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legendary
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January 19, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
#56
ETH is now back working. Still no communication from the Coinomi devs.
If you have not bothered to get your ETH (and tokens out) now would be a good time to to it.

Might work for years, might not make it through the weekend.

-Dave
legendary
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December 30, 2023, 05:27:20 AM
#55
And.....it looks like Dash is dead now too
Considering that no one has been maintaining and updating the software for a long time, it's expected that more and more assets will start becoming useless.

For those who still use Dash, there are native software solutions both for desktop and mobile. Plus a non-custodial web wallet, according to the information on the official website. Ian Coleman's tool can be used in case there is a difference in the derivation path.
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 04:58:19 PM
#54
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.

Sad.

They could open their code, so someone could run it.

The best is to move all your coins somewhere else before it is too late and someone actually loses money with it

Don't think anyone is really going to loose money, just a lot of time and effort moving all their coins someplace else.

And yes Time=Money but it's not like the coins are going to vanish, just going to have to jump through hoops to get them.

I don't *think* they were the only wallet for any coins, but if they are / were it's probably not traded anyplace anyway.

-Dave
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 04:23:03 PM
#53
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.

Sad.

They could open their code, so someone could run it.

The best is to move all your coins somewhere else before it is too late and someone actually loses money with it
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 04:17:29 PM
#52
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 12:26:07 PM
#51
And.....it looks like Dash is dead now too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/18r6mhg/dash_not_showing/

Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.

-Dave
legendary
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December 25, 2023, 04:47:42 AM
#50
OK, good to know. I wanted to mention that I remember reading that MyEtherWallet allows you to select between different derivation paths during the recovery process. So, if you have a standard 24-word Coinomi seed, there shouldn't be any difficulties getting access to your ETH tokens. But you added even more details, confirming that Ledger and Coinomi use the same derivation paths for Ethereum. Unless the seed is 18 words long, there is no need to interact with Ian Coleman's tool for Ethereum account-recovery.
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 24, 2023, 07:58:26 AM
#49
What caused those problems? Are they using a non-standard derivation path for Ethereum?
Yes, non standard. Just like Ledger.

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Couldn't you import the original Coinomi seed phrase into an Ethereum wallet instead of looking for a specific private key that corresponds to your Ethereum address?  

You can't. It is in a different derivation path.

If you just import into metamask or myethereumwallet you will see another addresses,  no matter how many you generate


There is plenty documentation about it in coinomi website

Another one

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000016910
legendary
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December 24, 2023, 03:58:04 AM
#48
I recently had a problem to recover some ethereum (from a friend's wallet in coinomi)

You have to use Ian Coleman tool and select client coinomi.
What caused those problems? Are they using a non-standard derivation path for Ethereum? Couldn't you import the original Coinomi seed phrase into an Ethereum wallet instead of looking for a specific private key that corresponds to your Ethereum address? 
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 02:28:06 PM
#47
I still have the Coinomi Android wallet installed on one of my phones. I haven't opened it for a long time. I just now opened it to check whether it still works. My old bitcoin address on Coinomi was last synced when BTC was below $25k. It synced quickly, though. I didn't have an Ethereum address there, so I added one now. And I can confirm that it's not syncing at all. There is also a "no connection" notification when I open the Ethereum address in the app.

I recently had a problem to recover some ethereum (from a friend's wallet in coinomi)

You have to use Ian Coleman tool and select client coinomi.

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Coin specific notes:

For Ethereum-based coins (ETH, ETC, EXP, CLO, MUSIC, MIX, POA) specifically, select the "BIP32" option on the "Derivation Path" section and choose "Coinomi" as the client.


https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009717-what-is-the-recovery-tool-and-how-do-i-export-my-private-keys-
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
#46

He's dead Jim, you get his wallet I'll get his phaser.


I guess the question for a lot of people like me who just have some dust sitting in it is do you move everything or just each coin as they die.
For probably $40 in ETH I'll move it. But if / when LTC dies is it worth it for $5? I don't need a mobile LTC wallet it was just handy, my last TX was....Sept of 2022....

