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Topic: Alternative to Patreon? Clica.net, a membership platform based on Bitcoins (Read 21225 times)

newbie
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Since the beginning of this month (May, 2019) we are now accepting credit cards too. So, now the payment methods are: Bitcoins and Credit Cards.

More payment methods being added in the next days Smiley
newbie
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Waiting more pages to launch the "explore" feature with more features coming soon too!
newbie
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Something important to say is that we don't plan to be a platform based on Bitcoins only. I'm studying to accept new payment methods (including credit card directly).

We launched primarily accepting Bitcoins. But you can expect more options in the future. I already have a merchant account and soon, the direct credit card will be added. I'm studying to create video uploads too for PRO accounts.

And finally... It's official and we are going to put this on the website then: NO PLATFORM FEES
newbie
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Hey, just popping in here as a nominal member of the "creative industry". Either on my own peddling my writing skills or lending a helping hand to other artists selling products and goods, I've tried my hand at so many platforms, never tried any of the decentralised or blockchain-based ones like Patreon, as to me, they never really solved the problems of other freelancer platforms, nor did they ever break the hegemony of recognised art platforms like Deviant or even say, suicidegirls. Shop-based gallery types, you'd still find better luck on Etsy and such. So my take is a centralised system still works better, so something like clica, with the option of BTC tipping, is good.

Had started a few months ago a sort of gallery for a young artist, but exam year put a pause to that - might try out something like Clica but have to admit, viewership seems a tad low if exposure is all we're looking for. And then an easy shop interface is better so might be tempted to try your store feature.

Yes, but the traffic will increase and when I create the explore feature, new members will be able to see your page too. There are new members showing up and building their pages there (some porn pages too), the traffic started to increase more.

We need more pages to start the 'explore' feature and to promote much more the platform. Hope to see your page and store there =)

Thanks.

Edit: Today I updated the deposit screen adding more options to instructing the user where to buy bitcoins.

https://i.imgur.com/yZl2W4V.png

-Now the user will see the BuyCoinNow widget with extra links to other options like Coinbase, Coinmama and Coingate.
-Buy with a seller with links to localbitcoins or paxful.
-Buy with a company near you, redirecting to https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com
-Faucets - coming soon
newbie
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Some issues with centering I’ve found. Maybe I did it wrong, otherwise nice work still. This is really coming together.

Hi there. Thanks for supporting clica's crowdfunding page  Smiley

I received your message yesterday, you did everything right, I updated the system today to allow the center tag, now it's working: https://www.clica.net/apsisonline

I'm adding more features this month and I'm waiting more users to release the "explore" page, where everyone will be able to see the pages there.

Thank you very much!
legendary
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Hey, just popping in here as a nominal member of the "creative industry". Either on my own peddling my writing skills or lending a helping hand to other artists selling products and goods, I've tried my hand at so many platforms, never tried any of the decentralised or blockchain-based ones like Patreon, as to me, they never really solved the problems of other freelancer platforms, nor did they ever break the hegemony of recognised art platforms like Deviant or even say, suicidegirls. Shop-based gallery types, you'd still find better luck on Etsy and such. So my take is a centralised system still works better, so something like clica, with the option of BTC tipping, is good.

Had started a few months ago a sort of gallery for a young artist, but exam year put a pause to that - might try out something like Clica but have to admit, viewership seems a tad low if exposure is all we're looking for. And then an easy shop interface is better so might be tempted to try your store feature.
newbie
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Some issues with centering I’ve found. Maybe I did it wrong, otherwise nice work still. This is really coming together.
newbie
Activity: 28
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Since my last message, I did a lot of updates on the platform. I will list below and then write a post about the updates:

-BB Code editor for posts, page descriptions, etc

-Now you can bulk upload images from your device to put inside your post: https://www.clica.net/uploads/attachments/1/GpiqiO3LBu/1813896226696.jpg

-Automatic gallery added on the end of the post, accept all kind of images, gif, jpg, png, etc (when you upload images, the system automatically creates a gallery (all mobile friendly), see a gallery example in this post: https://www.clica.net/posts/create-better-posts-with-the-new-editor-GpiqiO3LBu

-Auto blur the featured images on private posts, example: https://www.clica.net/posts/sample-post-for-mini-supporters-vlK2FQcmA3
The auto blur feature will generate a blur version of your featured image and only members will be able to see the full image, this is a very important feature, because you can show some demo image to attract new members.

