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The west only gave Africa political independent, nothing more. The west are still benefiting more the he resource of Africa. to me the has gone long time ago, regardless of their invisible hands in the political and economic crises of Africa. however, Africans are the main people under developing the continent, they never want to leave power none develop the land , rather they will invest more in the west. this the  major problems we are facing in Africa right now. until we unite as one and think of the possible best to bring development to the continent, the West Will always be blamed for the misfortune of Africa.
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Who controls the African people? Africans in government. They can't rely on the people they elect to maintain important affairs, so don't rely on them at all.


Africa is the architect of what is happening to the continent and that is leadership. African countries almost all have leaders who rigg themselves into political offices and this is the greatest undoing of the African states. There is a saying that when the head of a fish is rotten, then the whole body is bound to also decay. This is the fact about the African continent but look at some of the Asian countries who also faced this colonialism with Africa, they have moved away from mundane suckling on the host or colonial countries. Countries like India that was colonized by Britain, Dutch, Portugal French, they are almost competing with these countries economies or is it China that was also colonized by some of the mentioned countries like Britain, Portugal etc, they have very robust economy because they have moved away from that mindset of dependency but Africa have not yet done that, until they find a niche for themselves they will still be subservient in the league of nations.


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If Africans really wanted a restart, adopt decentralized government and adopt bitcoin as a national currency. Who controls the African people? Africans in government. They can't rely on the people they elect to maintain important affairs, so don't rely on them at all.

What do they have to lose?
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the western world may have left their Colonies in Africa but yet these African countries don't have absolute independence, how?
These western world no longer govern African countries anymor in person but they still do so indirectly through African leaders which is why upon their emergence as winners and heads of government they begin to tour round the western world which strikes my imagination to ask why the numerous visit to the west, then you begin to see the results of their visit through the nature of their inhumane policies and laws when they return back. That is a clear picture that what we see as government policies  is just a  mere fulfillment to achieve the agreement they had with their western "paymasters" who in return will grant them heavy loan request which they will eventually end up stealing from the country.
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No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality.
The dependence mentality was packaged well and sold to Africans and they bought it. More than a few African countries have been made to believe that they cannot function on their own without some very strong alliance with a country from the west which is more developed than they are. Why are African countries not dependent on other African countries that have what they need?, It is because the other African countries are dependent on other countries from the West because of what they have been made to believe too. Many African countries abandon their culture and beliefs to adopt the culture and beliefs of people from the West. When you abandon your culture and beliefs, it leaves the mindset that who you were, what you know and what you have always known is inferior to what you are adopting. If Africa had developed and involved in the original culture and beliefs they will be very strong and independent as some other continents are.
don't you believe that with up West African won't have be liberated, so it is the white that I have all the primary thing to do concerning African because they are the one that colonized them and it is said that African state authority from the British the West who will try to give them some inside of wisdom or knowledge
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No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality.
The dependence mentality was packaged well and sold to Africans and they bought it. More than a few African countries have been made to believe that they cannot function on their own without some very strong alliance with a country from the west which is more developed than they are. Why are African countries not dependent on other African countries that have what they need?, It is because the other African countries are dependent on other countries from the West because of what they have been made to believe too. Many African countries abandon their culture and beliefs to adopt the culture and beliefs of people from the West. When you abandon your culture and beliefs, it leaves the mindset that who you were, what you know and what you have always known is inferior to what you are adopting. If Africa had developed and involved in the original culture and beliefs they will be very strong and independent as some other continents are.
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I think that some former colonies in Africa (not all of them of course) are proving that colonisation was not the only problem, and that it cannot be the answer to all their ills.

Take the example of Vietnam, which was a French colony. Today, Vietnam has not a tenth of the problems of Mali, and is doing well.
The effect of colonialism and neo-colonialism is affecting the African economic, social, and political environment. But nothing is impossible. Africans can break free from these influences and attain development. If countries like Indonesia and Vietnam that suffered the same colonialism as other African country is moving forward, then there is hope for Africa.
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It's the lack of state structures and corruption that is eating away at some African countries day after day, not the colonies that ended 60 years ago.
Corruption is the biggest problem Africa has. When people claim that colonialism is the cause of Africa's underdeveloped, I ensure reorient them that the funds our leaders still will be enough to move many Africans out of the poverty line.

