Topic: All eyes On Trump As Kamal Harris Gives Up On Bitcoin Conference Attendance (Read 777 times)

Republic First Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate Bank and Signature Bank...these are just a few typical large banks and if you accept the truth and take the time to learn, you will see that many other banks have declared bankruptcy under the Biden administration.



We all know that America has a say in these wars and they can end the war any time they want. Both Israel and Ukraine are serving the United States and are completely dependent on them.
Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't do it either, let Trump be elected and we will see the difference immediately.


No matter who becomes the president of the United States, the cryptocurrency market will still grow because no one can stop its growth.
But if Trump is elected, we will definitely see the market explode further thanks to his pro-crypto policies. Also, if he gets elected, we will definitely see Gary Gensler step down and I believe all crypto investors want this to happen because everyone knows that he is a major barrier of the cryptocurrency industry. Gary himself admitted in an interview that if Trump is elected, he will resign.
I believe you have also seen what the SEC has done to the crypto industry over the years but you don't want to admit it because it is happening under Biden.

While Trump had a good opportunity to redefine himself, Harris needs to focus on a clear and positive representation, one that would gain her more votes. As there is an internal debate among Democrats on how cryptos should be treated, her taking a clear side might be divisive. Moreover, as Trump did that first, she'd be ridiculed for copycating his approach, not being her own person. So it's a tricky situation in which it might be better for her to remain vague. But perhaps it would be good to push her running mate Walz to say something welcoming about cryptos.

She isn't, and neither is Trump--because there is virtually zero votes for such a thing. Very few Americans even care about their Bitcoin holdings to the point that they would think about it politically at all, and even the ones who do aren't going to trade away their rights to a their own body (Trump's promised abortion laws) just to make their Bitcoin go up a little.

What both are going after is crypto donations from billionaire Bitcoin whales.



That inflation started under Trump and it was caused by the worldwide pandemic disrupting the world economy.

In response to this, Biden and the Democrats passed the Inflation Reduction Act, and now US inflation is at 2.9% and falling, which is basically normal levels.


What are you talking about? What banks failed?


Yes, "if the Fed has policies that are not suitable for the current economy" then our economy will fall into recession. That is true now, before, and will be in the future no matter who is president.

There is no evidence we are headed toward a recession, and this week we have seen the very opposite indicators.


Biden did not attack Israel, Hamas did.

Biden did not attack Ukraine, Putin did.

No US president could have prevented these things.


Under Biden, ETFs for Bitcoin and Ether were approved, and Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.

The crypto market here in the US is bigger than ever, we have the largest share of hashrate here, and there are more companies in the crypto space than ever.

If you want abortion to be illegal in the USA, then vote for Trump.

If you want to deport 5% of the US workforce from the USA and disrupt the American economy, then vote for Trump.

If you want to enact massive tariffs on our trade with China, severely disrupting the US economy, then vote for Trump.

If you want to compete with the President of the United States and the US government in your crypto business, then... vote for Trump.

If you want the same environment where things have thrived in for the last four years, vote for Harris.

I mean it's clear that Kamala Harris is not after the "may change their vote based on crypto stance" folk, because it's too niche and not really worth the time. Don't get me wrong, it's VERY important to us, but we are not that big and most of us are not even American like me. So that means, if she wants more votes, she needs to work on swing states city by city, to get the votes needed there and make a hype there.

Otherwise, we are only talking about a person who goes to some place where she can MAYBE get 100 votes, that's it, that's maximum she can hope, why work for that when she can instead spend her time trying to get thousands? That is why this was a good election move by her, terrible for us but definitely a win for her without a doubt.

I can't confirm that Trump is really interested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, maybe he is just trying to convince us to vote for him.

But it's unfair for us to look back at the past and judge their present. Let's not forget Larry Fink was also a person who despised bitcoin in the past and he also admitted that he missed the opportunity to buy cheap bitcoin but now his organization is a fund that buys large amounts of bitcoin every day. Not only him, there were also many people who hated bitcoin before but they changed their opinion about it, why don't we attack them, why do we only target trump? Meanwhile we have no evidence that he is lying or that he has actually changed his mind.

