Topic: after the denial of the ETF , what will be the next hype train to jump onboard? (Read 2151 times)

This is not good at all that BU had bugs and is unfit. BItcoin needs to scale. So the only option is to active Segwit or we will go down a lot.

I think the next battle is going to be segwit vs BU, it seems the debate is getting hotter by what I see in the forum and since no solution is close to get the support needed then that will only spark more debate as time passes.

We are already seeing a steady increase and quick recovery. The demand seems to pick up even more, and the market cap of $20B could be just a thing of the past a few months from now. If only things could be worked out to lessen transaction fees and at the same time transactions made faster, the train will not stop at $2000 this year.

there is still a lot more hashrate needed for that. and it is going to take a very long time to get there.

but i agree that when this block size debate is finally behind us and some time passes we will see a huge price rise because it is one of the things keeping bitcoin and also its adoption back and on top of that things like this are always considered good news and can cause FOMO leading to a bigger rise.

I sure hope so because when I had 0.0165btc sent to a wallet who calculates its own amount of the tx fee to send. I had started with $20.25 to begin with (it shows the amount in USD) then after I sent it out from this wallet it ended up sending $19.63 in total taking off 0.0005btc for their transaction fee they refer to as the fee that those miner's charge to send out the transaction that they get none of.
So that is $0.62 in fees alone.
That is a huge amount to charge and I know it is all relevant to the current price of what bitcoin is but still.
I remember when it was $0.14-0.16 for this exact same amount just a few months ago at the end of last year.
What happened all the sudden?
If you had this happen to you then you might start to agree that something like BitcoinUnlimited needs to start being looked at because the miner's on the blockchain are able to charge what ever they like even for those wallets that allow you to modify that fee before sending there is still a limit before they don't allow it to be sent.
And that to me is a monopoly and they know this to be true so they will keep raising those fees cause they know they don't have any competition that is being taken seriously.
Starting to look into BU a like more now as an alternative to having to use the blockchain for my bitcoin transactions all the sudden after this noticable failure with the way things work as they stand now.

Bitcoin Unlimited will execute a proper and successful protocol upgrade with super consensus. TX fees will go down dramatically, Bitcoin scales to meet the demand. Value goes up a lot because value actually went down when the block size debate started. When it ends the value will recover.

Hard to say what the next hype would be, but the entire ETF hype seems to be over even when there are some upcoming ETFs. All of the upcoming ETFs have a high chance to get rejected as well. So, bitcoin can see a gradual appreciation on steady user base growth and even some hype with any economic data or news that are coming up.

This train is just getting started.  A small percentage of the world has even heard of Bitcoin.  A small percentage of them have read the whitepaper and understood its implications.

All I'm saying is if Bitcoin itself isn't exciting enough for you and you need to look for some other source of hype than maybe this isn't the market for you.  TSLA is a good market to ride the hype-train.  If you do want to stick around, learn all you can about bitcoin until you realize that it is an unstoppable juggernaut that will provide people living in places with high inflation a way to preserve value over time.  It will do this in a way that can't be regulated or censored.  That is the real value of Bitcoin.

But this train already passed as we know this but bitcoin is the king of this world surely will survive.

Next hype train: Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

are there any interresting sources to get a hold on blockchain technology and projects revolving arround them ?

Pick your poison :

Kim Dotcom's Megaupload 2.0 file-sharing service running on micropayments. 

or

http://www.augmentorsgame.com/ - The Killer App/Game we are all waiting for.. 

There are so many exiting projects being developed for Bitcoin now, it is just crazy ... We are also seeing a lot of projects based on the Blockchain

and not just using the currency token. 

Well; it didnt burst slowly lol 3 min was enough. I took a piss and bitcoin was worth 200$ less lol

In other words, they didn't like bitcoin for being a decentralized currency. Bitcoin is out of their reach and they didn't like it. If you think a little bit harder, that decision means nothing. (both sides by the way: yes/no) If the answer was "yes" than it would have created only another fake pump. Now we know the answer is "no", the hype bubble is going to burst slowly, till there is another.

It is rejected not because it is associated with scam or money laundering, it is because it cannot be regulated. If it cannot be regulated, they cannot protect the investors. That is why, all other ETF in the future will also fail unless they change the nature of bitcoin.

After ETF, next one along the tracks is the WTF Bitcoin?! moon train.

Satoshi is the creator and they want to tell you it was from Japan with that name so it is already hyped in Japan.
If another few exchanges open up there and have a clause endorsed to guarantee not ever to be able to lock customer's funds into those exchanges. Then it will be theirs for the taking over from China's monopoly on bitcoin's exchange and possible mining market from then on in.
They will invest as much if not more than China had into those techonologies and infrastructures to get it off the ground in their favor and not just hope for fortune to happen to veer their way like China had in the past 8 years.

Hahahaha that was rough. Also, their fund was made of bitcoins so.... I don't really see how it was them screwing up. I guess it could have been presented differently but it still would have been the same decision because they aren't regulated. That's what the SEC wanted to see.

Also, China isn't an event rofl. What the fuck?


