Almost all mining app on phone are valueless

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Quote from: JayDDee on November 09, 2023, 11:48:24 AM

Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2023, 11:33:33 AM

It all depends on the project’s requirements for phones. For 35-50 dollars you can buy many used phones with a 4-6 core processor and 32-64 GB of built-in memory from the inexpensive Chinese brand Xiaomi or others. You can order batteries from Aliexpress today. Older Hiomi models can be disassembled and the battery replaced at home, unlike new Samsung and Apple.

HUH? What project? It's making use of old unused equipment that would otherwise be discarded. There's no buying involved.
The batteries are removed to eliminate fire risk from overheating caused by mining. You should already know all that.

I have no experience in mining on a mobile phone

I saw on YouTube a mining farm made from phone phones and the batteries were in the phone, and the phone charger was also not made to constantly power the phone from the outlet.
And it’s very good that there are no such profitable projects now.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 09, 2023, 11:33:33 AM

It all depends on the project’s requirements for phones. For 35-50 dollars you can buy many used phones with a 4-6 core processor and 32-64 GB of built-in memory from the inexpensive Chinese brand Xiaomi or others. You can order batteries from Aliexpress today. Older Hiomi models can be disassembled and the battery replaced at home, unlike new Samsung and Apple.

HUH? What project? It's making use of old unused equipment that would otherwise be discarded. There's no buying involved.
The batteries are removed to eliminate fire risk from overheating caused by mining. You should already know all that.

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Quote from: JayDDee on November 08, 2023, 02:31:43 PM

Quote from: FP91G on November 08, 2023, 01:02:27 PM

Well, now you can buy a lot of inexpensive phones on the secondary market to use them to get rewards,

It's the only practical use for phone mining. Only if they'e beyond their useful life as a phone and only with the battery removed.

The scaling issue is the worst for phones so you need them in the hundreds to generate a significant hash rate.

It all depends on the project’s requirements for phones. For 35-50 dollars you can buy many used phones with a 4-6 core processor and 32-64 GB of built-in memory from the inexpensive Chinese brand Xiaomi or others. You can order batteries from Aliexpress today. Older Hiomi models can be disassembled and the battery replaced at home, unlike new Samsung and Apple.

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Quote from: FP91G on November 08, 2023, 01:02:27 PM

Well, now you can buy a lot of inexpensive phones on the secondary market to use them to get rewards,

It's the only practical use for phone mining. Only if they'e beyond their useful life as a phone and only with the battery removed.

The scaling issue is the worst for phones so you need them in the hundreds to generate a significant hash rate.

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Quote from: Vispilio on November 06, 2023, 02:27:59 AM

Agreed for the most part they are useless and just a gimmick to obtain private user information and hijack their phone bandwidth,

the most popular example of this year was probably Minima, which had huge hype and a widespread referral system, obtaining hundreds of thousands new accounts to serve as nodes, still worthless to this day, and the rewards / airdrop program turned out to be complete bogus,

users who would like to risk this for minimal gain should also consider it cannot be healthy to keep your phone occupied 24 / 7 with this activity, so at least try to do it with a phone you are not keeping close to you...

Well, now you can buy a lot of inexpensive phones on the secondary market to use them to get rewards, but greedy people use their personal phones for this.
But another thing is that there are no profitable coins for mining or the promises of the development team may not be fulfilled.

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Agreed for the most part they are useless and just a gimmick to obtain private user information and hijack their phone bandwidth,

the most popular example of this year was probably Minima, which had huge hype and a widespread referral system, obtaining hundreds of thousands new accounts to serve as nodes, still worthless to this day, and the rewards / airdrop program turned out to be complete bogus,

users who would like to risk this for minimal gain should also consider it cannot be healthy to keep your phone occupied 24 / 7 with this activity, so at least try to do it with a phone you are not keeping close to you...

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Mobile mining never really took off because there is no guarantee that the mining would only be possible on the mobile device.

An algo wouldn’t be able to limit the mining to say Apple Ax chips. So anyone can come out and just build their own software and be able to mine with a computer CPU and basically have an unfair advance. Hence why there are no mobile mining coins out there because it just wouldn’t have any point really.

