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Anthony Joshua, Kubrat Pulev Have Until January 31 To Reach Deal

IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua and mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev, according to a rep from the International Boxing Federation (IBF), have until January 31 to reach an agreement or their contest will head to a purse bid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-january-31-reach-deal--145794

They'll probably reach a deal, but no doubt Pulev will be trying to get the fight ASAP since he'll be 39 in a few months.

Either way, it wouldn't be a surprise if AJ quickly KOs Pulev around May-June, then fights the winner of Fury/Wilder towards the end of the year.

We can always dream.

Yeah, this is a good time-table for AJ to fight Pulev, which we think he can really win, his stack somewhat going up again and his name into the discussions to fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury. Assuming that there will be no trilogy here, because there are news that either way, there will be a third fight, to make more money for both of them.

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Quote from: DarkDays on January 10, 2020, 04:14:34 PM

Quote from: mich on January 10, 2020, 03:18:57 PM

Anthony Joshua, Kubrat Pulev Have Until January 31 To Reach Deal

IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua and mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev, according to a rep from the International Boxing Federation (IBF), have until January 31 to reach an agreement or their contest will head to a purse bid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-january-31-reach-deal--145794

They'll probably reach a deal, but no doubt Pulev will be trying to get the fight ASAP since he'll be 39 in a few months.

Either way, it wouldn't be a surprise if AJ quickly KOs Pulev around May-June, then fights the winner of Fury/Wilder towards the end of the year.

We can always dream.

That should be the case, they cannot avoid each other, the fight should happen, because it is the fight that really happens, this is what promoters and fight experts want and dream that must happen, I hope they will be considerate enough to accept the money that they will deal.

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Quote from: mich on January 10, 2020, 03:18:57 PM

Anthony Joshua, Kubrat Pulev Have Until January 31 To Reach Deal

IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua and mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev, according to a rep from the International Boxing Federation (IBF), have until January 31 to reach an agreement or their contest will head to a purse bid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-january-31-reach-deal--145794

They'll probably reach a deal, but no doubt Pulev will be trying to get the fight ASAP since he'll be 39 in a few months.

Either way, it wouldn't be a surprise if AJ quickly KOs Pulev around May-June, then fights the winner of Fury/Wilder towards the end of the year.

We can always dream.

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Anthony Joshua, Kubrat Pulev Have Until January 31 To Reach Deal

IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua and mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev, according to a rep from the International Boxing Federation (IBF), have until January 31 to reach an agreement or their contest will head to a purse bid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-joshua-kubrat-pulev-january-31-reach-deal--145794

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I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They'll be fighting soon but I like Wilder as probably he could knock down AJ based on how I figure this two will fight in the ring.

The most anticipated fight this year so far is the Wilder vs Fury, and this is better than AJ vs Ortiz fight 1 and 2 combined,.. 2 was just a hype.

I'm thinking the same, it is obvious Joshua cannot fight either of those two as they are going to be fighting each other and after that they need to build the hype for the fight but it cannot take that much longer, people are hungry for the big fights and this means a lot of money is going to be on the table for all the fighters involved, it is going to be finally the time to prove in the ring who is the best, and the best part is that if the fights are as good as we believe they may be this could spark a trilogy of fights among them.

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I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They're both locked up in a fight in February.

Anthony Joshua previously said he wants to fight in the sprint, and I doubt there's going to be a quick turnaround between Fury and Wilder such that they could possibly make a fighter with Joshua.

The undisputed fight will likely be set around 6 months in advance to give the promoters and networks time to properly market the event (i.e. milk it for as much as possible), since it'll be the biggest fight of the decade.

This isn't something to throw together shortly after another huge championship fight.

You're totally right because the rematch between Fury and Wilder which is set on February 22 was already confirmed by Fury and it will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. I guess it will be atleast April before the fight between the winner of Fury vs Wilder fight can dace Anthony.

That's best case scenario.

When a fighter gets knocked down, or gets a cut etc, then they usually get suspended by the relevant athletic commission for AT LEAST two months before they can resume fighting professionally.

At that rate, assuming someone gets knocked out (probably Fury), he would be able to fight until at least May and that's still wildly optimistic since these fights never get made that quickly.

I understand the association of boxing commissions rules concern the health of boxers which the reason why i presume it will be at least April before Anthony can face any of the winners between (Wilder vs Fury) fight.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They'll be fighting soon but I like Wilder as probably he could knock down AJ based on how I figure this two will fight in the ring.

The most anticipated fight this year so far is the Wilder vs Fury, and this is better than AJ vs Ortiz fight 1 and 2 combined,.. 2 was just a hype.

The last time i check no one know if Wilder will be the winner of the upcoming fight with Fury and you shouldnt use Anthony pretty face to predict Wilder the winner if the two ever have undisputed title fight.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They're both locked up in a fight in February.

Anthony Joshua previously said he wants to fight in the sprint, and I doubt there's going to be a quick turnaround between Fury and Wilder such that they could possibly make a fighter with Joshua.

The undisputed fight will likely be set around 6 months in advance to give the promoters and networks time to properly market the event (i.e. milk it for as much as possible), since it'll be the biggest fight of the decade.

This isn't something to throw together shortly after another huge championship fight.

You're totally right because the rematch between Fury and Wilder which is set on February 22 was already confirmed by Fury and it will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. I guess it will be atleast April before the fight between the winner of Fury vs Wilder fight can dace Anthony.
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That's best case scenario.

When a fighter gets knocked down, or gets a cut etc, then they usually get suspended by the relevant athletic commission for AT LEAST two months before they can resume fighting professionally.

At that rate, assuming someone gets knocked out (probably Fury), he would be able to fight until at least May and that's still wildly optimistic since these fights never get made that quickly.