Also, do you think the current administration is as good to us as we expected?

He can do it because he actually recognized good things of Bitcoin and blockchain technology or he did such supportive words because of the coming election only. We will know if he gets elected as a next President of the United States and what he will actually do in next four years.

Speculating that he will do this, will not do that is all pure speculation that can be correct or inaccurate.

They over printed money since Covid-19 and years later, the national economy and citizens are suffering consequences of massive QEs in previous years. The National Debt of the USA skyrockets too.

World Debt Clock by nations and the national debt clock of the USA.

That's true and SEC. only changed their stance and activities recent months because of pressure from Trump, Republic Party and the coming President Election.

Of course. The US has given too much power to China. And it's probably too late to do something about it. Taking action now would risk a global economic collapse. Especially when China is the second-largest economy in the world. Maybe moving production from China to the US will do the trick? Made in USA sounds a lot better than Made in China, imo. Japan is also an option (remember Made in Japan?).

As for crypto regulation, I think Trump will have a softer stance towards the industry than Harris. Trump's first term as president left crypto virtually "untouched", compared to the current administration. Ms. Harris is part of such administration, making her no different than her predecessor (Joe Biden). We'll see what happens. No matter who wins the race, nothing will be able to disrupt the crypto industry. That's assuming everything stays decentralized and censorship-resistant. 2025 here we come!

Trying to get POTUS on the Bitcoin side is seemingly turning to a cat and mouse chase.

And one thing we forgetting is Trump was against Bitcoin when he was in the driving seat, and suddenly he U-turns and wants to be the darling of BTC when we all know he is doing it for the numbers and financial support that comes with it  Otherwise if we are saying Kamal Harris and camp are anti-bitcoin then it's good they aren't playing to the gallery to become some hypocrites... atleast they have a strand of integrity probably a reason why this camp didn't show up!

Under Biden, inflation in the US rose to a 40-year high, many banks failed, and we saw the collapse of major banks in 2022 as the crisis peaked. Although things are gradually stabilizing with inflation falling to 2.9%, that does not mean they are safe because their economies are at risk of entering a recession if the Fed has policies that are not suitable for the current economy. 
It can be said that under Biden, they have created countless problems from economic to military when they failed to prevent the wars between Russia and Ukraine, Israel and Gaza...causing a series of instability in the world.

As for cryptocurrencies, they pulled strings for the SEC to suppress the cryptocurrency market and create a series of lawsuits that affected the development of the market...


https://www.crfb.org/blogs/2022-inflation-hit-41-year-record

China is the main problem. Under Biden/Kamala the US has been way too soft on the Chinese manufacturers. Trump should bring trade-wars back and that's probably the only way to stop the Chinese from invading the Europe&USA with their cheap shitty electric vehicles. They are manufacturing cars for the price of a high end PC. Their production costs are nearly free. No country can compete with a beast like that on equal terms.

If Trump doesn't stop it, everybody that's not a China-man will end up being a slave for China.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden.

The US economy is doing great, with low unemployment, low inflation, and with the stock market doing extremely well.

And no, "the crypto industry" is not a couple of billionaire Bitcoin whales who want abortion to be illegal in the USA so they support Trump with millions of dollars and use crypto as an excuse.

Real crypto businesses want things to continue as they are, not introduce a new president who wants to make radical changes to the US economy and... is getting into their business himself as Trump is.

No real business wants their main rival business to be the one own by the US president, which is what will happen to crypto businesses if Trump is elected.

Yes. It would be great if the US has its own Bitcoin reserves. Just like it had its own Gold reserves in the past. But first things first. Trump and his team would need to focus on cutting down domestic and foreign spending to put a halt on the rising national debt. Then we can talk about "reds and roses" with Bitcoin. Without a solution to the US' inherent economic problems, adopting BTC at its fullest won't make any difference.

