After ICO, the tokens sank in price. Why?

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

It means it will need times for the blockchain projects to keep developing.
And finally releasing the products that can be used by many peoples.
If this happening, then the token price will skyrocketing because the demands for using the token in their products.

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Quote from: libert19 on June 23, 2019, 10:34:09 PM

ICOs release their tokens without any real product where these tokens can be used, that results in dump on exchanges. Have good use case to tokens and keep them locked until products are rolled out to prevent massive drop.

What is the point in conducting an ICO, in case the tokens are to be locked in for a long duration? Nowadays a lot of projects do ICO, without any proper planning. Many of them initiate the proceedings even before 1% of the development is complete. It will be no surprise that in such cases the tokens drop by 90% or more upon listing (as we have seen from countless past listings). And the problem will be exacerbated if the promoters dump all their holdings and convert their tokens to fiat or ETH.

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ICOs release their tokens without any real product where these tokens can be used, that results in dump on exchanges. Have good use case to tokens and keep them locked until products are rolled out to prevent massive drop.

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most projects only seek profits, after they get a lot of money from investors then they put on the exchange and after that they leave the token without issuing real products.. they said if they were developing even up to 6 months they would still say SOON Cheesy

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hmph..

There is much reason why after ICO many tokens or coins fall when listed on the exchange. as far as I know,
1. The team is not serious about their projects.
2. No update of their projects
3. Investors lost their trust
4. Airdrop or bounty hunter sell tokens or coins whit low price.

And many reasons may I don't know.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

From my observations so far following the project is a lot of people who are too fast selling coins. Even investors and teams are holding large amounts of coins. It has been selling coins very quickly, thus affecting prices and prices falling directly.

To recover again requires the hard work of team and developer project in search of investors again. And the price drop after the ICO is now becoming very reasonable.

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On the papers, product isn't matured, there's exclusive discount for early buyer that could instant profit, or investors changed their mind over many factors, or simply too much supply is released and most of the people aren't waiting to hodl long term. Some owners controlled the supply for exchange to maintain some form of liquidity. Yet these are effort prevent the value from crashing. You can't expect a not so popular coin to perform with a solid reason

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Its so obvious isn't it? The only reason why after ICO, the tokens sink in price is that investors sell off their tokens once ICO sale is over just to avoid holding shit coins.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Well, you're still new to the thing. That's how it used to be for most of the ICO. You should ask yourself why investors are now fond of selling their tokens once the ICO sales is over. That's because they want to be holding shit coins. People only go for it at first and they are being hyped to the extent they will grow during the ICO but after the ICO the price will start falling and if you continue holding those coins you will just end up as the loser there cause hardly will anyone buy those coins and they are going to keep falling. So it's up to you whether you want to start doing the same thing like others do, or just stay off from them completely.

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Quote from: FOPL on June 17, 2019, 04:23:11 PM

it simply means the project will die out eventually. This might be due to lack of working product, token utility, and no better token economics

It was all just a useless token being hyped up just to increase the price to gather more investors but after a certain period, you will just going to notice that the price starting to dump. That's why we all need to do our own research first if we want to see a potential coin growing not those bunch of shit coins.

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First, maybe The team didn't serious about their project, i mean they just think about how to get money fast. 2nd, it dumped buy bounty hunters and some investors who sold their bonuses that they bought it when ico pre-sale. They usually sold the ICO coin/token with low prices.

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I do believe it is because there are to many Pre ICOs and Bounty Hunters.

What do i mean with that exactly. If you sell tokens on a 30% discount the investor will sell those tokens with a almost guaranteed profit on the day of the launch on an exchange. The Bounty hunters might do the same at the same time to get still some money out for their free tokens.

If you calculate that all together it is definitely one of the main reasons the prices sink after an ICO. As i plan my own ICO currently, we have the same discussion and believe that Bounty Hunters should only get a max. of 5% of the total token supply, furthermore there is no PRE ICO with big discounts. Thats currently the only solution i see, to keep the token stable and potentially gaining momentum after an exchange launch

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 16, 2019, 02:05:50 AM

3 words. To Take Profit.

This is the main reason why all of the ICO always sank in price. Bounty hunters, investors and even the team itself sell the tokens to get some profit making the price plummet. After that, it will depend on the team if they will continue the project or not. If they will continue then well and good but if it is not then it will be a scam and those who sold their tokens and got their profit are happy Cheesy

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Why people cant really realize on whats the main purpose or reason why we do invest into projects?For profits indeed.
Selling everything which way more higher price than on their purchased price.The sad thing is here that most dev or owners
are the ones who do majorly dump of their own tokens for the sake of taking money out of its investors which simply turns out to be a scam.

