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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Here my opinion would be that as per present time oil is a bigger strength than agriculture for the development of a country. Because all of the agricultural products that are currently in use, from fertilizers to all types of improvement technologies, require oil to operate. We are now in a situation where if the oil supply is not adequate, not only agricultural but also many other sectors will be faced with many obstructions.
The points I mentioned above are applicable to the current situation. But there is no guarantee that the role or necessity of oil will remain the same in the future as many environmentally friendly technologies are currently being developed to reduce dependency on oil. Agriculture is one thing that will remain forever because agriculture is the main source of human survival. That's why you can see that many countries in the Middle East that are on the top list in oil production are also undertaking various projects to increase soil fertility in their countries. Because if any kind of big pandemic has to face people again, people can save their lives without oil but cannot live without food.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on October 08, 2023, 05:16:30 PM

Agriculture is bigger with an oil in my opinion. Why I say this is because from agricultural produce you can get biogas that can be used to power machineries, power plants just as oil or fossil fuel would. And with the advent of several types of renewable energy available the world would soon move away from fossil fuel or oil meaning that we can actually do without oil but we cannot do without agricultural that gives us food. Therefore we can do without oil as it has several substitute but we cannot do without agriculture.

its true that renewable energy is there but I think its not sufficient enough, there's reason why most of cars right now still using oil, much more in industry of transporting because its just more simple and also efficient though the newest electric cars has shown to be more efficient and inexpensive but still its hard replacing so much equipments all at once.
but I think we are too early to judge the use of oil when new technology like electric cars are appearing because its still on its early stage.
i think in maybe few years we could see whether electric cars truly could be a replacement and move towards renewable energy or just a fad, after all even electric cars right now powered by electricity coming from coal.

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Quote from: Rupok on October 08, 2023, 08:05:12 AM

Today agriculture is highly dependent on oil so I think agriculture vs oil, both are needed for the economic power of a country. Modern agriculture is now dependent on oil, modern machines like power tiller pumps need oil to run. But not all countries are oil rich and all countries are agriculture dependent, only some countries are non-agricultural. Only few countries can supply oil such as Middle East countries like United Arab Emirates.It is true that countries overly dependent on oil resources may face economic challenges.If we look at the countries that are rich in oil, that countries prospered very quickly.

True, both agriculture and oil are essential for human survival people must eat, and cars must move but one is more valuable than the other because it cannot exist without it. However, once there is no money to purchase oil, a person may choose to forgo using a vehicle for a while. If it's about the economy, many nations have made large sums of money from oil, and it has over time become a strength for some nations. Oil has been used by the United Arab Emirates to establish their nation, and it continues to be a major factor in our daily lives.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

In increasingly modern life, oil has become a necessity for farmers to support their economy. Almost everything involved in agriculture uses machines. When you clear land, of course you use a grass cutter whose engine consumes oil, you use a tractor to work the land and some farmers in developed countries use machines designed like mini helicopters for spraying. It doesn't stop there, when harvesting you also use machines.

I can never imagine what would happen to farmers if the world's oil supplies ran out, they would have to return to the era of using manual tools to work the land until they harvested the crops. Agricultural products are really needed by the community, but without oil, the community's economic circulation will be hampered.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Both are big deals!!
We may underestimate the advantage of both of them in raising the economic strength but we fail to do so.
Normally a said country is rich and blessed having both the agricultural sector and oil in circulation but we fail as a country by not making sure both are active,we only resent on one.

In the days of our fore fathers,their dependent on agricultural was on a high esteem and they have excelled in it but since the discovery the oil in the land,agriculture was abandoned and the oil was the only thing they can talk more of which have made it looked like the agricultural sector wasn't doing much better.

Although the existence of the oil has made the work more easier and faster in the aspect of tilling and so on where the oil is required for farming but they have all ignored that most times and centered their workforce for oil rather than making both of them work hand in hand.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I don't understand why there is a competition between these two when each country's economic state are based on these 2 important commodities.
If a country cannot produce enough oil, but is rich with all 4 sectors of agriculture, it is automatically expected that the government would put enough funds to develop and produce more oil in their country. Als goes the other way around. Look at Dubai, they are one of the countries who are blessed with oil, but has difficult environment for agriculture but they still able to manage it because these are both important.
So, I don't think there will be a competition between these 2, the government will lay more fund on either of these if completely necessary.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Agriculture was the most important one in our day to day life.Even through we most of the people earning money from the service sector,food is most essential one for the human to survive.Many dessert based countries was started to agriculture,in some countries government doing agriculture in the ship.If the country was blessed with the oil resource,for the food they spend more on food material imports.

