Topic: America, It's Over! Yale Students Sign Petition To Repeal First Amendment (Read 757 times)
December 21, 2015, 01:57:39 PM
My little sister graduated from Yale in the mid-2000's, she came out with a very warped view of the world so it doesn't surprise me one bit to see things like this coming out of that institution.
December 21, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
It looks bad for the US if members of future elite are so ignorant and stupid.
i dont think these people will make it far on the path to becoming the 'elite' of the future being so sheltered and all. these kids arent ready for the real world. December 21, 2015, 07:55:34 AM
It looks bad for the US if members of future elite are so ignorant and stupid.
It looks bad for the whole world, because few people live beyond the age of 100, even in peaceful times and places.
December 21, 2015, 06:11:28 AM
It looks bad for the US if members of future elite are so ignorant and stupid.
December 21, 2015, 01:19:16 AM
I think Yale students would probably prefer Sharia law over the constitution. This would keep their women so safe they don't even let the sunlight touch them. A safer space there never was.
December 20, 2015, 04:12:12 AM
This is what Affirmative action can do to the Ivy league colleges. When you put idiots having sub-60 IQ in some of the best educational institutions in the world, they will start destroying the very institutions which gave them the opportunities. I am sure that many of these idiots don't even know what is the importance of the first amendment.
December 18, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
If you check the video, there's something wrong as the faces of the people against the 1st amendment are blurred. I would have liked to see clear pictures of those people with a mention in big block letters: I'm against freedom of speech, freedom of press and freedom of religion. I thought Yale students were smarter. I'm afraid America is doomed.
Blurred to protect the easily fooled, I guess.
It´s just a test, most of these people probably have about the attention span of a common housefly. He could have gotten them to agree to anything.
December 18, 2015, 08:41:01 PM
If you check the video, there's something wrong as the faces of the people against the 1st amendment are blurred. I would have liked to see clear pictures of those people with a mention in big block letters: I'm against freedom of speech, freedom of press and freedom of religion. I thought Yale students were smarter. I'm afraid America is doomed.
December 18, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSANTRnEBgg
I'm an Amendment to Be (Simpsons)
I'm an Amendment to Be (Simpsons)
December 18, 2015, 02:03:10 PM
While the students' attitudes are wrong, they have a point.
Originally, the Amendments were necessary to keep the people lax enough so that they didn't destroy the fledgling U.S. Government before it got off the ground.
Now, with the ways that government is intruding onto peoples' rights, the people need vigilance and strength rather than laxness. Getting rid of the Amendments would make the people look for other ways to maintain their rights. They would find the Preamble.
Once they found how easy it was to maintain all their rights - right to free travel, right to not pay taxes, right to smoke all the pot they wanted, right to sue cops and win, etc. - through non-government common law, they would virtually destroy the strength of government. And we wouldn't want that, now, would we?
Keep the Amendments so that government remains strong, and the people remain weak in their rights!
Originally, the Amendments were necessary to keep the people lax enough so that they didn't destroy the fledgling U.S. Government before it got off the ground.
Now, with the ways that government is intruding onto peoples' rights, the people need vigilance and strength rather than laxness. Getting rid of the Amendments would make the people look for other ways to maintain their rights. They would find the Preamble.
Once they found how easy it was to maintain all their rights - right to free travel, right to not pay taxes, right to smoke all the pot they wanted, right to sue cops and win, etc. - through non-government common law, they would virtually destroy the strength of government. And we wouldn't want that, now, would we?
Keep the Amendments so that government remains strong, and the people remain weak in their rights!
December 18, 2015, 03:11:47 AM
From Zerohedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment
Quote
Within an hour on the Yale campus, Horowitz collected over 50 signatures from student who wanted to repeal a significant part of the Constitution.
The petition to “blow up” the First Amendment (which protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, and freedom of petition), was met with such comments as "I think this is fantastic, I absolutely agree," and "excellent," or "I love it."
And as DailyCaller noted, one female student ironically agreed with Horowitz when he suggested, "I think the Constitution should be one big safe space."
The petition to “blow up” the First Amendment (which protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, and freedom of petition), was met with such comments as "I think this is fantastic, I absolutely agree," and "excellent," or "I love it."
And as DailyCaller noted, one female student ironically agreed with Horowitz when he suggested, "I think the Constitution should be one big safe space."
Traitors
December 18, 2015, 02:35:05 AM
People misunderstand the Amendments. An Amendment acts a bit like the Uniform Commercial Code. Here is what I mean.
The UCC is a set of legal documents regarding things like money and transactions and contracts and the like. The UCC doesn't have any power of its own. It takes all of its power from laws and court cases. The reason we have the UCC is, since the court cases and laws clearly express what the UCC says, the UCC is like a summary of those laws that makes it a lot easier to implement what the laws and court cases would have implemented anyway.
To say it shorter, The UCC is a shortened version of the laws and court cases. You don't need it. You could get the same results by using the laws and court cases. But it is easier to simply use the UCC that is an accurate representaition of the laws and court cases.
The Amendments are similar. For example, the right to privacy of the 4th Amendment would still exist without the 4th Amendment. Why? Because the Preamble to the Constitution made the setting up of the Constitution to be a benefit for the people. When government exposes private things of the people, it harms the people. This is opposite of being the benefit that the Constitution and government were set up for in the first place. It's in the Preamble.
