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Topic: Agreement to pay johnblaze 1BTC (Read 1798 times)
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Excuse me? No, you're still pretty bad.
You're excused. "Down to my level" means I that yes -- I am pretty fucking bad. What am I missing here? All I was saying is that he has come down to the same level as me, refusing to come to an agreement because of emotional issues. Quite an interesting experiment.
Hey CanadianGuy, why don't you come FULL CIRCLE on your "experiment" here, and pay JohnBlaze, and see what happens!
I am really curious!
You are also correct on that there are 'bad' or shall I say, ASSHOLE Canadians on this planet... you definitely seem like one of them...
Okay, maybe not totally "asshole" but definitely a "bad-asshole" more than a badass.
Please entertain us, pay JohnBlaze, and lets see what happens here!
Test the system!
LOL
thanks for pointing that out WuLabsWuTecH
no, he did not pay me. you can easily verify by searching blockchain.info with the address i posted in the bet thread
even bigger lols to @bitwhizz and @firefop for trying to defend this guy. now he is blatantly lying in the feedback that he is posting about me.
thanks for pointing that out WuLabsWuTecH
no, he did not pay me. you can easily verify by searching blockchain.info with the address i posted in the bet thread
even bigger lols to @bitwhizz and @firefop for trying to defend this guy. now he is blatantly lying in the feedback that he is posting about me.
Just saw this on your trust page. Did he pay you already? Or is it just more lies?
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I sent him 1BTC after acknowledgement of missed payment and he acted like he never got it. Since then him and his friends have added scammer tags to my profile. He is obviously trying to squeeze another 1 BTC out of me.
another bitcointalk'er not knowing what ethics are. perhaps you should actually read both threads in full before jumping to conclusions
in case you haven't noticed, DiamondCardz has since rectified the mistake of his that you quoted, realizing the scam that this guy is trying to pull off
i never tried to use anyone's reputation to do anything. get your facts straight. all i did was post a thread exposing a scammer for what he is. everyone acted appropriately in response.
in case you haven't noticed, DiamondCardz has since rectified the mistake of his that you quoted, realizing the scam that this guy is trying to pull off
i never tried to use anyone's reputation to do anything. get your facts straight. all i did was post a thread exposing a scammer for what he is. everyone acted appropriately in response.
I do not agree with your decision to leave the feedback even if he pays you, you're really being sour.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
Finally some ethics showing through.
To all the rest of you (most especially tradefortress) - you let one asshat use your reputation and/or goodname to attack another asshat... and imo its cost you must more than the effort was worth.
A scammer tag is long overdue at this point.
i think given his actions, other members should be warned about his potential behavior, regardless of the outcome of my particular case
For reference, what BadBear witnessed is still valid. Untrusted feedback does not mean much anyway if you get positive trusted feedback, @CanadianGuy.
he actually deserves a second negative feedback, this time referencing this thread, for trying to hold the funds hostage and make demands as if he is doing us all a favor to release the coin
Canadianguy +1btc
Johnblaze -1btc
final score
Johnblaze -1btc
final score
I think this thread is enough to get you scammer tagged, in fact.
you forgot the rest of the score
CanadianGuy
Trust: -14: -3 / +0(0)
CanadianGuy
Trust: -14: -3 / +0(0)
K, I know what scamming is, dude.
yes, but do you realize what the reputation system is for? how can you say that i'm being an ass by leaving my feedback? obviously if he pays me, i will change the feedback from "scammed me" to something like "potential scammer who will hold your funds hostage conditional upon other demands".
whether he pays me or not, his reputation already speaks for itself. hell, he ADMITS TO SCAMMING lol
he has come down to my level, basically..
Excuse me? No, you're still pretty bad. Maybe I shouldn't have left. Back to the shitcan with your trust.
Do I think what he's done is ok? No, I think it's very immoral. But if someone offers to make up with you for a $100 bet, that you might have never paid out, shown by your failure to use escrow, and you still say you'll ruin their rep? That's being an ass.
lol, the funny thing is, this scammer has actually confused you so much that you are falling for his tricks
when you make a deal (a bet in this case), you are obligated to uphold your end, otherwise you are a scammer. you do not get to negotiate if and how you will uphold your end. you either do it or you dont.
he hasn't and he won't.
his reputation SHOULD be ruined, regardless if he pays me or not. suppose he engages in another deal with another forum member. the other member pays him for something. he turns around and says that he will not uphold his end unless X, X, and X other demands are met. lol i can't believe this even needs to be said
K, I know what scamming is, dude.