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Oil is a non-renewable resource and will inevitably become a limited commodity. It indeed plays a vital role in various sectors, including transportation, defense, manufacturing, and more. If oil reserves were to run out, its price would skyrocket, forcing everyone to seek alternatives to power machinery.

Agriculture, on the other hand, stands as the most crucial sector within a nation. It holds the power to supply essential sustenance to the entire population, ensuring sufficient nutrition for all. We all require rice and vegetables to survive, and this is more fundamental than oil.

I am inclined to agree that agriculture holds a more pivotal role than oil (in a peaceful world scenario) because food serves as the primary foundation of every life. In times of global conflict, it is oil that takes center stage.

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Agriculture is bigger with an oil in my opinion. Why I say this is because from agricultural produce you can get biogas that can be used to power machineries, power plants just as oil or fossil fuel would. And with the advent of several types of renewable energy available the world would soon move away from fossil fuel or oil meaning that we can actually do without oil but we cannot do without agricultural that gives us food. Therefore we can do without oil as it has several substitute but we cannot do without agriculture.

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Advance countries are not using agricultural product from the farm or field but they are generating the products from the laboratory. Rice, eggs, cassava, chicken, rice and other agricultural product are now produce from the lab so the oil is much more important than the agricultural products because they can us the agricultural products can be provided through the oil products.

Op the oil mineral resources can be use to develop a country very well.

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 07, 2023, 12:55:15 AM

You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

This is correct. The whole agriculture industry needs to have oil for them to operate. Well, you can plant and simply harvest them in time without machinery but it will take time until all of them have been harvested. Fields are not gardens where it's like a personal area to just plant those crops or vegetables that you want to have and add to it that farms are also part of it. There's so much work in the agricultural sector where you'll be ending a lot of energy and that's why oil there is very much essential.

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A strange comparison, oil is a source of energy, whereas agriculture covers the entire range of farming and raising livestock.

Oil traditionally has been in the center stage of geostrategic competition between sovereign states, but there is no single country on Earth which has invested overwhelmingly in oil production to the exclusion of agriculture (unless they are stuck in the desert and don't have much option for farming).

In that sense, we can say agriculture is more essential, while oil, derived from a limited supply of fossils, and concentrated in some of the most troublesome regions in the world, is a more strategic commodity.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 07, 2023, 04:19:32 PM

USA has plenty of oil food labor and scientists
China has plenty of coal food labor and scientists.

They are possibly the top two in the world 🌎.

I'll probably remove the word 'possibly' in that statement because they are both currently top 2 in the world with China trying to persuade their influence all over the asia and US trying to keep their global influence to all of the existing countries

Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Its 2023 and we all know its going to be oil. Look at all those oil money funding on football club, thats just pure investment on entertainment and yeah they got money on that but they could have put it on somewhere else so that kinda tells you they got alot to spend on those non trivial matters like entertainment. I think for the next 50 years, all country that could produce their own energy in this case oil would be having alot of impact on the global economic

And then we wanna suppress oil-rich countries by making all people use the EVs. Making natural gas illegal at some point. These are also one of the reasons why OPEC is supporting Russia and China.

China will not give up that vast South China Sea for they know there is gas under it. They even took pieces of contested islands in that region and built a military facility controlling airspace. Oil is very important and food security can come from other countries as allies are willing to export agricultural products.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 07, 2023, 04:19:32 PM

USA has plenty of oil food labor and scientists
China has plenty of coal food labor and scientists.

They are possibly the top two in the world 🌎.