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But it's right, any African countries are in the process of throwing off Western influence. But what we should mention is that it is simply being replaced by Chinese and Russian influence in many cases.
Most Afeucan countries are heavily indebted to China while most countries are depending on Russian Miltary group Wagner for security. With these economic and military influences China and Russua are now able to influence the political and economic sector other these African nations.
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A lot of African countries have tons of ressources, it could be great if the politician leaders could use them in the global interest of theikeepries, and not keeping everything for themselves.
Until African nations get to the level of exploring, exploiting, and refining their raw materials into finished products they will forever be a raw material market. African nations need to promote local industrialization that will make Africa a selling and not a buying continent. Africa is a dumping ground for expired and substandard products because it can't produce even simple products.  Africa should stop being a mineral deposit of the developed world.
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The matter of African independence from the West is really a complex and multifaceted one: also it's important to mention that Africa is a diverse continent with more than 50 individual countries, each with its own unique history and challenges. While some countries have made significant strides in achieving greater independence, others continue to face various obstacles

my strictly personal opinon is that , generally speaking, several African countries have indeed gained political independence from Western colonial powers over the past century but what I think it is happening is more a switching of dependence from Western countries to Easteran ones. Let's hope am wrong on this.

No to "eastern" countries, specifically to China. Russia, France, U... these have been there for centuries, but now is China buying half of Africa. Will Africa be any better under the Chinese CPP influence? Unlikely, countries have interest not friends.

As someone mentioned, this is a lot about lots of different countries and conditions. Again "The West" is nothing, there is a wide variety an styles as well.
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The matter of African independence from the West is really a complex and multifaceted one: also it's important to mention that Africa is a diverse continent with more than 50 individual countries, each with its own unique history and challenges. While some countries have made significant strides in achieving greater independence, others continue to face various obstacles

my strictly personal opinon is that , generally speaking, several African countries have indeed gained political independence from Western colonial powers over the past century but what I think it is happening is more a switching of dependence from Western countries to Easteran ones. Let's hope am wrong on this.
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No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality. For some of the countries, they suffer a lot of under development due to greed and selfishness of the leaders, thus converting resources that would have bettered the country into their personal coffers.

Although, no man is an island, but Africa depends on the West more than they do themselves.

Perhaps you're right, though people would say that dependence came from imperialism in the first place. Imperialism isn't so bad. Bringing civility to barbaric societies that, historically, couldn't figure out how the wheel works seems like a blessing in disguise  Grin

The problem is, some of these African countries failed to adopt the new technologies imperialism has brought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyHbj_SHGA

Cultural incompatibilities is the culprit.

So all the situation in several African countries is all due to the bad white guys? When is Africa going to assume responsibility for not being able to live in peace? You know what France did to the kings? Cut their heads off and start a Republic, with people voting you know?, just as the US had to defeat the most powerful nation of the time to become free. You just need to start being committed to gain independence because there is certainly many people who are trying to keep you where you are.
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No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality. For some of the countries, they suffer a lot of under development due to greed and selfishness of the leaders, thus converting resources that would have bettered the country into their personal coffers.

Although, no man is an island, but Africa depends on the West more than they do themselves.

Perhaps you're right, though people would say that dependence came from imperialism in the first place. Imperialism isn't so bad. Bringing civility to barbaric societies that, historically, couldn't figure out how the wheel works seems like a blessing in disguise  Grin

The problem is, some of these African countries failed to adopt the new technologies imperialism has brought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyHbj_SHGA

Cultural incompatibilities is the culprit.
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No. The reason Africa can never be independent of the West is they still got that "dependence" mentality. For some of the countries, they suffer a lot of under development due to greed and selfishness of the leaders, thus converting resources that would have bettered the country into their personal coffers.

Although, no man is an island, but Africa depends on the West more than they do themselves.
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why are people always talking about the independent of Africa from the west? no continent can be sole independent from each other. the west are not self independent from Africa, they still needed our resource and services, so are African to the west.
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What about west Africa? Are they going also to gain independence "from the west".