Definitely, this is right. The fact that bounty hunters are always a profit hunter, not a holder maybe there are some but usually to them they are going to sell token after listing in the market and of course that may cause of the price sank and might can't recover and become a shit project. Good thing if the project had a buyback strategy to their bounty hunters that for sure after listing they will sell. But all of these will depend on the project if how worth it is this.

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Quote from: tukagero on June 20, 2019, 07:45:04 AM

Quote from: FOPL on June 17, 2019, 04:23:11 PM

it simply means the project will die out eventually. This might be due to lack of working product, token utility, and no better token economics

thats the few reason why a token sank after getting listed on exchanges, you forgot to mention " team dont have enough money to continue the project or else the team is consist of scammers.

Nowadays to get allocation information is easily accessible in internet. So that is used not a matter here for the reasons of tokens sinking. Then if the team is come they will not go to list that tokens on any good exchanges.
When the time by limits for the tokens in the exchanges has been reduced, we will find the the price changes to low in coming days.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Real production and growth means what you are trying to say about it exactly?
Normally every ICO project collect the funds from the invested at the period of token sale and after some cooling period devil list their tokens on any exchanges. At the time of listing or before that most probably investors and their marketing participants will receive the tokens. Since the value fluctuation heavily impacted coin value will be fall down.

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Quote from: FOPL on June 17, 2019, 04:23:11 PM

it simply means the project will die out eventually. This might be due to lack of working product, token utility, and no better token economics

thats the few reason why a token sank after getting listed on exchanges, you forgot to mention " team dont have enough money to continue the project or else the team is consist of scammers.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Well, hype gone and the demand gone. If a token/coin does not have real value then they will fall. Out of the few thousands of crypto in coinmarketcap you will find 99% of them are useless. So do not expect much.

The same is going to happen with these IEO hype too.

Only 2% of the coins in CMC are real, many coins are only for hype. Many projects are just listing their tokens at exchange because of their funds raised during ICO. And scammers made it to have more profits with their investors. When they hyped the coin, soon it will die because there is no product. At the end, we bought the shitcoins for the rest of our life

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it simply means the project will die out eventually. This might be due to lack of working product, token utility, and no better token economics

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 16, 2019, 02:05:50 AM

3 words. To Take Profit.

This is the main reason why all of the ICO always sank in price. Bounty hunters, investors and even the team itself sell the tokens to get some profit making the price plummet. After that, it will depend on the team if they will continue the project or not. If they will continue then well and good but if it is not then it will be a scam and those who sold their tokens and got their profit are happy Cheesy

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Why people cant really realize on whats the main purpose or reason why we do invest into projects?For profits indeed.
Selling everything which way more higher price than on their purchased price.The sad thing is here that most dev or owners
are the ones who do majorly dump of their own tokens for the sake of taking money out of its investors which simply turns out to be a scam.

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Most of these ICOs are project to solve Internet problems and many of these ICOs have the illusion that your project will have a lot of demand, what happens is the following:

during the ICO only the investors and the bounty hunters know the project, and when the project is listed in some exchange, they do not have demand, it has no new buyers... everything that follows is:

investors, bounty hunters and Dev's sell their coins. and the same investors and bounty hunters come back to buy it again when the price is low and the cycle repeats itself

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Obviously that was just hype without real background. Bad judgement and project that had no future and ICO showed the real picture. Unfortunately there are too many such projects where developers are just greedy for profit and at the end users lose their money. No real business case, no money, that is how it's functioning, don't forget that so be very careful which coin.you choose.

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Thats a normal thing that happen when a.coin is listed on its first exchange. Holders will cashout thier profit to invest in another project while other want to acculate more and they want the price to go down.

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It is not the absent of use cases that makes the token listed to fall. Some project use to give insane bonus up to 70% off the ICO price without locking period for whale investors, so they dump when it get listed on any exchange. Similar things will still occur to this emergence of IEO of a thing.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

For a coin to be successful there has to be a use case for it. Without any practical use, only the hype and news cannot make the coin valuale in the long run. Most ICO coins have no real use case and are made to collect money only from the investors.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

It means that ICO token price becomes weak if it hits in exchange. A lot of ICO sank after the fund raising because they don't have development. It is hard for an ICO to maintain its price during their public sale up to exchange. They blame bounty hunters for selling coins in a low price. We will not sell in a price that we are also lose, the price dictates by initiator.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 16, 2019, 02:05:50 AM

3 words. To Take Profit.

