Analysis Christian religions and islam

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 07, 2020, 05:45:48 PM

Both Christianity and Islamic religions similarly shared the same ideology, Islamic called it Maria while that of Christian called it marry,. They all Abrahamic religion coming from a similar perspectives believing in end time too that they still waiting till today. The level of growth determines your believe to some certain things as one may exhibit change in worship and stick to what works for him, that's new converts to atheism is increasing on a daily basis.

The important difference... the one that counts... is, in Islam, Jesus is known as a great prophet. Period.

In Christianity Jesus is known as God in the form of a man.

In Islam, Jesus doesn't save anyone. Your works and your piety are what saves you.

In Christianity, works and piety are never enough. Jesus God in the form of man saves through His perfect life, and innocent suffering and death on the cross. And the seal - the proof - is that he arose from death, and later ascended, physically into Heaven. He could save us because it would take a God to make perfection out of imperfection. We can never do this ourselves.

The promise of Jesus to people is that if they believe in His works and what He did for us, and believe the promise that He will save all who ask Him to, he will save all those who so believe. In other words, Jesus God did the work for us that we can't do.

This, above, is the great foundational difference between Islam and Christianity. All the rest of the religions pales when compared with this difference.

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Both Christianity and Islamic religions similarly shared the same ideology, Islamic called it Maria while that of Christian called it marry,. They all Abrahamic religion coming from a similar perspectives believing in end time too that they still waiting till today. The level of growth determines your believe to some certain things as one may exhibit change in worship and stick to what works for him, that's new converts to atheism is increasing on a daily basis.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 28, 2020, 08:53:55 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 07:14:45 PM

The Pope lied. Cool

thats banned according to 10 amendments, he still said such an impossible thing, in order to have the corvinius dynasty feeling part of the holy roman empire and also because he knows god can change the past

When God changes the past, He does it from the beginning. This means that nobody knows that God changed the past, because all they remember is the new past.

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Based on Islam religion, Jesus is just one of the prophet send by God and in Islamic version the name we call is Eesa more sounds similar right.

So this could be the reason why both religions have similarities.

Both religion share some similarities but also differences, Islam called Jesus a prophet but Christians called Jesus the son of God.

Muslims called themselves the slaves of God but Christians called themselves the song of God too as Jesus said it.

Although they both believe in end time.

Orthodox Christians also call themselves slaves of God, furthermore "not worthy slaves of God". The whole thing looks very dull, being full of punishements. And the whole life looks like a test before the eternity. To make people more satisfied with this religion, alcohol is allowed in Orthodoxy (in Islam not).
There is a legend about Christianization of Rus. Vladimir the Great faced many problems in his land. A unified religion could solve many of them. So he had to decide, which religion to choose. As Rus laid just between the Christian and Muslim world, he had to choose between these religions. Being a big wine lover he chose the first one

People always misunderstand the word which is slave of God, I guess the real meaning of this everyone is same in this world no matter rich or poor, black or white,etc...

People who misunderstood this becomes the haters of religions and some who become extremists of the religions. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 21, 2020, 04:16:59 PM

Quote from: akram143 on July 21, 2020, 07:50:46 AM

Based on Islam religion, Jesus is just one of the prophet send by God and in Islamic version the name we call is Eesa more sounds similar right.

So this could be the reason why both religions have similarities.

Both religion share some similarities but also differences, Islam called Jesus a prophet but Christians called Jesus the son of God.

Muslims called themselves the slaves of God but Christians called themselves the song of God too as Jesus said it.

Although they both believe in end time.

Orthodox Christians also call themselves slaves of God, furthermore "not worthy slaves of God". The whole thing looks very dull, being full of punishements. And the whole life looks like a test before the eternity. To make people more satisfied with this religion, alcohol is allowed in Orthodoxy (in Islam not).
There is a legend about Christianization of Rus. Vladimir the Great faced many problems in his land. A unified religion could solve many of them. So he had to decide, which religion to choose. As Rus laid just between the Christian and Muslim world, he had to choose between these religions. Being a big wine lover he chose the first one

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There are many conflicts in our society today about religion but the most important thing in Islam is our Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said that for our Muslims, Christians are our closest friends than followers of other religions. This is how he called Christians our closest friends. There are many elements that unite us rather than creating animosity between Islam and Christians. But we place terrorists who want to crack down on us under the guise of religion. But faith in God keeps us away from these.

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Quote from: radjie on July 29, 2020, 07:49:16 AM

from the view of Islam the devil is the main enemy that is not visible but can mislead people or it can be said that the devil is the main king who can bring bad effects to humans. maybe in Christianity the view of the devil is something that can have a negative influence and must be avoided, both teachings have the same view of the devil but have different meanings. although in religion there are differences in beliefs but all of them must be accompanied by harmony with each other, because I'm sure everyone who is religious and believes in the god he worshiped will always keep away all bad things

its similar in orthdoxy, but its very different in catholic and protestant church

satan is an angel in catholicism and protestantism, he punishes those that don't belive in god.

