He was almost certainly a troll.
His attempt to frame another member would certainly point to that being the case. Nevertheless, it was an entertaining read.
Topic: Analysis -DT Depth 2 view- Score distribution for those that are on a trust list (Read 402 times)
March 08, 2019, 11:37:21 PM
His attempt to frame another member would certainly point to that being the case. Nevertheless, it was an entertaining read.
March 08, 2019, 01:56:45 PM
I'm fascinated with members that have unusually low trust scores.
The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.
In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.
In his brief time at the forum, he:
- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service
He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.
Press F to pay respects.
He was almost certainly a troll. The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.
In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.
In his brief time at the forum, he:
- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service
He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.
Press F to pay respects.
March 08, 2019, 01:34:12 PM
I'm fascinated with members that have unusually low trust scores.
The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.
In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.
In his brief time at the forum, he:
- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service
He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.
Press F to pay respects.
The story of magic max is an inspiring tale of how much one can accomplish with so little.
In a spattering of 14 amazing posts written on 2 separate days, he managed to rack up 16 negative trusts, never to return.
In his brief time at the forum, he:
- requested a 0.1 BTC no-collateral loan (his first post, coming out of the gate hot)
- wanted to exchange $300 in PayPal for 1 BTC, despite BTC being $330 at the time ("no escrow, no bs, you send first then i send")
- started a "free escrow service"
- framed another member of the forum using their BTC address as his own
- requested 120 BTC in another loan
- started a "Double Your Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" investor-based game
- tried to buy positive trust and trust list inclusions (managed to snag one, from a Newbie, for $3)
- bid on a Full Member account
- started his own loan service
He was a real motivated go-getter, now part of history.
Press F to pay respects.
March 07, 2019, 02:13:18 PM
Based on the high percentage of people with negative ratings, it doesn’t appear this goal has been met:
Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.
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major goal of this is to allow retaliatory distrusts and ratings to actually have some chance of mattering so that contentious ratings have an actual cost
Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.
More worrying is how they can influence/crush free speech.
March 07, 2019, 01:00:24 PM
Based on the high percentage of people with negative ratings, it doesn’t appear this goal has been met:
Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.
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major goal of this is to allow retaliatory distrusts and ratings to actually have some chance of mattering so that contentious ratings have an actual cost
Based on the fact that the majority of people have no ratings at all (within DT), it appears many people are in DT who don’t participate in the marketplace. This begs the question as to why they are able to influence the marketplace.
March 07, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
Nice tool, thanks!
I also want to give a shout out to Smartypantsmint. In only a few months here on the forum he managed to catapult all the way to the top of the distrusted list, besting even Quickseller who has spent years gaining negative trust. Really amazing!
I also want to give a shout out to Smartypantsmint. In only a few months here on the forum he managed to catapult all the way to the top of the distrusted list, besting even Quickseller who has spent years gaining negative trust. Really amazing!
March 07, 2019, 08:03:08 AM
1. Introduction.
Back in November 2018 (see Analysis - DT Depth 2 - Profile Distribution), I took some time to take a look at how DT trust looked from an overall point of view. What I did then was retrieve all trust scores from a DT depth 2 point of view, and see how many forum members had what range of trust score based on this view. After all, DT depth 2 is the most common view most forum members, and it seemed interesting to see what they saw.
Since then, the DT configuration has been shaken quite a bit, and it seemed interesting to perform a similar updated analysis. On this occasion though I will not analyse all user profiles (basically because I lack a complete recent full user profile DB scrape), but rather I’ll focus on those forum members that are included in at least one Custom Trust List (be that trust relation of Trust or Distrust). This gives us the view of those included in trust lists from a DT depth 2 viewpoint.
The base considered is that of the 8.868 forum profiles included in a Customized Trust Network.
Trust has 3 components (A: B /C), where:
A is the Trust Score.
B is the number of unique users who have given the profile negative feedback.
C is the number of unique users who have given the profile positive feedback.
I’ve included a complete list with all the underlying information here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SBM3pmp0wVSETROtFUynE6yFvBbtTUS-DwSJQcXTiN8/edit?usp=sharing
Note that the trust scrore was scraped yesterday, and already today I can see changes in relation to the current DT Depth 2 scores.
2. Trust Score (A) - Distribution
Trust Score (A) has the following distribution across those included in a Custom Trust List:
Things that stand out:
a) 1.608 profiles have positive trust (18,13% of considered profiles), 1.428 have negative trust or unknown (16,10%), and the remaining 5.832 profiles have this value set to cero (65,77%).
b) Positive trust is concentrated on Legendries (441), Hero Members (329), Sr. Members (298), Full Members (198), and Members (151) … and strangely enough Newbies (123).
d) Negative or unknown Trust is concentrated on Sr.Members (309), Full Members (274) Newbies (263), Heroes (202), Legendries (186) and Members (150).
e) There are 49 entries will a Null value, corresponding to profiles with the value ?? (unknown), a deliberate part of the Trust score algorithm.
