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Topic: Amazon GC no longer available through Gyft - Alternatives? (Read 671 times)

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I know the thread is a little bit old but since It got bumped, I thought I should let everyone know that Bitrefill is selling Amazon U.S gcs (and other gift cards as well).
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Card swap @ egifter is not possible at the moment. I tried yesterday and did not see the option anywhere.. sent an email and received the following response:

Hi *,

Thanks for reaching out.

My team has informed me that the swap feature is not currently available. Unfortunately, at the moment, I do not have an ETA on timing.

yikes, i wish i revisited this thread before i went to swap for an amazon GC last night. i'd done it without problems a few times, and they still list it as a method to buy so i didn't think anything was amiss. now im stuck with a $300 home depot card. haha, i guess my garden will be lush this summer. Cheesy

I've done a few successful swaps for Amazon GC in the last couple of weeks, prior to yesterday that is..

i tested the amazon.com card thing inside the bitpay/copay wallet yesterday. it worked perfectly and was near instant. i wouldn't bother messing around with anything else myself.

thanks, i went and did this and the process was super easy. it's nice that you can do exact amounts too.

too bad they jack the fees so bad in the copay wallet though. minimum 10 sat/byte, and to use the amazon GC service you need to spend "normal or higher" fees, which was 102 sat/byte!! i haven't paid those kinds of fees since december.

no other complaints than that. i always wondered who the hell was paying these 100+ sat/byte transactions that are always in the mempool. the copay wallet is one source of bad fee estimation for sure.....
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I've done a few successful swaps for Amazon GC in the last couple of weeks, prior to yesterday that is..

i tested the amazon.com card thing inside the bitpay/copay wallet yesterday. it worked perfectly and was near instant. i wouldn't bother messing around with anything else myself.

Thank you for this reply! It worked perfectly just now.
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I've done a few successful swaps for Amazon GC in the last couple of weeks, prior to yesterday that is..

i tested the amazon.com card thing inside the bitpay/copay wallet yesterday. it worked perfectly and was near instant. i wouldn't bother messing around with anything else myself.
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Card swap @ egifter is not possible at the moment. I tried yesterday and did not see the option anywhere.. sent an email and received the following response:

Hi *,

Thanks for reaching out.

My team has informed me that the swap feature is not currently available. Unfortunately, at the moment, I do not have an ETA on timing.

We appreciate your patronage and the opportunity to serve you -- and we're sorry for the inconvenience!

Best regards,

*


I've done a few successful swaps for Amazon GC in the last couple of weeks, prior to yesterday that is..
legendary
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however, it seems like eGifter left a loophole (in the US only). they say you can still buy amazon gift cards using "an 'eGifter swap' performed by a gift recipient." here's how that works:

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When you receive a gift card on eGifter as a gift from someone else, you can exchange the gift card brand they sent you for another gift card brand, including Amazon.com. To do this, click the “Exchange Gift” button on the gift before you claim it. Upon verifying that you want to exchange the brand you received, you will have an eGifter Swap Card that you can use for any gift card of the same value available on eGifter.

The only current limitation for using an eGifter Swap Card is if you select Amazon.com.  In this case, the Amazon.com card cannot exceed the value of the eGifter Swap card. Additionally, if you combine other brand gift cards with Amazon.com in your eGifter shopping cart, you will only be able to use the following payment methods at checkout:

i haven't tried it, but it looks like you can still buy most gift cards with bitcoin, then "gift it to yourself" (different account) and then swap it. my friend swears by eGifter and has put thousands through it, so i might try this out next time i need one.

looks like a pretty convoluted hack but i guess it doesn't matter if they piss amazon off any more.

i suppose amazon could come back with an even more restrictive policy that cuts off corporate/retail entities from gift cards entirely. right now they're still allowed to buy gift cards from amazon as
i can't quite figure the ins and outs of that though. are you buying a gift card through them bought by someone from outside the site? that's a no for me.

nope. you buy a gift card for someone and he receives it in his email or whatever. then he needs to go to eGifter to claim it. instead of claiming the gift card and revealing the code, he clicks on the "exchange gift" button and swaps it out. it only works for eGifter-issued cards. so it seems like you can make two accounts, buy a gift card for "someone else" and swap it that way. i can't confirm it works though.

more info here: https://support.egifter.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002604633-Questions-about-Amazon-com-Answers-here-
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Fortunately, the justice is not dumb as we can think.

