Topic: am I wrong ??? (Read 430 times)
If only the team right now, or in the future, decides to post bounty campaigns, that pays ethereum coin or bitcoin value, even if it has just a few but really have a value, it would help the projects coins not to dump its price.
The best option to avoid dump by hunters as they always say and think is to pay bounty hunters in btc, eth or usdt, by so doing, the bounty hunter wouldn't have anything to do with the token but my plea is that bounty hunters should be paid when due.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
You are abit wrong, bounty hunters and developers are on a contract (which is the bounty campaign), after campaign is over, and payment is made, every individual is entitled to make their own decisions
which includes, hodling, selling, or buying more.
It's a free market so I should be free to do with my reward whatever and whenever I want. There is a solution against the dump of bounty rewards around already. Some projects just lock them for some time and that's it. The rest give the reward piece by piece with time. Different realization but the same meaning.
I agree! I don't know why some of the investors are blaming the bounty hunter for price dump, they always says that its because of the bounty hunter but in reality the total allocation for tokens present on bounty hunters are just less than 5% of the total token supply. They should blame things like that on huge investors isn't it ?
Honestly, the idea does not look very attractive, because everything you are talking about is quite possible to do for several accounts and KYC too!
No, you're not wrong. We, as the bounty hunters, need to be paid in the time because we have already done so many works in the period of the bounty campaign.
Bounty hunting is a voluntary thing, so if a person wants, he does, and if not, he is looking for another bounty!
Actually, the dev should know that is the risk of making a coin or token. Every people who get the rewards by token will sell the token because they need money for their life. It's not the fault of the bounty hunters because they only want to exchange their tokens into ethereum which more guarantee for them to trade or sell it into fiat or bitcoin. This is a dilemma for the dev and the dev and the teams should find out how to solve this so their tokens can stay at the high price and not getting dump after release on the market.
I think the suggestion that you say have a point too. many disposals occur and it's bad to have an impact on the coins of the ICO new entry on the market. but the deciding factor is certainly not just of it just so fix this aspect of the holder only less so right because even the bounty hunter has a role and a small allocation.
yes you are wrong from my point of view.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
what can a mere 2% of all token affect the price? it's 2% divided to all participant. so think about it you own a part of 0.00008% of the token, if you sold it did it have any impact on a whole market for it's token?When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
NO. the survival of the token not guarantee by who join the bounty campaign, but it was how the team manage the project after it completed it's ICO phase. 
I am confused to hold coins longer, ICO has no protection against tokens that have been registered on the market. they focus more on developing real projects.
finally ico is a race to throw tokens.
finally ico is a race to throw tokens.
In such market like this, smart bounty hunters certainly don’t sell tokens of promising projects because they understand that tokens will have to be sold on a new wave of growth
I agree, I have now a lot of tokens left from 2017 , and they fell very well somewhere around -85% , but I think the strong will certainly survive and can give good money! 
I think a very reasonable proposal to pay no tokens project and in BTC, USD or ETH. So it is possible to keep the rate the coins from falling.
Nope.. you are wrong.
Of course it is preferably for project if bounty hunters hold tokens as longer as possible.
But, it is more important for projects with small amount of tokens sold.
And your second proposal.. not really sure that I got an idea
Of course it is preferably for project if bounty hunters hold tokens as longer as possible.
But, it is more important for projects with small amount of tokens sold.
And your second proposal.. not really sure that I got an idea
Yeh, now doing bounty isn't profitable. All projects delay token listing because of the bearish market. I think that they can re-buy bountyhunters tokens if they don't want to list tokens.
I am a bounty hunter as well and I have nothing against the token lock. Hunters that are dumping do not get that they are killing the project and nobody will get profit, besides the peanuts that the dumpers got at the beginning by selling under the ICO price.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
Bounty managers or project devs would not follow your idea so it is wrong
Do you know why ?
Bounty hunting needs a lot of people, not hundreds, but atleast a thousand to spread across and market the project.
With your terms, bounty programs won’t get 100 participants overall
In such market like this, smart bounty hunters certainly don’t sell tokens of promising projects because they understand that tokens will have to be sold on a new wave of growth
OP, I just feel that might not work, because a new project that has no correlation with other past projects, would not benefit of one decides to hold others.
What if I just retain little of those previous tokens and I already sold the bulk? It does not change anything.
