big investments in their countries. On top of that were there countries like USA who exported the local population as slave labors. If Africa would have been able to survive on it own and repel all the foreign invasion they would be in a much better position today.

Because Africa is full of corrupt leaders, because they do not depend on themselves but on other Continents. See the giant of Africa (Nigeria) that is lacking a lot behind, see the white Africans (North Africa) not capable of latest technologies again. All Africa people know is themselves and their families (nepotism), they do not careful about others (whites and many other countries do care about others). Our leaders that were there when Colonial Masters left the countries that became independent caused what is happening. The so called South Africa is better because the Apartheid makes the whites to mix with blacks, leading the nations to a greater level, that is why they still have the best economy in Africa.

The Continent (Africa) has good agricultural products, plenty mineral resources, what left is for them to use brain to set up countries that will be standard, but they are not capable. This has just being the beggining, if care is not taken, Africa will remain like this and become even more worse.

Africa countries are not capable to make phone products, computer, automobiles and the likes, they lack in technology. Can you even point out any successful coin made by Africa? For any of the Africa country to even get a local board on this forum is a problem. We need to think about the future, correct the mistakes of the past, depends more on our effort, then we will rise.

In Africa, their presidents and governors or anyone on official governmental seat will go abroad (outside Africa) for medical treatment, is that happening in other Continents? No. They are making their homes shit for their generations to come, the rich ones have their children green card abroad, some were even given birth to in abroad, and come back to Africa. These mentalities we are having in Africa has made Africa like this.

I see the work rested on the governments, but governments that its official sick and fly him abroad for treatment, is that the governments that are ready to help? They are just the governments that depends on importation because all they are using are imported, making life miserable for the citizens. With what I am seeing, I do not think any solution is coming soon, unless the young Africans do not be like their father that are there presently, but do you think they will not be like their father and yet make Africa not going forward.

    Africa had been the cradle of civilization since human existence but along the way something happened they lost everything, no power no might no authority, nothing literally nothing, everything was lost all of a sudden the same Africa that was labeled the cradle of civilization was also tagged with incessant racial abuses, violence and attacks.
  Egypt as we all know is the cradle of civilization and it is situated in Africa I don’t want to lay emphasis on how Egypt lost it entirely, but rather how come Africa lost it entirely, para venture the Egyptians lost it at least another African country/state/nation would have risen to collect the mantle of leadership the United States of America is enjoying now. This is not a long thread but just a question from a concerned fellow willing to know why Africa lost the mantle of leadership.
  Meanwhile please I don’t want religious people to come under the comment section to quote the holy book for me/us all , I only need I need philosophical ideas why you think Africa lost it, also don’t misunderstand this piece I’m not saying there’s no African state doing well that’s not the point .