Topic: AI agents will bring a new gambling experience (Read 416 times)

AI agents may give a new impression to the world of gambling, maybe we will see how AI will give recommendations on the gambling we will do or analyze us and consider RTP to get more chances for us to win.
I haven't tried it yet, maybe there are AI agents that can provide more experience than other ai like grock.

Yeah, indeed it could provide more efficient gambling experience as it was run by artificial intelligence. But you can't deny the fact that human agents can't perform same with what AI can do without further error or lesser error nearest to 100% successful rate. Efficient performance on casino ROI will always be at progressive output particular with their profit, and not the gamblers itself.

LOL at AI agents!

Seriously people, stop treating AI like it's some magical force that has appeared out of nowhere and can do things nobody has done before.
Bots that were placing bets on live matches before the algorithm was able to adjust after a goal or a point had existed for decades, the bookie simply added a cool-down period, your odd must not chance for a few seconds when taking a live bet or it will be rejected, added enough time and no "AI" agent will be able t do a thing.

Besides, the whole AI thing is overblown, there is a test here on Bitcointalk about AI predictions, and the assistant is not doing better than a coin toss. 

Stop confusing betting algorithms that have existed since online betting became a thing with AI!
AI assistants are trained on existent data they will analyze existent data about teams and odds, all things that are available to everyone, if you think they will magically manage to predict the future on that then I have a few bridges to sell to you.

Efficiency and accuracy I a future challenge we are going to have with this innovation in the near future,  because I believe even the online casinos are advancing such that they may go way beyond the levels they are now as compared to what they have been hence its going to be a really tough one for this innovation to sustainably stay active enough all this while or as the advancement takes place through on gambling platforms.  Nevertheless in the mean time those who are knowledgeable in the usage can actually leveraging it already.

Heh, your topic just reminded me of a funny live casino story that happened while sharing a room with a friend. Back when I was still gambling, I played blackjack at Evolution live tables, and my friend happened to watch beside me. The dealer was so precise with their movements and his responses to the chat as well felt like a robot that my friend became convinced they were an AI. Even though the dealer was answering our chat in real time, my friend kept insisting, "No way, that’s a real person" To this day she still believe it was a robot pretending to be human and no matter what, he thinks Im trying to trick him.
Honestly, stories like that make me believe AI could absolutely take over the gambling world. What describing with AI agents placing bets across multiple sportsbooks in realtime is a quick switch in this space. The speed, precision, and ability to adapt to in-game events make AI a powerful tool, cheaper and without mistakes.

But do you think this will completely replace the live dealer experience, For me part of the thrill was the human interaction even if it sometimes felt robotic but you know a person behind is putting effort and has emotional energy. Still, I can’t deny that AI could change many things from bad to great.

I wonder how long it would take for us to see the big difference between old gambling with AI and nowadays.

What a wonderful example. Reading this specific line about predicting the roulette wheel with Ai (even the possibility) made me feel silly. No matter how robust the system sounds logically still there will be loopholes and you should be ready for new learnings.
Even if It can't predict where the ball will exactly land (which I believe it can as a matter of finding variables) it can surely give you a possible hotspot for a particular dealer based on the patterns of his ball throwing and speed of the wheel and a million more variables (AI to handle).
I wonder what will happen to games like 'Crazy Time' (if nobody is already behind the wheel  ).
Well spotted, good work mate. It seems like it is indeed not easy to settle the debate of +ve and -ve games .

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Is it possible to use artificial intelligence to place bets on sports events and win, thereby earning money? I think yes - it is possible.

However, to do this, you need to use the most advanced language models that are not available to other people (even for a lot of money). That is, we are talking about new experimental language models that are tested in secret laboratories. It is clear that only a limited number of people have access to such samples of artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is constantly evolving and its capabilities never cease to amaze...

At the same time, it should be noted that a developer who controls the most advanced artificial intelligence in the world can use it with greater benefit than just stupidly placing bets on sports events.

Like you said @OP, it will bring or cause a new gambling experience which even if that's true, it can not stop the casino from being ahead of the game. The house edge of the casino happens to be mostly in favour of the house than the player, the bookmakers with their different options also make more profit too because the player needs luck win their bet.