It's not like if, for example, I steal a bike and I call you saying I have a stolen bike to sell if you're interested. And you tell me, okay, you buy it knowing the bike was stolen. In this case, it's considered as "Possession of stolen goods" because you knew it was stolen.

Buying from Purse, or let's say Amazon and similar marketplaces, a product and some weeks after you learn the product was stolen, then
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If the individual did not know the goods were stolen, then the goods are returned to the owner and the individual is not prosecuted.
The difficulty can be to be able to prove you didn't know, but showing your account activity from Purse website is enough

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I can't buy anything off Gyft whether it be with a card, paypal, or Bitcoin. EVEN BITCOIN they give an error that says they can't process my transaction because of my account or something. Like, how ridiculous is that. The top Bitcoin to gift card exchange and they can't even accept Bitcoin. Ridiculous website in my opinion.
Maybe it's because your account settings?
I Remember that Gyft only serve US based customer
https://support.gyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/206572265-Do-you-support-international-gift-card-sales-or-redeeming-
Try to change your account to US and try again, if it still persist try contact their support (or find another website Roll Eyes )
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I can't buy anything off Gyft whether it be with a card, paypal, or Bitcoin. EVEN BITCOIN they give an error that says they can't process my transaction because of my account or something. Like, how ridiculous is that. The top Bitcoin to gift card exchange and they can't even accept Bitcoin. Ridiculous website in my opinion.
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I wonder why they stopped - perhaps the resellers were somehow buying for a discount and selling at full price?

i haven't been able to find an explanation anywhere. and the fact that it's not global makes little sense. the only likely reason must be fraud, but then that must be a universal problem and there are markets much bigger than canada that are still open to this.

i'd be very interested to know how many amazon US cards are sold versus amazon.es or whatever.
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this has nothing to do with bitcoin or any individual company, a short while back amazon US and canada completely stopped third party companies selling gift cards. doesn't matter if it's for dollars or bitcoin. for americans they have to buy from private sellers or amazon.



I wonder why they stopped - perhaps the resellers were somehow buying for a discount and selling at full price?
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This is the Copay wallet? I'll check that out. Although now that I know US/Canada is cut off from gift card resellers but the rest of the world isn't, I hope they don't send me codes that can't be used in the US.

yep.

they're pretty quick to shut things down, their cards were gone and everyone was told ASAP, so i'd be surprised if they'd leave it in there. i'd certainly email them before buying anything though.
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Last night, I went to buy some Amazon gift cards with BTC on Gyft. They weren't available. I figured it was a temporary thing, an API issue or something, because that's happened before. But I emailed them about it and they responded, "Amazon is no longer available through Gyft." Undecided

Are there any similar alternatives? I really liked having a corporate reseller because you could always trust that their cards weren't fraudulent.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.

Doesn't purse have their up to $10k compensation for fraud? If you're buying small amounts, I don't think that it's a problem.

It's not the money I care about. It's the fact that I put a lot of volume through my Amazon account, a lot of which comes from gift cards. My concern is about my Amazon account being associated with multiple frauds over time and having it closed (or worse).

I haven't used neither, but Bitpay has an option to buy amazon gift cards in their wallet that you can specify how much you want to buy. And bitpay is a pretty big company, so I'd say you can trust them with this.

This is the Copay wallet? I'll check that out. Although now that I know US/Canada is cut off from gift card resellers but the rest of the world isn't, I hope they don't send me codes that can't be used in the US.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.