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from the view of Islam the devil is the main enemy that is not visible but can mislead people or it can be said that the devil is the main king who can bring bad effects to humans. maybe in Christianity the view of the devil is something that can have a negative influence and must be avoided, both teachings have the same view of the devil but have different meanings. although in religion there are differences in beliefs but all of them must be accompanied by harmony with each other, because I'm sure everyone who is religious and believes in the god he worshiped will always keep away all bad things

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Quote from: electronicash on July 28, 2020, 10:36:33 PM

so a where did you get all these data that the Earth is about 7,500 years old? it probably is even older than that since they said 65 million yeas ago the dinos are walking around the earth. although we have no way of verifying all these data even when the carbon on the relics said so. its just those in the science community assumes its true and the technology works that way.

you are living in a generated world run by an inteligent imperative source code (GOD)

he has multiple religions (mental frequencies) along which you can live.

christanity
atheism
islam etc.

they have multiple facts foundating their perspective.

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so a where did you get all these data that the Earth is about 7,500 years old? it probably is even older than that since they said 65 million yeas ago the dinos are walking around the earth. although we have no way of verifying all these data even when the carbon on the relics said so. its just those in the science community assumes its true and the technology works that way.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 07:14:45 PM

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God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

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god is more than 4 dimensional, he can make things old, he can create age and past for things, and even a history for them actually

if people asked god to create for the earth a past, he was able to do it. and he did it well, because as soon as people started to turn humanist, and god ashamed for the violence and intollerance of their religions god changed the past in such a perfect way that it makes sense for the future of humans and giving them a new path to live upon.

What is that supposed to mean? Not only can God do anything, also, He does what He does.

The Bible is His record. The Earth is about 7,500 years old along with the universe. Why? Because God's record of what He did says so. Most of our current Bible translations say about 6,000. But Josephus and the Septuagint - from around the time of Jesus - say 7,500.

The point isn't what God could do or might do. The point is what He has done, is doing, and will do.

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the hungarians became europeans through the conversion of mathias corvinius to the roman catholic church after they settled in hungary,

the pope back then claimed publicly that corvinius can prove 12 generation ancestory of roman nobility,

although he was called hynadi by the hungarians (hunn) this is completely not logical, but, regarding god laws, is that god can create and change past, therefore the pope was able to do such a claim.

The Pope lied. Cool

thats banned according to 10 amendments, he still said such an impossible thing, in order to have the corvinius dynasty feeling part of the holy roman empire and also because he knows god can change the past

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 28, 2020, 07:00:32 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 06:28:35 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 28, 2020, 05:16:29 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 03:56:36 PM

God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

Cool

god is more than 4 dimensional, he can make things old, he can create age and past for things, and even a history for them actually

if people asked god to create for the earth a past, he was able to do it. and he did it well, because as soon as people started to turn humanist, and god ashamed for the violence and intollerance of their religions god changed the past in such a perfect way that it makes sense for the future of humans and giving them a new path to live upon.

What is that supposed to mean? Not only can God do anything, also, He does what He does.

The Bible is His record. The Earth is about 7,500 years old along with the universe. Why? Because God's record of what He did says so. Most of our current Bible translations say about 6,000. But Josephus and the Septuagint - from around the time of Jesus - say 7,500.

The point isn't what God could do or might do. The point is what He has done, is doing, and will do.

Cool

the hungarians became europeans through the conversion of mathias corvinius to the roman catholic church after they settled in hungary,

the pope back then claimed publicly that corvinius can prove 12 generation ancestory of roman nobility,

although he was called hynadi by the hungarians (hunn) this is completely not logical, but, regarding god laws, is that god can create and change past, therefore the pope was able to do such a claim.

The Pope lied. Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 06:28:35 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 28, 2020, 05:16:29 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 03:56:36 PM

God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

Cool

god is more than 4 dimensional, he can make things old, he can create age and past for things, and even a history for them actually

if people asked god to create for the earth a past, he was able to do it. and he did it well, because as soon as people started to turn humanist, and god ashamed for the violence and intollerance of their religions god changed the past in such a perfect way that it makes sense for the future of humans and giving them a new path to live upon.

What is that supposed to mean? Not only can God do anything, also, He does what He does.

The Bible is His record. The Earth is about 7,500 years old along with the universe. Why? Because God's record of what He did says so. Most of our current Bible translations say about 6,000. But Josephus and the Septuagint - from around the time of Jesus - say 7,500.

The point isn't what God could do or might do. The point is what He has done, is doing, and will do.