At least we should see the fight whether AJ vs Fury or AJ vs Wilder before the end of 2020 or at least first half of 2021. This is really doable and as @Docnaster, but it might take some time to set up, as network will have a lot their hands to promote it and will try every marketing strategy so that they can milk the hell out of that fight.

Heavyweight division is somewhat stack up right now, and there are a lot of good fights to be made this 2020. But all eyes are on the big three and we do hope that we will see them fighting each other at least this 2020.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They'll be fighting soon but I like Wilder as probably he could knock down AJ based on how I figure this two will fight in the ring.

The most anticipated fight this year so far is the Wilder vs Fury, and this is better than AJ vs Ortiz fight 1 and 2 combined,.. 2 was just a hype.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on January 06, 2020, 05:19:59 PM

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They're both locked up in a fight in February.

Anthony Joshua previously said he wants to fight in the sprint, and I doubt there's going to be a quick turnaround between Fury and Wilder such that they could possibly make a fighter with Joshua.

The undisputed fight will likely be set around 6 months in advance to give the promoters and networks time to properly market the event (i.e. milk it for as much as possible), since it'll be the biggest fight of the decade.

This isn't something to throw together shortly after another huge championship fight.

You're totally right because the rematch between Fury and Wilder which is set on February 22 was already confirmed by Fury and it will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. I guess it will be atleast April before the fight between the winner of Fury vs Wilder fight can dace Anthony.

That's best case scenario.

When a fighter gets knocked down, or gets a cut etc, then they usually get suspended by the relevant athletic commission for AT LEAST two months before they can resume fighting professionally.

At that rate, assuming someone gets knocked out (probably Fury), he would be able to fight until at least May and that's still wildly optimistic since these fights never get made that quickly.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 06, 2020, 04:10:14 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They're both locked up in a fight in February.

Anthony Joshua previously said he wants to fight in the sprint, and I doubt there's going to be a quick turnaround between Fury and Wilder such that they could possibly make a fighter with Joshua.

The undisputed fight will likely be set around 6 months in advance to give the promoters and networks time to properly market the event (i.e. milk it for as much as possible), since it'll be the biggest fight of the decade.

This isn't something to throw together shortly after another huge championship fight.

You're totally right because the rematch between Fury and Wilder which is set on February 22 was already confirmed by Fury and it will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. I guess it will be atleast April before the fight between the winner of Fury vs Wilder fight can dace Anthony.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 06, 2020, 01:57:29 PM

I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

They're both locked up in a fight in February.

Anthony Joshua previously said he wants to fight in the sprint, and I doubt there's going to be a quick turnaround between Fury and Wilder such that they could possibly make a fighter with Joshua.

The undisputed fight will likely be set around 6 months in advance to give the promoters and networks time to properly market the event (i.e. milk it for as much as possible), since it'll be the biggest fight of the decade.

This isn't something to throw together shortly after another huge championship fight.

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I don’t wanna see any of these mandatory challengers for AJ’s belts, I wanna see AJ fight Wilder & Fury.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 06, 2020, 02:32:07 AM

This is what AJ has to say:

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"I always said the belts do not represent me. I will stand as a champion, even if I have to give one up," Joshua told Sky Sports. "It would give me an opportunity to face another world champion – I’ve beaten four world champions on my record now.

"If I give up a belt it creates more history and entertainment. If I have to, I’ll give it away – but I’ll get it back again."

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-ill-stand-champion-i-give-one-up--145663

@fortunecrypto - boxing today is no longer the best fighting the best. You're right, it's all business now, but want we really wanted to see is AJ facing either Fury or Wilder next and as boxing fans we wanted to see those three facing one another in an epic clash. We do hope that he will face the winner of Fury vs Wilder. And I'm sure that when there's enough money in the table, they can eventually arrange and iron out it everything and make the fight.

That was a good line though and i agree for his point on giving up a belt and taking it back.It do really give out some entertainment and thrill.I dont have any hopes for Fury nor wilder yet
there was already mandatory fight for AJ.

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This is what AJ has to say:

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"I always said the belts do not represent me. I will stand as a champion, even if I have to give one up," Joshua told Sky Sports. "It would give me an opportunity to face another world champion – I’ve beaten four world champions on my record now.

"If I give up a belt it creates more history and entertainment. If I have to, I’ll give it away – but I’ll get it back again."

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-ill-stand-champion-i-give-one-up--145663

@fortunecrypto - boxing today is no longer the best fighting the best. You're right, it's all business now, but want we really wanted to see is AJ facing either Fury or Wilder next and as boxing fans we wanted to see those three facing one another in an epic clash. We do hope that he will face the winner of Fury vs Wilder. And I'm sure that when there's enough money in the table, they can eventually arrange and iron out it everything and make the fight.

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I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Anthony Joshua has stated multiple times in the past that he would rather not fight unless he is fighting another A class fighter.

Unlike Tyson Fury (for example) who has no issues with fighting the likes of Tom Schwartz and other low ranked fighters for a tickover, it seems AJ will only fight those in the top 20 or so.

This obviously causes matchmaking issues, but will eventually give fight fans the fights they want.

The boxing fans deserve great fights and great fighters fight great fighters, but the problem is always been money and privileges, the Wilder against Joshua will eventually happen even if any of the fighters suffer losses from low ranked fighters, just like what happened to Joshua, they cannot ignore the calling if they want to stay in the ring they have to fight each other.

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I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Anthony Joshua has stated multiple times in the past that he would rather not fight unless he is fighting another A class fighter.

Unlike Tyson Fury (for example) who has no issues with fighting the likes of Tom Schwartz and other low ranked fighters for a tickover, it seems AJ will only fight those in the top 20 or so.

This obviously causes matchmaking issues, but will eventually give fight fans the fights they want.

If that's what the fans wanted to happen, then they should grab that opportunity in order to avoid matchmaking issues.
As a boxer, he shouldn't be missing a good chance to have it as long as they're popular it wouldn't be a big deal. Just like Manny Pacquiao, he's willing to take all the possible good match regardless of weight issues.