Top 30:
Bottom 30:
3. Unique users that have given negative ratings to a profile (B) - Distribution
Global distribution:
4. Unique users that have given positive ratings to a profile (C) - Distribution
Global distribution:
Back in November 2018 (see Analysis - DT Depth 2 - Profile Distribution), I took some time to take a look at how DT trust looked from an overall point of view. What I did then was retrieve all trust scores from a DT depth 2 point of view, and see how many forum members had what range of trust score based on this view. After all, DT depth 2 is the most common view most forum members, and it seemed interesting to see what they saw.
Since then, the DT configuration has been shaken quite a bit, and it seemed interesting to perform a similar updated analysis. On this occasion though I will not analyse all user profiles (basically because I lack a complete recent full user profile DB scrape), but rather I’ll focus on those forum members that are included in at least one Custom Trust List (be that trust relation of Trust or Distrust). This gives us the view of those included in trust lists from a DT depth 2 viewpoint.
The base considered is that of the 8.868 forum profiles included in a Customized Trust Network.
Trust has 3 components (A: B /C), where:
A is the Trust Score.
B is the number of unique users who have given the profile negative feedback.
C is the number of unique users who have given the profile positive feedback.
I’ve included a complete list with all the underlying information here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SBM3pmp0wVSETROtFUynE6yFvBbtTUS-DwSJQcXTiN8/edit?usp=sharing
Note that the trust scrore was scraped yesterday, and already today I can see changes in relation to the current DT Depth 2 scores.
2. Trust Score (A) - Distribution
Trust Score (A) has the following distribution across those included in a Custom Trust List:
Things that stand out:
a) 1.608 profiles have positive trust (18,13% of considered profiles), 1.428 have negative trust or unknown (16,10%), and the remaining 5.832 profiles have this value set to cero (65,77%).
b) Positive trust is concentrated on Legendries (441), Hero Members (329), Sr. Members (298), Full Members (198), and Members (151) … and strangely enough Newbies (123).
d) Negative or unknown Trust is concentrated on Sr.Members (309), Full Members (274) Newbies (263), Heroes (202), Legendries (186) and Members (150).
e) There are 49 entries will a Null value, corresponding to profiles with the value ?? (unknown), a deliberate part of the Trust score algorithm.
Top 30:
Code:
682: -0 / +74 Legendary 346731 minerjones https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=346731
553: -0 / +56 Legendary 134378 Blazed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378
419: -0 / +42 Staff 54791 Dabs https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54791
358: -0 / +42 Hero Member 1000199 krogothmanhattan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000199
340: -0 / +34 Legendary 113670 Mitchell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=113670
335: -0 / +36 Legendary 352429 BitcoinPenny https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352429
329: -0 / +36 Legendary 160943 greenplastic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=160943
320: -0 / +32 Legendary 402550 digicoinuser https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=402550
318: -0 / +34 Legendary 353680 chronicsky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353680
314: -0 / +34 Legendary 206143 Lesbian Cow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206143
309: -0 / +32 Legendary 881377 Hhampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377
300: -0 / +30 Legendary 133846 monbux https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=133846
300: -0 / +30 Legendary 224612 bithalo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224612
296: -0 / +31 Hero Member 369879 Zepher https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369879
289: -0 / +30 Legendary 18640 SebastianJu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
270: -0 / +27 Legendary 279158 wheelz1200 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=279158
270: -0 / +27 Legendary 81962 monkeynuts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81962
258: -0 / +27 Legendary 15728 TECSHARE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728
250: -0 / +25 Legendary 81292 Stunna https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292
242: -0 / +29 Legendary 507936 DarkStar_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
240: -0 / +24 Legendary 25960 smoothie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25960
240: -0 / +24 Legendary 47306 Pistachio https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=47306
230: -0 / +23 Legendary 109430 TookDk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=109430
230: -0 / +23 Legendary 37522 Tomatocage https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522
230: -0 / +24 Legendary 65034 dozerz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65034
553: -0 / +56 Legendary 134378 Blazed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378
419: -0 / +42 Staff 54791 Dabs https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54791
358: -0 / +42 Hero Member 1000199 krogothmanhattan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000199
340: -0 / +34 Legendary 113670 Mitchell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=113670
335: -0 / +36 Legendary 352429 BitcoinPenny https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352429
329: -0 / +36 Legendary 160943 greenplastic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=160943
320: -0 / +32 Legendary 402550 digicoinuser https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=402550
318: -0 / +34 Legendary 353680 chronicsky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353680
314: -0 / +34 Legendary 206143 Lesbian Cow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206143
309: -0 / +32 Legendary 881377 Hhampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377
300: -0 / +30 Legendary 133846 monbux https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=133846
300: -0 / +30 Legendary 224612 bithalo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224612
296: -0 / +31 Hero Member 369879 Zepher https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369879
289: -0 / +30 Legendary 18640 SebastianJu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