I'll probably remove the word 'possibly' in that statement because they are both currently top 2 in the world with China trying to persuade their influence all over the asia and US trying to keep their global influence to all of the existing countries

Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Its 2023 and we all know its going to be oil. Look at all those oil money funding on football club, thats just pure investment on entertainment and yeah they got money on that but they could have put it on somewhere else so that kinda tells you they got alot to spend on those non trivial matters like entertainment. I think for the next 50 years, all country that could produce their own energy in this case oil would be having alot of impact on the global economic

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A country can trade through oil but if they have to sell oil to buy food then they cannot make the desired profit from selling that oil. No matter how advanced a country is, it is never a good decision to abandon agricultural technology. Abandonment of agriculture means direct dependence on other countries. Other countries are producing good crops and those crops are being exported abroad to meet the needs of the country and some of the countries that have abandoned agriculture are waiting for those exported products. If for some reason agricultural dependent countries do not have good agricultural yield and if they cannot export the crops then what will the countries who are waiting for other countries do. No matter how strong a country's economic system claims to be, its economic status will only be strong if it is an agrarian country.

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Quote from: Rupok on October 08, 2023, 08:05:12 AM

Today agriculture is highly dependent on oil so I think agriculture vs oil, both are needed for the economic power of a country. Modern agriculture is now dependent on oil, modern machines like power tiller pumps need oil to run. But not all countries are oil rich and all countries are agriculture dependent, only some countries are non-agricultural. Only few countries can supply oil such as Middle East countries like United Arab Emirates.It is true that countries overly dependent on oil resources may face economic challenges.If we look at the countries that are rich in oil, that countries prospered very quickly.

Not all agriculture relies on machines. There are several areas that still use traditional agricultural systems using livestock such as buffalo and cows which are used to plow the fields. However, in terms of time efficiency, if you use the traditional system, it takes quite a long time, while the need for food continues to increase every year, so that if you maintain the traditional system it will not be able to answer the need for food.

And currently several developed countries are very dependent on machines and technology to increase the productivity of agricultural products, however, with the progress and conditions of agriculture today, they are experiencing new problems apart from fertilizer which is experiencing a shortage. However, currently oil prices have increased so that these things have resulted in food and commodity prices also increasing.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

You are talking as if a country could make a choice when this is not true, some countries have oil but not enough land which can be used for agriculture so they need to import food, some other countries have the land to sustain themselves but not the oil so they have to import it, and some other countries are blessed to have both but they need to develop them and this requires a lot of investment, so I do not see why you are trying to make users to decide which one is more important than the other.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I don't know which countries are you mentioning here but if I am not wrong there is not many countries on the list that are filled with both oil and natural resources for agriculture so others were doing best with what they have.

In general, if we talk about oil middle Eastern countries will come to mind where there is not much places to do agricultural activities even though still they are creating an environment for agriculture and trying to cultivate some crops in a controlled environment which is only possible with the money they made from their oil resources.

If you expect a country to self-sustain with their only resources then what you are suggesting is nothing but to follow what North Korea is doing.

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Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

Agriculture is the breadbasket of life for mankind and agriculture is considered very important as a sector that can generate state income if cultivated and managed well. Without agricultural land, the source of basic needs will become one of the targets for imports from outside and if the country is not strong in economic terms, then small communities will experience a big impact on the problems that will occur.

Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

But you also have to know that nowadays agriculture also needs oil because the land is cultivated using machines. Traditional methods are no longer the case now so oil is also an important part of the agricultural sector. The exchange of one sector for another between countries is a normal thing. If these two sectors are not owned by a particular country then there must be other measures that need to be taken into account, so that the country does not cause big problems regarding these two sectors.

Quote from: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Of course these two sectors are equally needed so there is no choice but to have both and even if they don't exist then we have to look at the country's concept. What sectors does the country rely on for income because different countries may have different development concepts that are applied through certain sectors.

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Now more and more machines or factories are switching from oil to alternative sources, oil reserves are decreasing which of course makes oil prices more expensive and many countries are providing policies to support alternative energy, some oil countries are currently rich countries, but I'm sure 100 or In 200 years, countries that still survive on agriculture will be able to control the world.

It is true that popularity of green energy is growing globally, and both factories and individuals for their domestic requirements are switching to sources of alternative energy due to depleting oil resources and concerns about environment. Consequently, the counties heavily reliant on oil resources are likely to encounter economic challenges as its paramount significance diminishes.Hence, it is essential for these nations to divert their financial resources towards development of agriculture, a sector poised to retain its role in ensuring human survival.

Why compare when you can do both at the same time? Oil is important, but agriculture is also important. Perhaps the difference is that some countries rely on the oil sector because they have abundant oil reserves, while others focus on agriculture. I think these two things should be utilized without comparing them. As I said before, if you can use both, why not do it together, especially since both are important sectors in life.

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