You can't just go up and down weight classes without vacating your belts if you have mandatories.

This means AJ can't just go and beat everyone at Cruiserweight when there's nobody left to fight, otherwise he'll need to vacate the belts he has spent so long collecting.

Plus, he's probably too big to cut down to cruiserweight, it would ruin him.

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Quote from: Diced90 on January 01, 2020, 05:40:26 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 30, 2019, 05:09:52 PM

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Anthony Joshua has stated multiple times in the past that he would rather not fight unless he is fighting another A class fighter.

Unlike Tyson Fury (for example) who has no issues with fighting the likes of Tom Schwartz and other low ranked fighters for a tickover, it seems AJ will only fight those in the top 20 or so.

This obviously causes matchmaking issues, but will eventually give fight fans the fights they want.

If that's what the fans wanted to happen, then they should grab that opportunity in order to avoid matchmaking issues.
As a boxer, he shouldn't be missing a good chance to have it as long as they're popular it wouldn't be a big deal. Just like Manny Pacquiao, he's willing to take all the possible good match regardless of weight issues.

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Quote from: Diced90 on January 01, 2020, 05:40:26 PM

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I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Anthony Joshua has stated multiple times in the past that he would rather not fight unless he is fighting another A class fighter.

Unlike Tyson Fury (for example) who has no issues with fighting the likes of Tom Schwartz and other low ranked fighters for a tickover, it seems AJ will only fight those in the top 20 or so.

This obviously causes matchmaking issues, but will eventually give fight fans the fights they want.

I actually dont know when he made the statement you're talking about but the last time i checked what he said during his interview after the clash of the dunes was that he's already to fight Usyk, Pulev, Wilder, Fury etc cause he have to defend his title whenever he can.
When did he said hes not going to fight low rank fighters?

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 30, 2019, 05:09:52 PM

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Anthony Joshua has stated multiple times in the past that he would rather not fight unless he is fighting another A class fighter.

Unlike Tyson Fury (for example) who has no issues with fighting the likes of Tom Schwartz and other low ranked fighters for a tickover, it seems AJ will only fight those in the top 20 or so.

This obviously causes matchmaking issues, but will eventually give fight fans the fights they want.

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Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Theres no other choice but to deal with it yet its already mandated on the said fight which means we cant really stop on whose gonna he fight.
About those Wilder rejection issue then its just right for him to decline but sooner or later they will surely face up on the ring but for how AJ
would deal either those 2 low ranks than him.

Deal? He will definitely gave his fans a good reason to have total trust in him again because alot of his fans actually doubted his ability these days ever since his first fight with Ruiz but i believe it to be an easy win fight for Anthony.

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Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

Do you really see how they are avoiding the fight with Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua just won the rematch against Ruiz and if you take the Floyd Mayweather words he cannot be the A side to call the shots against an undefeated champion and with a stipulation where Joshua gets all the perks cannot be accepted and they are doing that to avoid the fight.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 01:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Theres no other choice but to deal with it yet its already mandated on the said fight which means we cant really stop on whose gonna he fight.
About those Wilder rejection issue then its just right for him to decline but sooner or later they will surely face up on the ring but for how AJ
would deal either those 2 low ranks than him.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 01:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 28, 2019, 09:08:04 PM

Yea, that's likely, but it is highly unlikely to be his next fight.

As it stands, Joshua's mandatories are Trevor Bryan for the WBA belt, Dillian Whyte for the WBC, Kubrat Pulev for the IBF and Usyk for his other two belts. Looking at this landscape, the easiest person to beat would obviously be Pulev since he already got beat by Dillian Whyte. Logically, it if Joshua is to fight three times next year he will get rid of Pulev first, then move on to Usyk or Whyte (probably Usyk) and then finish up with the winner of Wilder/Fury (so probably Fury).

This is a wildly optimistic timeline though, he'll probably fight someone like Kownacki or Jarell Miller as a tick over rather than a mandatory.

Joshua's mandatories are boring and it will be a bad year for heavyweight boxing fans after the Fury and Wilder fight. Yes I don't think Joshua would fancy Whyte as they have had some close calls in the past but Kownacki and jarell miller would be the safer options for him. Joshua has a lot to prove in his next big fight and I don't think I fancy him for either Wilder or Fury. The wilder and fury rematch is going to be one hell of a night just like last time. It was unbelievable how Fury got up after that massive combination from Wilder last time out but other than the combination Wilder did not do a lot.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on December 28, 2019, 08:30:23 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 01:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

Winner of the Fury Vs Wilder fight will be AJs opponent in 2021. Joshua will see of his mandatory opponents in 2020 to retain his belts. if the first is anything to go by from Wilder vs Fury we could be in for a great rematch and some very skillful boxing. I think Wilder might get a little luckier this time around and knock fury out. Joshua will probably fancy fighting fury more than Wilder due to Joshua being rocked a few times in his career and Wilder having that insane power. I think we will see Joshua trying to get into the head of fury before the rematch.

Dillian Whyte looks in terrible shape at the moment and if his last fight is anything to judge him on I don't think Joshua will be accepting a fight with him anytime soon.

Yea, that's likely, but it is highly unlikely to be his next fight.

As it stands, Joshua's mandatories are Trevor Bryan for the WBA belt, Dillian Whyte for the WBC, Kubrat Pulev for the IBF and Usyk for his other two belts. Looking at this landscape, the easiest person to beat would obviously be Pulev since he already got beat by Dillian Whyte. Logically, it if Joshua is to fight three times next year he will get rid of Pulev first, then move on to Usyk or Whyte (probably Usyk) and then finish up with the winner of Wilder/Fury (so probably Fury).