Cool

the hungarians became europeans through the conversion of mathias corvinius to the roman catholic church after they settled in hungary,

the pope back then claimed publicly that corvinius can prove 12 generation ancestory of roman nobility,

although he was called hynadi by the hungarians (hunn) this is completely not logical, but, regarding god laws, is that god can create and change past, therefore the pope was able to do such a claim.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 28, 2020, 05:16:29 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 03:56:36 PM

God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

Cool

god is more than 4 dimensional, he can make things old, he can create age and past for things, and even a history for them actually

if people asked god to create for the earth a past, he was able to do it. and he did it well, because as soon as people started to turn humanist, and god ashamed for the violence and intollerance of their religions god changed the past in such a perfect way that it makes sense for the future of humans and giving them a new path to live upon.

What is that supposed to mean? Not only can God do anything, also, He does what He does.

The Bible is His record. The Earth is about 7,500 years old along with the universe. Why? Because God's record of what He did says so. Most of our current Bible translations say about 6,000. But Josephus and the Septuagint - from around the time of Jesus - say 7,500.

The point isn't what God could do or might do. The point is what He has done, is doing, and will do.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 03:56:36 PM

God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

Cool

god is more than 4 dimensional, he can make things old, he can create age and past for things, and even a history for them actually

if people asked god to create for the earth a past, he was able to do it. and he did it well, because as soon as people started to turn humanist, and god ashamed for the violence and intollerance of their religions god changed the past in such a perfect way that it makes sense for the future of humans and giving them a new path to live upon.

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God has complete control. He does everything in righteousness and justice. If there is pain, it's because of evil in the world that mankind has brought on himself. But God regulates it all justly.

Deep witchcraft and wizardry have messed with the minds of people so that they think that the universe is billions of years old. God tells us in the Bible that the Earth is about 6,000 years old. (I want to make a notation about this, that the Bibles [Old Testaments] at the time of Jesus and earlier, said that the creation happened about 5,500 years before Christ... about 7,500 years ago from today.)

That's all the older the universe is. God has such power that He could create the whole thing instantly if He wanted to. So consider. He is aware of you, and your position and doings in life.

Cool

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Witchery is never legal in Christian orthodoxy, Christianity condemns it totally.
Christian and Islam believes that there's God above whom see's and knows all their innermost secrets.
The only problem the both religion has, is their believe. Christianity do believe in the Trinity ''God the father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. No one comes onto the father accept through Jesus Christ.
While the Islam only believes that Mohammed is the true prophet of God. Killing the infidel will automatically give you ticket to heaven with 7 virgins

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Islam and Christianity have a relationship of tradition and history. both of these beliefs came from the Middle East and Muslims consider Christians to be experts in the Book.
and for whatever reason we must respect other religions to remain harmonious, because each religion has teachings or differences and is in accordance with each other's beliefs and aims to worship the almighty God and creator of the universe.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on July 24, 2020, 06:15:53 PM

Christianity and Islam both believe in the existence of a God who created the universe.
in Islam and Christianity believe there will be life after death. the two religions have many similarities and most importantly always respect differences is the key so that we can live in harmony in religion.

I truly agree with you here. Once you grew up, you will understand that these religions have their own beliefs and only respect is needed to live in harmony with them. Even if you have your own beliefs according to your religion, you should not shove it to someone else's face if he has different faith. I already stopped comparing religions long long time ago. Just respect everyone and you will have a peaceful and contented life.

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There are two major areas of all religions:
1. How to live a better life here in this life;
2. A way to move to a successful next-life.

Christianity has its directives for #1, just like Islam, as do all other religions.

But Christianity is the ONLY religion that says that nobody can accomplish #2. But that #2 was accomplished by God, Himself, coming to us in the form of a Man (Jesus), and taking the punishment for the mistakes and evils of the whole world (He could do it because He was God as well as man) so that anybody who believes in Him can have the successful, beneficial, next life.

All religions other than Christianity require people to do some things to boost themselves into the next life... to be good enough for success in the next life.

So we see that salvation is:
1. A gift of God to all people - Christianity;
2. A works project for everybody else... and one wherein they can never be good enough.

Btw, there are some Christian denominations that require works... that don't trust in the gift of God. And, in that same tone, ANYBODY who accepts the Gift of God through Jesus, no matter his formal religion, can be saved.

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Quote from: electronicash on July 27, 2020, 02:06:58 PM

what i do understand is that christianity is an old religion and islam is newer than the new testament being taught in the bible. none of them discusses aliens in these world while the documents of hindu and their gods are more like out of this world. if you ask indians about aliens, you'd be surprise that they are not surprise at all about the existence of aliens because of the documents they have from antiquity.

islam and christianity are ultimate and monotheistic religions, while hinduism is much more wordly,

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what i do understand is that christianity is an old religion and islam is newer than the new testament being taught in the bible. none of them discusses aliens in these world while the documents of hindu and their gods are more like out of this world. if you ask indians about aliens, you'd be surprise that they are not surprise at all about the existence of aliens because of the documents they have from antiquity.

