Topic: AMD Vega 56 64 Frontier Mining Hashrate & Setup ? 3 Month ROI or less? (Read 1156 times)

Anyone ever make progress on these here besides geekmark

Thanks for the info but I can't even imagine why you would use a Vega for ETH. You must like just making less money. Only as a last resort would I mine ETH with the Vega.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2549085.140
FE info starts on pg 8

i have them mining ETH at 46+MH/s stable details at the link above

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Vegas are the supercars of GPUs, as long as telemetry, fuel and tyres are good you are faster than anything else around

mine are running care free at top speed because i build UP TO 6 VEGA rigs and are very careful with ALL the deatails (outlined in the thread link above)
if you are a novice messy shortcut taking impatient low elec expecting miner do not use VEGAS, they are not for you

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I have decided to only pay cash on delivery.

There's a good chance you're either being scammed or misled. No one is selling the cards you've listed for those prices right now anywhere. All GPUs come from the same factories in China and there's just not enough of them, most are bought by large farms pretty much straight from the factory and whatever crumbs are left go for very high prices to the retail. Just be careful and don't pay anyone in advance.

As of now, I believe I am getting new cards. But again, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

He is talking prices for second hand I'm fairly sure.  Its possible, I have seen prices that low but not many of them, maybe he just knows a repair shop or something.     The alternative is they arent fully tested which is risky.


Skunk is very easy to mine and tune for, likes a higher core speed and is ideal for anyone who is mining and actually also using the card in a system.  Just needs core temp below 70c generally

Vegas are not just good a cryptonight algo coins xmr, etn, sumokoin but also good at Ethereum mining.  Earlier Vegas weren't appealing enough cause of the power consumption but at 130w-150w and 2k hashrate on cryptonight and 43-44 on ETH makes them really great cards for mining.  Vegas are getting sold for $800+.  Although, people buying them at these prices are "Nonem"

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply!
I got a source to buy from. But can't count my chickens before they hatch. I'll update if I actually buy and build a rig. Currently searching the internet for guides.

that's insanely cheap.  If you're talking USD then I highly doubt those prices are true.

and equihash coins - ZCL, ZEC, ZEN, BTG, HUSH, KMD.
And cryptonight coins - XMR and ETN being the most prevalent.
And ethereum  coins - PIRL, ELLA, ETH, ETC, MUSIC, UBIQ, EXP. Not to mention the dual mining for SIA, DECRED, etc.

You can also mine the NeoScrypt, Pascal, and Skunkhash based coins as well.

Its not as limited as one may think. and the equihash are quite profitable right now. But I do agree NVidia > AMD for options/flexibility. I run a mix of 50/50 right now but that is due to card availability.

What is the point of buying AMD cards? You are quite limited, ETH and Monero mining mostly.

I'd love to know where you can find those at those prices and actually available....if you are looking at nextwarehouse or asoola you'll get them in about 6 months if they even come.

RX480/580 is basically the same card but the 480 does better on power stock. If you can get an 8gb rx480 for $235 buy every one available...thats at/below msrp. RX570 has 4 less compute nodes (32 vs 36) but is the same polaris chipset as the 48/580 so its definately worth less than the others, but still viable at the price you posted.

1070 also a great card, can mine more than the nvidias and I find is more stable in windows after final 10 update than the radeons. Also a spectacular price at $285.

R9 295X2 is similar to the RX580, both of which are closer to 1060's, not 1070s.

Personally Id buy up all the 1070s first, then if I had money left over all the 480s. but unless you are buying used from somone that doesnt know what ebay is...I dont think those prices are real in todays market.

Cant speak on the VEGAs but I always build a triangle matrix when selecting cards that has cost, power and hashrate...lets just say the vega never even makes it on the top 10 list because its cost and power always lopside the triangle. CAST XMR will allow it to run 2kh/s for XMR/ETN which will help make the Vega great, but thats limited to really two main coins, only one of which is really profitable right now.

Okay people,
I am getting
VEGA 64 8GB for 470$
RX 480 8GB for 235$
RX 580 8GB for 395$
RX 570 8GB for 315$
GTX 1070 8GB for 285$
R9 295X2 OC 8GB for 710$

Which is a better buy?
Any recommendation?

Amazing to see how stupid these noobs are by paying $900 for a vega.