AI can develop strategies for some casino games. But I don't think they can be 100% successful. I'd like to have a bot that would immediately bet on 2 consecutive 0's in Crash, or 3 consecutive 0's. We don't need AI for that. But the idea of an AI that can take advantage of some opportunities like this sounds good. AI can consistently turn opportunities like this into earnings. Other than that, I don't think there will be an AI that can theorize everything in gambling.

I am not enthusiastic about the surprises that AI agents can show at the present time, because AI agents do not express a desire to win at high rates of betting. Rather, they help lose and give very few people a gift towards winning.
However, the fastest and most powerful of AI agents is that they can create the ability to bet quickly, but very few people are interested in placing bets on it. Because your own thinking and the AI agent's thinking can never match, so I am not interested in placing bets on AI agent games at all.

And just like what others have said, it's just like trading Bot so we might used the same but the output might be very different. I wouldn't say that there are no advantage as it automates everything. But still we will lost the enjoyment and we rely everything on AI agents to make bets.

So for me, maybe if it is available I will used it just for the experience but that's it. I still prefer the old and traditional way of sports betting. We check the schedule, we anticipate, and then we analyze and we put our bet and watch the game itself.

I have always been of the opinion that we never can get to the stage or level where Ai can become an easy tool for gamblers to make use of in gambling to win far more than considered normal, lets not forget that casinos are not sleeping also, their codes are not written on stones that it can not be edited, updated, and new features implemented.

Every serious business do have a research team that ensures they get all informations on latest trends, weigh the level of threat this trends is or will potentially be to the business, and then the development team move in to build walls that will prevent such trends from being a treat to the company/business in any way or form.
Ai in gambling can help, but it will be for finding informations and nothing more.

No doubt about that so gamblers can use the benefits of AI agents for their own purposes. But before you can use AI agents, you need to learn that which means not all gamblers can do that. Maybe that will help some gamblers while others still use how they know.

Maybe that is mindblowing to know what AI agents can do but for those who don't know about that will not try to involved. The casino will not let AI agents ruin their business so they will do something to block that.

AI agents and casinos will be more competitive so we will see many big changes in the gambling industry.

Maybe that will not happen soon and we still need to wait.

With all due respect, it sounds like nonsense. Show a publicly available model that does what you describe. And without hallucinations. Mistakes are unacceptable. Why else would I need such an agent? I can make mistakes myself. Neither ChatGPT, nor Claude, nor the rest of the major commercial models are capable of this. Maybe an open source model of a Hugging Face? Not, either.

Generally:
1. No one will train such a model and make it publicly available (including paid), unless they are suicidal.
2. Do you have any idea how much it costs to train such a model? However, casinos and bookmakers can afford to create and use such models, which they are already doing, rest assured.
3. Ordinary gamblers have never been able to beat a casino or a bookmaker, and they will never be able to, especially now they will have to beat the casino's AI.

That's right, surely the OP is either trying to promote AI agents or is someone naive who has seen advertising about them and swallowed that they are going to make him rich, when, as you say, if it's a technology available to everyone, it's not going to be an advantage. The advantage would be if you were the first to use them and they were not widely available, which is not the case, besides bookies also use AI. And that's without going into the bet cancellation that you mention later.

The main problem with AI agents is that they are generally available to everyone. What is available to everyone is not a competitive advantage for anyone. There are players who hope to use AI for arbitrage between different bookmakers. But in my opinion, this is an unpromising direction for using AI. The fact is that bookmakers easily identify arbitrageurs. For example, it is enough to see how a large flow of money goes to one sports team, then you can conclude that there is either insider trading, or a fixed match, or arbitrage. Often, the bookmaker simply cancels this bet.

I find no interest since this is not new, AI taking over almost every field and in terms of gambling it might sound interesting now. When the time comes we’ll all lose interest because it still can’t discover the perfect feature use for consistent winning although will this ever be possible? We all know the system is controlled by technology innovation including AI, no doubt the expectations are high let’s hope for a positive turn.

Well, if money and business is on the line do you think Vegas will not right the current trend of AI agents? of course they know how to maintain their business and still on the current meta, they’re a huge business that runs for years now, I don’t think they are screwedc because as far as I know, they already said it in the past that having online experience experience is much more efficient but look, vegas still on the list and innovations are non-stop, business is business, they will not let a current trend be their failure.