With Purse? How?
If you're talking about the possibility to get a buyer using a stolen card, then, I am not going to say it's impossible, but it's very hard now. They link your IP to a card, if you try to use a card you usually don't need, they will make the life hard for you. So hard that even if you're the legit owner of the card they won't let you use it easily. Not even talking about using a prepaid VVC

The problem is Amazon gift cards which later turn out to be fraudulently obtained. And just general hassle from scammers on Purse. Maybe they've cleaned up the site, but there's been lots of discussion on this over the years:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4zczow/my_experience_with_purseio/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4duiai/why_i_am_no_longer_using_purseio/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2po40d/since_my_house_is_being_searched_right_now_small/

I'm happy to pay full price with no premium if it means the gift cards are 100% clean. As timerland points out:

Avoid purse entirely because pretty much the only reason why people would be able to pay such high rates for BTC is because their AGC is unclean, and since you're the one that the item is getting shipped to, you're the one that'll land in trouble.
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With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.

With Purse? How?
If you're talking about the possibility to get a buyer using a stolen card, then, I am not going to say it's impossible, but it's very hard now. They link your IP to a card, if you try to use a card you usually don't need, they will make the life hard for you. So hard that even if you're the legit owner of the card they won't let you use it easily. Not even talking about using a prepaid VVC
legendary
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Any reason provided for why they shut down? Was it really because of Amazon's ban on third party sellers? I used Gyft I think around a year ago and the process was probably the smoothest I've used for a gift card purchase using bitcoin. Sad to see them let go of AGC purchases, though.

i can't find a reason myself. and it only applies to amazon america and canada. you can buy gift cards for other branches of amazon just fine.

the amazon US gift card option is still in the copay wallet and there's no message about it being stopped.
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Last night, I went to buy some Amazon gift cards with BTC on Gyft. They weren't available. I figured it was a temporary thing, an API issue or something, because that's happened before. But I emailed them about it and they responded, "Amazon is no longer available through Gyft." Undecided

Are there any similar alternatives? I really liked having a corporate reseller because you could always trust that their cards weren't fraudulent.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.

Any reason provided for why they shut down? Was it really because of Amazon's ban on third party sellers? I used Gyft I think around a year ago and the process was probably the smoothest I've used for a gift card purchase using bitcoin. Sad to see them let go of AGC purchases, though.

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When you receive a gift card on eGifter as a gift from someone else, you can exchange the gift card brand they sent you for another gift card brand, including Amazon.com. To do this, click the “Exchange Gift” button on the gift before you claim it. Upon verifying that you want to exchange the brand you received, you will have an eGifter Swap Card that you can use for any gift card of the same value available on eGifter.

The only current limitation for using an eGifter Swap Card is if you select Amazon.com.  In this case, the Amazon.com card cannot exceed the value of the eGifter Swap card. Additionally, if you combine other brand gift cards with Amazon.com in your eGifter shopping cart, you will only be able to use the following payment methods at checkout:

That's a lot of hassle. But it does seem like it may work based on their description.

Avoid purse entirely because pretty much the only reason why people would be able to pay such high rates for BTC is because their AGC is unclean, and since you're the one that the item is getting shipped to, you're the one that'll land in trouble.

If Amazon did have a ban of third party sellers then the only way you can get AGC with BTC would be private sales, am i right? Does bitpay still work for purchasing AGC?
legendary
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however, it seems like eGifter left a loophole (in the US only). they say you can still buy amazon gift cards using "an 'eGifter swap' performed by a gift recipient." here's how that works:

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When you receive a gift card on eGifter as a gift from someone else, you can exchange the gift card brand they sent you for another gift card brand, including Amazon.com. To do this, click the “Exchange Gift” button on the gift before you claim it. Upon verifying that you want to exchange the brand you received, you will have an eGifter Swap Card that you can use for any gift card of the same value available on eGifter.

The only current limitation for using an eGifter Swap Card is if you select Amazon.com.  In this case, the Amazon.com card cannot exceed the value of the eGifter Swap card. Additionally, if you combine other brand gift cards with Amazon.com in your eGifter shopping cart, you will only be able to use the following payment methods at checkout:

i haven't tried it, but it looks like you can still buy most gift cards with bitcoin, then "gift it to yourself" (different account) and then swap it. my friend swears by eGifter and has put thousands through it, so i might try this out next time i need one.

looks like a pretty convoluted hack but i guess it doesn't matter if they piss amazon off any more.

i can't quite figure the ins and outs of that though. are you buying a gift card through them bought by someone from outside the site? that's a no for me.
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Last night, I went to buy some Amazon gift cards with BTC on Gyft. They weren't available. I figured it was a temporary thing, an API issue or something, because that's happened before. But I emailed them about it and they responded, "Amazon is no longer available through Gyft." Undecided

Are there any similar alternatives? I really liked having a corporate reseller because you could always trust that their cards weren't fraudulent.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.