-Dave
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 10:11:43 AM
#45
I still have the Coinomi Android wallet installed on one of my phones. I haven't opened it for a long time. I just now opened it to check whether it still works. My old bitcoin address on Coinomi was last synced when BTC was below $25k. It synced quickly, though. I didn't have an Ethereum address there, so I added one now. And I can confirm that it's not syncing at all. There is also a "no connection" notification when I open the Ethereum address in the app.
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 08:46:52 AM
#44
And ETH along with it's associated tokens has not been working on Coinomi for a few days now.
So I guess I (and others) now have to really start moving away from here.
It's a shame, it was fairly good while it lasted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/18mrq6w/etherium_wallet_no_connection/

-Dave
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 10:36:51 AM
#43
Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.
For higher amounts, I still like keeping a BIP38 encrypted (cold) paper wallet in my (physical) wallet. I have a backup, nobody can decrypt it if I lose it, but if I ever need it, I'll be glad I have some.
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 11, 2023, 10:05:47 AM
#42
Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.

Yeah, that is my situation as well.

And if I do need to receive some different coins, it still works most of the time (except for XMR which I am using Moneruju for now)
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 09:16:56 AM
#41
True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

Actually, you can't.

You need to put your bip39 seed in coinomi bip 39, and then you will get the xmr seed

https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/

So you need to use this XMR seed. You can't import the bip39 seed into moneruju or cake wallet.

OK, that's on me for not being clear.

BUT I was going with the *assumption* that if you put your seed in X to get seed Y that someone can run it backwards and if you put seed Y into something you get seed X

I could be 100% wrong on that but I can't see it not working.

But either way we are still just talking about XMR, as other coins have stopped working you are still going to have to move them someplace else. So wither you export the keys one at a time and import them into another wallet OR you move your seed.

Would be better just to move what you can by just sending the coins that still work with a normal transaction and then getting out the other ones however you like and just assuming all seeds / addresses are compromised.

Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.

-Dave
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 01:02:55 PM
#40
True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

Actually, you can't.

You need to put your bip39 seed in coinomi bip 39, and then you will get the xmr seed

https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/

So you need to use this XMR seed. You can't import the bip39 seed into moneruju or cake wallet.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 10:37:10 AM
#39
And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.

True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

I was responding to the comment about there not being a lot of complaints about them.

There have been so many wallets that just faded away leaving people trying to figure out how to get their coins because they did something that was so non-standard as to make it just about impossible to get your coins.

Makes you wonder if we will ever know what happened to coinomi and why.

-Dave
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 09:14:34 AM
#38
And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 08:32:07 AM
#37
There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

The article hasn't been updated for a long time, and it's around the same time they started being inactive on their other social media accounts.

I think someone here asked about them not a very long time ago, and I tried to reach out to the support through Telegram IIRC, but there wasn't so much help. It does look abandoned but I'm surprised there are not many complaints about them online.

Probably because for the 'basic' popular coins it does work.
BTC - LTC - ETH - Doge - any many others are still working.
Others like XMR have been dead for a while.

With no discussion or support how many NEW users are they getting.
And as old users slowly stop using it, and people here telling people not to use it even fewer new users will come onboard.
So IMO it's just going to slowly fade away.

And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave
staff
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December 08, 2023, 04:21:55 AM
#36
There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

The article hasn't been updated for a long time, and it's around the same time they started being inactive on their other social media accounts.

I think someone here asked about them not a very long time ago, and I tried to reach out to the support through Telegram IIRC, but there wasn't so much help. It does look abandoned but I'm surprised there are not many complaints about them online.
sr. member
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December 07, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
#35
Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?
If it's abandoned, there may be nobody left to remove Monero.
There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.
legendary
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December 07, 2023, 02:11:56 PM
#34
Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Next time ask before using anything, especially old outdated closed source wallets  Wink
Many people here could tell you that about Coinimoi, and there are several alternatives you could use, Stack wallet is one of them for privacy multicoins, or you could just use monero-only wallets.
Maybe even Bisq exchange can work like a wallet, it supports Bitcoin, monero and few other coins.

This is one is last alternative I found for desktop (no xmr), but consider it experimental wallet only!
https://github.com/bitlogik/uniblow

I would say that there is no alternative to Coinomi wallet so far.

All those suggested wallets have problems, like bad bitcoin implementation (no coim control), lack of important coins such as xmr, etc...