Predicting the outcome wasn't the point. The point was to react faster to changes in the game, than sport books can.

So it's going to be like the OP said: Or that casinos just make it against their ToS to use any kind of AI agent, or make it harder for bots to bet. They can also make more captchas for suspected ai bot account. And because they can act unrealistically fast, they can be spotted pretty easily by algorithms.

But for time being, i don't see anything wrong by using tech that gives an edge if it's in the limits of the ToS. This edge won't be lasting long though.

Talking about bets, the best thing that could happen with AI agents monitoring bets and odds on on-chain sportsbooks is that it could automatically spread bets, preventing bettors from being limited due to placing large wagers. This would make the system fairer and more efficient.

On top of that, AI could also handle marketing, attracting gamblers in a way that’s fully automated. This means less reliance on human labor, reducing operational costs for sportsbooks. But it does raise a concern - are we heading toward a future where automation leads to fewer jobs for people?

That’s so funny, couldn’t believe you said it but yeah, as much as we like to think that AI is going to revolutionize almost every field and how this can apply in gambling, I think even the gambling industry have got tech to put that in check.

In fact, techs that wouldn’t allow bets in real time and that alone is enough to put AI betting in check. You can hope that AI would place bets seconds after an event has played and thereby, you make a win out of it. Mind you, even such bets could be void you know. Then, we would have users complaining in the scam accusation board of how certain casinos void their bets and have scammed them even with their scam tactics.

If this does not favor the casinos and lead to massive increase in winnings, I bet you that it will be banned in gambling because the casinos will not want to risk going out of business. If outright ban is not possible, they will simply remove live bets and that will fix the situation completely. Meanwhile, there is no guarantee that player will score when they break past the defense because we have seen several cases of such goals being missed. It happened twice in the match between Liverpool and Manchester United today so it is a common thing in gambling.

I’ve always hold the opinion that it’s going to take a lot before AI are able to affect our gambling results but with the rapid development of intelligence on a daily basis I’m beginning to think that it might just be possible.

I don’t know how this one will affect or how it’s quick reaction time will change the outcome of gambling but I feel very soon we’ll see greater and more developed AIs that might just be able to change the future of gambling; with constant development of AIs more jobs are being at risk of losing people and being replaced with AI and gambling just might be one of them as soon as any of them is able to increase winning rate.

Of course, AI agents will only provide gambling as more engaging and secured environment, but will never guarantee fast winning when gambling. The edge is still on the house, it will always be. While AI agents can encourage responsible gambling, but it's still on the gambler itself if he still gamble irresponsibly and risk money more than he can afford to lose.

IMO it will help to significantly reduce house edge of online casino games, by counting cards at blackjack, baccarat, casino poker games, teen patti, andar bahar and other table card games and their side bet options. So if the player benefits from a cashback, bonuses or any promotion, he's very likely to be able to reverse negative EVs into positive ones for himself. For the roulette games, if the dealers only close the bets after throwing the ball, like they are still doing, maybe some AI systems will one day be able to predict the correct sector of the wheel reached by the ball.

people hype up AI thinking that it would allow humans to take a step back and somehow still get the end results they want but AI can’t function on their own or at least not yet they need information fed to them by us humans so you still need to operate the AI for it to function the way you want it to one way or another

We are about to find out what really AI gents can do in gambling. It is an AI and supposedly it can analyze data that bettors who have been around for a while, have been analyzing data as well. It's just a question of what sort of data and the source of the data.

If the data that AI agents are analyzing also comes from the sports betting platform then there is a chance that they really are going to be wrecked. There was already a prediction AI for sports, its almost got the same data analysis from the team's statistics.

I have written this many times in response to this AI agents. No one should think that AI is going to help win. If there is any percentage of people winning their bets through AI it is only going to be a very small number and the type of AI agents they are using are not yet commercialized. It is going to be the advanced of the advanced type. Sportsbooks are also going to have their own AI agents to detect when an account involves AI in its betting. AI agents are here to stay and there is soon going to be a regulation on responsible AI use in gambling.