Doesn't purse have their up to $10k compensation for fraud? If you're buying small amounts, I don't think that it's a problem.

Otherwise I think you would have to go with eGifter, or Bitpay if you want a guaranteed clean card. I haven't used neither, but Bitpay has an option to buy amazon gift cards in their wallet that you can specify how much you want to buy. And bitpay is a pretty big company, so I'd say you can trust them with this.

If you want to have better rates and you're able to take on some risks, either seek out offers on localbitcoins as an advertiser or post a WTB thread on forum. Both will get you at least 0-10% premium for your bitcoins, but there is a risk that these cards are fraudulent even though they shouldn't be if you deal with reputable parties.
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You can try play asia, they are mainly selling games and figurines from Japan (õwõ),  but they also have a wide selection of digital codes.
https://www.play-asia.com/search/Amazon
Bitcoin payment accepted via Bitpay as their processor Smiley
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this has nothing to do with bitcoin or any individual company, a short while back amazon US and canada completely stopped third party companies selling gift cards. doesn't matter if it's for dollars or bitcoin. for americans they have to buy from private sellers or amazon.

amazon elsewhere for some reason still allows third party sales.

https://esellercafe.com/amazon-restricts-gift-card-purchases-from-gift-card-malls/

damn it. i was about to post that i couldn't find anything to corroborate this, and how it's weird that no one's talking about it.

but then i went on eGifter. they shut down amazon too! Cry

however, it seems like eGifter left a loophole (in the US only). they say you can still buy amazon gift cards using "an 'eGifter swap' performed by a gift recipient." here's how that works:

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When you receive a gift card on eGifter as a gift from someone else, you can exchange the gift card brand they sent you for another gift card brand, including Amazon.com. To do this, click the “Exchange Gift” button on the gift before you claim it. Upon verifying that you want to exchange the brand you received, you will have an eGifter Swap Card that you can use for any gift card of the same value available on eGifter.

The only current limitation for using an eGifter Swap Card is if you select Amazon.com.  In this case, the Amazon.com card cannot exceed the value of the eGifter Swap card. Additionally, if you combine other brand gift cards with Amazon.com in your eGifter shopping cart, you will only be able to use the following payment methods at checkout:

i haven't tried it, but it looks like you can still buy most gift cards with bitcoin, then "gift it to yourself" (different account) and then swap it. my friend swears by eGifter and has put thousands through it, so i might try this out next time i need one.
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The Currency Exchange section of the forum in Marketplace is a good place to look for conversions to almost anything from BTC or other crypto. Just open a thread there, make an exchange, and you're done. Make sure you use escrow when you purchase anything on the forum that you're not willing to lose, a brief list of escrowers can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778.

I've had good experiences ordering Steam GCs totalling a few hundred dollars from SteamGamesBTC.com, and they also seem to sell Amazon GCs (albeit only $10 cards, and at a premium- $11.90). If you want to go this route, this is the link to the listing: http://steamgamesbtc.com/index.php?page=item&id=12.

Egifter's also a good option; I've ordered about $200 in Amazon GCs from them and they were all delivered in a timely fashion. Paxful may also be a viable option, but I haven't tried using them yet.
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this has nothing to do with bitcoin or any individual company, a short while back amazon US and canada completely stopped third party companies selling gift cards. doesn't matter if it's for dollars or bitcoin. for americans they have to buy from private sellers or amazon.

amazon elsewhere for some reason still allows third party sales.

https://esellercafe.com/amazon-restricts-gift-card-purchases-from-gift-card-malls/
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Last night, I went to buy some Amazon gift cards with BTC on Gyft. They weren't available. I figured it was a temporary thing, an API issue or something, because that's happened before. But I emailed them about it and they responded, "Amazon is no longer available through Gyft." Undecided

