Topic: All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million (Read 750 times)

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

If these figures are accurate, the Canadian government can claim that they have managed to cut down the number of infections. Since the Canadian population is around 1/9th of that of the United States, I would have expected around 2.5 million infections. But looking closely, there is something that is not right. The US has reported 360,078 deaths from 21,113,528 infections, with a fatality rate of 1.7%. On the other hand, Canada has reported 15,865 deaths from 601,663 infections, with a fatality rate of 2.64%.

Why the fatality rate is so high in Canada? It is either because their medical facilities are incompetent, or because they are not testing enough and reporting all the infections.

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1342203233280913411
"The first doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine have arrived in Canada. These are part of the 168,000 doses we’ll be getting before the end of the month, and part of the 40 million doses we’re guaranteed from Moderna overall."

There is 38 million cdns and they are getting 40 million vaxs.

Now they can`t force you to get the vaccine, but they will force the grocery stores to not let you in unless you got your covid pass.

I rather have covid than get the vax.

the staff want it. but they are witnessing that they are offered appointments before the vulnerable people they care for are offered. so their mindset is that the vaccine should go to those that need it most first. and they will (hope) to have an oppertunity to rejoin the list later.
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https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1345407916409561090

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
More nursing homes are getting the Covid-19 vaccine, but a recent survey found nearly 72% of certified nursing assistants don’t want to be vaccinated. One Georgia company is offering staffers who take the shot a free breakfast at Waffle House. https://on.wsj.com/3pxsdyu

Ignatius J. Reilly
@YoureAllDunces
“We know you’re starving, and we just gave you basically nothing, so here’s a junk food breakfast (only one per starving family) as long as you take our intentionally rushed experimental injection that even our own medical personnel are refusing.” This is what they think of us.

https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1345407916409561090

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
More nursing homes are getting the Covid-19 vaccine, but a recent survey found nearly 72% of certified nursing assistants don’t want to be vaccinated. One Georgia company is offering staffers who take the shot a free breakfast at Waffle House. https://on.wsj.com/3pxsdyu

Ignatius J. Reilly
@YoureAllDunces
“We know you’re starving, and we just gave you basically nothing, so here’s a junk food breakfast (only one per starving family) as long as you take our intentionally rushed experimental injection that even our own medical personnel are refusing.” This is what they think of us.

Impressive level of ambiguity.  

We are really only a couple of relatively small steps away from it

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

Previous incomplete vaccination
If the course is interrupted or delayed, it should be resumed using the same vaccine but the first dose should not be repeated. There is no evidence on the interchangeability of the COVID-19 vaccines although studies are underway. Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

I would not rule that out.

^^^ That's why Bitcoin is going through the roof. Silicon Valley people realize what "cashless" means more than anybody else.

The stuff about anti vaxxers starving to death and the Canadian Government forcing Grocery Stores to not let anyone in the door without the vaccine...it's not real.

She has been charged on suspicion of a public order offense. While the footage shows the inside of the hospital to be virtually empty, UK health authorities have continually asserted that the NHS is at risk of being "overwhelmed" as a result of rising COVID-19 infections. Public data shows that hospitals are indeed emptier than at this time last year, with beds being at 89% occupancy compared to 95% occupancy in December 2019. Almost all of the emergency Nightingale hospitals that were built at a cost of £220 million to handle overflow COVID patients were never used and are now being dismantled.

This whole thing is driven by people who have money, and they have zero intent in becoming GMO's.  They are doing this thing to the useless eater classes as a means of controlling them so that they can maintain their position through the next economic shift.  So...

Ask yourself if you have the funds to afford a private jet.  If 'yes', then you can probably, if you play your cards/coins right, avoid the designer genetic material and still eat, fly, etc.  If 'no', then plan to assimilate into the borg or die.  They may choose to run some zoos here and there for their leisure and enjoyment (and potentially some harvest operations), but if you are on-line and reading this, you probably are not in one of these locations.


I have zero psychological need to be outraged and would like nothing better than to enjoy the 'old normal' life while keeping my family safe.

On the other hand, I do not possess the ability to turn a blind eye to outrages whether they happen against me or against my fellow man.  It's just the way I'm wired.  Sucks, but it is what it is.

No, this is just anti-vaxxers exaggerating reality so they can be outraged.

So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right.