What I believe is that, a lot of bounty participants need a lot of orientations, as regards dumping of tokens. Then the project also has to be good and be handled by professionals, to prevent dump.
What if I just retain little of those previous tokens and I already sold the bulk? It does not change anything.
What I believe is that, a lot of bounty participants need a lot of orientations, as regards dumping of tokens. Then the project also has to be good and be handled by professionals, to prevent dump.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
You are surely right but I don't think price only decreases when bounty hunters sell their tokens. It all depends upon market conditions. In my early days of bounty campaigns in 2017 I saw price rising like anything after bounty reward distribution, I agree price may come down temporarily after bounty selling but it does not mean it will dump. For an example Opporty tokens have not distributed bounty rewards yet but its price has depreciated like anything, so I believe it all depends upon market sentiments.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
I didn't saw any bounty were asking for such requirment to particpate on theri campaign but it is not good to ask them to store their coins even after it listed on exchanges because they are working for money so they have all the rights to use their rewards as they want. When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
It's a free market so I should be free to do with my reward whatever and whenever I want. There is a solution against the dump of bounty rewards around already. Some projects just lock them for some time and that's it. The rest give the reward piece by piece with time. Different realization but the same meaning.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
You are quite right it could reduce the use of multiple accounts to an extent and therefore curb the need for KYC hence protecting participants data. There should not be any big criteria for bounty hunters afterall hunters are the ones helping to promote the project. They get their job done, get paid and walk away. Locking up of token should be for investors or if it must be for everyone then it should be first announced on the bounty page so that hunters can have a choice whether to participate or not.
Reducing of multiply shitposter accounts will lead to bounty members decreasing and increasing of rewards respectively, so I'd like to do so, but KYC means that all bounty members should send their personal documents to someone who they don't know. How can they be assured he's legit? It's not a good proposal for sure
such a condition will not be performed by any smart bounty hunter. maybe someone holds the tokens in his wallet, but as for me it is better immediately transfer them to the exchange and place orders.
I agree with you mate,i also take part on placing orders as soon as they can still be traded with value.There are really people who wanted to profit as- payments of being bounty hundred.
why do you have to choose bounty with terms that in my opinion are a bit too difficult, especially with the bounty that requires this KYC not to promise that some of my follow-up results are empty, because of some of the bitter experiences I have gone through, I am more selectively participating in bounty campaigns based on those the first time was the Bounty Manager, because this is where we know the project that will be launched has a future or not, especially with the many bounties that fail / scam, of course the BMs have implemented a separate system from the way they work because their first name will be harmed as BM if the project is a scam.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
You are quite right it could reduce the use of multiple accounts to an extent and therefore curb the need for KYC hence protecting participants data. There should not be any big criteria for bounty hunters afterall hunters are the ones helping to promote the project. They get their job done, get paid and walk away. Locking up of token should be for investors or if it must be for everyone then it should be first announced on the bounty page so that hunters can have a choice whether to participate or not.
I think the developers themselves are afraid for their tokens, which are now being thrown off by huge amounts, even instead of tokens, they are proposing to introduce stocks, checking every investor. So you can understand them here too, but basically we are always left with nothing.
Especially in this market, it is possible to earn a little bounty hunters, I think if you're lucky the prices will rise only when there is a bullish bitcoin market! 
that is a terrible idea and it will not change anything at all.
it is terrible because you are forcing people to hold your coin whereas you should have tried making them see the potential of the coin and choose to hold on their own. in other words if a project does that, then the developers are admitting that their coin is a shitcoin that nobody is going to hold unless they are forced to do so.
it is not going to change anything because it is not just the bounty hunters that dump a coin! it is everyone else. and you can't force everyone else to hold! they will dump. not to mention that when that date comes, the bounty hunters will also dump so you are just delaying the inevitable.
it is terrible because you are forcing people to hold your coin whereas you should have tried making them see the potential of the coin and choose to hold on their own. in other words if a project does that, then the developers are admitting that their coin is a shitcoin that nobody is going to hold unless they are forced to do so.
it is not going to change anything because it is not just the bounty hunters that dump a coin! it is everyone else. and you can't force everyone else to hold! they will dump. not to mention that when that date comes, the bounty hunters will also dump so you are just delaying the inevitable.