-Now you can sell your products too (digital or physical), example: https://www.clica.net/store/clica
As always, you can upload sample images of your product. If the product is digital, the customer download the full product as soon as he buys: https://imgur.com/a/kuxyn6T and physical products, the system asks for the customer's address where the seller will need to ship the product.

-Added the refresh balance link available on the top bar, now when you deposit funds, you don't need to leave the page you are.

More updates coming soon...
newbie
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Merit: 12
Do people have the option of setting up recurring payments by depositing a large amount of BTC onto the website? 

Yes, it's actually how the tiers system works. When you subscribe to a tier from some page, the system deducts from your balance every month. In case you haven't enough balance, the system send email notifications asking for you to add more funds: https://imgur.com/a/E2z699n

If you have enough funds, the system deducts again every day 1 until you cancel or edit to another tier.
newbie
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Do people have the option of setting up recurring payments by depositing a large amount of BTC onto the website? 
newbie
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Thank you very much for voting on clica.net, Ucy Smiley we are on the first page now! Here the link in case other people want to contribute too: https://alternativeto.net/software/clica-net/

Hey ClicaNet looks great man! Interesting concept!  If I may suggest something, please consider adding support for Litecoin too! Why? Sometimes you want to contribute some small amounts to some creators or something, and Bitcoin doesn't really lend itself well for such cases due to higher miner fees when sending and such.

Yes, sure, we plan to accept other coins too (including direct Fiat too, by directly processing credit cards).

Thanks!
jr. member
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Hey ClicaNet looks great man! Interesting concept!  If I may suggest something, please consider adding support for Litecoin too! Why? Sometimes you want to contribute some small amounts to some creators or something, and Bitcoin doesn't really lend itself well for such cases due to higher miner fees when sending and such.
Ucy
sr. member
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Nice! I think Promotion matters alot.  If the project is useful and irresistible many will come.

If you can convince popular youtubers and  crypto 'influencers' to use it then it is a site worth using.
You should consider adding a donation button.
Good job.

Thanks man, the donation page is already set here: https://clica.net/clica

I'll edit my own tiers to tell people to donate there if they want to support the project. Another way to support is voting on the software by clicking on the like button on this page: https://alternativeto.net/software/clica-net so other people will discover the website as an alternative to Patreon too.

I'm adding more features here and the topic will be updated soon with these new things.

Thank you all Smiley

Done.
newbie
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I've just trying to sign up the website, and so far is so good. I'd like the straightforward design. It would be a great alternative for Patreon, a censorship-free membership platform that offers cryptocurrency. Further developments and marketing still needed though, it requires a room to grow before the website able to gain widespread user.

Thank you very much =)

Yes, I'll do some marketing too to promote the website and users inside too when I finish the "explore creators" page. I'm just waiting more pages to create this feature.

Well sign me up!

I’ve just created a page for my own command-line social network, Blackpage. Nice work Clica! Looking forward to using your platform.

Nice! Your page and project is very good =) Welcome aboard!
newbie
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legendary
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I've just trying to sign up the website, and so far is so good. I'd like the straightforward design. It would be a great alternative for Patreon, a censorship-free membership platform that offers cryptocurrency. Further developments and marketing still needed though, it requires a room to grow before the website able to gain widespread user.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 12
Nice! I think Promotion matters alot.  If the project is useful and irresistible many will come.

If you can convince popular youtubers and  crypto 'influencers' to use it then it is a site worth using.
You should consider adding a donation button.
Good job.