I haven't paid for medical insurance since 2013.  I guess I'm lucky that I haven't required any medical services in that period.  I may not always have that luxury, but if/when I do need major medical care I assume that I will have funds available for whatever surgery I need after saving so much money on taxes and insurance for such a long period of time.  Given that I will be paying out of pocket, the same way that Canadians who need expedited care would in the US, there would be no corporate insurance profits or 'exceptions' involved.  Just me, paying for the best and receiving the best without having to pay insane taxes or insurance.  I guess I'm old fashioned in that regard.  I don't need a government entity to budget my heathcare for me.  I'm perfectly capable to do so on my own.  Granted not everyone may have this option, but I'm also one of those crazy people who believe that natural selection should be a part of any species' evolution. 

anyway.. out of curiosity
look at how much medical insurance you pay per month
look at how much income tax you pay.
then work out if all hospitals/doctors stayed the same but the bill went to the government and no longer your liability. how much income tax increase you think it will be
remember corporate insurances make profit. so think about the 'at cost' value you would pay/not pay
then think about the lack of 'exceptions' there would be and no having to remember which hospital to request to go to if unconscious to ensure your in coverage.

yes but the terms of the promissory note are clear
all credit agreements/loans/mortgages have clear terms and none of those terms are as you describe that mention people should get paid if they default on their agreement


.. anyway sidestepping back to the canadian/us health system differences..
strangely looking at the all death stats.. most americas die at home. i guess they were too afraid to go to the hospital.

.. anyway side stepping again back to the vaccine discussion in canada

if the vaccine was so dangerous. then we can easily see if the death rate per 100k populous that had vaccine vs deathrate per 100k populous of getting covid. and see which is better to get.. covid or vaccine

by the way. UK had 600k vaccinations in 3 weeks. and no one needed to be put onto ventilators. so far the vaccine is winning the odds

i just checked UK numbers. of those known to have covid- 600k cumulative was hit in first week of october
that same week of october a cumulative count of people needing hospital was 150k
so lets call it 25% needing extra care after getting covid
heck. lets be generous. lets account for the conspiracy exaggerated stat of 50% have it and dont know it.
thus lets call it 12.5% needing hospital care. just to be fair to idiots


lets see if the vaccine has way less hospitalisations.(i guarantee you it will)

you have no clue how the money creation occurs. the bank creates the money on the agreement that the guy pays the bank at a later date. if the guy does not pay then the guy is in debt as thats the agreement.
get away from your freeman cult of thinking there is a secret trust that the guy allows the bank access to in creating money. that nonsense was debunked decades ago when the freeman nonsense first started

I debunked you a long time ago on this. All of it is creations of new money. If there is a debt, it's the bank that owes it back to the so-called borrowers.

maybe instead of quoting some media site. you should quote the terms and conditions of your medical insurance policy.

yep the limitations and barred procedures list will make you think twice.
UK/canada doesnt have barred procedures
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between paying rent or medical co-pays
UK/canada doesnt make you have to choose between saving up for your kids college or having surgury
when you realise paying your monthly premium is actually a tax on your health. you soon learn your 'right to life' is in the hands of corporations

gotta love the long list of exceptions corporate healthcare have.

US has the highest amount of medical debt compared to any other country
UK/canada has no medical debt. no bill comes though their letter box

Lower income taxes. Less dependency on government. Access to faster and higher quality services.

Since I know you’ll dispute my third point, read it again and then read this article: https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/07/15/american-health-care-treats-canadians-who-cannot-wait/

can i just ask what 'benefits' do you think you get for having a corporate healthcare system. im actually interested in your opinion

I don't understand this opposition to vaccination.

Perhaps there is an argument that this one has been developed too quickly and has not been tested sufficiently... but as there is such high demand and nations are only getting small quantities at a time, it's generally the oldest people and frontline health workers who are getting the vaccine first anyway, so unless you're in one of these categories, there are plenty of guinea pigs ahead of you in the queue to ensure safety.

'Too quick and not tested sufficiently' is the only reasonable argument. Any argument against vaccination in general doesn't make sense. How can anyone look at smallpox, or polio, and want them back, and deny that vaccination is what eradicated them?

...though whether his death had anything to do with the inoculation hasn't yet been determined. [lol]

The canton has yet to release any additional details about the exact amount of time that passed between the inoculation and the man's death.

Lucerne was the site of the first vaccinations in Switzerland beginning last week, with a shot from Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech given primarily to elderly people. Switzerland has received 107K vaccine doses, so far, and expects to get 250K per month starting next year.

"We are aware of the case," a spokesperson said, before adding that the death had been referred to Swiss drugs regulator Swissmedic. Swissmedic didn't comment further.

Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine is the only vaccine approved, so far, in Switzerland. The EU has just started approving the jabs on an emergency-use basis, with the first injections starting earlier this week.

I rather have covid than get the vax.

Oh the joys of universal health care...  No thanks.  

The mass manufacturing of the vaccine is progressing at a very slow pace and none of the countries have reported more than one million vaccinations till now. Even Russia, which promised to vaccinate 2 million people by the end of December has missed that mark by a long distance. There are multiple risks here. First of all, the vaccine is not that easy to manufacture. And secondly, the storage and transportation is very difficult, as it needs ultra-deep freezing. And finally, many of the countries haven't yet came up with the list of priority individuals, who needs to be vaccinated first.

here is the real funny thing

tvbcof thinks there is no virus. so why is he suddenly worried about immunity from something he thinks doesnt exist.

the joke on him is that what he writes is not actually his independent mind thoughts. he is just rehashing stupid opinion stuff from conspiracy sites without taking the time to think about what he is typing.

he has totally debunked his earlier rhetoric by even suggesting that people can get a virus and can spread it even with a vaccine. because now he admits there is a virus.

you gotta love it when they debunk themselves.

come on tvbcof. how can you say the vaccine decreases the symptoms. while also thinking no one has ever had symptoms in the first place

I read somewhere online that around 5% of the population are completely against vaccinations and won't get the corona vaccine. This sounds very promising because it only takes 60-70% to achieve the goal of herd immunity. But 40 million vaccines seem a big low in my opinion. I thought it takes two shots of vaccine to actually get immunity. So this would mean only half of the population could actually get it.

I read somewhere online that around 5% of the population are completely against vaccinations and won't get the corona vaccine. This sounds very promising because it only takes 60-70% to achieve the goal of herd immunity. But 40 million vaccines seem a big low in my opinion. I thought it takes two shots of vaccine to actually get immunity. So this would mean only half of the population could actually get it.

It might be worse for business to have an outbreak traced back to their shop.

Trump was careful to use wording

Correct me if I wrong, but to get full immunity you have to be vaccined twice, second dose should be give 2 or 3 weeks after first one (can't remember exactly)...

It might be worse for business to have an outbreak traced back to their shop.

no offense but if you tried to sue an international company you would find the complexities of doing such. they would put up walls and delay tactics and then play the defence game of trying to get you to prove the unprovable.
government compensation schemes for vaccine are much more straight forward.

why is this done. well the main plot is that if vaccine companies had to get their own insurance of liability it would take alot more time to authorise such. it would add more cost onto the medication/treatment. and if you were to sue the company you would not actually be suing the company. instead you would be suing their insurer.

so government are acting as the insurer and the government is not interest in the 'profit game' the court system and policies actually favour the citizen more. and of course it costs the citizen nothing.

yes the legal system is never perfect but playing the odds of hassle/costs/stress the government being the insurer is better.

oh. and the vaccine companies did not 'scrub' proof of bells palsy.. they have been very transparent and the info is still there now..
(please try to do your own research and stop living in your own fantasy)
if you are not sure about something. research it. it only took 3 minutes to find this stuff out. maybe you should take that time to figure it out for yourself

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Also who in their rational mind would fight not to get a vaccination, that is a blatant rejection of science.
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Yeah I trust them. I trust them to do what is in their favor and not ours. And the worst part is that Big tech is involved , scrubbing and removing any evidence of the bells palsy victims and then using "debunking" as a means to control the goyims perception of the world.

the government is taking on the liability meaning the government compensates people for vaccine realted injury or death. this means you side step all the issues of suing international companies and you avoid any costs of setting up a case against he company.

its then in the background where the government then fine/sue the company.
basically it makes your life easy to get compensation by filing a claim through the government than it is to do it direct

as for your ignorance that the vaccines are untested. they actually have upto 9 months of trials of many dozens of thousands of participants.

maybe you should do your research

Who really runs these companies?

AstraZenecaPLC / Moderna / Pfizer...These 3 companies are releasing an untested vaccine and they are immune from the laws regarding if they kill people.

Can we hog tie the CEOs and all of the people wanting us to take vaccines badly and make them take it at gun point?

I think at this point , nothing is going to change at this point and the only way forward is to neutralize these bastards.

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1342203233280913411
"The first doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine have arrived in Canada. These are part of the 168,000 doses we’ll be getting before the end of the month, and part of the 40 million doses we’re guaranteed from Moderna overall."

There is 38 million cdns and they are getting 40 million vaxs.