This is a wildly optimistic timeline though, he'll probably fight someone like Kownacki or Jarell Miller as a tick over rather than a mandatory.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 01:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

Winner of the Fury Vs Wilder fight will be AJs opponent in 2021. Joshua will see of his mandatory opponents in 2020 to retain his belts. if the first is anything to go by from Wilder vs Fury we could be in for a great rematch and some very skillful boxing. I think Wilder might get a little luckier this time around and knock fury out. Joshua will probably fancy fighting fury more than Wilder due to Joshua being rocked a few times in his career and Wilder having that insane power. I think we will see Joshua trying to get into the head of fury before the rematch.

Dillian Whyte looks in terrible shape at the moment and if his last fight is anything to judge him on I don't think Joshua will be accepting a fight with him anytime soon.

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Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

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Earlier this month in Saudi Arabia, Anthony Joshua reclaimed the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight titles when he won a twelve round unanimous decision over Andy Ruiz in their rematch.

Now Joshua has two mandatory obligations at the table - and both sanctioning organizations have ordered Joshua to make a defense.

The mandatory challenger under the WBO is Oleksandr Usyk, while the IBF has ordered Joshua to face Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-id-hate-vacate-belt-i-know-i-get-it-right-back--145418

So it seems that the boxing bodies is forcing Joshua to face his mandatories otherwise he will be strip of the titles or he needed to vacant it. So I guess he doesn't have the control on who he chooses to fight next because of the sanctioning bodies in boxing.

He wont really have have the choice but either to follow those mandatory fights if you dont like headaces later on.The thing here is that there 2 demanded fights on this one and it would really need some arrangements on which one he would tend to choose but if i were too speak then it would be more easier if he consider on selecting Usyk than Pulev first.Neither which one would start out he would really need to defend those belts.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 01:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

I know but if winning the fight is so such for him he would have go for it, get the undisputed title which will earn him more endorsement, promo recommendation which fetch him ridiculous money without doing anything but him time.
With that been said, i believe the statement made by Anthony after the Ruiz fight have clearly stated that he's not running from Wilders or Furys fight.

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Earlier this month in Saudi Arabia, Anthony Joshua reclaimed the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight titles when he won a twelve round unanimous decision over Andy Ruiz in their rematch.

Now Joshua has two mandatory obligations at the table - and both sanctioning organizations have ordered Joshua to make a defense.

The mandatory challenger under the WBO is Oleksandr Usyk, while the IBF has ordered Joshua to face Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-id-hate-vacate-belt-i-know-i-get-it-right-back--145418

So it seems that the boxing bodies is forcing Joshua to face his mandatories otherwise he will be strip of the titles or he needed to vacant it. So I guess he doesn't have the control on who he chooses to fight next because of the sanctioning bodies in boxing.

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Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

IMO, wilder should even be getting bigger as he is a more exciting fighter than AJ, and he is also undefeated that most of his wins are knockout.

I don't know why AJ would demand that high when I think he will even be the dog if he fight Wilder.

With Joshua with one lost and that was coming from stoppage and Wilder still undefeated, if he beats Fury, and they decide to sit down to negotiate, then it should be in Wilder's favor being an undefeated champion, in my opinion it should be 50- 50, they should do it for the fans and for their career's reputation.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 01:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

IMO, wilder should even be getting bigger as he is a more exciting fighter than AJ, and he is also undefeated that most of his wins are knockout.

I don't know why AJ would demand that high when I think he will even be the dog if he fight Wilder.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 01:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 01:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

So this is the most awaited fight when the best of the best will be seen fighting. This would be a great and unpredictable time to see how these guys will show off what they've got in the ring side. Every now and then their fans is very exciting to watch the fight of both powerful boxers.

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Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Nah. He already mentioned 4 (Tyson, Wilder, Usyk and Pulev) of them as his next opponent.

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He kept fighting unknown fighters that is why people can't never stopped or questioning who is a the real heavyweight champion, but now that he is expose because of his first fight against Ruiz, he really should face Wilder or Fury, for me a fight with any of these two great fighters will guaranteed him ticket as the best pound for pound great in this generation.

That would happen probably next year, if we keep calling that then for sure they will give us a chance.
Remember that they are in the business of money and if people want that fight they can give that fight.

AJ is soft, I don't know what would happen to him if he will fight Wilder TBH.

If you're saying this because Anthony have pretty face and gentle look then you're totally wrong because he a man that keep all still on the ring only while he act as a gentle man outside the ring.

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Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

I believe you're saying this because you don't know the in depth of the whole story because Anthony was ready for Wilder fight before Wilder reject the offer giving to him.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

It do have a high chance of Usyk would be the next possible opponent: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/10539326/anthony-joshua-wbo-oleksandr-usyk/
Its a mandatory one and they do have only a month to settle things up.So we cant still see Fury or Wilder on next. Would Usyk able to take those belt from Joshua?
This guy had high chances for sure.

Honestly, if this was just a speculation i won't have agree with what you said because Pulev seems to be the available opponent to be Anthony next fight. But if you read the whole article very well you'll understand that Usyk will actually face the winner between Anthony and Pulev.
@Baofeng, you're right and even Wilder thought the fight between Anthony and Ruiz was an easy fight but he don't understand that Anyhony fought by taking the right precaution to avoid his previous mistake.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

It do have a high chance of Usyk would be the next possible opponent: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/10539326/anthony-joshua-wbo-oleksandr-usyk/
Its a mandatory one and they do have only a month to settle things up.So we cant still see Fury or Wilder on next. Would Usyk able to take those belt from Joshua?
This guy had high chances for sure.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

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Quote from: aioc on December 12, 2019, 07:13:28 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

You're right about Wilder wanted to fight with Anthony but you're wrong when you said Anthony and his management to be depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavy weight realm because he actually talked about after his winning against Ruiz read the quote message and please to listen well or do your search very deep.

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Joshua said after his fight on Saturday night: "Oleksandr Usyk, Pulev, Ruiz, I don't want to mention the other guy's name, you know who they are, but when they're ready.