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Quote from: RozoTheMiner on November 05, 2023, 08:49:36 PM

This is not true, you've been able to mobile mine on Verus for 3 years now. cell phones use a different type of processor called ARM chips and they can generally do the same thing as x86 chips but a lot more efficient. For an example mining Verus with a CPU you will use 150w where you can produce the same amount of hash with 10 cell phones at about 50w.

Yes it is, and by the way I know a little bit about CPUs, check my sig. Nothing in the list was real mining. Verus can be mined with any CPU just like I said.
You can mine with xmrig AArch64, on a MAC or an iphone (also x86_64), and recently with cpuminer-opt, still a work in progress. That is real mining.

The point I was making, and went way over your head, is that a CPU Is a CPU whether it's in a phone, tablet, laptop, workstation, server or game system.
If the software exists to mine it can mine on any of them.

Phone only mining is a scam, period!

Edit: How much have you made mining Verus?

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Quote from: JayDDee on November 03, 2023, 10:25:15 PM

Quote from: Samlucky O on November 03, 2023, 09:37:17 PM

In recent times many mining app has flooded play store. People has been mining but non of them attained mainnet. Even the one that went live on mainnet were very cheap after several years of mining. Example of mobile mining app that has been in existence for long and still no value
Pi network
Bee network
Bitcoin legend
Alpha network
Star network
Hbcu
Tavacchiacoin
Bondex
Ant network
Coinx
And many others. I have many of this coin mined but all to no avail. all this while the only two phone mined coin I know that has come to open mainnet and found in exchanges are:
Satoshi/ CoreDao
Remitano.
What is your experience on mobile crypto mining?

They aren't mining at all. There's no such thing as a mobile mining app. Any software that can really mine on a phone is just a CPU miner and can mine 20 times faster on a PC.

This is not true, you've been able to mobile mine on Verus for 3 years now. cell phones use a different type of processor called ARM chips and they can generally do the same thing as x86 chips but a lot more efficient. For an example mining Verus with a CPU you will use 150w where you can produce the same amount of hash with 10 cell phones at about 50w.

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Not all of them, I've been mining Verus on cell phones for years!

https://youtu.be/JYNFSpckEIA?si=aiajWTnfmbG2PsUL

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It’s pretty obvious that these types of apps are targeted towards kids or gullible people who think they can easily get rich letting their phone run some software. If it were that easy, everyone would do it. They don’t because it’s an obvious scam. I wouldn’t recommend even allowing this software to touch your personal cellular device.

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If you like mining, then it’s better to take up a classic miner and buy equipment.
Any programs that you download onto your phone can then be dangerous for your cryptocurrency wallets on your phone or banking applications. Don't learn telephone mining using your main phone at least.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on November 03, 2023, 09:37:17 PM

In recent times many mining app has flooded play store. People has been mining but non of them attained mainnet. Even the one that went live on mainnet were very cheap after several years of mining. Example of mobile mining app that has been in existence for long and still no value
Pi network
Bee network
Bitcoin legend
Alpha network
Star network
Hbcu
Tavacchiacoin
Bondex
Ant network
Coinx
And many others. I have many of this coin mined but all to no avail. all this while the only two phone mined coin I know that has come to open mainnet and found in exchanges are:
Satoshi/ CoreDao
Remitano.
What is your experience on mobile crypto mining?

They aren't mining at all. There's no such thing as a mobile mining app. Any software that can really mine on a phone is just a CPU miner and can mine 20 times faster on a PC.

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In recent times many mining app has flooded play store. People has been mining but non of them attained mainnet. Even the one that went live on mainnet were very cheap after several years of mining. Example of mobile mining app that has been in existence for long and still no value
Pi network
Bee network
Bitcoin legend
Alpha network
Star network
Hbcu
Tavacchiacoin
Bondex
Ant network
Coinx
And many others. I have many of this coin mined but all to no avail. all this while the only two phone mined coin I know that has come to open mainnet and found in exchanges are:
Satoshi/ CoreDao
Remitano.
What is your experience on mobile crypto mining?

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