The crypto industry already sided with Trump, anyways. Fingers crossed he wins the presidential race. Otherwise, crypto will move a step backwards under Kamala Harris' leadership. If the economy was in shambles during Biden's presidency, what makes you think Harris will be any better? Americans must choose wisely for the good of their country (and the rest of the world). The future is unpredictable, so lets hope for the best.

Did we have a president for the past 4 years?  All I remember was some waxy old puppet with lord-knows-whose-hand up his back end, controlling things.

And not for nothing, but I was stridently anti-Trump well into his term and prior to his election I thought he'd end up starting WWIII....but all we really got was a lot of verbal bashing of the media and his obsession with building that friggin' wall on the Mexican border.  What the hell ever happened to that, anyway?

But hey, bitcoin is as resilient as the most evolved cockroach (an analogy I hate to use, but it's the first thing that comes to mind).  Don't matter who wins this race, miners will keep mining and the rest of us will go about doing our bitcoin business as usual.  Hopefully.

I agree, Trump needs bitcoin more because he is taking advantage of its popularity to attract voters for himself, while bitcoin has existed since 2009 and has passed through many presidents. Although the Biden administration has had anti-bitcoin policies during his years in office, we can see that bitcoin is not affected too much. So whoever becomes president won't be able to stop bitcoin's potential, but by betting on Trump, we have a chance to move things forward faster and stronger.

I don't believe Trump can make bitcoin a US national reserve, but if that happens, it would obviously be a huge step forward for bitcoin, which is why I support him instead Kamal Harris or Biden.

This is not surprising. Especially when Harris is part of the anti-crypto Biden administration. Crypto supporters will view Trump favorably over Harris in this year's elections. He has shown huge interest in the emerging industry. A Trump win would be bullish for the crypto market. At least, that's what I think. The upcoming 2024 Bitcoin Conference is going to be huge. I wonder if other presidential candidates will attend future conferences? I can only imagine.

Not attending will still damage her, it is just that this is the lesser out of two evils, as you can make sure the Trump campaign will make sure to let people know that Trump is now in favor of bitcoin, or at least that is what he claims right now, and I have no doubts that this can have an effect on the independent voters, since more than anything what people care about right now is their own finances, and many of them have obtained great profits thanks to bitcoin and a strict regulation will damage their interests.

Be really interesting to see what he says tomorrow. I believe Saylor & Cathy Wood speak at the conference foday but everybody wants to see what the potential new President says. Bitcoin price has clawed back to $67000 so starting from a good point. Can we get a Trump pump tomorrow I wonder.

Exactly, it will damage her and here political affiliations if suddenly he speaks on that conference. They are anti-bitcoin and imposing like taxes for the miners and even try to put pressure on SEC in the beginning to not approved a Bitcoin ETF.

In any case, the Bitcoin conference has started it's effect on the price, as we have a pump already from $65,000->$67,000.

Trump will be speaking on the last day, so we should be expecting that perhaps the price could go to $70,000, I reckon.

Makes sense. Kamala is anti-bitcoin and Trump is pro-bitcoin.

Why would Kama attend to the conference? People wouldn’t listen to her anti-bitcoin shilling. Lots of “Boooo”s and “Hooo”s would happen. In the end she would have to leave the conference with her tail between her legs.

It wouldn’t be a good look for her campaign.

It was obvious she was not going to accept a last minute invitation. Vice Presidents don’t have much power to affect policy, so it’s a huge stretch to say she “actively” imprisoned developers. I’m not saying she’d be better than Biden but there are plenty of things to criticize her for during her time as California attorney general and US senator that it is not necessary to resort to political spin and propaganda.

Aside from being an Ordinal shitcoin scammer David Bailey is also a Trump bootlicker and will say whatever to promote Trump. If Trump wins, it will likely result in favorable business deals for his companies. Bailey’s concern isn’t with who Kamala might have imprisoned. If he could benefit financially from her presidency he would be the first to endorse her and any inconvenient details would be overlooked, just like how the Trump administration's persecution of Julian Assange has quickly been forgotten.