"I've fought a lot of great names on my record. I've beaten some good names as well and I'm looking forward to taking on more challenges. Andy is still on that list, because I think we make for good music. He's a good dancing partner. I'd love to unite the belts [against Wilder], but I think me chasing him, same as in the fights, if I'm chasing the right hand, I'm chasing the right hook, it may come crashing down.

"I realise that chasing that fight wasn't playing into my benefit. I've just going to let the path take its course. I've got great people managing me. I've got a great team, and when the opportunity presents itself to become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, you know me by now, I'll definitely step up and take the challenge."

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

Eventually Wilder and Joshua will have to face each other. Maybe Joshua doesn't want to mention Wilder's name because Wilder will have to face Fury first in Feb 2020. So if Wilder wins and he call out Joshua's name, then it's game on.

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Quote from: aioc on December 12, 2019, 07:13:28 AM

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

Deontey Wilder and Tyson Fury were always calling out Anthony Joshua to fight to determine the best heavyweight in the world but his management team and Anthony Joshua was always finding opponents to built up his brand rather than giving the fight fans what they wanted and that is what is expected this time too as you will be denied to see a epic fight in their prime, the Tyson Fury Wilder fight happened because Tyson took the initiative and the management of Wilder was reluctant but Wilder came out asking for the fight because he knew Tyson was coming back after a long lay back and it was the right opportunity to fight him but we all know what happened and i am looking for that rematch than anything else.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

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“With or without Wilder we’re still going to break records, but if Wilder really wants to put his name down in the history books, I think that he should come see us.” - Anthony Joshua

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-if-wilder-wants-name-history-books-come-see-us--145021

I think this is the best option for both fighter, assuming that Wilder will win on his next fight, we wanted to see Heavyweight being unified again and makes it more attractive and entertaining just like the 80's.

Right, this is a money fight, this has been brewing for years now, prior to Tyson Fury entering the HW division, talks of Wilder vs Joshua has been in the air for the last two years or so. They have built the hype already and it's about time to cash it out next year.

Of course mandatory fights are also good to give the number one fighter a crack, however, since boxing is a business, promoters are going to put a fight that can generate big money.

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“With or without Wilder we’re still going to break records, but if Wilder really wants to put his name down in the history books, I think that he should come see us.” - Anthony Joshua

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-if-wilder-wants-name-history-books-come-see-us--145021

I think this is the best option for both fighter, assuming that Wilder will win on his next fight, we wanted to see Heavyweight being unified again and makes it more attractive and entertaining just like the 80's.

That's correct and I have the feelings that Wilder will win the upcoming fight between him and Fury because of the video Fury posted on couple of days on Instagram insulting Wilder.
I'm sure he will want to make Fury take back his words.

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Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Anthony Joshua is making a ton of money even though he was not facing top fighters and once he tried something different he got a shock of his lifetime and now he will be careful about that and he will be taking a few easy fights and make some money before fighting either Tyson Fury or Deontey Wilder as both are his toughest fights in his career and i do not see Anthony Joshua defeated them in the near future.

He treat boxing as business then we will not see a good fight against him, big fights is what we like to see, AJ and Wilder are probably gonna make both earn a big paycheck but the risk is, it could ruined their career whoever loss the fight.

Still, looking forward of this happening as they are the big names in the heavyweight division and just like Manny Pacman who is not afraid of fighting anyone, I hope they have that kind of heart and mentality.

If AJ will will not fight Wilder, then he could be like Mayweather.

Boxing is money-making business after all.
If you can get an advantage over your next opponent, why not?
But sometimes, you need to give a good fight inside the ring to revive the interest of boxing fans.
Otherwise, you will not sell your next fight. A matter of strategy I guess.

You're right because Anthony Joshua experience such thing cause some of his fans doubt his winning against Ruiz Jr in their second fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Anthony Joshua is making a ton of money even though he was not facing top fighters and once he tried something different he got a shock of his lifetime and now he will be careful about that and he will be taking a few easy fights and make some money before fighting either Tyson Fury or Deontey Wilder as both are his toughest fights in his career and i do not see Anthony Joshua defeated them in the near future.

He treat boxing as business then we will not see a good fight against him, big fights is what we like to see, AJ and Wilder are probably gonna make both earn a big paycheck but the risk is, it could ruined their career whoever loss the fight.

Still, looking forward of this happening as they are the big names in the heavyweight division and just like Manny Pacman who is not afraid of fighting anyone, I hope they have that kind of heart and mentality.

If AJ will will not fight Wilder, then he could be like Mayweather.

Boxing is money-making business after all.
If you can get an advantage over your next opponent, why not?
But sometimes, you need to give a good fight inside the ring to revive the interest of boxing fans.
Otherwise, you will not sell your next fight. A matter of strategy I guess.

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I think this is the best option for both fighter, assuming that Wilder will win on his next fight, we wanted to see Heavyweight being unified again and makes it more attractive and entertaining just like the 80's.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Anthony Joshua is making a ton of money even though he was not facing top fighters and once he tried something different he got a shock of his lifetime and now he will be careful about that and he will be taking a few easy fights and make some money before fighting either Tyson Fury or Deontey Wilder as both are his toughest fights in his career and i do not see Anthony Joshua defeated them in the near future.

He treat boxing as business then we will not see a good fight against him, big fights is what we like to see, AJ and Wilder are probably gonna make both earn a big paycheck but the risk is, it could ruined their career whoever loss the fight.

Still, looking forward of this happening as they are the big names in the heavyweight division and just like Manny Pacman who is not afraid of fighting anyone, I hope they have that kind of heart and mentality.

