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I've been to Yellowstone dozens of times, watched Bison running for no apparent reason- on the road or off, tearing up trees and then stopping and playing in one of the many rivers there. Nothing unusual seeing Bison running around.

I think what causes the earth quakes are the bison themselves.  Im joking guys

Smiley

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I've been to Yellowstone dozens of times, watched Bison running for no apparent reason- on the road or off, tearing up trees and then stopping and playing in one of the many rivers there. Nothing unusual seeing Bison running around.

I think what causes the earth quakes are the bison themselves.  Im joking guys
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I am not worried until Yogi and BooBoo are seen leaving for cover.   Then I will start stockpiling.   They have been living there since I was a little kid.
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^^^ Well... the last eruption was millions of years ago. I don't think that a dormant volcano will suddenly get converted in to an active one. The process itself takes thousands of years.
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That’s according to the South African news website Praag, which said that the African National Congress was offered $10 billion a year for 10 years if it would build temporary housing for Americans in case of an eruption.

The potential eruption of the supervolcano, one of the biggest in the world, has been a hot topic ever since videos of animals allegedly fleeing the area before an earthquake were posted online. Although the veracity of the claims haven’t been backed up, dozens of bloggers and others have been trying to figure out what, if anything, is going on.

One of the latest theories is that the U.S. Geological Service and its partners, which keep an eye on the caldera, are hiding data from the public.

The Praag article says that the South African government fears that placing so many Americans in South Africa could dramatically change the country.

“South Africa will not be part of the plan, because there is a risk that millions of white Americans could be sent to South Africa in an emergency situation and that this would pose a risk to black national culture identity,” Dr. Siph Matwetwe, spokesman for the Department of Foreign Affairs, is quoted as saying.

“We have our own challenges, even if there is enough housing and infrastructure available, it will destabilize the country and may even bring back apartheid.”

The gigantic volcano in Yellowstone has erupted three times over the last two million years, covering a huge area of surrounding land. Maps from educational institutions and government officials project that up to 17 states could be fully or partially impacted if the volcano erupted again. The far south of Canada could also get hit, as well as the far north of Mexico.

Scientists aren’t sure when it will erupt next, although many have sought to assure the public that it probably won’t for a while. In reality, the volcano could erupt at any time, though officials would in theory be able to detect an impending eruption and alert Americans to the threat.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/662805-yellowstone-volcano-eruption-report-claims-that-us-has-contingency-deal-with-brazil-australia/

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So it turns out that the animal activity was a false alarm. Now the staff of the Yellowstone National Park are creating new plans to attract Chinese tourists to the area. Why Chinese?

http://www.kpax.com/news/yellowstone-asia-initiative-hopes-to-attract-chinese-tourists/

Money.
legendary
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So it turns out that the animal activity was a false alarm. Now the staff of the Yellowstone National Park are creating new plans to attract Chinese tourists to the area. Why Chinese?

http://www.kpax.com/news/yellowstone-asia-initiative-hopes-to-attract-chinese-tourists/
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We just need to figure out the one place on the planet that has no risk of volcano eruptions or other natural disasters, is free from psycho dictators, where we can use bitcoin freely and live in peace and harmony.  If you have any ideas let me know.   Wink

Added to my top priority todo list.*  Smiley
*It's a very long list, but I never give up.
legendary
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We really oughta get on this music festival.  Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
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Doomsday Volcanoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ablW3VBh8SM

Time to refresh my knowledge for the next 50 or so min.....
legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If Yellowstone erupts the way some scientists predict it will be bad mostly for the USA but expect black rain of hot ash all the way to Paris and London for months. Remember how bad for air traffic that eruption from Iceland was? And that was a regular vulcano...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_travel_disruption_after_the_2010_Eyjafjallajökull_eruption

Geopolitically a Yellowstone eruption would the best thing for Russia, the Balkans, Mongolia, China, India, etc for the next 1000 years.

South America could be safe maybe?

Great....Another danger to worry about?
Hopefully the animals are not trying to tell us something too serious.

We just need to figure out the one place on the planet that has no risk of volcano eruptions or other natural disasters, is free from psycho dictators, where we can use bitcoin freely and live in peace and harmony.  If you have any ideas let me know.   Wink

Here we go...




legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If Yellowstone erupts the way some scientists predict it will be bad mostly for the USA but expect black rain of hot ash all the way to Paris and London for months. Remember how bad for air traffic that eruption from Iceland was? And that was a regular vulcano...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_travel_disruption_after_the_2010_Eyjafjallajökull_eruption

Geopolitically a Yellowstone eruption would the best thing for Russia, the Balkans, Mongolia, China, India, etc for the next 1000 years.

South America could be safe maybe?

Great....Another danger to worry about?
Hopefully the animals are not trying to tell us something too serious.

We just need to figure out the one place on the planet that has no risk of volcano eruptions or other natural disasters, is free from psycho dictators, where we can use bitcoin freely and live in peace and harmony.  If you have any ideas let me know.   Wink
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If Yellowstone erupts the way some scientists predict it will be bad mostly for the USA but expect black rain of hot ash all the way to Paris and London for months. Remember how bad for air traffic that eruption from Iceland was? And that was a regular vulcano...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_travel_disruption_after_the_2010_Eyjafjallajökull_eruption

Geopolitically a Yellowstone eruption would the best thing for Russia, the Balkans, Mongolia, China, India, etc for the next 1000 years.

South America could be safe maybe?

Great....Another danger to worry about?
Hopefully the animals are not trying to tell us something too serious.
legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If yellowstone erupts, goodbye human race.  No god is going to save us.  Smiley

Even in the shelter all gonna die? With the technology no one will survive?