Yes, AI can help gamblers place bets faster, but AI cannot increase the chances of winning in gambling. If AI can predict the outcome of a match or bet, then people will always participate in gambling using AI. Also we will always participate in gambling using AI and win every bet by predicting AI trends and making a lot of money from gambling platforms. I always believe that AI is not bringing anything fast for humans. We will always participate in gambling with our predictions, and yes we will not be confused by using any AI.

AI agents aren't fortune tellers. They predict based on past events, therefore, there aren't any assurances they are going to predict 100% accurately the next move of a player on the field. Let's say AI agents are fast enough to place a bet on the exact moment the player broke the defenses of the rival team: it doesn't mean a goal is going to be scored, because the goalkeeper can still defend the shot, or the offensive player can miss the final shot. There are still different variables, which the AI can't predict with certain which of them is going to take place for real.

Such promises of a new experience in gambling through AI and the claim casinos are despaired about this technology are just bluffs used by AI developers who are attempting to create some hype around it for financial gains. Casinos are never scared as long as they have the mathematical advantage through the house edge factor, besides future events not being possible to be predicted by fortune tellers, who are in fact charlatans.

We can't say yet if the use of AI becomes efficient, but many of us assume already the passive results it creates. I think we also have to welcome it unless it is proven wrong. 

If some casinos are already embracing new developments, we can expect others to do the same. We are still in the trial stage and expect changes once done. But we can think already that we're going that way, which casinos employ more AI than humans. 

If this were to happen efficiently, there would be a change in the pace of gambling and probably strategies that affect the odds. I think AI agents are here to stay, and they are to improve our daily lives in some ways. If gambling is one of them, then so be it; we could adapt to something like that.

I see it as a big trend in every industry.

I know I can simply Google search this to find out more details about this Ai agent you are talking about, and to confirm if you are indeed right or not, but still, you would have maybe; included a link through which we can read more about this.

I really have never read or heard about this anywhere before, so, this is my very first time of reading about this, but one thing I am going to say I am very certain about is that if this Ai agent is going to jeopardize most casinos and make them vulnerable to gamblers/sports bettors, then I believe that by now, casinos that this will potentially affect should already be looking around for some form of immunity against the agent.
I definitely will have to find information on this and read more about it, then alone will I be sure of what are really talking about, and tell for sure whether it's something casinos should become afraid of.

So casinos and sportsbooks might stop paying affiliates since AI is now taking over their role. This move could maximize profits while being more efficient and effective. However, wouldn’t this make competition even tighter? If everyone starts using AI to attract gamblers, it might turn into a race to see who can deploy the most advanced and creative strategies.

Recently AI is one of the most powerful tool recently, still to make a bet with the AI it must need to have a navigation with the user, recently I've seen some of the casino offering a different approach of betting such as the use of the automation of bot with the telegram platform which you can instantly make a bet without hassle and doesn't need to go to the platform at all just to choose the event and the amount you would like to bet, casino giving their efforts to give the most efficient way to the user seems not all are still widely acceptable with this approach until now but sooner or later it will become normalize it seems.

AI will based their predictions based on the available internet data. So we can't fully guarantee their speculations as there are still some blindspots such as current weather condition, change of tactics, last minute change of line up, new coach and other uncertainties in the game. We can consult their predictions but not totally relying from their predictions. But their inputs will surely help you gauge on how you select the odds and the potential outcome. And you can consider some insights that you haven't seen yet and the AI just showed you the potential angles of the game.

I believe OP may be over-estimating the capabilities and the consequences the introduction of Artificial intelligence will have within the world of betting, to be honest. Sure, Artificial intelligence is a powerful technology and may lead to further automation of processes, but AI bots won't still be able to predicts outcomes, in the same way a human being cannot, the only difference between a human being and an AI is the speed of processing the same amount of information, which is publicly available for anyone to see on the internet. That is all.