So, why do we have the 4th Amendment? We have it because it is a lot easier to simply focus on the 4th for the things of privacy that we need. But if the 4th Amendment were gone, we still could claim privacy based on the fact that exposure by government is harming us individually, and that is the opposite of what the government was set up for. It's in the Preamble.
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The problem with the Amendments is, it makes the people legally lax. People can simply say, there is an Amendment for that. If the Amendments didn't exist, the people would have to learn how to exert their rights through the Preamble, which can't be amended away. The people would get a whole lot more freedom if they learned to use their rights rather than depending on some Amendment.
Like as we could operate all the laws regarding transactions and contracts without the UCC, so we could maintain our rights without the Amendments. Personally, I believe that if we learned to use the Preamble, we could maintain our rights way better than we can by relying on the Amendments.
The UCC is a set of legal documents regarding things like money and transactions and contracts and the like. The UCC doesn't have any power of its own. It takes all of its power from laws and court cases. The reason we have the UCC is, since the court cases and laws clearly express what the UCC says, the UCC is like a summary of those laws that makes it a lot easier to implement what the laws and court cases would have implemented anyway.
To say it shorter, The UCC is a shortened version of the laws and court cases. You don't need it. You could get the same results by using the laws and court cases. But it is easier to simply use the UCC that is an accurate representaition of the laws and court cases.
The Amendments are similar. For example, the right to privacy of the 4th Amendment would still exist without the 4th Amendment. Why? Because the Preamble to the Constitution made the setting up of the Constitution to be a benefit for the people. When government exposes private things of the people, it harms the people. This is opposite of being the benefit that the Constitution and government were set up for in the first place. It's in the Preamble.
So, why do we have the 4th Amendment? We have it because it is a lot easier to simply focus on the 4th for the things of privacy that we need. But if the 4th Amendment were gone, we still could claim privacy based on the fact that exposure by government is harming us individually, and that is the opposite of what the government was set up for. It's in the Preamble.
----------
The problem with the Amendments is, it makes the people legally lax. People can simply say, there is an Amendment for that. If the Amendments didn't exist, the people would have to learn how to exert their rights through the Preamble, which can't be amended away. The people would get a whole lot more freedom if they learned to use their rights rather than depending on some Amendment.
Like as we could operate all the laws regarding transactions and contracts without the UCC, so we could maintain our rights without the Amendments. Personally, I believe that if we learned to use the Preamble, we could maintain our rights way better than we can by relying on the Amendments.
December 18, 2015, 02:14:49 AM
First Amendment to the United States Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
December 18, 2015, 02:08:45 AM
What does 'Amendment' mean? 
Stupidity has spread to Ivy League skhools. We need hope and instead we get proof of the opposite.
Stupidity has spread to Ivy League skhools. We need hope and instead we get proof of the opposite.
December 18, 2015, 02:04:01 AM
From Zerohedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment
Perhaps as interesting as the event itself is the current very distinct pattern in media coverage. As of the time of this post if you google Yale and First Amendment this story fills the main search page.
Top Results In Order Of Appearance: (Main Google Searchpage)
1) Fox News
2) Reason
3) NationalReview
4) TheBlaze
5) WashingtonExaminer
6) DailyCaller
7) Meditate.com
8 ) TheCollegeFix
Now cross reference this with the top 50 online news sites by number of viewers:
http://www.journalism.org/media-indicators/digital-top-50-online-news-entities-2015/
And we see the top online news sites by volume are
1) ABC
2) CNN
3) NBC
4) Huffington Post
5) CBS
6) USA Today
7) Buzzfeed
8 ) New York Times
Interesting that there is no overlap between these two lists.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/america-its-over-yale-students-sign-petition-repeal-first-amendment
Quote
Within an hour on the Yale campus, Horowitz collected over 50 signatures from student who wanted to repeal a significant part of the Constitution.
The petition to “blow up” the First Amendment (which protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, and freedom of petition), was met with such comments as "I think this is fantastic, I absolutely agree," and "excellent," or "I love it."
And as DailyCaller noted, one female student ironically agreed with Horowitz when he suggested, "I think the Constitution should be one big safe space."
The petition to “blow up” the First Amendment (which protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, and freedom of petition), was met with such comments as "I think this is fantastic, I absolutely agree," and "excellent," or "I love it."
And as DailyCaller noted, one female student ironically agreed with Horowitz when he suggested, "I think the Constitution should be one big safe space."
Perhaps as interesting as the event itself is the current very distinct pattern in media coverage. As of the time of this post if you google Yale and First Amendment this story fills the main search page.
Top Results In Order Of Appearance: (Main Google Searchpage)
1) Fox News
2) Reason
3) NationalReview
4) TheBlaze
5) WashingtonExaminer
6) DailyCaller
7) Meditate.com
8 ) TheCollegeFix
Now cross reference this with the top 50 online news sites by number of viewers:
http://www.journalism.org/media-indicators/digital-top-50-online-news-entities-2015/
And we see the top online news sites by volume are
1) ABC
2) CNN
3) NBC
4) Huffington Post
5) CBS
6) USA Today
7) Buzzfeed
8 ) New York Times
Interesting that there is no overlap between these two lists.
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