This is the main reason why all of the ICO always sank in price. Bounty hunters, investors and even the team itself sell the tokens to get some profit making the price plummet. After that, it will depend on the team if they will continue the project or not. If they will continue then well and good but if it is not then it will be a scam and those who sold their tokens and got their profit are happy Cheesy

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I agree that price dump after ICO caused by taking profit, but the question is/are who. I am not sure if bounty hunters as a party to cause the price until huge dump, it can be calculated not too be sure. Their tokens received from bounty just in small amount refer to the circulating supply after ICO.

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3 words. To Take Profit.

This is the main reason why all of the ICO always sank in price. Bounty hunters, investors and even the team itself sell the tokens to get some profit making the price plummet. After that, it will depend on the team if they will continue the project or not. If they will continue then well and good but if it is not then it will be a scam and those who sold their tokens and got their profit are happy Cheesy

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

One simple answer.If a project didn't present any working product after they had raised millions of dollars and being traded on exchangers are really shit ones.
Expect for it to bite to the ground later on.Only those projects who do have potential or actual usage will sustain.

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Quote from: Indamuck on June 12, 2019, 12:21:19 PM

Most projects have no real development and they are just hype. Developers are in it for a quick profit and as soon as the first pump or exchange listing happens they are exiting. I don't want to lump every project in the same boat because there are some honest devs out there though.

And the result is will give a negative impact for crypto industry, a newcomers will consider that cryptocurrency especially for new project as a junk and have no future. The more people who feel the loss from the results of ICO investment, then the more negative appraisements for cryptocurrency. I think this impact will have an effect on the overall condition of the market cryptocurrencies not only on the ICO.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

This is not new and I believe it only started because of the bear market. And this is also the reason why many projects shifted to IEOs and I was suprised that it succeed and made investing in startups alive again. Even the not so popular exchanges that lauched their IEOs have made their IEO price stable after listing and it did not go below than that.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

That's how it's been. After the ICO bounty hunters will sell their tokens, cause none of them are ready to hold it, they will just sell it for a coin they think is better. This time around it has become a normal thing for both the investors and the hunters, once the ICO is over, majority of them will sell their coins, causing the price rate of the tokens to drop. The same thing is what we are now seeing in IEO as well, people are now dumping IEO immediately the project is over they will sell their coins. It's become a normal thing, only coins that has a strong vision and able to make investors believe in them can survive such things.

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Most projects have no real development and they are just hype. Developers are in it for a quick profit and as soon as the first pump or exchange listing happens they are exiting. I don't want to lump every project in the same boat because there are some honest devs out there though.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.

no growth because they don't actually have anything to grow/develop
most ICOs are just like a hyip scheme collecting money without actual working projects
most investors are in it for quick profit when they sell it as soon as the coin/token gets into an exchange

otoh, an ICO for a well established business will likely to earn success and stay for a long time
a real business and a real use of its coin/token is what makes that coin/token to have real value

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Some says bounty hunters dump thier tokens thats why the price sank, other says its the investors that wants to have thier immediate profit. No matter what is the reason behind it, if you have trust and have faith on the project the coin will surely go up. All i know panic selling is the root why ico price are down.

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That's how the market works, I mean yes they have raised tens of millions for ICO but at the back of our minds we all know that investors will simply dump it to get their profits. And with the number of ICO's/IEO's popping around, is so easy for investors to pull the pump-and-dump and then go on the next coins. I don't know what are the statistics, but I'm pretty sure that even a successful ICO can't withstand the dumping specially when it is listed on an exchange. Unless though they can really offer something different that can disrupt fields in medicine or pharmaceutical, it will be very difficult to maintain their ICO price.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on June 08, 2019, 03:39:27 AM

Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Well, hype gone and the demand gone. If a token/coin does not have real value then they will fall. Out of the few thousands of crypto in coinmarketcap you will find 99% of them are useless. So do not expect much.

The same is going to happen with these IEO hype too.

In my opinion, some tokens is used only during ICOs and after that, none. It has no real use at all, so who will get interested on buying it if it has no usage? Of course none. Once the holders knew that it is useless then they gonna sell it and this cause dump, lowering its value. This is assuming that the token is already listed.

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Not just because of hype.

In the first day of market listing, the tokens will test their foundation. The early phase is critical because that's where volume will be form. If no such thing as good price movement or let's say a decent volume that worth to put a shot during the early phase (for let's say a maximum of weeks to few months), expect investors will minimize their losses.

