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August 03, 2016, 04:03:09 AM
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Yep I agree with it.  My uncle before died because of liver cancer.  It is because of his too much alcohol drinking starting when he was on his teenage days up to his adulthood.  Now he is dead.  And it is also the condition of my cousin who is deluging himself with alcohol like a water.  He drinks it even in the morning.  It is like his alternative for coffee. Grin
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Alcohol can cause cancer if you drink it too much but if you are not drinking alcohol too much ot can be healthy for your organs inside your body.They are many proofs that alcohol is healty if you dont drink too much.So if you want drink alcohol buy it in Croatia because best alcohol is in Croatia.Croatia is 3rd im drinking alcohol in Europe.Best beers in whole world are Osječko,Karlovačko and Sokol.

Though I don't really know anything about how small amounts of alcohol can be healthy, but I agree with the first part of your statement.

I think alcohol becomes really dangerous and may cause diseases like cancer only when someone drinks too much for many years.
Of course, there might be some congenital problems with liver or kidneys, or some other deseases like HCV that degrade the work of somebody's organs...but this cases are rare I think, because people in these conditions know that they shouldn't mess up with alcohol at all.
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Gloire à la Victoire !
A way to legitimate Islam ? I'd rather live not that long with pleasure that long without any substance and most people will agree with me.
Let me disagree with you . Life is good! Why spoil it with alcohol ?! Drunk people do not live their lives . Do you agree to share their years of alcoholism with a demon ?! Is not it better to spend this time with friends and family ? At least , it will be much more useful.

Of course yes. I'm not talking about strong alcoholism, but about people drinking a cup of wine everyday, as a little pleasure.
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What does it mean when we say that a substance causes cancer? It most certainly doesn't mean that if a person is exposed to that substance he would get cancer. What it means is that exposure to that substance increases the risk.
You are right, its a higher probability. Pollution of cars, smoking, there are many things that could increase the risk. The solution lies with better treatment, even animals can get cancer and they never smoke or drink
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The toxins in alcohol kill the good healthy cells in the liver over time, which causes you to develop cirrhosis, which is liver cancer.
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What does it mean when we say that a substance causes cancer? It most certainly doesn't mean that if a person is exposed to that substance he would get cancer. What it means is that exposure to that substance increases the risk.
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Alcohol affects the liver. Most liver cancer or someone having a liver cirrhosis are from alcoholic though there are also started from fatty liver. Yes, curcumin is a good one to cleanse the liver and some other form of cancer. Better combined with pepper as the curcumin is activated with heat.
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A way to legitimate Islam ? I'd rather live not that long with pleasure that long without any substance and most people will agree with me.
Let me disagree with you . Life is good! Why spoil it with alcohol ?! Drunk people do not live their lives . Do you agree to share their years of alcoholism with a demon ?! Is not it better to spend this time with friends and family ? At least , it will be much more useful.
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Alcohol can cause cancer if you drink it too much but if you are not drinking alcohol too much ot can be healthy for your organs inside your body.They are many proofs that alcohol is healty if you dont drink too much.So if you want drink alcohol buy it in Croatia because best alcohol is in Croatia.Croatia is 3rd im drinking alcohol in Europe.Best beers in whole world are Osječko,Karlovačko and Sokol.
Everything in life should be in moderation . Both alcohol , including . Good beer is of course good. But the best of good vodka , there is no where better ! ; ) Well, where do a good vodka , you should know without me . There was a time when the vodka schetayu standard .
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Look at that irony, weed is illegal, and her influence on cancer cells are to prevent or slow grove.. hmmm why humans do such obvious mistakes?
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Gloire à la Victoire !
A way to legitimate Islam ? I'd rather live not that long with pleasure that long without any substance and most people will agree with me.
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Its currently thought that animals (including people) have a biological drive towards alcohol as a way to incentivise the consumption of fruit. Since alcohol naturally occurs to some extent in all ripe fruit, by having a biological system that craves alcohol, human evolution has created more motivation to eat nutrient rich foods (fruit). Pretty much the exact same thing can be said about sugar. Sugars are most naturally occuring in high nutrient/mineral/energy rich fruits, and as such, its thought that we crave sugar to insure don't eat the wrong types of foods for what our bodies need.

Based on those two things, the best explanation I can think of, is that human biology did not expect us to figure out how to concentrate things. Sugar is obscenely bad for people because we have figured out how to strip it from nutrient rich sources, and add it to whatever we want. I'd guess the same holds true about alcohol. If it was bad for us, it wouldn't be a biological prerogative to ingest it. Like with all things, I'd say people need to stop overthinking everything before we classify everything as a carcinogen, and rather get a better understanding of moderation rather than trying to cut everything "bad" out.

As the saying goes, "Too much of everything is bad." The alcohol level in fruits is not sufficient to harm the liver, the alcohol level in beer, wine and other strong drinks is sufficient to harm the body.

It all depends on how resilient your body cells are, some get away with alcohol while others don't.
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yes there is no doubt about this. islam also teach and strongly forbidden from drinking  alchole. islam has even consider the activity of making the alchole the supply the supporting activities as a sin.
well I think small amount of alcohol per week doesn't do much harm. By the way there are many products that are much harmful than alcohol for causing cancer. I don't believe that drinking should be forbidden.
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Even with all the caution signs and warnings about alcohol, we still won't be able to stop people from drinking. its same thing with cigarette.
Alcohol is the preferred drugs of all time.
US alcohol ban in the past is evidence of this. Ban is not the solution, pollution, manipulated food.. there are many causes for cancer.
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Even with all the caution signs and warnings about alcohol, we still won't be able to stop people from drinking. its same thing with cigarette.
Alcohol is the preferred drugs of all time.