Thanks man, the donation page is already set here: https://clica.net/clica

I'll edit my own tiers to tell people to donate there if they want to support the project. Another way to support is voting on the software by clicking on the like button on this page: https://alternativeto.net/software/clica-net so other people will discover the website as an alternative to Patreon too.

I'm adding more features here and the topic will be updated soon with these new things.

Thank you all Smiley
newbie
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That was amazing! Thank you very much!

Yes, it's helping a lot, new people are registering there, and soon I'll post here more updates I'm doing (including the multilanguage feature) Smiley
legendary
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You've already seen it on Twitter, but I'll mention it here as well.
I've written an article for you and got some pretty positive responses on it.

https://steemit.com/news/@daan/censorship-free-alternative-for-patreon-and-subscribestar-support-creators-with-bitcoin-through-clica-net

I hope it brings some more people to your platform Smiley
Ucy
sr. member
Activity: 2674
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Compare rates on different exchanges & swap.
Nice! I think Promotion matters alot.  If the project is useful and irresistible many will come.

If you can convince popular youtubers and  crypto 'influencers' to use it then it is a site worth using.
You should consider adding a donation button.
Good job.
legendary
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Yeah, they're actually not approving many accounts right now, it's better to just pay a small fee to create one through either Blocktrades or AnonSteem.
Then it's instant Smiley

https://blocktrades.us/create-steem-account
https://anon.steem.network/

newbie
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You're welcome Smiley

Don't worry and happy holidays! Since our last talk, I added a better editor for posts, now you can add external images, bold, italic, YouTube videos on your posts. I'm adding now the possibility to put attachments on the posts too and to embed the attachments inside the post (if it's image).

Thanks for the follow. I created an account on Steemit 3 weeks ago, but it was not approved yet.

Edit: Here a screenshot showing the new editor: https://i.imgur.com/2cgxc57.png
legendary
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Thanks for the feature on your Twitter account! I'm still going to write that article soon, possibly tomorrow.
First have some family obligations because of the holidays, you know how it is Wink

Gave you a follow and retweeted your post.

Also consider creating a Steemit account for yourself, be sure to mention it when you do, then I'll add you to my auto-upvote queue.
newbie
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I started promoting on my Twitter some pages there that already uploaded some header or profile image. Soon, I hope to promote on the website too when the website reaches more users Smiley

https://twitter.com/clicadotnet

Edit: I added a shortcut for page url's too, right now. No need to put the /user/ on the link anymore. Example: https://www.clica.net/clica

It will redirect (301) to https://www.clica.net/user/clica
newbie
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About the fees, when the owner of the page request the withdraw, 9% will be deducted as our commission. The fee is needed so we can keep growing, the only way to make all 100% free is to put advertising on the website like pop-ups or banners, but I don't like this idea.
That's some big fees. Patreon only takes 5% of successfully-processed payments.

You sure you don't want to lower that a little bit?

Sure, we are still studying about the fees yet but I'll reduce. Patreon fees are 10% (5% for them, 5% for banks). From these 9%, I'll probably need pay some 2% or 3% for the blockchain transactions fees when paying the creators.
legendary
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About the fees, when the owner of the page request the withdraw, 9% will be deducted as our commission. The fee is needed so we can keep growing, the only way to make all 100% free is to put advertising on the website like pop-ups or banners, but I don't like this idea.
That's some big fees. Patreon only takes 5% of successfully-processed payments.

You sure you don't want to lower that a little bit?
newbie
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Wow! another alternative on likes of Patreon site. I will test this out later on and give some feedbacks. Reading eternalgloom posts gives out already sites impressions.Good work

Thanks, hope you like it Smiley All feedback is welcome.
newbie
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Looks interesting, I'll check this out.

Especially as I have been looking into a patreon for doiownashitcoin.com one day.

Cheers

Nice! You're welcome to create your page there Smiley

Edit: NO FEES.

I'm thinking to add then some faucet page too, where the user can see some ads in exchange for Bitcoins (still studying this).
full member
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hero member
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Wow! another alternative on likes of Patreon site. I will test this out later on and give some feedbacks. Reading eternalgloom posts gives out already sites impressions.Good work
legendary
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Good tip, didn't notice that at first.

