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It's not surprising, ISIS have gained the trust of the people

No. The ISIS has gained the trust of the fanatics, although they don't enjoy the same sort of support among the general population. Their social media campaign was very successful. They posted the beheading videos and other media stuff, which attracted a lot of fanatics, schizophrenics and sadists towards them.

That is true, but it cannot have so much of success without getting help from the local people. There has to be large number of Iraqi residents supporting ISIS. Even though there are many news that ISIS has kidnapped, raped and tortured many girls and women over there, but still there has to be huge support for them.
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Worst of all is that every day are closer to Europe, and it seems that no one can or wants to fight them. What happens if they presented in a few kilometers from the European border?.I hope that someone will stop soon.

Lol.... the ISIS is already operating inside the European Union. Some 5,000 (probably more) European Union citizens are currently fighting with the ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Also, there were reports that the black flags of ISIS are openly displayed in a few locations within Europe (Kosovo, Bosnia.etc). Given the volume of immigration from the Sub Saharan Africa and Syria towards the EU, I believe that it'll be only a matter of time before the ISIS conducts its first major operation there.
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Worst of all is that every day are closer to Europe, and it seems that no one can or wants to fight them.

thats the problem, seems like they are conquering its target, i mean to put fear into them, and is not something that is happend in the last months no no, is something that is being happening during long time ago.

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Worst of all is that every day are closer to Europe, and it seems that no one can or wants to fight them. What happens if they presented in a few kilometers from the European border?.I hope that someone will stop soon.
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It's not surprising, ISIS have gained the trust of the people

No. The ISIS has gained the trust of the fanatics, although they don't enjoy the same sort of support among the general population. Their social media campaign was very successful. They posted the beheading videos and other media stuff, which attracted a lot of fanatics, schizophrenics and sadists towards them.
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Al Qaeda leaders say group near collapse amid rise of ISIS, report claims

Two of Al Qaeda's spiritual leaders have said that the terror organization is barely functioning after losing money and manpower to the rapidly rising Islamic State group, according to a report.

Abu Qatada and Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi have described Al Qaeda as being without "organizational structure," the Guardian reports. Maqdisi said Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri is isolated from his top lieutenants and "operates solely based on the allegiance.

"There is no organizational structure. There is only communication channels, and loyalty," he reportedly said.

Qatada, who was deported to Jordan from Britain in 2013 to face terrorism charges, also acknowledges that ISIS has gotten the better of Al Qaeda in the propaganda wars as well as those fought on the battlefield.

The Guardian report traces the beginning of Al Qaeda's downfall to the ascension of Zawahiri as Al Qaeda's leader following the death of Usama bin Laden in May 2011. While Zawahiri has been forced to move in secret in the remote mountain regions along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, hundreds of thousands of militants have flocked to the new battlefields in Syria and Iraq.

"What is leadership," asked Dr. Munif Samara, an Al Qaeda associate quoted in the report, "if your leader is in Afghanistan and your soldiers are in Iraq?"


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/11/al-qaeda-leaders-say-group-has-collapsed-amid-rise-isis-report-claims/


It's not surprising, ISIS have gained the trust of the people, their agenda and the way the represent it has gotten them the popular support and hence Al Qaeda and other such organisations are losing their support.
Organized, clear agendas, and enough money and that touch of insanity. That's what making them expand.
It's sad really, very unfortunate.
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What ISIS is offering that all the radical muslim terroristic groups are joining them? Are they really going to build the world halifat and destroy everything thats stands in they way? I have a feeling they exists until they are expanding.

The ISIS is better funded, and way better organized, when compared to the Al Qaeda. That said, the various factions which have pledged allegiance to them are not motivated by the supplies of money or weapons. They are motivated by the sort of success, which the ISIS has achieved in Iraq and Syria. Even at the peak of their power, the Al Qaeda was unable to control sizable tracts of territory.
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Qatada, who was deported to Jordan from Britain in 2013 to face terrorism charges, also acknowledges that ISIS has gotten the better of Al Qaeda in the propaganda wars as well as those fought on the battlefield.

This was bound to happen. The twin tower strikes were Al Qaida's high points. Post Osama's execution, they have been rudderless.
ISIS, on the other hand, has dominated headlines for the past 1 year.
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Most of the factions which had earlier pledged their allegiance to the Al Qaeda, such as the Afghan Taliban and the al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) have simply defected to the ISIS. Some are still supporting the Al Qaeda, like the Al-Shabaab of Somalia, al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS), Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), al-Nusra Front, and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. But it is just a matter of time before they too defect to the ISIS.

What ISIS is offering that all the radical muslim terroristic groups are joining them? Are they really going to build the world halifat and destroy everything thats stands in they way? I have a feeling they exists until they are expanding.
legendary
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Most of the factions which had earlier pledged their allegiance to the Al Qaeda, such as the Afghan Taliban and the al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) have simply defected to the ISIS. Some are still supporting the Al Qaeda, like the Al-Shabaab of Somalia, al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS), Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), al-Nusra Front, and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. But it is just a matter of time before they too defect to the ISIS.
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Al Qaeda leaders say group near collapse amid rise of ISIS, report claims

Two of Al Qaeda's spiritual leaders have said that the terror organization is barely functioning after losing money and manpower to the rapidly rising Islamic State group, according to a report.

Abu Qatada and Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi have described Al Qaeda as being without "organizational structure," the Guardian reports. Maqdisi said Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri is isolated from his top lieutenants and "operates solely based on the allegiance.

"There is no organizational structure. There is only communication channels, and loyalty," he reportedly said.

Qatada, who was deported to Jordan from Britain in 2013 to face terrorism charges, also acknowledges that ISIS has gotten the better of Al Qaeda in the propaganda wars as well as those fought on the battlefield.

The Guardian report traces the beginning of Al Qaeda's downfall to the ascension of Zawahiri as Al Qaeda's leader following the death of Usama bin Laden in May 2011. While Zawahiri has been forced to move in secret in the remote mountain regions along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, hundreds of thousands of militants have flocked to the new battlefields in Syria and Iraq.

"What is leadership," asked Dr. Munif Samara, an Al Qaeda associate quoted in the report, "if your leader is in Afghanistan and your soldiers are in Iraq?"


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/11/al-qaeda-leaders-say-group-has-collapsed-amid-rise-isis-report-claims/
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