Do I think what he's done is ok? No, I think it's very immoral. But if someone offers to make up with you for a $100 bet, that you might have never paid out, shown by your failure to use escrow, and you still say you'll ruin their rep? That's being an ass.
lol, the funny thing is, this scammer has actually confused you so much that you are falling for his tricks
when you make a deal (a bet in this case), you are obligated to uphold your end, otherwise you are a scammer. you do not get to negotiate if and how you will uphold your end. you either do it or you dont.
he hasn't and he won't.
his reputation SHOULD be ruined, regardless if he pays me or not. suppose he engages in another deal with another forum member. the other member pays him for something. he turns around and says that he will not uphold his end unless X, X, and X other demands are met. lol i can't believe this even needs to be said
I do not agree with your decision to leave the feedback even if he pays you, you're really being sour.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
you must think its ok for a scammer to scam and hold the funds hostage until his demands are met.
bitcointalk logic at its finest. see my example posted above:
apparently you think this is how it works: "ok you've paid me 10 btc to build you a website, thanks. now i will only build that website for you if you leave me good feedback. if you don't leave good feedback, then i will not give you anything and i will openly and admittedly scam you."
[/quote]Do I think what he's done is ok? No, I think it's very immoral. But if someone offers to make up with you for a $100 bet, that you might have never paid out, shown by your failure to use escrow, and you still say you'll ruin their rep? That's being an ass.
I removed the negative rep because I don't want to be involved any more, he still has the TWC mark because of TradeFortress, so not much has changed.
I have the choice of sending you 1BTC or not, so that puts me in the position of negotiation, whether it is morally flawed or not.
likewise, i have the choice of leaving my feedback or not
you admit its morally flawed because you know you are scamming me.
I do not agree with your decision to leave the feedback even if he pays you, you're really being sour.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
you must think its ok for a scammer to scam and hold the funds hostage until his demands are met.
bitcointalk logic at its finest. see my example posted above:
apparently you think this is how it works: "ok you've paid me 10 btc to build you a website, thanks. now i will only build that website for you if you leave me good feedback. if you don't leave good feedback, then i will not give you anything and i will openly and admittedly scam you."
I wasn't demanding, I was negotiating. Theres something johnblaze wants and theres something I want.
It is obvious we have not come to an agreement. Discussion ends.
yes you were demanding. and in either case, you do not get to negotiate which deals you scam and which deals you make good on
you either make good on ALL deals, otherwise you are a scammer
you proved my accusation correct, and your feedback reflects that
I do not agree with your decision to leave the feedback even if he pays you, you're really being sour.
The feedback on CanadianGuy has been removed, I no longer wish to be involved in this.
I wasn't demanding, I was negotiating. Theres something johnblaze wants and theres something I want.
It is obvious we have not come to an agreement. Discussion ends.
yes you were demanding. and in either case, you do not get to negotiate which deals you scam and which deals you make good on
you either make good on ALL deals, otherwise you are a scammer
you proved my accusation correct, and your feedback reflects that
what about all the untrusted feedback? I want that gone too.. it's funny how everybody's actions are the only thing stopping me from making payment. Kind of ironic..
You are not in the position of "demanding" anything.You are a scammer and you got the tag you deserve.
This was caused by your actions and your behaviour.
You confirm deserving this tag more and more every post you make...
indeed
even if i do get paid, i am no longer removing my feedback
what about all the untrusted feedback? I want that gone too.. it's funny how everybody's actions are the only thing stopping me from making payment. Kind of ironic..
apparently you think this is how it works: "ok you've paid me 10 btc to build you a website, thanks. now i will only build that website for you if you leave me good feedback. if you don't leave good feedback, then i will not give you anything and i will openly and admittedly scam you."
sorry pal
this sounds like way too much trouble -- it shows how this scammer tag system is flawed. I am not going to ask every individual who has absolutely nothing to do with this case to remove the tags. If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
You confirm deserving this tag more and more every post you make...+1
this sounds like way too much trouble -- it shows how this scammer tag system is flawed. I am not going to ask every individual who has absolutely nothing to do with this case to remove the tags. If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
You confirm deserving this tag more and more every post you make...
