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July 30, 2017, 07:05:16 AM
#17
I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.

I don't believe Bittrex is licensed as an MSB (which also requires being registered/licensed in each state within the USA where you operate). Some people assume that since they do not have fiat deposit/withdrawals, that they are not considered an MSB and don't need to be licensed. Time will tell if that assumption will hold....

Is there any info on whether they have seized coins? I'd love to know whether they can legally seize the assets of foreign users because I'm not sure what grounds they would have as this is hardly a darknet site.

They can do whatever they want. On Black Friday, they seized Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker (domains and bank accounts) and forced compliance. In that situation, users were lucky that Pokerstars immediately swooped in to repay everyone, pay all fines levied by the US government and quickly prohibit US customers. Everyone was repaid.

Given the way the indictment against BTC-e was written, it may as well have been a darknet site. They called both the exchange and its customers criminals, and associated the exchange almost purely with black hat, darknet and general money laundering activity. As such, I don't have much faith that they are interested in paying out anyone (if they were able to seize anything at all).

No idea if anything significant was seized. Banks in Mongolia... Okpay in Czech Republic... BTC and ETH wallets were moved today but no idea who moved them (BTC-e or government). But the feds love to claim ownership of "criminal" funds and it sure is strange that they didn't mention anything in the press release.
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July 30, 2017, 05:41:38 AM
#16
I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.

Just look for ones that require verification and have explanations about KYC and AML laws. I'll do a bit of research later because I certainly don't want to use one that might end up getting shut down.

I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.

You lost the amount? You mean that you had fiat cash in the exchange and you could not withdraw it before the site was closed down? I don't know if you need to worry about it. The official BTC-e twitter handle claimed yesterday that they will be back within the next 10 days. I don't know it is going to happen or not, but the chances are that your fiat/coins are going to be safe.

I had some in coins and some in cash. I hope it will come back but it seems unlikely now that it has been seized by the US authorities. Maybe they will sort a way to give back the funds to legitimate users hopefully.

Is there any info on whether they have seized coins? I'd love to know whether they can legally seize the assets of foreign users because I'm not sure what grounds they would have as this is hardly a darknet site.

I'm also looking for the next best thing.  I don't mind verifying my ID but am looking for an exchange that you can buy/trade LTC,  ETH and XRP with BTC.
There is bitfinex. Their liquidity (and fees) are probably better than btc-e was anyway.  

I'll check it out along with some of the others people mentioned later.  
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July 29, 2017, 06:18:19 PM
#15
I'm also looking for the next best thing.  I don't mind verifying my ID but am looking for an exchange that you can buy/trade LTC,  ETH and XRP with BTC.
There is bitfinex. Their liquidity (and fees) are probably better than btc-e was anyway. 

I was optimism but It's over. After domain Seizing, It seems there isn't any hope for returning back even in 10 days away.

Has it actually been seized? It just doesn't load for me. They normally put a notice up or announce it has been taken. Doubt they would have left it this long if they had.
It looks like it. It is hard to say with certainty exactly what happened, however it looks like there might be some issue with the SSL certificate, but there is a seizure notice up if you know how to view the website despite the SSL issue.



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newbie
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July 29, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
#14
... no limits for deposit or withdrawals without veryfing and so on?

you've got to be kidding me.  these are the exact reasons that they just got shut down an all of their assets seized.  you just looking to get burned again?
legendary
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July 29, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
#13
There are few alternatives to btc-e if you are only looking for perfectmoney and okpay withdrawals.

Trading platform :
livecoin.net
yobit.net

note: you can also create respective voucher code in both of this platforms like btc-e

Exchanges :

Changer.com
legendary
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July 29, 2017, 11:03:06 AM
#12
People should understand one thing loud and clear, as long as you make use of an exchange that isn't willing register its activities properly, you are at risk of losing everything.

Governments go nuts on unregistered exchanges and services because they are illegal. I made the mistake once, but I won't be a victim another time ~ loss for me is relatively small with just around $300 in fiat.
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July 29, 2017, 09:20:52 AM
#11
I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.

You lost the amount? You mean that you had fiat cash in the exchange and you could not withdraw it before the site was closed down? I don't know if you need to worry about it. The official BTC-e twitter handle claimed yesterday that they will be back within the next 10 days. I don't know it is going to happen or not, but the chances are that your fiat/coins are going to be safe.

I had some in coins and some in cash. I hope it will come back but it seems unlikely now that it has been seized by the US authorities. Maybe they will sort a way to give back the funds to legitimate users hopefully.
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July 29, 2017, 07:34:49 AM
#10
I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.