Changed it to: https://www.clica.net/user/daan

Now it's a bit more readable Smiley
full member
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Looks interesting, I'll check this out.

Especially as I have been looking into a patreon for doiownashitcoin.com one day.

Cheers
newbie
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Yes, I'll turn the email notifications on by default.

Oh, and it's possible to change the URL of your page too, when you click settings you can change that big number to something more recognizable like my page for example: https://www.clica.net/user/clica
legendary
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I didn't receive the e-mail notifications, since they were turned off by default.
I've turned them on now though.

I personally wouldn't mind if they were turned on by default, since I'd want to know when someone supports me.
That's definitely not considered spam IMO.
newbie
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Nice, I'm really glad you enjoyed it, can't wait to see more people using to add the "explore creators" features, so I can promote all pages there by turning them public on the first page.
newbie
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That's amazing, thank you very much! Yes, right now to refresh the balance works only when you click on the button to refresh. I did that to make the pages load faster (otherwise, the system will check the balance everytime the user click on any page and this may take some extra seconds to make the page load).

I'll probably add the refresh balance arrow on the top.

Do you received the e-mail notifications too?

Thanks for testing and for the article too Smiley
legendary
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Aha yeah, I was a bit confused.
Refreshing the page itself didn't show my deposit, but clicking the little refresh button next to my balance did the job. (probably something with the browser cache)

It's working pretty good, I have to say. I'll write an article on Steemit about your service, probably next week or so, I'll let you know when it's published.
https://steemit.com/@daan

And thanks for being my first subscriber! Wink

Edit:

I'll look at this some more tomorrow and i'll probably build my page a bit more.
Really cool project, I'm a big fan!
newbie
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Nice! Now you have a new member Smiley

Right now is 0 confirmations, but I'll change to wait for 1 confirmation then, to avoid double spend.
legendary
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Yup, received it and sent it to my other account, same e-mail address, but with an 8 between my first and last name Wink
Just made the deposit, waiting for confirmations.

Here's my creator account:

https://www.clica.net/user/1102583103

How many confirmations do deposits need before they show up in your account btw?
You might want to add that information somewhere.
newbie
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Right! I just sent you $2 so you can test: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/58a8ffcb708801f2277edcb030032660cae969270ec18d8c6fa1fa584089473d

Click on Deposit and transfer to the wallet there. Then, wait some seconds and click on "Refresh Balance".

And, paste your link here so I can subscribe you too Smiley

Thanks
legendary
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Thanks for the feedback! Yes, like eternalgloom said, the price in dollars will be to attract people that doesn't know too much what is a bitcoin, it's more for easy undestanding / conversion.

Eternalgloom, the address you sent me is your BTC address? I tried here to check on blockchain and appears to be wrong: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qltpzzzyglvtqttxe2wk7zdd0njr4u2xt5g4m9x

I'll send you some Bitcoins so you can test (I already tested it with 3 accounts, I can subscribe to your page if that's the case), and you will see how it works, what do you think?

It's a Bech32 segwit address, blockchain.com doesn't support that Wink

Normally you can send it using most wallets, I personally use Electrum.
If it doesn't work you can also use this, but I'd spend more on fees Tongue

1L4YivhNy444LqkU12jJvHCX81zTYG1Sxz

Edit:

Yeah or you can just support me directly, I'll give you a review afterwards Smiley
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 12
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, like eternalgloom said, the price in dollars will be to attract people that doesn't know too much what is a bitcoin, it's more for easy undestanding / conversion.

Eternalgloom, the address you sent me is your BTC address? I tried here to check on blockchain and appears to be wrong: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qltpzzzyglvtqttxe2wk7zdd0njr4u2xt5g4m9x

I'll send you some Bitcoins so you can test (I already tested it with 3 accounts, I can subscribe to your page if that's the case), and you will see how it works, what do you think?
legendary
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Some general feedback

1. Please accept other major coins like ETH/Doge along with Bitcoins.
2. The website is nicely designed but still lacks the professional structuring. This is important because your project has potential and you don't want someone else to do it better than you.
3. You said the prices will be displayed in dollars why? It's a Bitcoin-based platform and you should motivate people to get used to bitcoin units.