I didn't download it now, I have in my phone since 2017.
I had to receive some XMR and it was the most handy alternative ...


Edit:
I won't use Unstoppable again, no coin control is a deal breaker to me.

I will take a look at cake wallet
legendary
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December 07, 2023, 01:51:05 PM
#33
Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?
If it's abandoned, there may be nobody left to remove Monero.
sr. member
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December 07, 2023, 01:41:25 PM
#32


Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!

You have many closed source options for multi-currency wallets and I don't know why anyone would prefer to use currencies like XMR without open source wallets.
There is an easier solution, which is to use Cake wallet.
Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?
legendary
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December 07, 2023, 12:34:47 PM
#31
Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Next time ask before using anything, especially old outdated closed source wallets  Wink
Many people here could tell you that about Coinimoi, and there are several alternatives you could use, Stack wallet is one of them for privacy multicoins, or you could just use monero-only wallets.
Maybe even Bisq exchange can work like a wallet, it supports Bitcoin, monero and few other coins.

This is one is last alternative I found for desktop (no xmr), but consider it experimental wallet only!
https://github.com/bitlogik/uniblow

I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.
It works good, it looks very similar like Electrum wallet, and I think it supports hardware wallets (for people who need that).
legendary
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December 07, 2023, 09:50:58 AM
#30
I don't get it: this is the reason I posted What happened to Coinomi?, which you Merited and linked from your OP. Why did you still use Coinomi for Monero?

I forgot that your problem was with XMR... I opened Unstoppeable I saw that it doesnt support XMR, and I didn't had time to set up a new wallet, I just generated the address with coinomi...

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I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.
I am using Moneruju on android, just ok for now.. Just use for dust too
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 07, 2023, 05:36:16 AM
#29
I used Unstoppeable wallet for some time, but it lacks too many functions (like coin control) and doesnt support many coins.
I don't mind the lack of coins (which I don't use anyway), but coin control is indeed needed. I'm using Tor and "From Blockchain" instead of API for maximum privacy, only to get my inputs connected on-chain.

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Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!
I don't get it: this is the reason I posted What happened to Coinomi?, which you Merited and linked from your OP. Why did you still use Coinomi for Monero?

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Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Last update: March 19, 2022. It's unfortunate.

I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.
hero member
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December 07, 2023, 04:23:57 AM
#28
^ yes, monero is under maintenance since quite a long time, but even other cryptos don't sync, so I was forced to make change too. It's sad to see such handy wallet being abandoned.
legendary
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December 06, 2023, 03:21:29 PM
#27
I will make an update to this topic.

I used Unstoppeable wallet for some time, but it lacks too many functions (like coin control) and doesnt support many coins. So I continued to use Coinomi until now.

Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!

The reason is that they didnt update the monero wallet after the hard fork.

More details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/x79hvt/monero_not_syncing/

and the solution here to recover monero coins from coinomi
https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000039549

In the end, I had to use a coinomi bip39 tool to recover my coins! (https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/)  and download a monero wallet.

Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
legendary
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September 11, 2023, 07:15:50 PM
#26
Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)
There is: it's called "API" instead of "From Blockchain". I think that's the default, so I'm not sure which one you're using. I imagine "API" is like Electrum, while "From Blockchain" is more like Bitcoin Wallet.

Yes, it is default. I used API and Tor off.

It was very slow to complete the first sync. Now it is fast to sync when I open the wallet
hero member
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September 11, 2023, 03:25:15 PM
#25
Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)
There is: it's called "API" instead of "From Blockchain". I think that's the default, so I'm not sure which one you're using. I imagine "API" is like Electrum, while "From Blockchain" is more like Bitcoin Wallet.
legendary
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September 11, 2023, 11:47:08 AM
#24
Do you have thousands of transactions by any chance? and are you using ZEC (I know they have an issue with it syncing)? Otherwise, I know the syncing is a bit slow (maybe a minute or two compared to other wallets) and I have experienced it before, but 10 minutes and you're still at 18%?! That's way too much.

No thousands, but a few dozens (less than a hundred)

Old wallet from 2017, all bitcoin address formats (before bch fork). So I have 4 bitcoin wallets and all of them are syncing independently (legacy , segwit, native segwit and taproot). I also have ethereum from the same time.