270: -0 / +27 Legendary 279158 wheelz1200 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=279158
270: -0 / +27 Legendary 81962 monkeynuts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81962
258: -0 / +27 Legendary 15728 TECSHARE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728
250: -0 / +25 Legendary 81292 Stunna https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292
242: -0 / +29 Legendary 507936 DarkStar_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=507936
240: -0 / +24 Legendary 25960 smoothie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25960
240: -0 / +24 Legendary 47306 Pistachio https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=47306
230: -0 / +23 Legendary 109430 TookDk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=109430
230: -0 / +23 Legendary 37522 Tomatocage https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37522
230: -0 / +24 Legendary 65034 dozerz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65034
Bottom 30:
Code:
trust rank user_Id Name URL
-9999: -14 / +0 Jr. Member 2228377 SmartPayMINT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2228377
-9999: -17 / +1 Full Member 298715 arguelles84 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298715
-9999: -17 / +20 Legendary 358020 Quickseller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020
-9999: -14 / +4 VIP 67058 TradeFortress ?? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058
-9999: -14 / +0 Hero Member 874254 game-protect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254
-9999: -21 / +15 Hero Member 89329 master-P https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89329
-8192: -13 / +0 Jr. Member 1764044 alia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764044
-8192: -13 / +0 Sr. Member 355462 Thule https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355462
-8192: -13 / +0 Newbie 650557 magic max https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=650557
-4096: -12 / +0 Full Member 709833 Embroiderymate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709833
-2048: -11 / +0 Newbie 2472107 H8bussesNbicycles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2472107
-2048: -11 / +0 Newbie 2536607 gwsukabokepjepang https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536607
-2048: -11 / +0 Legendary 8198 Inaba https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198
-2048: -11 / +0 Sr. Member 840084 VINSIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
-2046: -11 / +2 Hero Member 177007 Pierre11 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=177007
-1024: -10 / +0 Newbie 2143568 BitMiner713 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2143568
-1024: -10 / +0 Sr. Member 696473 Skeptical One https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696473
-1021: -10 / +3 Legendary 60727 lenny_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60727
-1006: -10 / +18 Sr. Member 343899 BiPolarBob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343899
-512: -9 / +0 Legendary 197593 amaclin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197593
-512: -9 / +0 Full Member 44366 BFL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44366
-512: -9 / +0 Full Member 397854 Ninjahitoko https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397854
-512: -9 / +0 Member 63314 BFL_Josh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63314
-512: -9 / +0 Member 800061 The Prince Of Egifts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=800061
-256: -8 / +0 Sr. Member 911719 4x4et https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911719
-9999: -14 / +0 Jr. Member 2228377 SmartPayMINT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2228377
-9999: -17 / +1 Full Member 298715 arguelles84 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=298715
-9999: -17 / +20 Legendary 358020 Quickseller https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020
-9999: -14 / +4 VIP 67058 TradeFortress ?? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058
-9999: -14 / +0 Hero Member 874254 game-protect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254
-9999: -21 / +15 Hero Member 89329 master-P https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89329
-8192: -13 / +0 Jr. Member 1764044 alia https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1764044
-8192: -13 / +0 Sr. Member 355462 Thule https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355462
-8192: -13 / +0 Newbie 650557 magic max https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=650557
-4096: -12 / +0 Full Member 709833 Embroiderymate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=709833
-2048: -11 / +0 Newbie 2472107 H8bussesNbicycles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2472107
-2048: -11 / +0 Newbie 2536607 gwsukabokepjepang https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2536607
-2048: -11 / +0 Legendary 8198 Inaba https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198
-2048: -11 / +0 Sr. Member 840084 VINSIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
-2046: -11 / +2 Hero Member 177007 Pierre11 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=177007
-1024: -10 / +0 Newbie 2143568 BitMiner713 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2143568
-1024: -10 / +0 Sr. Member 696473 Skeptical One https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696473
-1021: -10 / +3 Legendary 60727 lenny_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60727
-1006: -10 / +18 Sr. Member 343899 BiPolarBob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=343899
-512: -9 / +0 Legendary 197593 amaclin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197593
-512: -9 / +0 Full Member 44366 BFL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44366
-512: -9 / +0 Full Member 397854 Ninjahitoko https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=397854
-512: -9 / +0 Member 63314 BFL_Josh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63314
-512: -9 / +0 Member 800061 The Prince Of Egifts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=800061
-256: -8 / +0 Sr. Member 911719 4x4et https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911719
3. Unique users that have given negative ratings to a profile (B) - Distribution
Global distribution:
4. Unique users that have given positive ratings to a profile (C) - Distribution
Global distribution:
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