If AJ will will not fight Wilder, then he could be like Mayweather.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

I don't think any of the two will be Anthony next fight because Tyson and Wilder fight was said to take place on February 22 next year while Usyk was planning to face Chisora and Kubrat Pulev is the only fighter which seems to be available to be Anthony next opponent but the Champ is ready for the 5 (Fury, Wilder, Oleksandr Usyk, Pulev and Ruiz) of them.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 11:35:07 AM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Anthony Joshua is making a ton of money even though he was not facing top fighters and once he tried something different he got a shock of his lifetime and now he will be careful about that and he will be taking a few easy fights and make some money before fighting either Tyson Fury or Deontey Wilder as both are his toughest fights in his career and i do not see Anthony Joshua defeated them in the near future.

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Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

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Anthony Joshua Made a great deal in defeating Ruiz but I as well didn't feel any excitement watching their fight I think Anthony Joshua is smart with his movement and pretty much Oleksandr Usyk recent made a statement that he wants to fight Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, and Tyson Fury in an interview I think it is up to Joshua to return that call, I think that Oleksandr Usyk had what it takes to make a match with Anthony Joshua, let's just wait if their managers and promoters will make some progress about this.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 10, 2019, 10:17:17 AM

It really should happen they must not deprive the boxing fans for a great fight, imagine if Ruiz won the match, there's not going to be a chance to see a Wilder- Ruiz fight, I want them to fight both of them champions, so we will only have one face of the heavyweight in this era and can proclaim himself as the best heavyweight boxer of this generation.

This is going to be a Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne copy/paste fight and it will end quickly. Stiverne is the same fatty as Ruiz, and has same hard punch.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 09, 2019, 09:46:43 PM

He kept fighting unknown fighters that is why people can't never stopped or questioning who is a the real heavyweight champion, but now that he is expose because of his first fight against Ruiz, he really should face Wilder or Fury, for me a fight with any of these two great fighters will guaranteed him ticket as the best pound for pound great in this generation.

That would happen probably next year, if we keep calling that then for sure they will give us a chance.
Remember that they are in the business of money and if people want that fight they can give that fight.

AJ is soft, I don't know what would happen to him if he will fight Wilder TBH.

It really should happen they must not deprive the boxing fans for a great fight, imagine if Ruiz won the match, there's not going to be a chance to see a Wilder- Joshua fight, I want them to fight both of them champions, so we will only have one face of the heavyweight in this era and can proclaim himself as the best heavyweight boxer of this generation.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 09, 2019, 09:46:43 PM

He kept fighting unknown fighters that is why people can't never stopped or questioning who is a the real heavyweight champion, but now that he is expose because of his first fight against Ruiz, he really should face Wilder or Fury, for me a fight with any of these two great fighters will guaranteed him ticket as the best pound for pound great in this generation.

That would happen probably next year, if we keep calling that then for sure they will give us a chance.
Remember that they are in the business of money and if people want that fight they can give that fight.

AJ is soft, I don't know what would happen to him if he will fight Wilder TBH.

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This last go around with RUIZ JR. was not so entertaining but he did what was required of him to win his belts back
I for one would not mind seeing another candidate to fight AJ instead of setting up the trilogy.
It will be not any different then this last time with AJ winning with his jab and by him staying at a distance

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He kept fighting unknown fighters that is why people can't never stopped or questioning who is a the real heavyweight champion, but now that he is expose because of his first fight against Ruiz, he really should face Wilder or Fury, for me a fight with any of these two great fighters will guaranteed him ticket as the best pound for pound great in this generation.

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Quote from: robelneo on December 09, 2019, 06:16:02 AM

but the most interesting fight that worth a mega fight is a fight with either, Wilder or Fury.

We want this but this will not happen if AJ can't defend his title on his next fight.

He is not undefeated anymore, and I believe his opponent will not treat him special anymore, and they will be confident since they know he got beaten up one time by a fat guy.

Ruiz is not really that of a good boxer, he was just lucky to hurt AJ in their first fight and we all witness how AJ schooled him in the 2nd fight.
His name (Ruiz) is out in the circulation anymore, people not even talking anymore of a trilogy of this two because they know it might end up the same.

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Quote from: posi on December 09, 2019, 05:04:13 PM

I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

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Quote from: Harlot on December 09, 2019, 03:43:19 PM

Quote from: uray on December 09, 2019, 11:21:17 AM

Quote from: Jating on December 09, 2019, 06:44:34 AM

(3) Winner of Wilder vs Fury II.
So it's either Hearn, who manages Joshua put up a step aside money so that Joshua can fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury and unify the Heavyweight belt. And there's a lot of money for sure that it's hard to resist for both parties.

Everyone likes to see a fight between either Wilder or Fury and Anthony Joshua but who ever it may be i will go against Anthony Joshua if he is facing either Wilder or Fury as they are more durable and will never quit when the going gets tough like he did against Ruiz in the first fight and the second fight was a calculated approach with a good game plan.
Anyone expecting a rematch between Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte next.

With the years of only talking trash to each other and dodging any kind of agreement for a fight I think it's safe to say that a match between AJ against one of those guys won't happen after Wilder vs. Fury II, the fight won't even happen if they didn't ended up with a draw. So after this match we would only see a lot of media noise yet no major agreements will happen only taunts and noise. I think this year they would just defend their belts on a subpar pro boxer just for the sake of keeping their belts but it still depends on how much money is involve if they really want to face each other.

I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

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Quote from: uray on December 09, 2019, 11:21:17 AM

Quote from: Jating on December 09, 2019, 06:44:34 AM

(3) Winner of Wilder vs Fury II.
So it's either Hearn, who manages Joshua put up a step aside money so that Joshua can fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury and unify the Heavyweight belt. And there's a lot of money for sure that it's hard to resist for both parties.

Everyone likes to see a fight between either Wilder or Fury and Anthony Joshua but who ever it may be i will go against Anthony Joshua if he is facing either Wilder or Fury as they are more durable and will never quit when the going gets tough like he did against Ruiz in the first fight and the second fight was a calculated approach with a good game plan.
Anyone expecting a rematch between Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte next.