Wallet didn't sync yet (I minimized it, and it didn't work in background). I will keep it open for a while... less than 30%..

Maybe it will be slow just the first time.

Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)
staff
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September 11, 2023, 10:11:22 AM
#23
I just downloaded Unstoppable  and imported my coinomi seed.

It is Taking too long to sync (more than 10minutes and still 18%). I am not using Tor.

The wallet also has a heavy UI, too many useless tais like markets, news... I found how to hide some in the options.

Overall good wallet, but I think it could more simple and straightforward,  like electrum

Do you have thousands of transactions by any chance? and are you using ZEC (I know they have an issue with it syncing)? Otherwise, I know the syncing is a bit slow (maybe a minute or two compared to other wallets) and I have experienced it before, but 10 minutes and you're still at 18%?! That's way too much.
legendary
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September 11, 2023, 10:02:36 AM
#22
syncing the wallet takes a lot longer and consumes quite a bit of data.
To emphasize this: if you're going to use Unstoppable Wallet, this is really something to keep in mind. It's on track now to consume more than 10 GB/month in bandwidth, and that's with only 4 coins in the wallet! I'm wondering now: does it download and check full Bitcoin blocks? It kinda makes sense for privacy, but I didn't realize it would be that much. If I'd use mobile data only, this alone would burn through my bundle.

I just downloaded Unstoppable  and imported my coinomi seed.

It is Taking too long to sync (more than 10minutes and still 18%). I am not using Tor.

The wallet also has a heavy UI, too many useless tais like markets, news... I found how to hide some in the options.

Overall good wallet, but I think it could more simple and straightforward,  like electrum
legendary
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September 11, 2023, 03:01:17 AM
#21
syncing the wallet takes a lot longer and consumes quite a bit of data.
To emphasize this: if you're going to use Unstoppable Wallet on mobile data, this is really something to keep in mind. It's on track now to consume more than 10 GB/month in bandwidth, and that's with only 4 coins in the wallet! I'm wondering now: does it download and check full Bitcoin blocks? It kinda makes sense for privacy, but I didn't realize it would be that much. If I'd use mobile data only, this alone would burn through my bundle.
sr. member
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September 11, 2023, 02:11:07 AM
#20
Following LoyceV topic (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62764298), I discovered that coinomi project is abandoned. Sadly he closed his topic and I neeed to open a new one.

I use coinomi since 2017 for  bitcoin, stablecoins and some altcoins when needed. I know it is not safe but I try to keep at most 500 usd there. I like to have crypto in my phone .

As coinomi project is abandoned, not receiving  updates for more than a year, I am looking for a similar multicurrency wallet, for android mobile.

Any suggestions? I don't want to use trust wallet as it is owned by binance.

It's just sad because coinomi, which has been around for a long time in the crypto space, we just hear that it has been neglected, I used to use it too. Maybe I'll just give suggestions and it's up to you to choose what you think is okay from what I'll mention dude.

And Jaxx Liberty is one of them, so far I haven't heard of any serious issues with this non-custodial wallet.

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Pros

Simple interface and setup to manage many different cryptocurrencies
Hierarchical deterministic platform
Secure customer service channel within the app
Partner integrations to purchase and exchange cryptocurrencies

cons

Limited number of cryptocurrencies supported compared to other wallets
No staking interface
No direct support for NFTs in the wallet
Not recommended for holding large amounts of cryptocurrency

source: https://www.investopedia.com/jaxx-liberty-cryptocurrency-wallet-review-5271356

As for Zengo wallet, like Jaxx, I've only known minor issues with it, and I haven't heard of any serious issues.

ZenGo Pros & Cons

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Pros
Beginner Friendly & Easy to Use
High Level of Security with 3FA & MPC Technology
24/7 Live Customer Support
Multi-Chain Wallet

cons

Limited Supported Cryptos
Mid to High-Level Fees
Not All Features Available Worldwide
source: https://everybithelps.io/zengo-review/#google_vignette

And the last one is Unstoppable wallet, I have some issues I just found here this is the link;

- https://www.reddit.com/r/zec/comments/11jjeit/is_unstoppable_wallet_able_to_cope_with_the_zcash/?rdt=45798
- https://github.com/horizontalsystems/unstoppable-wallet-android/issues

Unstoppable Pros and Cons

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Pros:

Supports a wide range of cryptocurrencies, including ERC-721 and ERC-1155 tokens. Offers a built-in NFT marketplace. Uses biometric authentication for security.