Quote this for posterity.
I will remove the trusted negative rating if you provide proof of you paying johnblaze, or if johnblaze says he was paid 1 BTC.
I will remove the trusted negative rating if you provide proof of you paying johnblaze, or if johnblaze says he was paid 1 BTC.
this sounds like way too much trouble -- it shows how this scammer tag system is flawed. I am not going to ask every individual who has absolutely nothing to do with this case to remove the tags. If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
Pay johnblaze 1 BTC publicly, and I'll remove my rating and PM DiamondCardz to remove his. Witnessed.
Quote this for posterity.
I will remove the trusted negative rating if you provide proof of you paying johnblaze, or if johnblaze says he was paid 1 BTC.
I will remove the trusted negative rating if you provide proof of you paying johnblaze, or if johnblaze says he was paid 1 BTC.
not surprisingly, you conveniently ignore everything that you can't defend against
you've done it for 3 days straight
you've done it for 3 days straight
If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
lol, so everyone has to cater to you? you must have forgotten that you are the scammer here. you should repay your debt first and then beg everyone to remove their feedback
I'm not going to do it. There are more than 2 tags. I will only do it if they all go away.
so you will only be a non-scammer if certain conditions are met? otherwise you are ok being a scammer?
first, you admit that you scammed me and you are ok with it because i hurt your feelings and called you what you were. if the shoe fits, wear it.
now, you continue to perpetuate your scamming tendencies and are making demands that you will only make good if your certain conditions are met to remove the bad feedback. thats not how it works.
you have it backwards. first you complete your deals, and only afterwards you receive the appropriate feedback. apparently you think this is how it works: "ok you've paid me 10 btc to build you a website, thanks. now i will only build that website for you if you leave me good feedback. if you don't leave good feedback, then i will not give you anything and i will openly and admittedly scam you."
you're doing it wrong.
its looking like you deserve the scammer tag whether you pay the 1 btc or not. now you're trying to scam the feedback system
once a scammer, always a scammer
If this is about the -9: -2 / +0(0) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! thingie, it's only trusted users' feedback that make it appear. Among all who posted feedback on your trust pagem only TradeFortress and DiamondCardz are trusted.
this sounds like way too much trouble -- it shows how this scammer tag system is flawed. I am not going to ask every individual who has absolutely nothing to do with this case to remove the tags. If someone can't make this much easier for me, then forget it..
Pay johnblaze 1 BTC publicly, and I'll remove my rating and PM DiamondCardz to remove his.
if you make good on what you owe, then i will assume everything is good and retract my feedback
as i said before, at the moment of accusation, i only spoke the truth. if you honestly made the same mistake multiple times, thats fine as well, just own up to it and make it right. instead, you chose to take offense when it was you who was in the wrong and who made multiple mistakes. all you had to do was apologize and make it good and then there would have been no drama.
if you choose to make good on your word, i will ask the moderators to remove my negative feedback since then you will no longer be a scammer
as i said before, at the moment of accusation, i only spoke the truth. if you honestly made the same mistake multiple times, thats fine as well, just own up to it and make it right. instead, you chose to take offense when it was you who was in the wrong and who made multiple mistakes. all you had to do was apologize and make it good and then there would have been no drama.
if you choose to make good on your word, i will ask the moderators to remove my negative feedback since then you will no longer be a scammer
Why don't you just apologize, admit you were wrong, pay what you owe, and then nicely ask those that left the negative feedback to delete or modify their comments. Everyone that left feedback has the ability to delete it.
If I can get a moderators word that all these tags will be removed. They're starting to get annoying.
What happened to the badass who liked the red text? I mean... Wow. You just completely and utterly punked out. XD
If I can get a moderators word that all these tags will be removed. They're starting to get annoying.
You said you liked all that red.Now you changed idea?
Pity...
If I can get a moderators word that all these tags will be removed. They're starting to get annoying.
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