Alcohol can cause cancer if you drink it too much but if you are not drinking alcohol too much ot can be healthy for your organs inside your body.They are many proofs that alcohol is healty if you dont drink too much.So if you want drink alcohol buy it in Croatia because best alcohol is in Croatia.Croatia is 3rd im drinking alcohol in Europe.Best beers in whole world are Osječko,Karlovačko and Sokol.

Thats also true. even the catholic priest drink alcohol Smiley
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They are many proofs that alcohol is healty if you dont drink too much.

Please, not make a mistake between "J effect" on cardio vascolar diseases and moderate consumption of 1 liter of beer per day.

Here is about cancer.

Please, give Your links about relationship between cancer and alcohol. They might be in croatian.

But, please only in relations with "cancer".
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Alcohol can cause cancer if you drink it too much but if you are not drinking alcohol too much ot can be healthy for your organs inside your body.They are many proofs that alcohol is healty if you dont drink too much.So if you want drink alcohol buy it in Croatia because best alcohol is in Croatia.Croatia is 3rd im drinking alcohol in Europe.Best beers in whole world are Osječko,Karlovačko and Sokol.
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I think the study isn't done well on a relative level.  

This people are not journalists. Check their site, many interesting researches.

The "moderate consumption" and cardio-vascolar diseases is one thing, but cancer is another one.

The research call the attention on cancer cause, and it will be certainly checked by someone else.

But the Alcohol Producers and dealers have the large possibility to create rumors in the Media to hide some researches.

For me from today is the rule - no beer, no wine and no other stronger beverages.

Only Kefir at 3%.
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I think the study isn't done well on a relative level.  Came across this article which discusses the relative risks of alcohol. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.13477/full . The study sort of is a little more scary than what the truth is.
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islam also teach and strongly forbidden from drinking  alchole

There is nothing about alcohol in the Quran.
Why here is the arabian word al-kuhul?

Who ban under Sharia Law this liquid for muslims is the affair of muslims.
Non Muslims are not affected by using it under the Sharia Law.



Foreign delegates, diplomats and foreign embassies have exemption in Saudi Arabia for this ban.

sr. member
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yes there is no doubt about this. islam also teach and strongly forbidden from drinking  alchole. islam has even consider the activity of making the alchole the supply the supporting activities as a sin.
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people need to stop overthinking

The study show the connection of any alcohol consumption.
The human body produce no 40° Alcohol.

This study show that the most damage give over 12° grad alcohol consumption.

Cancer is a hard event.
Eat curcumin pills.
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Its currently thought that animals (including people) have a biological drive towards alcohol as a way to incentivise the consumption of fruit. Since alcohol naturally occurs to some extent in all ripe fruit, by having a biological system that craves alcohol, human evolution has created more motivation to eat nutrient rich foods (fruit). Pretty much the exact same thing can be said about sugar. Sugars are most naturally occuring in high nutrient/mineral/energy rich fruits, and as such, its thought that we crave sugar to insure don't eat the wrong types of foods for what our bodies need.

Based on those two things, the best explanation I can think of, is that human biology did not expect us to figure out how to concentrate things. Sugar is obscenely bad for people because we have figured out how to strip it from nutrient rich sources, and add it to whatever we want. I'd guess the same holds true about alcohol. If it was bad for us, it wouldn't be a biological prerogative to ingest it. Like with all things, I'd say people need to stop overthinking everything before we classify everything as a carcinogen, and rather get a better understanding of moderation rather than trying to cut everything "bad" out.
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There is strong evidence that alcohol causes cancer at seven sites, and probably others.
 The measured associations exhibit gradients of effect that are biologically plausible, and there is some evidence of reversibility of risk in laryngeal, pharyngeal and liver cancers when consumption ceases.
The limitations of cohort studies mean that the true effects may be somewhat weaker or stronger than estimated currently, but unlikely to be qualitatively different (e.g. to not exist or to be J-shaped).

Ongoing research will elucidate mechanisms more clearly and increase confidence in the epidemiology.
At the same time there will be orchestrated attempts to discredit the science and the researchers, and to confuse the public. The stakes are high for alcohol industries when there is no argument, on current evidence, for a safe level of drinking with respect to cancer.
Promotion of health benefits from drinking at moderate levels is seen increasingly as disingenuous or irrelevant in comparison to the increase in risk of a range of cancers.
Breast cancer poses a particular challenge for the industries’ marketing efforts, being a leading cause of cancer death in women with an identified causal factor that is amenable to change.
 It has also had a high profile with the public as a tragic, mutilating, blameless condition, a reputation which is due largely to large-scale emotive fund-raising campaigns.

Recent active discussion of cancer risk, along with increasing attention to fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, provides more support for population-level control of alcohol consumption, weakening the industry arguments that making better individual choices is the answer.
However, the large multi-national alcohol corporations have virtually unlimited resources available to tackle commercials threats, and cannot be expected to step back from this challenge.

Some individualized approaches to prevention and treatment may depend upon more detailed understanding of the mechanisms by which alcohol causes cancer, but population approaches to reducing incidence and mortality from cancer caused by alcohol are clear enough and are consistent with strategies to reduce other forms of alcohol-related harm [43].

From a public health perspective, alcohol is estimated to have caused approximately half a million deaths from cancer in 2012; 5.8% of cancer deaths world-wide [21].
The highest risks are associated with the heaviest drinking, but a considerable burden is experienced by drinkers with low to moderate consumption, due to the distribution of drinking in the population [44].
Thus, population-wide reduction in alcohol consumption will have an important effect on the incidence of these conditions, while targeting the heaviest drinkers alone has limited potential.
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.13477/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.13477/full
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