Cons: The user interface can be a bit confusing for beginners.

source: https://www.producthunt.com/products/unstoppable-domains/reviews
legendary
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September 10, 2023, 08:17:06 PM
#19
I need a good multicurrency wallet, and a good bitcoin wallet in the same app.

coinomi supported all the best altcoins, and it was an amazing bitcoin wallet. It supported coin control, sign messages, all address formats and so on.

Coinomi haven't gotten update in a while but all it's features still works well, it hasn't been abandoned. Stick with it, until it stops working altogether.



The problem is that it won't receive updates on new vulnerabilities that might be found.

There is a risk using outdated software,  which is not worth
hero member
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September 10, 2023, 07:52:15 PM
#18
I need a good multicurrency wallet, and a good bitcoin wallet in the same app.

coinomi supported all the best altcoins, and it was an amazing bitcoin wallet. It supported coin control, sign messages, all address formats and so on.

Coinomi haven't gotten update in a while but all it's features still works well, it hasn't been abandoned. Stick with it, until it stops working altogether.

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LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
September 10, 2023, 01:37:56 PM
#17
If 10% of the 1 million plus people that downloaded coinomi put in $1 they would have generated $100000 for development & upkeep.
Not a lot but enough to possibly keep it going better then it has.
Usually, apps create a paid version with more features, or without ads. So I guess that's what works for most users.

With Bitcoin related programs, I'm more used to seeing as subtle donation link once in a while. Even if users don't pay, as long as they use it they can contribute by recommending it to others.
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September 10, 2023, 11:04:11 AM
#16
And so on. If 10% of the 1 million plus people that downloaded coinomi put in $1 they would have generated $100000 for development & upkeep.
Not a lot but enough to possibly keep it going better then it has.

Coinomi had some revenue. They used to have integrated swaps such as Changelly and other third party services. They probably received some money from they.

Some coins payed to be listed, and so on.


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Personally I have a dozen little things that I would like to work on. But since they do consume time and generate $0 money they are the last thing on the list to get done so they never get done. If I could even envision a way to generate a little money I could justify pulling some $ out of pocket to pay someone in the hopes that it might make money. But since I KNOW the potential profit is $0 they are free time things....

Sometimes doing for free to learn is very good as well. But those $0 projects might even surprise you.
I recently got a sponsor in my domain. It is a small money, but certainly I now have a great incentive to continue development
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September 10, 2023, 08:37:02 AM
#15
OT, and no I'm not going to do it or even try to find people to do it.
But, does anyone think having an open source but PAID multicoin wallet would work.

There are expenses in putting things in the apple / andriod store
There are expenses in keeping development running.
There are expenses in keeping the back end servers running.

And so on. If 10% of the 1 million plus people that downloaded coinomi put in $1 they would have generated $100000 for development & upkeep.
Not a lot but enough to possibly keep it going better then it has.


Personally I have a dozen little things that I would like to work on. But since they do consume time and generate $0 money they are the last thing on the list to get done so they never get done. If I could even envision a way to generate a little money I could justify pulling some $ out of pocket to pay someone in the hopes that it might make money. But since I KNOW the potential profit is $0 they are free time things....

-Dave
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September 10, 2023, 03:33:30 AM
#14
One thing to keep in mind: when enabling Tor and "More Private" sources, syncing the wallet takes a lot longer and consumes quite a bit of data.

After playing with it's settings a bit, the one thing I really dislike is asking for my PIN when I open the app. I'd like to only enter the PIN when I make a transaction. I guess I'll go without PIN, I only use shitcoins for very small quick payments.



The other issue with unstoppable is that there are a lot of shit coins that are very popular that it does not (or at least did not) support. How can any multicoin wallet not have doge? Yes it's a joke as a coin, but it's popular and used.
It does on the other hand support many centralized coins. There's nothing "unstoppable" about that.
legendary
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September 10, 2023, 02:40:00 AM
#13
AFAIK,  Unstoppable Wallet seems to be the most recommended one for multi-crypto mobile wallet by most of the community members for now.