Yep, a fight with either Fury or Wilder should be next, however, there are boxing politics here so I doubt that AJ will face either one of them next. Maybe just the mandatory for his next fight with less risk, and let Wilder or Fury trash talk him. Until it will build up a momentum later in 2020 and probably set up in 2021. For now, I'm seeing AJ fighting his mandatories and taking it easy for his next fight.

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Quote from: uray on December 09, 2019, 11:21:17 AM

Quote from: Jating on December 09, 2019, 06:44:34 AM

(3) Winner of Wilder vs Fury II.
So it's either Hearn, who manages Joshua put up a step aside money so that Joshua can fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury and unify the Heavyweight belt. And there's a lot of money for sure that it's hard to resist for both parties.

Everyone likes to see a fight between either Wilder or Fury and Anthony Joshua but who ever it may be i will go against Anthony Joshua if he is facing either Wilder or Fury as they are more durable and will never quit when the going gets tough like he did against Ruiz in the first fight and the second fight was a calculated approach with a good game plan.
Anyone expecting a rematch between Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte next.

With the years of only talking trash to each other and dodging any kind of agreement for a fight I think it's safe to say that a match between AJ against one of those guys won't happen after Wilder vs. Fury II, the fight won't even happen if they didn't ended up with a draw. So after this match we would only see a lot of media noise yet no major agreements will happen only taunts and noise. I think this year they would just defend their belts on a subpar pro boxer just for the sake of keeping their belts but it still depends on how much money is involve if they really want to face each other.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 09, 2019, 07:26:44 AM

I would also, as a boxing fan, wanted to see him fight either Wilder or Fury next. Those two predicted that Ruiz will smashed AJ, meaning there's some kind of animosity and that storyboard will make the fight more dramatic with so much emotions involved.

I don't like those mandatories, no names with little incentives money wise for AJ.

I would like to see this man really work out for his words, and I am not confident with just trash talks. All I wanted is reality and not speculative promises, because you'll be funny moron while the actual phase of the game won't subside with the thoughts of this aggressive boxer. Just like what Pacquiao and Thurman's fight, the unexpected one hit him remarkably.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 09, 2019, 04:45:16 AM

I can say both fighters have great record and either of them is a good match with AJ. TBH, what I really like to see soon is AJ to fight the winner of Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder fight.

I think that is what we all want to watch, I am tired of waiting, they have danced around this subject for long enough, at least Wilder and Fury already fought each other and will do it again, if there is not a fight between Joshua and one of those two then it is clear that he does not believe he can beat them and he is avoiding them.

But I really believe he will fight either Usyk or Pulev and we have to hope he does not lose again or we may have to wait until he fights once again to recover his titles.

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Quote from: Jating on December 09, 2019, 06:44:34 AM

(3) Winner of Wilder vs Fury II.
So it's either Hearn, who manages Joshua put up a step aside money so that Joshua can fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury and unify the Heavyweight belt. And there's a lot of money for sure that it's hard to resist for both parties.

Everyone likes to see a fight between either Wilder or Fury and Anthony Joshua but who ever it may be i will go against Anthony Joshua if he is facing either Wilder or Fury as they are more durable and will never quit when the going gets tough like he did against Ruiz in the first fight and the second fight was a calculated approach with a good game plan.
Anyone expecting a rematch between Anthony Joshua and Dillian Whyte next.

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Quote from: posi on December 09, 2019, 09:55:57 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2019, 07:13:47 AM

For now, AJ has a handful of options for his next fight. The team would be back to the table planning which opponent is the best one that would give them money, the entertainment, and the value. I would personally want to see a nice match between AJ and the winner of Wilder and Fury.

[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/489315/anthony-joshua-andy-ruiz-result-wins-news-boxing-live/

There will definitely be a fight between the winner of Wilder and Fury fight but it will be around Q3 of next year before we can witness such occasion.

First of all, with the news I read, I believe Anthony will have another fight early next year against Pulev while Usyk goes against Chisora. Concern the fight between Anthony and the winner of Wilder vs Fury match, I think that will happen after Pulev fight not the Q3 you mentioned because the Champ seems to be ready for any fight that comes his way.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 09, 2019, 04:45:16 AM

Another article with a similar content,.. Joshua in Line To Fight at Tottenham Stadium - Usyk or Pulev

I am not familiar with the 2 boxers that could be his next opponent and with that I have to make some research.

Oleksandr Usyk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Usyk

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Total fights   17
Wins   17
Wins by KO   13
Losses   0

Kubrat Pulev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubrat_Pulev

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Total fights   29
Wins   28
Wins by KO   14
Losses   1

I can say both fighters have great record and either of them is a good match with AJ. TBH, what I really like to see soon is AJ to fight the winner of Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder fight.

Also checked the record of the mentioned opponent and I as impressed but I also believe Usyk is somehow impatient and it could land him into early defeat fight just like AJ during his first fight with Ruiz.

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2019, 07:13:47 AM

Quote from: posi on December 09, 2019, 04:18:05 AM

A lot of people have doubt is ability but he shocked the world by regaining his lost heavy weight title through stylish and sophisticated point in Saudi Arabia some days ago.
The WBO president have once said "immediately after AJ regained his heavy weight title that he would be obliged to defend it against Usyk in six months while Eddie Hearn believed AJ next opponent to be Kubrat Pulev. The question is who will be Anyhony next fight?

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"Stylish and sophisticated" it could be considered. Some others would say it was a brilliant fight. Others would say it was a masterful show of performance. But Wilder wasn't amazed at AJ's boxing, even summarized it as 'just dance and grab and jab and hold' and even said he won't ever be fighting that way.^[1] Well, that's why others considered the 12-round match as boring but perhaps it was just exactly what AJ needed.

Glad you understand that the fight which Wilder believed was a grab and jab is what Anthony needed due to his previous mistake and his career/records are on the line. Besides, he was on haste to finish the first fight was what get him in trouble and I don't blame if he claim down to make the fight boring cause him winning is very important.