Exchanges where it got listed also plays a big role. Without a decent exchange, surely no additional traders will test the waters for this tokens.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

There could be many reasons for the price to go down after listing.
- Don't have real product or service - ICO succeeded due to HYPE
- Fake promises months after months - investors start to dump
- owners dumping and so on.

And sometimes the project is good, but the promises they made come too late that investors/supporters lose their patience.

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FOr me, if that is ICO is at the market, it is hard to gather traders. Campaigns and other advertising might not work at all so they have to influence some traders, after they have that much traders, the price would increase if they see if profitable enough.

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This has become accustomed to occur after the ICO project successed to become a promising investment place in 2017. They (investor ICO) assumed that every money he invests will increase with a very large amount but they don't niticed to the function of the project itself for the future so that when the market crashes (which can happen at any time) the price of the project will decrease because there is nothing can make the project last long. And also the mindset of instant profit always approaches on their brains, so when the project is successfully listed on an exchange then they will sell all of these tokens without leaving one a bit and make the price drop dramatically.

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Most of the new only like alts,tokens then this will grow atleast for 2 months and after that this will really drops until turn to shitcoin

Then that's because users,traders and investors sell their alts/tokens little by little when this is already list in trading site and actually for me that's better to do if the project is not that good like base in their copy plan that most of the alts/tokens turn scam or hack then shitcoin

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Simple. Investors, bounty hunters and the team themselves will sell their coins to gain profit.

Who in the hell will hold their coins when you know already that when the token is listed on any exchange, it will always plummet. Law of supply and demand. Supply increases, price decreases and vice versa. That is what is happening on every ICO.

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It means that the project is just a hype, then investors get on-board trying to make money out it and when the tokens is listed on an exchange, they suddenly dump their tokens book there profits and go on the next hype train. So that's how most of the projects are now right now, although there's proof that a project might succeed in the future like BNB, but it's an exception, in my opinion.

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It happens in the stock market all the time. Uber and Lyft were massively hyped IPOs, yet both were recently trading below their IPO price. Often times, company performance doesn't live up to the hype. This is especially true with ICO companies, who were often peddling vaporware and unsustainable business models. After the hype ends, the hangover comes.

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ICO is only used as a means to enrich a group of people, I regret this and some ICOs disappear after reaching hardcap. It's very bad and it's time for everyone to realize that ICO isn't the best choice for investment.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 08, 2019, 04:50:59 PM

People always think their ICO will be the next bitcoin before they invest.

Yup. Most are driven by the hype, don't look that the projects, although they have a valid team, either have no usability at all, either "cover" a direction already covered by many other projects, either the project status is not as great as hyped (and may not really advance in the "next" months)... The reality is unveiled after the hype is over.
In some cases there's even a manipulation. Some traders use to buy ICO tokens after the ICO has ended, when the price is not artificially inflated anymore, or it's even lower than the actual worth.
Some big role may also have the inexperienced crypto investors that have no idea how to invest and have no patience at all; they'll see the price drop and they'll panic sell.

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People always think their ICO will be the next bitcoin before they invest. After they invest the reality hits them in the head:

There are hundreds of those next big thing ICO's out there.

Once they realize how they fucked it up, they panic and try to get out as soon as possible.

This is just basic "pig" investor thinking. They always get slaughtered.

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When the price is going down, there's no other thing that you can think of but it's all about the dump. Investors of that token started to dump altogether and probably including the developers of it. Because they have had enough money from the ICO so it's time for them to rake profits.

Are you new to this kind of market? it has been done by those ICO creators many times. And you know what? after they do a "successful" project, they'll just jump to one another to have another ICO, it's just a cycle, they rinse and repeat.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Get used to it and this is how this market works.Only good projects will able to survive after that sudden dump in price because any coins that its being listed on an exchange do have that kind of normal route on slapping its price to the floor and die most of the time.Some might revive but only a few of numbers who do have actual potential for long term but the rest are just total garbage.

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Some worst projects also get the hype in the market and when it came to exchange we can understand the real demand over that coin. Please look after some cheap coins which does not having real product or anything. In that some whale investors use to put theri fund so little projects like that get the name egen they don't have anything.

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Quote from: Pleasuremodel on June 08, 2019, 03:32:48 AM

As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
What does it mean?

Well, hype gone and the demand gone. If a token/coin does not have real value then they will fall. Out of the few thousands of crypto in coinmarketcap you will find 99% of them are useless. So do not expect much.

The same is going to happen with these IEO hype too.

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As a rule, most blockchain- projects that have collected tens of millions of dollars for ICO, issue tokens on the exchange without real production growth.
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