Even if there is some way AI could be abused and started to affect big markets like this in Las Vegas, the centralized and traditional options will just update and adapt to modern times, instead just sitting down and do nothing.

maybe in this case AI agents are able to place bets on more platforms, but that doesn't matter since AI agents can't predict exactly what the outcome of the bet will be, what these AI agents do is just analyze and place bets, and that's it, I don't think that betting platforms or even Vegas will be afraid of how these AI agents will work.

casinos must have predicted that the development of AI technology could lead to something that might not be profitable for them, but they will definitely adapt to it by developing an AI system that can learn the betting patterns produced by AI. they can employ their own AI systems to analyze and identify patterns in betting behavior, including those of AI agents, allowing them to adjust odds dynamically and maintain their profitability.

Good, it will be more efficient and provide better speed than now but does not provide any assistance to increase the chance of winning, I think not all gamblers will like it because we ourselves also understand that gamblers today are much more interested and like various offers to help them win not just to help speed up betting.
See there are many betting prediction services and it is really always filled with customers who want to get prediction analysis, even these people are willing to pay some money to get predictions as desired, if AI can develop more advanced with prediction services that can be better at analyzing and providing predictions that can increase the chance of winning maybe it can be more attention and interest for many gamblers.

You hyped this more than it actually is, so I term it too-good-to-be-true. Perhaps, it's working for you now to make you this confident, but it's exploitative, this can't be for long. As AI is being developed in diverse ways and being targeted against bookies, bookies too aren't relenting in the defence of their assets and business. On-change betting can't also be exploited as easily as you think undetected and if it has to be slower for more verification before the order is passed, then bookies will do that to safeguard their investments.

Vegas is screwed?
They have the money so will probably just adapt. There's no screwing one of the biggest and most popular gambling places in the world. They will always find a way and I bet they are already making some plans on how they will get the upper hand or worse, on how they will stomp this type of betting method.
Just like how the tobacco companies are trying to screw the vaping industry, these big companies will do their best (or worst) just so they won't be the ones left behind. Money can do anything and they will probably either buy it or pull it down.
It's a nice introduction but I am more worried about the employees when AI is implemented as they might try to use this and kick out the dealers.

To take full advantage of AI in gambling, you need to understand how it all works. If I understand correctly, AI will simply follow human commands, or maybe you can ask AI for advice on bets and it will be able to analyze the next bet better than you, but there will still be a luck factor that AI cannot take into account in its forecasts. If you are talking about AI as a way to scale, then I also do not see the point in this yet, or maybe I do not understand something.

I try to understand what AI agent means first, and it says that it is a program that can help a individual, so it helps on decision making, and can automate jobs. So with that we can compare it to trading bots right? And if that is the case then it still needed human intervention so set up all the correct parameters so that it make our lives easier in betting. So still it can't move by itself without our commands.

So with that, it might bring new gambling experience, but still it's not it will go and interact with let's say a gambling platform to make the bets for us. So I do not see it screwing Vegas, on the contrary of gamblers will depend on this AI agents, Las Vegas will benefit because there could be gamblers who want to take advantage of this supposedly AI agents.

Even AI agents can do those, still, the LUCK is still their enemy. They cannot do something about luck in gambling, let's accept that.
With AI or no AI, LUCK is always our enemy, especially in the games of chance.
Also think also if you misconfigure the AI you are using and could lead you to losses, it could happen.

AI only helps gamblers to be able to place bets fasters, not increase the winning rate because if that happens, the casino will be the first party to prohibit the use of AI, and also AI cannot possibly know the exact results of the match so this technology is almost the same as a bot in trading which makes everything more automatic, so no casino, either online or offline, will be messed up by the use of AI.

Me too. Honestly, we don't like to be fast in placing bets, but instead, we want to increase the odds of winning. For me, AI does nothing good for us gamblers but for just the casino. 

Despite embracing AI technology, we can't still think that this could bring huge changes in the industry. I know the majority still prefer engaging humans, not robots. And I believe that gamblers will choose casinos to play not because they are using an advanced AI but for the convenience it provides.

So, yes, Vegas is not screwed; they remain one of the leading casinos all over the world. 
 

Looks like a problem for sports books rather than gambling in general. Still, I'd like to see an actual working example of this first before anything else? Like I reckon if there are AI agents that are capable of doing what you're saying, what stops bookies from using them for the same purpose? In a battle of speed, I reckon bigger companies would have way more capability in improving it compared to an individual. And either way, both usages (by player and bookie) would probably take years before its implemented.