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the most important part for me to understand for long was:

heaven and hell satan are equal parts of a single world, with satan as atorney of god

that is being believed in catholic and protestant church

while

hell and satan is being the enemy of heaven is only being believed in orthodox church and islam. with satan as fallen angel and enemy of heaven.

its also the reason why russia went to war with turkey, while france and britain often allied with turkey they didnt saw turkey as a direct religious enemy, like russia does. as long as the pope (france catholic) or holy roman empererer (britain protestants) didnt declare war on muslims,

cathilc france and protestant britain are fine with allying with them,

while orthodox christians (russia) are not happy with that.

something like this would be completely impossible in russia or turkey (orthodoxy and islam)

https://globalnews.ca/news/5488632/satanic-temple-canada/

france and uk and usa didn't banned pornography and prostitution until russia installed trump via an election hack and got uk out of eu via brexit.

they are somehow naturally neutral with satanism to a remarkable extent.

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The concept of evil entered the Abrahamic faith when they were exiled to Babylon and entered in contact with the teachings of Zarathustra from Persian people. Little know fact is Zoroastrism added this concept to Judaism, and their derivatives Christians and Muslims.

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but the extremism of some is incredibly stupid, and all man made (ie. all the Christian and Muslim denominations, even Judaism has those).

The absolute truth is not inside your little human mind, so stop that arrogance and start looking at the common teachings of all faiths for way to enrich yourself rather than hate others.

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Christianity and Islam both believe in the existence of a God who created the universe.
in Islam and Christianity believe there will be life after death. the two religions have many similarities and most importantly always respect differences is the key so that we can live in harmony in religion.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on July 20, 2020, 08:38:17 PM

~snip~

I agree that witchcraft is considered one of the greatest sins in Islam. But I would not agree with Christianity, as the Christian faith does not accept sorcery in all its manifestations and it is considered a sin for both women and men.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 21, 2020, 07:50:46 AM

Based on Islam religion, Jesus is just one of the prophet send by God and in Islamic version the name we call is Eesa more sounds similar right.

So this could be the reason why both religions have similarities.

Christians and Islam believe in Abraham too, that's another similarity.

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 20, 2020, 08:38:17 PM

while in roman catholicism the devil is some kind of punisher and judge.

There is a misconception about Catholicism and Christianity, these two are different too.

Scriptures and verses of the bible describes about the devil.

John 8:44

Quote from: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208%3A44&version=KJV

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Thief = evil

John 10:10

Quote from: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010%3A10&version=KJV

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

There is another religion that I've known lately which is called Bahai. It was said that you can be a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, a Jew and any other religion you have at the same time as long as you'll follow their teaching. It's new to me.

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Our perception to our line of thought is basically aligned to what we are used to, what we've learned over the years since our childhood. No doubt you can have a change in believe and it takes quite a greater force or orientation to change an already developed concept of believe.
You never can fully tell, until your directly involved.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 21, 2020, 07:50:46 AM

Based on Islam religion, Jesus is just one of the prophet send by God and in Islamic version the name we call is Eesa more sounds similar right.

So this could be the reason why both religions have similarities.

Both religion share some similarities but also differences, Islam called Jesus a prophet but Christians called Jesus the son of God.

Muslims called themselves the slaves of God but Christians called themselves the song of God too as Jesus said it.

Although they both believe in end time.

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Based on Islam religion, Jesus is just one of the prophet send by God and in Islamic version the name we call is Eesa more sounds similar right.

So this could be the reason why both religions have similarities.

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We worship an equivalent Creator we pray to an equivalent God he's within the same way the creator of Abraham peace be upon him the creator of Isa peace be upon him the creator of David peace be upon him. We all believe Mary mother of Jesus We respect a lady named Maryam whose name is mentioned within the Holy Quran because the only woman there's even a surah within the Holy Quran called Surah Maryam Even within the New Testament Mary's name appears more often within the Holy Qur'an than ever before We all believe the miracles of Jesus We believe that he could restore the sight of the blind by the desire of God As Christians we as Muslims believe that Jesus will return to the present earth before the Resurrection So we Muslims and Christians share an equivalent quite faith.

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Christian Orthodoxy is regarding the view on the devil and satanism, more similar to Islam than to roman Catholicism and Protestantism, which are similar regarding their view on the Devil.

the devil is in orthodoxy and islam an enemy of god, while in roman catholicism the devil is some kind of punisher and judge.

furthermore is witchery legal in christian orthodoxy but illegal in islam and traditional roman catholicism.

witchery for males is illegal in christian orthodoxy but legal in protestantism.

there is not enough literacy differentiating the christian faiths.

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