Are there any similar alternatives? I really liked having a corporate reseller because you could always trust that their cards weren't fraudulent.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.
You can try using egifter like omega suggested. I have bought a couple of cards before. Just had an issue once where there was an error with payment. The support team resolved my issue quickly and i was quite happy with their service. You could give it a go.
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I found a thread where I think you can buy amazon gift card or coins or directly to your email, but this is not the same as gyft or a website unlike the other website they mention here in your thread, but he is member of this forum so you can deal with him directly.

Check his thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amazon-gift-card-balance-for-bitcoin-amazon-coins-playstation-xbox-1789747

I hope that you can use escrow if you are deal a huge amount of bitcoin to him.
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I have to say that this reasoning by Amazon is stupid. They closed the account because the user tried to pay with invalid cards. Last I checked you can add card balance to your Amazon account and it's being validated right there. If the card is invalid, the code gets rejected and that's it. Your code can get rejected for instance because of a typo or when you're trying to reuse an old code by mistake. Things like that happen and I have never heard of anyone's account being blocked for that reason.
If the code got accepted it means it was legit and the user could use it to pay for things. There's even a way to check the validity and balance of a code without adding it to the balance.
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Amazon rejects Gyft since a long time. The issue has been discussed long time ago. Here a complain from a user one year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/67j6ih/amazon_is_rejecting_gyftcom_gift_card_codes/

I've used them for ~ 4 years and bought hundreds of gift cards without a problem.

In that thread, Amazon mentions multiple invalid gift cards. It's not clear where the prior cards were bought from. There's no way they closed his account over one $125 card. We don't know their fraud detection methods; it may have been automatic when he redeemed another gift card regardless. It almost looks like they swiped the money to recoup prior losses from fraud.

It's hard to get Amazon gift cards these days (at least without break any amazon rules) due to rules such as restrict selling AGC from specific country outside US.

I wonder why Gyft dropped them. eGifter is US-only apparently. I'm in the US so that works for me.
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I never tried them myself so I couldn't tell you from a personal experience but I definitely saw other people recommending the service. I have traded with two members[1][2] in the last few months with Amazon gift cards/balance, I suggest contacting them.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/milkz-408677 (I made a WTB thread but I believe he have his own thread too)
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amazon-gift-card-balance-for-bitcoin-amazon-coins-playstation-xbox-1789747
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Amazon rejects Gyft since a long time. The issue has been discussed long time ago. Here a complain from a user one year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/67j6ih/amazon_is_rejecting_gyftcom_gift_card_codes/
Paxfon still the only avaiale option to trade those cards via bitcoin.
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You can try eGifter: https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/amazon (U.S cards only)

Thanks. I'm in the US so I'll check them out. Any idea how reputable they are, or how long they've been around?

I would still recommend going with other individuals as the rates would be lower. I have been scammed on Paxful once personally so I don't suggest it but trading here on the forums should be less risky.

I used to buy a good deal of Starbucks cards on the forums a couple years back. A lot of them ended up being carded. I wasn't too concerned then, but I'm more paranoid about my Amazon account because it's linked to my identity and physical address. Maybe if I found a very reputable trader on here who loads gift cards himself, but dealing with randoms in the marketplace sounds risky. Stuff like this scares the crap out of me: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2po40d/since_my_house_is_being_searched_right_now_small/
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You can try eGifter: https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/amazon (U.S cards only)

I would still recommend going with other individuals as the rates would be lower. I have been scammed on Paxful once personally so I don't suggest it but trading here on the forums should be less risky.
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Last night, I went to buy some Amazon gift cards with BTC on Gyft. They weren't available. I figured it was a temporary thing, an API issue or something, because that's happened before. But I emailed them about it and they responded, "Amazon is no longer available through Gyft." Undecided

Are there any similar alternatives? I really liked having a corporate reseller because you could always trust that their cards weren't fraudulent.

With P2P or things like Purse, fraud is really common, so I'm looking for a reputable reseller like Gyft.
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