I don't quite agree with points 1 and 3.

1. It's not bad to just start out with accepting Bitcoin exclusively, this is obviously a new service, he doesn't have to accept multiple cryptocurrencies all at once.

3. Nothing wrong with that. It's just easier for people. I imagine he also wants to attract regular users; I personally don't even want to do the calculations myself anyways.
Besides with the volatility being so high, it also makes sense to use the fiat equivalents.
legendary
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Some general feedback

1. Please accept other major coins like ETH/Doge along with Bitcoins.
2. The website is nicely designed but still lacks the professional structuring. This is important because your project has potential and you don't want someone else to do it better than you.
3. You said the prices will be displayed in dollars why? It's a Bitcoin-based platform and you should motivate people to get used to bitcoin units.
legendary
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Okay, testing it in a few days, I have someone who's willing to test it out, but they're not available at the moment.
If you're interested, you can always send a small amount in Bitcoin just for testing purposes.

I have no problem using my own money, but it will take a bit longer in that case Tongue

If you're interested: bc1qltpzzzyglvtqttxe2wk7zdd0njr4u2xt5g4m9x (a couple of dollars would suffice)
Then I'd just create another account myself and 'support' myself through your website.

I'm not going to put my reputation here on the line to scam you and it's completely up to you anyway. It would just speed up the testing process.
newbie
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Nice! Thank you very much, all feedback is welcome and I'll be adding much more features, like an API to create automatic integrations with websites: https://github.com/clicanet/clica_api

Widgets for websites too (in Javascript) and the possibility to add images on the tiers.

Well, there are a lot yet, I'll be updating everything on the blog, twitter, etc.
legendary
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Aha, great I see it!

I'll ask someone tomorrow to test it out, that will probably give you some more info as well Wink
Will update soon and report any bugs or issues when I come across them!
newbie
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Merit: 12
Yes, the subscriptions are monthly. So, if I deposit $10 in my wallet and subscribe your page for $2 / month for example, I'm charged $2 in that moment and $2 again every day 1 of next months. If I run out of funds, the system will automatically cancel the subscription and the member will lose access to posts on that tier.

About the page, I just created right now a page where you can see your page's link and you can tweet or share on Facebook too.

Click on "My Page > Settings > Invite your friend"

https://i.imgur.com/5CuCNlq.png

Thanks Smiley
legendary
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No problem, the signup process for very straightforward and went without any issues.

Do people have the option of setting up recurring payments by depositing a large amount of BTC onto the website?
I've signed up as a creator, so I'm not sure if I can see if that works.

Also, how do I actually share my page with people? Tongue
newbie
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Merit: 12
Thank you very much for testing Smiley

I'm adding bb code in the next days too, with that you will be able to embed videos from YouTube, Vimeo, etc on your posts with a code like that: [youtube]video_url[/youtube]

And then I'll add the possibility to put more images on the posts too.
legendary
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Just created a page for testing it out, looking pretty good actually.
I mean, the design is way less appeasing to the eye than Patreon's design, but that shouldn't matter too much.

I wish I could test it with video content, but I don't have any such content that I could put on there.
newbie
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We will create an "explore creators" place showing the pages created there too.
newbie
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Merit: 12
Hello everyone, after so much time working we're finally announcing this week the new version of Clica.net, we exist since 2010 (but as a blog only) and now we are open for everyone who wants to sell monthly membership plans, digital or physical products, create paid posts, create subscription tiers, etc. It's easy to use and mobile friendly. We're adding more features in the next days too. Below a print of the deposit screen.

https://i.imgur.com/5GTozst.jpg

You can enter and create your page (it's free).

Hope to hear some feedback from you.

Thanks
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