Not sure why Trump would go speak at a Bitcoin conference, which are mostly attended by libertarians, when he was loudly booed and jeered at the last libertarian conference he want to.

It would not be political suicide, but you would have to say it would be a very poor campaigning choice from Trump's staff. The news would be all over it.

I would rather call this conference "YUGE, the greatest bitcoin conference in the world. There is no conference that is bigger or better than the Bitcoin Conference here in beautiful Nashville" Hopefully you read that in Donald Trump's accent lmao.  We will see what he has to say at 2pm Central Time US coming live from Nashville, TN!

Yeah I do agree uneng...

However what we should not forget is that at least sows another seed of "safety" or perhaps "acceptance". I'm all in for Bitcoin going a bit more mainstream, it will be safer for all of us.

And then lightning please, the legal uncertainty pertaining lightning for private operators in the US has to stop!

Lol, to speak anything at a conference anyone can do, especially a candidate during the elections. So much adulation on Trump by crypto community these days, as if he had given any contribution to Bitcoin adoption and acceptance during his previous government. Not only he didn't give a shit about Bitcoin, as he also spoke against Bitcoin. But these sockpuppets just ignore the facts. The search for the truth doesn't mean anything these days. This circus is just ridiculous.

So called social influencers leading a mass of sheep directly to the slaughterhouse voluntarily. These fools are trying to create a kind of Holy Trinity consisting of Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Bitcoin.

With politicians or not, bitcoin market continues to exist. However, with the endorsement of the next US President would create further demand and so the increase of price is imminent. Trump may be pro-crypto but once he is elected, do you really think it would be easy to pass a crypto-related bill?

At the end of the day, whether the leader is pro-crypto or not, you are the one shaping your life and so it is still on you how you will deal with your everyday life to improve your economic status.

Dude! Give it a rest! This is a BITCOIN topic!

The fact that he wasn't a Pro-Bitcoin supporter duruing his tenure doesn't mean he isn't now. Bitcoin have come a long way in the last 4 years, withstanding plenty of attacks even though the policies have been terrible to say the least. I know politicians usually lie during their campaigns and flip upon winning but it's worth noting that among all recent US president, Trump has been the most informed about crypto. I think the guy already has about 3 NFT collections so far.

When it comes to bitcoin adoption, some will by theirself willingly succumb to the decentralized network with bitcoin because its going to get to a stage whereby they can't do without the need of the influence from the bitcoin community, if what makes someone like trump to back off the anti-bitcoin attack on bitcoin and support for it use, then any other person can change and anything is willing or possible to happen in regards to change over anyone's take on bitcoin.

I agree. This looks like a money grab by the organizers. They want to kiss everyone's asses so much only to get their names on the list. Since inviting Trump paid off, why not invite Kamala, right? While we're at it, let's invite Brad Sherman and Elizabeth Warren. There's freedom of speech. If people like that want to attend and speak their mind they should be allowed to do so, but I wouldn't invite them.

I like politics, but I feel like we could use less politics in bitcoin.

There was nothing that she was going to say that'll convince us to support her as she didn't show any interest in Bitcoin from the beginning. It was always Donald Trump that has been saying good things about Bitcoin and I can't wait to hear him speak at the conference. I don't have the chance to attend but I'll be watching on the internet and I am hoping that everything he says be something worth believing in and gains alot of supporters for him Trump isn't going to throw saw this opportunity of him becoming a US president again. They didn't allow him to finish his last tenor and he probably will have some unfinished business that he will have to handle.

The way I see it now, it is Trump who needs Bitcoin more. It fits into the attempt to sell himself as a progressive candidate. Bitcoin will be fine for 4 years whoever is the president during that period.

She should have not been invited at all, except it was an attempt to hurt her campaign by asking her some tough, difficult to get out of questions.

- Jay -

There are many versions of the story about her invitation and later decline. But if she had accepted the invitation at first, it might indicate that she might not be as strict as Joe Biden. I believe she was advised not to attend because sharing the same podium with Donald Trump can harm her reputation the way it happened to Joe Biden. She knows little about Bitcoin, so she might end up speaking ignorantly which will not be too good.