Seriously, this post clearly an Eco of the Kremlin propaganda that aims to show "the West" as a enemy and as a block just to justify his aggression to Ukraine. The Russian Federation is, along with China, very active in Africa and creating more problems than any "western" country could ever think of. Quit the propaganda, people in here are smarter than this (I hope).
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I can't say that I'm an expert on the situation in Africa, but as a casual observer of what has been happening in South Africa as well as the rest of the continent, it seems like they have turned their back on the West only to jump in bed with China.  China is scooping up land and handing out loans like their future depends on it, and maybe it does.  The sad part is that I've been reading many cases where these loans have already gone bad, leading China to seemingly take advantage of Africa in order to collect more land.  Basically giving loans they know won't be paid back in order to take ownership of collateral. 
This is one of the major problem Africa as a continent is facing,the leaders will prefer to borrow loan from whoever is ready to give to them without thinking of the consequences and illness these loans will bring to their country economy. Africa leaders due to corruption and greed will collect loans and instead of using it to for business that will generate income and job opportunities for their citizens,they will distribute the money within themselves and after that these so call leaders will be removed from power and these loans will pile up and become a huge debt on the country. Since there is no good leader that takes over power,the new leader will not think of how to pay back these loans but instead they might want to collect another loan and use the countries means of survival for collateral to these loans. Trust China,they are smart and thinks only about themselves,they will give you the loans and hope that they will come and take over the country's property for a particular period of time for them to be able to get back their money. Africans fails have the insight of China's loan strategy.
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I can't say that I'm an expert on the situation in Africa, but as a casual observer of what has been happening in South Africa as well as the rest of the continent, it seems like they have turned their back on the West only to jump in bed with China.  China is scooping up land and handing out loans like their future depends on it, and maybe it does.  The sad part is that I've been reading many cases where these loans have already gone bad, leading China to seemingly take advantage of Africa in order to collect more land.  Basically giving loans they know won't be paid back in order to take ownership of collateral. 
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I think that some former colonies in Africa (not all of them of course) are proving that colonisation was not the only problem, and that it cannot be the answer to all their ills.

Take the example of Vietnam, which was a French colony. Today, Vietnam has not a tenth of the problems of Mali, and is doing well.

It's the lack of state structures and corruption that is eating away at some African countries day after day, not the colonies that ended 60 years ago.

But it's right, any African countries are in the process of throwing off Western influence. But what we should mention is that it is simply being replaced by Chinese and Russian influence in many cases.

A lot of African countries have tons of ressources, it could be great if the politician leaders could use them in the global interest of their countries, and not keeping everything for themselves.
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If we are honest on the situation between Africa and the Western powers, I would say that Africa is still very dependent both economically and culturally on the Western countries.

The end of the colonial era was just a baby step towards actual independence, the people of Africa and even in Latin America should take a look at countries like Japan, where the people can culturally sustain themselves.  Tongue
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There's one thing I want you guys to understand whenever we are talking of Africans and African is a continent not a country that fall under one particular country Africa is a continent that comprises different countries so having independent it come from different countries by different people who colonized them I am want some of us to understand this principle that Africa is a continent Africa is not a country in terms of definition
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African countries have gained political independence from their former colonial powers, but the legacy of colonialism still shapes many aspects of their societies and economies. While many African countries have made progress in terms of economic development, poverty reduction, and political stability, they still face significant challenges in fully realizing their potential.

One of the ongoing legacies of colonialism is economic dependence on former colonial powers and other developed nations. Many African countries continue to rely on exports of raw materials and commodities, which leaves them vulnerable to fluctuations in global commodity prices. In addition, many African countries still face significant debt burdens, which limit their ability to invest in infrastructure and social programs.

Another legacy of colonialism is the persistence of political instability and conflict in many African countries. This frequently has something to do with the arbitrary lines drawn by colonial powers, which split ethnic groups and led to conflicts that still exist today. In addition, many African countries have struggled to establish democratic governance systems that are free from corruption and political repression.

Finally, the legacy of colonialism has contributed to ongoing struggles for racial justice and equality, both within African countries and in the broader international community. Many African countries continue to face discrimination and marginalization on the global stage, and the ongoing legacy of colonialism has contributed to ongoing struggles for social and economic justice.
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