This Geek Mark already did all the work for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUrt7DgSiDM

Please share your wisdom obiwan, I am desperate

setup a single FE rig and its giving me headaches

after some complex driver voodoo that I cant repeat the FE is running at 2050H/s

hoping to put 6 total on this rig and its looking like a tall mountain

Can anyone shoot me to a guide for getting FE's setup on Ubuntu?  At this point I'm ok with my 4 FE's doing 1500-1600 reliably in one rig instead of 3 rigs like I'm running now to get full 2100

I...
install ubuntu 16.04 LTS
install blockchain drivers
install AMDSDK
fix grub
fix groups
fix symbolic link

compile xmr
and it doesn't find any AMD devices.

If I do lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' I get 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Vega 10 [Radeon Vega Frontier Edition]

If swap the FE out for a 580 or similar it recognizes and hashes just fine.

What am I missing?!?!?!?!

1 year waranty damn thats bad, glad i only got one

And also this card has only 1yr warranty.

Because they might find out from his post and close that loophole....

why not just share with everyone how you are able to bypass newegg by having multiple accounts

ahh wow thats great thanks sir

*edit - pm'd

Have 3 56 in one rig, and the 4th in a nvidia rig. Best tip, go through this how to. Then its running 
http://vega.miningguides.com/

hmm how do you have multiple newegg accounts lol

i tried that but the same address for shipping the found me out pretty easy , even with different cards since name was the same on cards

I'm fighting so hard not to buy a bunch of them. Greed is pushing me towards logging into all my newegg accounts and buying 1 on each of them. I just need to hit the pause button for now.

I grabbed one to play with I already have two regular vegas and I love them

That goes back to unreasonable amount of time spent to make a broken shit product work.....

Cancer.

Glad I decided NOT to buy that garbage.

Hey Vosk, love the videos, Tails No.1 fan here, hope she is feeling good now!

I'm running an almost 'trio' rig (2 cards on board 1 on riser, Z270P-D3) 2x Vega 56 and 1x Vega 64 I managed to pick up for less than $500 each. They have been super profitable for me at this price and already nearing ROI. I just followed the steps on this site and make sure to keep the power limit down, they're all over 1900H/s, running mid 50s temps and around 2000-2200 rpm fan speed so not loud like a lot of people say. I havn't messed around with BIOS flashing or power table changes. I thin kI might be able to drop power consumption a bit but around 600w for 5750H/s is fine for me.

http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/

Good luck with your setup and I look forward to the video on them! By the way you should get CryptoChick in more videos as well as Tails, we like to see the VoskCoin family together

To get them VEGAs stable you need to do some scripting. My VEGAs run at full speed for a few hours then suddenly they just stop. No errors or hang, they just simply stop mining using Cast XMR or XMR-STAK. Either use the "JJ restart script" you can find on reddit/google or write your own script. I initially tried the devcon.exe and and JJ restart script but found it doesn't work for me. I just wrote a script that reboots my computer every hour. 2 lines of code did it and my VEGA rig is now running stable.

The 2 lines of code were:

You're right on for sure. And I'll be the first to admit I did it as a speculative play hoping for further optimization, which may or may not happen. And I may be just trying to justify a bad rookie mining purchase to make myself feel better In that case at least I get to look at them... they are beautiful cards at least 

Definitely more risky, since it's now at 1080ti price point with only one algo that cranks out 1080ti profits. But push comes to shove, is it dumb to get a 6-mo ROI card?

Depends on the algo. Most on Cryptonight at 2k h/s with Blockchain drivers? 2. Even then it required a very specific and weird approach to get it working, very finicky. With the adrenalin drivers, 3 (all I have at this point, didn't want to risk more than that  ) on ETH. I think it would be possible to have a full FE rig on ETH with adrenalin drivers.

Can't wait for your next vid! So excited to see some stats on the Vegas.

By the way: amazingly even here in Thailand  the more popular cards like 470s, etc are impossible to get. Normally you can buy anything - ANYTHING-  in Bangkok. Just not graphics card, lol.

Used to own a FE , my setting are 1400 core, 1100 mem, 850mv, target temp 65. 2050h/s. I was never able to mix FE in with Vega 56/64s.

Sold all my vegas because they take an unreasonable amount of effort and maintenance. Literally 75% of my time spent on 2 rigs lol.

I'm going full 1080ti/1070ti and selling my remaining polaris cards too, have too few of them compared to Nvidia and since I switch coins daily, nvidia cards are better price perf for me than polaris.