You lost the amount? You mean that you had fiat cash in the exchange and you could not withdraw it before the site was closed down? I don't know if you need to worry about it. The official BTC-e twitter handle claimed yesterday that they will be back within the next 10 days. I don't know it is going to happen or not, but the chances are that your fiat/coins are going to be safe.
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July 29, 2017, 06:29:30 AM
#9
I lost around $2000 on BTC-e. Now I'm using Bittrex. But I wanted to ask. Is there a list somewhere of the exchanges that are legal and have all the proper licenses in place? Is Bittrex one of those? I don't want to be caught in this type of shit again.
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July 29, 2017, 03:58:34 AM
#8
I'm also looking for the next best thing.  I don't mind verifying my ID but am looking for an exchange that you can buy/trade LTC,  ETH and XRP with BTC.

The options aren't so great. There's Bittrex. I left Polo months ago because of the massive amount of complaints about missing deposits/withdrawals. But that's partly what left me with so much on BTC-E when it went down....... Cry

Did you personally have missing deposits or just what you've heard from others? What would you say is the most reliable of them? Also,  I think I'd prefer it if it was fully regulated as well and European based to avoid issues.

Has it actually been seized? It just doesn't load for me. They normally put a notice up or announce it has been taken. Doubt they would have left it this long if they had.

Yes, it has been seized. It has not fully propagated, but by tomorrow or so, everyone should see the same thing. From the whois, the name server is now pointing at Shadowserver, which is a proxy for law enforcement.

Dang. My friend actually has about $30k in various coins and cash on there. I was gonna deposit a bitcoin or two as well to give trading a go but I'm glad I didn't now. Don't want this to happen on any other exchange though.
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July 29, 2017, 03:50:10 AM
#7
I'm also looking for the next best thing.  I don't mind verifying my ID but am looking for an exchange that you can buy/trade LTC,  ETH and XRP with BTC.

The options aren't so great. There's Bittrex. I left Polo months ago because of the massive amount of complaints about missing deposits/withdrawals. But that's partly what left me with so much on BTC-E when it went down....... Cry

Has it actually been seized? It just doesn't load for me. They normally put a notice up or announce it has been taken. Doubt they would have left it this long if they had.

Yes, it has been seized. It has not fully propagated, but by tomorrow or so, everyone should see the same thing. From the whois, the name server is now pointing at Shadowserver, which is a proxy for law enforcement.
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July 29, 2017, 03:46:46 AM
#6
I'm also looking for the next best thing.  I don't mind verifying my ID but am looking for an exchange that you can buy/trade LTC,  ETH and XRP with BTC.

I was optimism but It's over. After domain Seizing, It seems there isn't any hope for returning back even in 10 days away.

Has it actually been seized? It just doesn't load for me. They normally put a notice up or announce it has been taken. Doubt they would have left it this long if they had.
newbie
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July 29, 2017, 03:05:28 AM
#5
Try btc-e.ru

 Roll Eyes
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July 29, 2017, 02:15:31 AM
#4
I was optimism but It's over. After domain Seizing, It seems there isn't any hope for returning back even in 10 days away. so forget the btc-e's twitter and answer my question.
Is there any alternative like btc-e with code and perfectmoney & okpay for exchanges, easy for registration, no limits for deposit or withdrawals without veryfing and so on?

Agreed, I've lost any optimism for the situation. The feds are clear in their intents to pursue the owners and pillage from their customers, if they are able to. Doesn't make sense for the owners to attempt returning.

I'm not aware of any exchanges like BTC-E regarding verification and withdrawal limits. Polo and Bittrex have low withdrawal limits if you don't want to provide documents.

I really wonder if we are going to see action against Mayzus Financial, who I believe recently purchased OKpay. They have been backing BTC-E and moving their money for years.
sr. member
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July 29, 2017, 02:13:29 AM
#3
i think you never found bitcoin exchanger accepted fiat money and without verification ID
i think all bitcoin exchanger support fiat money must verified ID
hero member
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July 29, 2017, 12:09:11 AM
#2
I was optimism but It's over. After domain Seizing, It seems there isn't any hope for returning back even in 10 days away. so forget the btc-e's twitter and answer my question.
Is there any alternative like btc-e with code and perfectmoney & okpay for exchanges, easy for registration, no limits for deposit or withdrawals without veryfing and so on?
Theres still some options and knowing its not only btc-e is the platform here on the market. You can always see on the top ranking like polo and bittrex but i woud suggest to skip poloniex they do have lots of issues as of now. If you are really concern on different payment processors then i think bittrex would be enough. I didnt know the other payment options yet since my eye is only on bitcoin deposits or address,
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July 28, 2017, 08:24:06 PM
#1
I was optimism but It's over. After domain Seizing, It seems there isn't any hope for returning back even in 10 days away. so forget the btc-e's twitter and answer my question.
Is there any alternative like btc-e with code and perfectmoney & okpay for exchanges, easy for registration, no limits for deposit or withdrawals without veryfing and so on?
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