That was how there was so much hype about trading bots that guarantees constant win. But it turned out to be mere speculations because many traders lost money using them. These AI gambling bots will never lead to constant wins. If these boys are real, every gambler will immediately adopt them and casinos will begin to go bankrupt.

AI tools will assist gamblers in analysing games faster and more accurately. It will also help in giving gamblers quick information about a game. But I doubt if there are any that will give people steady wins.

It is to early as you say for AI agents to bring us winning bets and I don't think they will ever will because simply no matter how good an AI agent is, it can never predict the future or the most variable of all which is the referee behavior. As you say placing bets fast is not that helpful at all unless you are dealing with arbitrage betting where I see this fitting well if they can place bets faster and this is not needed at all to play live bets, in arbitrage betting they can place bets before the game begins and an AI agent can help you be really fast in catching the odds needed to do arbitrage betting, this for me is the best scenario where to use it.

What a load of bollocks. Another one who thinks that AI is going to help him beat the bookies when he hasn't stopped to think that the bookies themselves use AI to set the odds.


It is simply that there are people selling these AI agents in the same way that they are sold for trading without thinking that in trading the big investment funds also use AI, probably a much better one, and that by handling much larger amounts of money they can influence the market in a way that gives them an advantage over the retail that buys the AI trading bot.

How you really trust such tools without a long test?
AI will be used not only by players but also from bookmakers. Potentially no advantage for players since we can assume bookie will be able to have a better tool.
We need years before seeing something suitable. Actually you can use automatic tools for betting like geektoys (only with betfair.com).

There is nothing big that is coming through AI agents. AI agents does not means people will be able to place bets and be winning than losing. AI agent does not offer high rate winning but it offers ability to place bets fast. This is one of the innovations that I am not interested in at all.

I have my serious doubts about the actual use of these AI agents or "bots" - we have had same things in trading and they only automate your trades and nothing more.

If you have a similar thing in gambling on sports, you will also be running a similar thing. It will automate the process but will never be able to change your odds. Head to head comparisons are tough - a proper cross sectional study might bring out the real thing, but nobody wants to do that and get spanked by big tech.

Now if they bring in robots do the Live dealer thing, that is a complete turn off, I like to see my dealers live and kicking, no bots, please.

In terms of what? For sure if they know that they are screwed then they might as well embrace AI agents.


And if gambling betting or experience will be more efficient, then gambling platforms are going to benefit from it? Even Las Vegas too, so it's a win-win for them so I'm not really sure what's your point of saying that they are going to be screwed by AI. They won't simply just adapt and evolved as well, gambling is a billion dollar business in Vegas and they won't simply go extinct because of AI.

That is a huge conclusion to throw around. I do not think Vegas is screwed. They do not seem to be struggling and they continue to be one of the cities to go to for gambling. Online gambling is now on the rise but there is still some lure into physical casinos especially the big fancy ones because it is not all just about the gambling itself but also the environment and the overall experience.
I can see that but just like other AI tech all over the world, all of them are still not at their best imo. They need more time and more perfecting for it to screw up Vegas like you said. But I do not doubt that it could happen just not now.

As far as I know, on-chain sports books are quite slow, especially when placing bets during live betting. If you think AI agents can beat in terms of speed (exploiting time difference for updating odds) you might be right but this scenario will only last temporarily as casino owners will quickly fix that.
Regarding any other -ve games casinos will always have an edge so there is no question of AI agents beating casinos in the long term.
Having said that there are a few areas where this might make sense like RTA (real-time assistance) in Poker with AI agent which can quickly scan through GTO strategies will be much more difficult to identify let alone ban.
Another one is it might help gamblers to stay away from emotional aspects which can lead to more winnings.

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Before you judge I think you should try and see what AI agents are capable of, I think Vegas is screwed.

AI agents now has the ability to act extremely quickly as in game events take place.
AI agents can place bets across 10+ on chain sports books all simultaneously the second the player breaks past the defense, there has been nothing more mindblowing than this so far.

It could sound too good to be true but it is true.

Web3 sportsbooksaportabooks will become increasingly more efficient due to the capabilities and volumes of these AI agents.

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.