Do you have any frontier vega's and if so what are your settings?

help us find more 570s

lol my goal w/ them is figure them out or go insane  I'm worried it'll be a massive time investment to MAYBE get them working together/ stable . .


That point on the furies isn't very reassuring lol xD

how many have you gotten working together stable on one rig?

I guess at the end of the day a 2 card vega rig wouldnt be the worst thing . .but not what I want lol xD

The mid range cards are probably doing better when including cost of the card and cost of elec.   The reasonably best ETH MH I saw for Vega was 47 but I imagine others have got higher?

Vega doesnt have to run hot if it undervolts well, that varys but alot can go much lower then anything stock indicates initially.   XMR appears the most profitable but ETH is very bullish crypto for a while now.

For the current price of a single Vega card one could get almost 3x rx 570, and that's 80+ MH/s with simple quiet cards. I mean, even two rx570/580 cards beat a single Vega card in ETH by a lot. I don't know, if Vega's were selling for the originally quoted MSRP's ($399 or something for RX 56?) then they would be alright. Paying $750 for that hot and loud beast though.. that's kinda crazy. Vosk has a youtube channel so he might have an excuse for it to be some sort of business expense (new content, more views and subscribers etc, plus the fun/experience from playing with new hardware), but for regular miners like myself Vega is not a very practical investment. It's really good on cryptonight, and, well, mediocre on everything else (considering the price, power consumption and all the quirks associated with running it at full speed).

I've had a few Furies and we also hoped that there'll be new miners optimized for HBM.. never happened. Maybe it will this time, we'll see.

I've got multiple FE's, can confirm the problem mentioned above. Driver support is bad. Devcon restarting the FE's doesn't work on the Blockchain drivers, works fine on the new Adrenalin driver. The "compute" option on the new Adrenalin drivers improves ETH, but not Cryptonight. Hoping for a future addition by AMD. Also, no wattman overclocking for these guys, have to use Overdriven. Like you, thought with the additional 8GB of HBM2 they might be an interesting mining play if the drivers catch up to speed. Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s. Several other algos they are okay at as well. Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

Well, worst case scenario is that you'll have to run 1 or 2 cards per rig. Far from optimal, but might work with cheap rigs for the time being, until someone figures out how to do the disable/enable thing in the device manager for the FE cards connected with risers.

Not a fan of masternodes in general, so don't really have any thoughts. Intense is quite profitable to mine with AMD cards right now, probably even more so than ETN, and the coin itself seems ok, so I figured it's a decent sig campaign to participate in.

Sold a rig to fund a new vega rig lol . . fingers crossed it works out xD

///side note I noticed you switched from altcom to intensecoin - what are your thoughts on altcom masternodes?

Wait, did you already buy it? I didn't realize from your post that you've already placed the order. If that's the case then let us know how it goes. Maybe you'll figure out how to run multiple FE cards at max speed in one rig. Did you buy one or more than one of those?

sounds like im in for a nightmare lol

It's not like nvidia cards where you've got loads of (shit)coins you can mine. Vega is a one trick pony that only does cryptonight well, and everything else is mediocre at best. It's a hot and very loud piece of gear, and quite finicky to run at max speed. If cryptonight coins go down then ROI might be well over a year.
 
I've also read a few posts recently from people not being able to run these (Frontier Edition) Vega cards at full speed when you've got more than 1 card in the rig. When it's just a single card then it does ~ 2 KH/s just fine, but as soon as another Vega card is added to the system, their hashrate goes down and the usual tricks that work for Vega 56/64 don't work here. Not sure whether there are workarounds for this problem yet.

Hey everyone, we all know the vega's are crazy profitable on cryptonight whether its the 56 or 64 and their prices have skyrocketed because of that. . if you can even find one

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105073&cm_re=vega-_-14-105-073-_-Product


http://amzn.to/2mc42Xo Available on Amazon



My main question is who's mining with the frontiers w/ what settings and you have to be getting at least the numbers of the 64 vega which a card that at least looks cooler imo xD

At the current price of even 1000 per GPU per whattomine + factoring a minimal held coin value increase per crypto you would/could still ROI in 3 months (mainly looking at cards and if you pay $750 definitely the whole rig under 3 months per the calculation)



Pretty interesting time in crypto to say the least lol, so for those who are using these to mine could you shed some light how you maximize their performance?

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