It could also be that she doesn't want to mend fences with the crypto community because she is not a supporter of the technology. If this was the case, then the crypto industry should be prepared for harsher policies if she eventually wins. It will be nice to hear what Trump wants to say in the conference.

Never in good taste to try and curry favour with someone, and then when it fails, turn on them. Come on, we're better than this, aren't we? If she were imprisoning developers, why would you invite her in the first place?

Surely we're supposed to be better than this (I know we're not, but heh).

For now, we can all see that she has no interest in supporting Bitcoin and we are not surprised about that. We are going to keep supporting the candidates that want to see cryptocurrency surge high and have lots of adoption. There had been speculations that she did not believe in Bitcoin and she has admitted that Bitcoin is for criminals which I think is quite wrong and that would not give us the interest to support her ambition. Whether she likes it or not, we can't be seeing other countries supporting the growth of Bitcoin while the United States is at far length. We'll going to see how this election is going to work out for her is she still insists to give a thumb for Bitcoin adoption.

If she speaks at the conference then she has to be in favor of BTC and otherwise, there is no reason for her to be there. Avoiding this event is better for her campaign than speaking at this conference. It's obviously for people who like BTC. It's not believable in any way if Kamala starts to become a Bitcoiner too.

A big percentage of US voters are crypto users so there's that which is like Trump securing his win. The social media people are just streaming Trump.

Kamala Harris just want to avoid unnecessary damage for her support before the election. She will choose events where she can show her strength, not weakness. In Bitcoin Conference, Kamala actually does not have good opportunity to deliver convincing speech and she will like fail against Donald Trump.

Smelling this risk is enough for Kamala to stay away from Bitcoin Conference this year because should never join it and say things oppositely to what she did previously months before taking over the nominee position from Joe Biden.

It's another reason Kamala should not join the conference, at least don't join it will help her to avoid additional damage on her election program for very last months before the election. She accept to give up this conference and only can hope that Trump won't successfully convince many participants there, but it's less likely Trump will fail with his speech ability.

While Trump is happy to take money from suckers who will donate to his campaign in hopes of special favors after he's elected, the "Bitcoin vote" doesn't exist in any significant quantity in this election.

This year's election in the USA is going to be about abortion and whether it should remain legal like it has been or whether it should be criminalized nationwide.

Republicans think abortion is "baby murder", and would do anything to stop it, including voting for somebody who would ban Bitcoin that's what it took.

Democrats see the abortion criminalization Republicans want as a fundamental attack on their bodily autonomy, and more practically speaking, the end of safe sex in the United States because there's no recourse if one's birth control fails--so every act of sex in the country Republicans want must necessarily consider the possibility of there being a baby. And most people aren't in the position to have (another) baby. So hence Republicans are basically trying to... outlaw sex.

So it's "baby murder" versus the end of sex. Compared to those stakes, Bitcoin isn't even remotely on any voter's radar.

Not only our forum, topics about Trump and bitcoin are flooding social networks, especially X, the social network where the majority of users are cryptocurrency investors.

Indeed, we have no guarantee that Trump will push the network forward if he is elected, but as you also acknowledge, the Biden administration is anti-bitcoin and Kamala Harris may maintain that position. The topic of Trump may become boring but clearly supporting him can create new opportunities for us beyond what the current administration is creating.

This is a big conference, the attendees are mostly strong bitcoin supporters, so let's wait and see what Trump will say and how people will react to it.

I am honestly bored of the Trump and Bitcoin talk, but I can also admit that the Biden administration with Kamala Harris as vice has been anti-bitcoin for the most part of it. There has been to many policies designed to frustrate bitcoin mining, privacy and decentralization. It would have been an ironic surprise for her to speak at a bitcoin conference.

The 4 years of Trump was better than the last 4 years but was also not exactly pro-bitcoin. Leaving nothing to suggest that he will push the network forward if he wins.

- Jay -

Dennis Porter

Trump seems to be the one most Bitcoiners support.