Alts of scammers {Shield scam report #1}

suchmoon

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Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 21, 2016, 08:17:37 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 21, 2016, 09:46:54 AM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 21, 2016, 12:14:06 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:42:32 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

You mean FROM? zecexe sold the iCeSaiah account to you?

If you bought the account why hasn't your password been changed in the last 30 days?

I'm not yet fully paid that's why I'm not allowed to change the password and before he can release the signed message of the account. Last week I asked for a help due to personal problem and he insisted me to buy the account. So, we had an agreement that I can use the account to help me to earn fast because of my issue but be sure that I can pay him on time. That's why I join a campaign signature so that I can pay him fully.

How much did you pay for the account? How much more do you need to pay?

He sold me for 0.025BTC, and I have a balance of 0.01BTC.

So you paid 0.015 BTC on January 14, 2016? What's the TX ID for that payment?

iCeSaiah

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Quote from: suchmoon on January 21, 2016, 09:46:54 AM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 21, 2016, 12:14:06 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:42:32 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

You mean FROM? zecexe sold the iCeSaiah account to you?

If you bought the account why hasn't your password been changed in the last 30 days?

I'm not yet fully paid that's why I'm not allowed to change the password and before he can release the signed message of the account. Last week I asked for a help due to personal problem and he insisted me to buy the account. So, we had an agreement that I can use the account to help me to earn fast because of my issue but be sure that I can pay him on time. That's why I join a campaign signature so that I can pay him fully.

How much did you pay for the account? How much more do you need to pay?

He sold me for 0.025BTC, and I have a balance of 0.01BTC.

suchmoon

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Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 21, 2016, 12:14:06 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:42:32 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

You mean FROM? zecexe sold the iCeSaiah account to you?

If you bought the account why hasn't your password been changed in the last 30 days?

I'm not yet fully paid that's why I'm not allowed to change the password and before he can release the signed message of the account. Last week I asked for a help due to personal problem and he insisted me to buy the account. So, we had an agreement that I can use the account to help me to earn fast because of my issue but be sure that I can pay him on time. That's why I join a campaign signature so that I can pay him fully.

How much did you pay for the account? How much more do you need to pay?

iCeSaiah

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Activity: 154

Merit: 100

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:42:32 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

You mean FROM? zecexe sold the iCeSaiah account to you?

If you bought the account why hasn't your password been changed in the last 30 days?

I'm not yet fully paid that's why I'm not allowed to change the password and before he can release the signed message of the account. Last week I asked for a help due to personal problem and he insisted me to buy the account. So, we had an agreement that I can use the account to help me to earn fast because of my issue but be sure that I can pay him on time. That's why I join a campaign signature so that I can pay him fully.

suchmoon

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Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:38:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

You mean FROM? zecexe sold the iCeSaiah account to you?

If you bought the account why hasn't your password been changed in the last 30 days?

iCeSaiah

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Activity: 154

Merit: 100

Quote from: suchmoon on January 20, 2016, 11:37:40 PM

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

No I'm not zecexe, as I said I bought this account to him.

suchmoon

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Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 20, 2016, 11:15:16 PM

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you "zecexe"?

iCeSaiah

full member

Activity: 154

Merit: 100

Sorry for late reply, to suchmoon kindly remove the negative trust that you tagged to my account, I already replied to this thread. Last week (January 14, 2015)I bought this account by the named "zecexe"(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-account-was-banned-1331897) and I'm the new owner.

suchmoon

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Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 16, 2016, 10:54:18 AM

I may be missing something.

I'm sure you understand it all.

Which part are you having trouble with? Let me know if the following makes sense.

If address1 and address2 are on the input side of the transaction then the transaction needs to be signed with both private keys. Generally this means both address1 and address2 are controlled by the same person. Technically there might be two exceptions - shared wallets where a third party controls the keys, and also there is a way for different entities to sign such a transaction - that's why I asked for an explanation from the alleged scammer in the other thread but he/she failed to provide anything credible.

Shield is proving two things: 1) that users staked or otherwise claimed certain addresses here in the forum; and as per above 2) that an address of a known scammer is an input to a transaction together with an address of another user.

For example:

https://blockchain.info/tx/8d617fc2c82e5a582bb2fa8e752dc7043f7b9653c0d66a147645ce663dc58d4b

Inputs are:

1Q9krviJY4QaXAzdG4HxJjS1kNnzXoWovJ (Ayoko as per OP)
19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7 (iCeSaiah as per OP)

Timelord2067

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Quote from: Shield on January 16, 2016, 10:45:32 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 16, 2016, 10:27:00 AM

You've amended your OP far beyond what it originally was.

Plus, you use the term Proof, exactly how? Other than one wallet sending coins to another wallet, what is the over-arcing connection?

Persons such as Quickseller's gun-ho approach arbitrarily dispensing rough justice amounted to nothing when s/he was removed from the DT - it's only a matter of time before the scammers revisit those accounts and the scams will start again.

From the little I 've read (yes, I haven't read it all) your only Proof is that one wallet sent funds to another wallet.

these aren't wallet send funds from one to other but they are sending money together to any other wallet ,means linked transaction which means both address are controlled by same person.

Edit:
read below posts,suchmoon explains it

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13564377
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13564449

I may be missing something.

I'm sure you understand it all.

Shield

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Activity: 333

Merit: 250

Quote from: Timelord2067 on January 16, 2016, 10:27:00 AM

You've amended your OP far beyond what it originally was.

Plus, you use the term Proof, exactly how? Other than one wallet sending coins to another wallet, what is the over-arcing connection?