Now they can`t force you to get the vaccine, but they will force the grocery stores to not let you in unless you got your covid pass.

I rather have covid than get the vax.

It might be worse for business to have an outbreak traced back to their shop.

I am in favor of mass-vaccination, but I don't agree with such coercive steps. And as far as I could understand, the government can't prohibit anyone from retail stores if they don't have a vaccination pass. It is up to the shopkeepers to put up such restrictions. I really doubt whether any of them would do that, since it can have a negative impact on their business.

This is insane how are they able to block you from buying groceries without a vaccine? So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right. I understand that they want you take it and are unable to force you to do so. But this sounds like extortion to me.

I am in favor of mass-vaccination, but I don't agree with such coercive steps. And as far as I could understand, the government can't prohibit anyone from retail stores if they don't have a vaccination pass. It is up to the shopkeepers to put up such restrictions. I really doubt whether any of them would do that, since it can have a negative impact on their business.

This is insane how are they able to block you from buying groceries without a vaccine? So if you decide against the vaccine you will just starve to death? This is not right. I understand that they want you take it and are unable to force you to do so. But this sounds like extortion to me.

So they're turning millions into guinea pigs for pharma companies and their untested vaccines.
Someone should read them the inserts and educate them because they are obviously too scared of the virus to do it themselves. In short, companies who produce these vaccines clearly say that these were tested on a very limited number of people and can produce a number of side effects. It's also unknown whether the vaccines actually work or not and how long the immunity lasts. The manufacturers are also not to be held liable for any health issues that may result from taking their product.

Doctors, scientists and other medical experts involved with research into the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) are mysteriously turning up dead all around the world in what appears to be a mass culling of people who know too much truth about the plandemic.

One of the latest deaths was that of Alexander “Sasha” Kagansky, a Russian scientist who had been working on developing a COVID-19 vaccine when he was brutally stabbed and thrown from the window of his 14th floor apartment in St. Petersburg.

Reports indicate that Kagansky died “under strange circumstances,” an understatement considering the nature and timing of his demise.

Kagansky had recently been awarded a grant by the Russian government to investigate new ways of diagnosing and treating brain tumors. He was also a vocal advocate for natural remedies like herbs and mushrooms that are known to help kill cancer cells.

Another who died this year under similar circumstances was Frank Plummer, a world-renowned Canadian scientist who had also been working on a COVID-19 vaccine when he was apparently taken out by dark entities.

Back in January, we reported on Plummer’s connections to a communist Chinese spy ring that appears to have been responsible for stealing coronavirus strains from a Canadian lab and taking them to Wuhan.

Professor Bing Liu from the University of Pittsburgh is another relevant scientist who was murdered this year, in this case right before he could go public with a new breakthrough concerning the nature of COVID-19.

“Bing was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie SARS-CoV-2 infection and the cellular basis of the following complications,” reads a statement from his colleagues within the Department of Computational and Systems Biology.

Then we have Gita Ramjee, an HIV scientist who supposedly died from COVID-19 while visiting London to deliver a lecture about HIV treatment and prevention. Upon returning to Durban, she reportedly felt unwell and went to the hospital, where she died not long thereafter.

A World Health Organization (WHO) driver named Pyae Sone Win Maung also died back in May while transporting coronavirus samples for the United Nations. He had been driving a well-marked U.N. vehicle at the time when shots were fired, killing him and injuring another passenger.

Vaccine whistleblower Brandy Vaughan, a former sales executive from Merck & Co. and founder of LearnTheRisk.org, was also found dead in her home earlier this month beside her nine-year-old son. Vaughan had been working hard to educate the public about vaccine safety risks.

Peter Daszak and Ron Fouchier need to be fully investigated

So they're turning millions into guinea pigs for pharma companies and their untested vaccines.
Someone should read them the inserts and educate them because they are obviously too scared of the virus to do it themselves. In short, companies who produce these vaccines clearly say that these were tested on a very limited number of people and can produce a number of side effects. It's also unknown whether the vaccines actually work or not and how long the immunity lasts. The manufacturers are also not to be held liable for any health issues that may result from taking their product.

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1342203233280913411
"The first doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine have arrived in Canada. These are part of the 168,000 doses we’ll be getting before the end of the month, and part of the 40 million doses we’re guaranteed from Moderna overall."

There is 38 million cdns and they are getting 40 million vaxs.

Now they can`t force you to get the vaccine, but they will force the grocery stores to not let you in unless you got your covid pass.

I rather have covid than get the vax.