Not only the Unstoppable Wallet is recommended by the community members for altcoins, but it is also recommended by Theymos here.

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If you have a large variety of different crypto assets that you need to store, there's Unstoppable wallet.

So, I guess everyone should use the open source unstoppable wallet and abandon the use of the closed source Trust wallet.
For bitcoin, I personally use the Electrum wallet and also recommend it to everyone.
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September 09, 2023, 06:23:41 PM
#12
Any suggestions? I don't want to use trust wallet as it is owned by binance.
Don't use Trust wallet or any other similar closed source wallets, but don't expect to find perfect replacement for Coinomi wallet, especially not for mobile devices.

Best option I found so far is Unstoppable.money open source wallet, that has Tor support and support for Bitcoin and few shitcoins.
Another alternative you can try is Komodo Wallet (ex AtomicDEX) that can serve as wallet and atomic swap exchange.
There are few more wallets I tried but they are either in early stages of development or just bad so I won't mention them.
Safest option is probably hardware wallets like Bitbox, Trezor, Keystone, Onekey.
legendary
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September 09, 2023, 06:17:12 PM
#11
I need a good multicurrency wallet, and a good bitcoin wallet in the same app.

coinomi supported all the best altcoins, and it was an amazing bitcoin wallet. It supported coin control, sign messages, all address formats and so on.

Does Unstoppable supports these bitcoin features? I will give it a try.
I used Coinomi for a while and I knew it support signing message and customizing fee, but I did not see it having coin control, I have it on mobile device. Probably it would be the desktop device that has coin control because I have not seen it there before on mobile. It is a close source wallet.

Coinomi is supporting all bitcoin address format until P2TR was activated. It is not supporting P2TR.

Well, coinomi allows you to click the ... and select "shows spendable outputs " and select which one to spend

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000030928-managing-your-utxos
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September 09, 2023, 05:40:29 PM
#10
Added to this,  their fee estimation is pretty vague so you can't estimate the actual fee without looking into https://mempool.space/ like site.


You can't see all the addresses until the created one atleast get a successful transaction.

So as said its good wallet for multiple coins but definitely not the one for Bitcoin.
I have not used it before for bitcoin. The last time I used Electrum wallet because the wallet do not have RBF. I could have used the wallet but the RBF it does not have for bitcoin will not let me use it. Even if I am using Electrum, I still use jochen-hoenicke.de or mempool.space for fee. There can be a good wallet that do not estimate the fee accurately too.

If you send to the wallet, the address will change to another one but you can not see all the addresses, that is true.

It is a good wallet for many coins but not also supporting many coins like that. There are many coins that it is not supporting and it is support just only the peg of some coins like doge. If you want me to begin, I can name many coins it is not supporting but I like it because it is open source.
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September 09, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
#9

It is not supporting coin control.

It can not sign a message.

You can use it to customize fee.


Added to this,  their fee estimation is pretty vague so you can't estimate the actual fee without looking into https://mempool.space/ like site.



You can't see all the addresses until the created one atleast get a successful transaction.

So as said its good wallet for multiple coins but definitely not the one for Bitcoin.
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September 09, 2023, 05:19:25 PM
#8
I need a good multicurrency wallet, and a good bitcoin wallet in the same app.

coinomi supported all the best altcoins, and it was an amazing bitcoin wallet. It supported coin control, sign messages, all address formats and so on.

Does Unstoppable supports these bitcoin features? I will give it a try.
I used Coinomi for a while and I knew it support signing message and customizing fee, but I did not see it having coin control, I have it on mobile device. Probably it would be the desktop device that has coin control because I have not seen it there before on mobile. It is a close source wallet.

Coinomi is supporting all bitcoin address format until P2TR was activated. It is not supporting P2TR.

Unstoppable wallet support legacy, nested segwit, native segwit and P2TR bitcoin addresses.




It is not supporting coin control.

It can not sign a message.

You can use it to customize fee.