Quote from: Darker45 on December 09, 2019, 07:13:47 AM

For now, AJ has a handful of options for his next fight. The team would be back to the table planning which opponent is the best one that would give the money, the entertainment, and the value. I would personally want to see a nice match between AJ and the winner of Wilder and Fury.

[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/489315/anthony-joshua-andy-ruiz-result-wins-news-boxing-live/

There will definitely be a fight between the winner of Wilder and Fury fight but it will be around Q3 of next year before we can witness such occasion.

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Quote from: xZork on December 09, 2019, 08:02:17 AM

One vote for Oleksandr Usyk, although AJ "muscles" play very well but I still prefer Oleksandr Usyk.
Usyk won gold medals at the 2011 World Championships and 2012 Olympics, both in heavyweight. He became professional in 2013 and won the undisputed heavyweight cruiser championship in the 15th professional battle of 2018. With his track record, Usyk has been named the Warrior of the Year. 2018 by Sports Illustrated, ESPN, The Ring, and American Boxing Writers Association.
With all those achievements, I believe that Oleksandr Usyk will win.

Usyk had only 1 debup fight in heavyweight (advanced from cruiserweight). His oponent was only Nr.75 in the world rating. Do you think he is prepared for the speed and punch power of that division? Do you think it will be smart to throw him against top1-3 boxer in "heavy" ? Cheesy

Kubrat Pulev - natural heavyweight, will be the most suitable next oponent for AJ.

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One vote for Oleksandr Usyk, although AJ "muscles" play very well but I still prefer Oleksandr Usyk.
Usyk won gold medals at the 2011 World Championships and 2012 Olympics, both in heavyweight. He became professional in 2013 and won the undisputed heavyweight cruiser championship in the 15th professional battle of 2018. With his track record, Usyk has been named the Warrior of the Year. 2018 by Sports Illustrated, ESPN, The Ring, and American Boxing Writers Association.
With all those achievements, I believe that Oleksandr Usyk will win.

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I would also, as a boxing fan, wanted to see him fight either Wilder or Fury next. Those two predicted that Ruiz will smashed AJ, meaning there's some kind of animosity and that storyboard will make the fight more dramatic with so much emotions involved.

I don't like those mandatories, no names with little incentives money wise for AJ.

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Quote from: posi on December 09, 2019, 04:18:05 AM

A lot of people have doubt is ability but he shocked the world by regaining his lost heavy weight title through stylish and sophisticated point in Saudi Arabia some days ago.
The WBO president have once said "immediately after AJ regained his heavy weight title that he would be obliged to defend it against Usyk in six months while Eddie Hearn believed AJ next opponent to be Kubrat Pulev. The question is who will be Anyhony next fight?

Source

"Stylish and sophisticated" it could be considered. Some others would say it was a brilliant fight. Others would say it was a masterful show of performance. But Wilder wasn't amazed at AJ's boxing, even summarized it as 'just dance and grab and jab and hold' and even said he won't ever be fighting that way.^[1] Well, that's why others considered the 12-round match as boring but perhaps it was just exactly what AJ needed.

For now, AJ has a handful of options for his next fight. The team would be back to the table planning which opponent is the best one that would give the money, the entertainment, and the value. I would personally want to see a nice match between AJ and the winner of Wilder and Fury.

[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/489315/anthony-joshua-andy-ruiz-result-wins-news-boxing-live/

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His next fight is where there is a lot of incentive with less risk.

(1) Usyk - a bloated Cruiserweight who just move to Heavyweight in his last fight. Mandatory for Joshua's WBO belt

(2) Pulev - mandatory for the IBF belt.

(3) Winner of Wilder vs Fury II.

So it's either Hearn, who manages Joshua put up a step aside money so that Joshua can fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury and unify the Heavyweight belt. And there's a lot of money for sure that it's hard to resist for both parties.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 09, 2019, 04:45:16 AM

Another article with a similar content,.. Joshua in Line To Fight at Tottenham Stadium - Usyk or Pulev

I am not familiar with the 2 boxers that could be his next opponent and with that I have to make some research.

Oleksandr Usyk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Usyk

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Total fights   17
Wins   17
Wins by KO   13
Losses   0

Kubrat Pulev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubrat_Pulev

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Total fights   29
Wins   28
Wins by KO   14
Losses   1

I can say both fighters have great record and either of them is a good match with AJ. TBH, what I really like to see soon is AJ to fight the winner of Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder fight.

I have seen Usyk fight , and I thought Usyk is a much more worthy opponent because of his style that is nore similar to Klitchko but this one is a much strong and younger version, this fight is more interesting than a fight to Kubrat Pulev, but the most interesting fight that worth a mega fight is a fight with either, Wilder or Fury.

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Another article with a similar content,.. Joshua in Line To Fight at Tottenham Stadium - Usyk or Pulev

I am not familiar with the 2 boxers that could be his next opponent and with that I have to make some research.

Oleksandr Usyk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Usyk

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Total fights   17
Wins   17
Wins by KO   13
Losses   0

Kubrat Pulev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubrat_Pulev

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Total fights   29
Wins   28
Wins by KO   14
Losses   1

I can say both fighters have great record and either of them is a good match with AJ. TBH, what I really like to see soon is AJ to fight the winner of Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder fight.

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Create this thread since the AJ vs Ruiz jr rematch has ended and I believe talking about Anthony next opponent on this threed is somehow off-topic.

A lot of people have doubt is ability but he shocked the world by regaining his lost heavy weight title through stylish and sophistication point in Saudi Arabia some days ago.
The WBO president have once said "immediately after AJ regained his heavy weight title that he would be obliged to defend it heavyweight in six months while Eddie Hearn believed AJ next opponent to be Kubrat Pulev. The question is who wi, next opponent,s next fight?

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