That's clearly not real gold rofl. It's all Canadian quarters dimes and nickels and pennies that someone happened to tint gold. Try again!!

no civilization without internet or electricity
open an humanity history book (electricity is about 100 years, internet 20 years, gold 5000 years)

History doesn't say so.  Check out what happened in the time period where wwI and wwII happened. Gold is the only viable currency in such scenario. People burned their fiat just to get warm. Bitcoin will be literally worthless in a world war. Because you won't able to access internet. Luckily, gold is an offline currency. And more importantly, they are shiny. Everybody likes shiny things. Ask Gollum. He knows the best.

I agree, its a part of the techinal issue's thats negative for bitcoin. It will not cause to a massive flash dump but to a bear market for years. Technical issue's can really damage bitcoin. Bitcoin need to build a reputation of trust.                                                                       To many people that i know are still too scared to invest in Bitcoin. So Bitcoin cant have technical issue's happening in this stage of development. It could be deadly.

In a nuclear holocaust gold coins are useless. In fact, there are 0 scenarios where gold coins can be useful if bitcoin isn't useful. If bitcoin is dead due the internet and electricity is dead, gold is also dead since no internet and no electricity means no civilization.

The next hype will be Japan.

Good readup, but I think I would add in negative events incoming, the fact that we have this prick Jihan Wu along with Roger Ver trying to push their BU agenda which would potentially set back bitcoin 3 or 4 years in a hashrate mining war.

I hope Core wins at the end, otherwise I may be forced to dump everything. Im not trusting my money in BUcoin.

One reason for the rejection is that the market is manipulated by the Chinese. But in the near future, the Chinese exchanges will be regulated properly. The trading volume has reduced a lot there.

"One commenter states that, since 2013, the price of bitcoin has been defined mostly by the major Chinese exchanges, whose volumes dwarf those of exchanges outside China. According to the commenter, those exchanges are not regulated or audited, and are suspected of engaging in unethical practices like front-running, wash trades, and trading with insufficient funds. The commenter interprets pricing data from these Chinese exchanges to mean that the price of bitcoin is defined entirely by speculation, without any ties to fundamentals.32 Another commenter also observes that Chinese markets drive much of the volume in the bitcoin markets and that the bitcoin/Chinese Yuan (BTC/CNY) quote is apt to trade at a significant premium to the bitcoin/U.S. dollar (BTC/USD) quote. The commenter points out that large arbitrage opportunities would not exist for long in efficient markets, but they do persist in bitcoin markets."

Time to hype for Gold Coins. I don't mean that digital crap, 1's&0's by the way. I mean real physical gold coins which you can hold in your hands. Liek this:


Damn this picture itself makes me drool.

Winklevoss twins are not enemies. They did the right thing
And rejection looks good for me at least i got to know bitcoin is not dependent upon someone's decision of something

if you don't know what ENS is then you have no right to be in this forum.

ENS is the sun, the moon and the stars here. nothing, i repeat nothing, happens without ENS.

and i don't know what it is either.

What is ENS ?

We are focussing on ENS and the price is currently on the stable line. And the price will be recover again.

Ah yes. Almost forgot about the sleepy heads. They are about to wake up and get more of a spring in their step for the U.S failed another opportunity to take advantage on their bitcoin hedge funds.

Why does everyone wait for some US government agency to dictate the price? Chinese exchanges, Chinese bans, now American government, these are only excuses to create waves out of nothing and make money off them. Don't panic and stop following the crowd. If you want to buy, buy if you want to sell, sell. Decide for yourselves don't let others manipulate you.

There is still the drama about the Chinese exchanges and whether they will allow bitcoin withdrawals. Recall they were supposed to allow withdrawals this week, but have postponed things.

How to get bitcoin unlimited to work for it's users.

So then by that logic the SEC can't be associated with USD which is the currency used the most for those types of crimes.


Right? 

I believe there is some positive news coming out of Japan in April.

Yep, the SEC is clearly doesn't think that Bitcoin is a viable investment due to its association with scams and money laundering.  This isn't something that can just be fixed, in their minds, overnight.

Failing winklesucks twins? They did and still are doing ALLOT for bitcoin and his future. In no way they are an enemy of bitcoin.....

* That dump we saw are just those winklesucks twins that dumped their coins and start a job at Mac donalds. They failed with facebook and with bitcoin, they really really suck.

Well.

POSITIVE EVENTS INCOMING :

- weak failing euro
- weak failing Yuan
- weak failing fiat money in general
- elections europe
- increasing demand worldwide, newbies with big nuts will get on board in this little dip and hold because otherwise they lose money
- decreasing volatility
- market woud be fully recovered in just a week
- Trump policy will cause borders that we can overcome with btc

NEGATIVE EVENTS INCOMING ;

- China
- What will happen with BTC in USA ? Reputation damaged ?
- technical issues
- altcoin taking over now BTC is wounded ?

So still get hyped and buy more.

Nobody can stop btc , not Gox, not Pboc , not failing Winklesucks twins.

Btc will defeat all enemy's.

All applications are dead in the water. None of them can do anything to address the fundamental nature of BTC that the rejection picked up on.

actually the current market reaction looks pretty solid , ie the recovery may happen this weekend  

Another reverse hype train - scaling (or lack of)

but but , where do i get my free WIFI , to buy some coins if the nuclear holocaust is apon us ? let alone electricity  

Next ETF is on march 30 , the solid X ETF.

Prepare for battle !

Lets recover to 1200 first.
That would take 2 days.

WWIII.

fellas


what is the next 'hype" on the horizon , good or bad ?

hard fork? , BU vs. Segwit ? , another ETF ? , something else ?