Separate your bitcoin wallet from those altcoins because there is not better wallets like those wallet that support bitcoin only like Electrum, Sparrow, Bluewallet. Coinomi even lacks many things that these wallets supports.
legendary
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September 09, 2023, 05:10:37 PM
#7
The other issue with unstoppable is that there are a lot of shit coins that are very popular that it does not (or at least did not) support. How can any multicoin wallet not have doge? Yes it's a joke as a coin, but it's popular and used.

I am with bitmover, in the fact that I use coinomi but never have any real funds in there.

If someone wants my $25 in LTC and $20 in Doge and $20 (ish) in ETH and the other $50 in tokens. Have at it. I have probably saved more then that value in time not having to deal with 3 wallets every time I swapped phones.

I am really surprised that nobody has tried to make a good muticoin wallet. They all seem to get to some point and then go 'meh, good enough'

-Dave



I agree...

I also recommend Unstoppable. If you want something open source, that works for storing alts.

Let me quote myself from LoyceV's thread

Have you considered Unstoppable Wallet? Which is open source multi-crypto available on both Android and IOS.
I need a good multicurrency wallet, and a good bitcoin wallet in the same app.

coinomi supported all the best altcoins, and it was an amazing bitcoin wallet. It supported coin control, sign messages, all address formats and so on.

Does Unstoppable supports these bitcoin features? I will give it a try.
legendary
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September 09, 2023, 04:27:15 PM
#6
The other issue with unstoppable is that there are a lot of shit coins that are very popular that it does not (or at least did not) support. How can any multicoin wallet not have doge? Yes it's a joke as a coin, but it's popular and used.

I am with bitmover, in the fact that I use coinomi but never have any real funds in there.

If someone wants my $25 in LTC and $20 in Doge and $20 (ish) in ETH and the other $50 in tokens. Have at it. I have probably saved more then that value in time not having to deal with 3 wallets every time I swapped phones.

I am really surprised that nobody has tried to make a good muticoin wallet. They all seem to get to some point and then go 'meh, good enough'

-Dave

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September 09, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
#5
The first impression was disappointing though: it shows 4 shitcoins by default, and Tor wasn't enabled. So the default settings need instant changing.
They're also a NFT link on the screen, and unfortunately I can't find how to get rid of it.
I am not into NFT and I did not almost notice the NFT. I do not know how it even works.

It does not support TOR by default and most wallets does not. You can go to settings to enable Tor and it works as usual.

Unstoppable is not for bitcoin. It is  supporting bitcoin but people using bitcoin wallet can not use it because it is a shit bitcoin wallet. It is made for shitcoins.
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September 09, 2023, 02:42:49 PM
#4
I installed Unstoppable Wallet on mobile, as it comes highly recommended.
The first impression was disappointing though: it shows 4 shitcoins by default, and Tor wasn't enabled. So the default settings need instant changing.
They're also a NFT link on the screen, and unfortunately I can't find how to get rid of it.

Other than that, it seems okay.
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September 09, 2023, 02:40:52 PM
#3
I also recommend Unstoppable. If you want something open source, that works for storing alts. Alternatively, and if you don't mind the wallets being closed source, Exodus might be a good choice. They have desktop, mobile apps and also an extension.
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September 09, 2023, 02:36:31 PM
#2
Let me quote myself from LoyceV's thread

Have you considered Unstoppable Wallet? Which is open source multi-crypto available on both Android and IOS.

Their supported coins list - https://www.cryptowisser.com/wallet/unstoppable-wallet/coins?page=1

URL: https://unstoppable.money/
Github: https://github.com/horizontalsystems

AFAIK,  Unstoppable Wallet seems to be the most recommended one for multi-crypto mobile wallet by most of the community members for now.
legendary
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September 09, 2023, 02:31:02 PM
#1
Following LoyceV topic (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62764298), I discovered that coinomi project is abandoned. Sadly he closed his topic and I neeed to open a new one.

I use coinomi since 2017 for  bitcoin, stablecoins and some altcoins when needed. I know it is not safe but I try to keep at most 500 usd there. I like to have crypto in my phone .

As coinomi project is abandoned, not receiving  updates for more than a year, I am looking for a similar multicurrency wallet, for android mobile.

Any suggestions? I don't want to use trust wallet as it is owned by binance.
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