I dont think main problem is with bounty hunters but with early investors ,before main ICO i mean mean pre ico or even close sails so they have big discounts.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
Yep, what you said have some unreasonable things. If the above conditions are met, I think amount of participants will also not be much and that is not what projects want
I think the developers themselves are afraid for their tokens, which are now being thrown off by huge amounts, even instead of tokens, they are proposing to introduce stocks, checking every investor. So you can understand them here too, but basically we are always left with nothing.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
Well one fact no developer or bounty manager seems not to understand is that
Kyc does not stop multiple accounts
It cannot stop it, even developers and team members want to dump the tokens they got as shele
So who are bounty managers not to dump ??
The ico projects do not seem to hear to bounty hunters suggestions especially after the campaign is over. What i have felt is that most icos have intentionally put on hold the bounty rewards, some have locked the tokens and some are not listing on exchange. I think all these things are being done due to the fear of massive dump considering the massive bears in the market but then again this is not the way out and bounty hunters should get their reward for the work they have put in as soon as possible.
the condition of holding 20 tokens from the ended projects is something strange. First of all how to be new people in bounty campaigns? secondly, those who already take part in the bounty, they do not hold tokens in such a market, but immediately selling them
such a condition will not be performed by any smart bounty hunter. maybe someone holds the tokens in his wallet, but as for me it is better immediately transfer them to the exchange and place orders.
yes completely wrong; the part reserved for the bounty doesn't exceed 2% of token sold and most of the ico pays bounty 4 weeks at least after the ico end.
So if there is a condition to add to the ICO is to freez the part reserved for the ICO team (~ 10%) and reserve part of the money rised during ico to pump the token in case of suddent dump.
So if there is a condition to add to the ICO is to freez the part reserved for the ICO team (~ 10%) and reserve part of the money rised during ico to pump the token in case of suddent dump.
you're not wrong!
Prices are moving every minutes, and they all doing that just to sell the token before anyone could touch the exchanges.
Prices are moving every minutes, and they all doing that just to sell the token before anyone could touch the exchanges.
Its better to sell the tokens once after listing in the exchange, why I am saying this is there were a lot of genuine bounty projects but these days its completely opposite. A lot of them are scammer's one of my friend worked for a bounty project for 4 months and he even got the tokens he was waiting to sell once it get listed but now the project is not even in the website. He was very disappointed and he was advising us to be careful.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
The such thing is only an invitation to hold that token, not a prohibition. After receiving a payment in the form of a token by a campaign, the decision to sell or not is fully our right. It can't be stopped by the developer though and cannot be forced. Price fall or rise up not entirely the influence of the bounty hunter.
First of all, the price dump part due to bounty hunters is usually not so large. The bounty funds are usually very small, a couple of percent of the total token distribution at most. Could bounty hunters still drive the price down? Sure, for example if all bounty hunters went to the exchange to swap their tokens in a couple of days.
There is an elegant solution to this problem, where the developers decide to release the bounty rewards in stages, so the impact on the market is minimized.
A much bigger problems is when big token holders (for example, team members of questionable projects or altcoins) decide to dump their coins during an exit scam. This effectively annihilates the token. No need to worry though if the project is solid and has some solid foundation behind.
There is an elegant solution to this problem, where the developers decide to release the bounty rewards in stages, so the impact on the market is minimized.
A much bigger problems is when big token holders (for example, team members of questionable projects or altcoins) decide to dump their coins during an exit scam. This effectively annihilates the token. No need to worry though if the project is solid and has some solid foundation behind.
Why do the teams do not pay bounty hunters not with their tokens. It would solve all the problems, because there would be no price dump. But they do not want to send hunters tokens with the real value.
Beside the fact that this is the project's team problem and shouldn't be discussed here, your suggestion is not going to solve anything.
It would be easier to lock the coins or paying bounty participant in BTC or Eth.
It would be easier to lock the coins or paying bounty participant in BTC or Eth.
Always after the bounty campaign ends, the developers of the projects talking to hunters about storing the tokens and not going to sell it so that the price does not fall down
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
When I started to think with myself a little ... I asked what would guarantee the survival of the tokens with who would participate in the bounty campaign???
I found that if they add a condition specified in the terms of the bounty campaign that the participant must have at least 20 different types of tokens got it Of the previous campaigns in the past period of not less than 6 months transactions and they must check that on address ( MEW ) so you will find that it will participate Holders only
This condition will stop too ... anyone who tries to register with
different accounts ( altact ) and end up with ways of confirming by KYC
So... am i wrong ?
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