Persons such as Quickseller's gun-ho approach arbitrarily dispensing rough justice amounted to nothing when s/he was removed from the DT - it's only a matter of time before the scammers revisit those accounts and the scams will start again.

From the little I 've read (yes, I haven't read it all) your only Proof is that one wallet sent funds to another wallet.

these aren't wallet send funds from one to other but they are sending money together to any other wallet ,means linked transaction which means both address are controlled by same person.

Edit:
read below posts,suchmoon explains it

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13564377
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13564449

Timelord2067

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Activity: 3696

Merit: 2219

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You've amended your OP far beyond what it originally was.

Plus, you use the term Proof, exactly how? Other than one wallet sending coins to another wallet, what is the over-arcing connection?

Persons such as Quickseller's gun-ho approach arbitrarily dispensing rough justice amounted to nothing when s/he was removed from the DT - it's only a matter of time before the scammers revisit those accounts and the scams will start again.

From the little I 've read (yes, I haven't read it all) your only Proof is that one wallet sent funds to another wallet.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: Shield on January 13, 2016, 07:55:58 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on January 13, 2016, 07:51:26 AM

Quote from: james.lent on January 13, 2016, 07:48:46 AM

You're doing a great job mate.. keep it up

True, but he is sometimes too aggressive with the negatives where neutrals may suffice. As for the evidence, unless it is me who discovered/digged it, you have to explain it to me as if I'm 5 year old child heh, for me to understnad

I give negative because its a note to their profile but doesn't affect their trust score
anyone who trust my ratings can add me to their trust list and see those rating by default for others they are just a warning comment

negative is better then neutral so anyone who deal with those may know there is someone wrong and they must use escrow or trade with caution.

btw thanks for advice
I will think about this Wink

However, should you ever become a Default Trust user, all of you trust dished out are then overly weighted if they are heavy handed...

... similarly, should a person on the DT suddenly be removed (as has happened a couple of times recently) all of those neg reps evaporated overnight and Alts who were pinged negative now have a clean slates to start scamming again.

Shield

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on January 13, 2016, 07:51:26 AM

Quote from: james.lent on January 13, 2016, 07:48:46 AM

You're doing a great job mate.. keep it up

True, but he is sometimes too aggressive with the negatives where neutrals may suffice. As for the evidence, unless it is me who discovered/digged it, you have to explain it to me as if I'm 5 year old child heh, for me to understnad

I give negative because its a note to their profile but doesn't affect their trust score
anyone who trust my ratings can add me to their trust list and see those rating by default for others they are just a warning comment

negative is better then neutral so anyone who deal with those may know there is someone wrong and they must use escrow or trade with caution.

btw thanks for advice
I will think about this Wink

Edit: looks like mexxer-2 don't want to listen the truth, blocked me for sending him PM Grin

mexxer-2

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Quote from: james.lent on January 13, 2016, 07:48:46 AM

You're doing a great job mate.. keep it up

True, but he is sometimes too aggressive with the negatives where neutrals may suffice. As for the evidence, unless it is me who discovered/digged it, you have to explain it to me as if I'm 5 year old child heh, for me to understand
Edit: Considering no one else has left a negative yet, I believe "explaining as if I am a 5 year old" rule, applies to them too Tongue

james.lent

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You're doing a great job mate.. keep it up

Shield

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Link to scammer profile

Ayoko
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ayoko-532293
btc address 1Q9krviJY4QaXAzdG4HxJjS1kNnzXoWovJ
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13512771

Their alts

iCeSaiah
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/icesaiah-544634
btc address 19GnJe2U9ynHCS7QzWbSoRxDxDhW4n1yV7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12973464

Proof
https://blockchain.info/tx/8d617fc2c82e5a582bb2fa8e752dc7043f7b9653c0d66a147645ce663dc58d4b

andesite (currently controlled by lender Erkallys for collateral)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/andesite-554176
btc address 1G2Q8SfTZkTfGdk5NcMjF76rUBdAsKbG6A
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13434934

Proof linked with iCeSaiah alt of Ayoko
https://blockchain.info/tx/3bd1650b05a0291a166fc9f5bc7c3f58046be44dd2ce273d6a2eddab26394281

fernswift
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fernswift-552827
btc address 1H5nN2KdcZBZcHkoNnu1NeeLLQDMqY3ZmL
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12925665

Proof linked with andesite alt of Ayoko
https://blockchain.info/tx/8db64382a7072037a201bc0e4af7737f0808dd340935431720ef3da2b9d16fb6

carpenterprocesses
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carpenterprocesses-551602
btc address 1GH2AD1mdZdStt41tLehDpwpVVmthn71sY
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12925793

Proof linked with andesite alt of Ayoko
https://blockchain.info/tx/8db64382a7072037a201bc0e4af7737f0808dd340935431720ef3da2b9d16fb6

fizzling
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fizzling-554174
btc address 1DiB23k1XKWaorE43PY2Rg9UrusLw5Snvn
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/it-is-over-you-may-earn-01-bitcoin-if-you-share-this-topic-1236993

Proof
Linked tx with 1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ
https://blockchain.info/tx/b0a2864fcf79b47444637bfb2bc4036424dd9a2349866dd20dd717c09af7411d

1M3q1pWiQ8zz3JPF65B1WEaJo1EiX33LJQ linked with ayoko alt's bitcoin address
https://blockchain.info/tx/8db64382a7072037a201bc0e4af7737f0808dd340935431720ef3da2b9d16fb6

those accounts are controlled by same person,no password changed since the time they posted bitcoin address

Topic: Alts of scammers {Shield scam report #1} (Read 1013 times)