Obviously there are varying degrees of eruption, but if it were to give us everything it had, it would put us into an ice age (no sunlight due to dust) for a decade, like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.

Maybe all of the "global warming" fanatics would finally shut up for a while though. Wink
legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If Yellowstone erupts the way some scientists predict it will be bad mostly for the USA but expect black rain of hot ash all the way to Paris and London for months. Remember how bad for air traffic that eruption from Iceland was? And that was a regular vulcano...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_travel_disruption_after_the_2010_Eyjafjallajökull_eruption

Geopolitically a Yellowstone eruption would the best thing for Russia, the Balkans, Mongolia, China, India, etc for the next 1000 years.

South America could be safe maybe?
legendary
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Earthquakes and Seismic Activity
I have to remember to check for Earthquake danger before planning a vacation.

FYI:
There is recent TV coverage(s) on this story.
Currently easy to find here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Animals+Leaving+Yellowstone%3F+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If yellowstone erupts, goodbye human race.  No god is going to save us.  Smiley

Even in the shelter all gonna die? With the technology no one will survive?

Obviously there are varying degrees of eruption, but if it were to give us everything it had, it would put us into an ice age (no sunlight due to dust) for a decade, like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.
sr. member
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If yellowstone erupts, goodbye human race.  No god is going to save us.  Smiley

Even in the shelter all gonna die? With the technology no one will survive?
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

Hopefully Bitcoin is worth enough to get on a plane for an "extended" vacation with my family ASAP if this happens.  Wink



yeah, no bitcoin needs power, if that were to happen, at least loud enough, we'd go back to medieval times
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they are moving to a different part of the park, they do it every year. calm down...these arent the droids your looking for!
Vod
legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

If yellowstone erupts, goodbye human race.  No god is going to save us.  Smiley
legendary
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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?

Hopefully Bitcoin is worth enough to get on a plane for an "extended" vacation with my family ASAP if this happens.  Wink

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If Yellowstone erupts bye bye US and A?
legendary
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BitChicksHusband had a basset hound when he was young that could predict earthquakes.  The dog would make really strange noises right before one hit.  Don't underestimate the ability of animals to predict things we can't.  Who knows, the Bison might be smarter than scientists. Wink

I need you to get me a couple dozen bison to test these theories out.  Not sure what kind of results I'll be able to provide you of course.  I do have a good amount of barbecue sauce ready.
legendary
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Wow - I worked there for six months.  And Bison don't run like that ... pretty much for anything.
I assume you are referring to the video of the bison trotting up one side of the road.'

The other videos I found, they were pretty normal animal behavior.

So what's with the right hand trot video?  Fake video?  Bison sensing something?  It did to me look like somewhat unusual animal behavior, and I've been around cattle goats and other herd animals...
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Wow - I worked there for six months.  And Bison don't run like that ... pretty much for anything.
Vod
legendary
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Man is the smartest creature on this planet?  If you scale the length of time earth has been here down to 46 years, we have been here for 4 hours and destroyed 50% of forests within one minute since the industrial revolution.

Real smart.  Creating nuclear bombs and housing enough to destroy the world 40 times.  Real smart.  Committing genocide amongst our own race.  Real smart.

Destroying earth is real smart nowadays I suppose.

So what?   Man is still the smartest creature on the planet, with some obvious exceptions.
legendary
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BitChicksHusband had a basset hound when he was young that could predict earthquakes.  The dog would make really strange noises right before one hit.  Don't underestimate the ability of animals to predict things we can't.  Who knows, the Bison might be smarter than scientists. Wink



What your dog would predict is called the "P Wave", which arrives faster than the "S Wave"  that does all the damage.  We can detect these P Waves as well, but we don't have much time between the warning and the shaking.

Man evolved to be the smartest creatures on this planet.  Bison are idiots (i.e. dank) in comparison.

Man is the smartest creature on this planet?  If you scale the length of time earth has been here down to 46 years, we have been here for 4 hours and destroyed 50% of forests within one minute since the industrial revolution.

Real smart.  Creating nuclear bombs and housing enough to destroy the world 40 times.  Real smart.  Committing genocide amongst our own race.  Real smart.

Destroying earth is real smart nowadays I suppose.
legendary
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What your dog would predict is called the "P Wave", which arrives faster than the "S Wave"  that does all the damage.  We can detect these P Waves as well, but we don't have much time between the warning and the shaking.

Man evolved to be the smartest creatures on this planet.  Bison are idiots (i.e. dank) in comparison.
Bison may be idiots in comparison to Man, but I think your giving Man too much credit here. Clearly, Sasquatch is the smarter creature.  Smiley


BTW - You gotta stop harping on dank, don't let him get into your head   Cheesy
legendary
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BitChicksHusband had a basset hound when he was young that could predict earthquakes.  The dog would make really strange noises right before one hit.  Don't underestimate the ability of animals to predict things we can't.  Who knows, the Bison might be smarter than scientists. Wink



What your dog would predict is called the "P Wave", which arrives faster than the "S Wave"  that does all the damage.  We can detect these P Waves as well, but we don't have much time between the warning and the shaking.

Man evolved to be the smartest creatures on this planet.  Bison are idiots (i.e. dank) in comparison.



I knew "dank" had to be included somehow in Yellowstone  Smiley
Vod
legendary
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BitChicksHusband had a basset hound when he was young that could predict earthquakes.  The dog would make really strange noises right before one hit.  Don't underestimate the ability of animals to predict things we can't.  Who knows, the Bison might be smarter than scientists. Wink



What your dog would predict is called the "P Wave", which arrives faster than the "S Wave"  that does all the damage.  We can detect these P Waves as well, but we don't have much time between the warning and the shaking.

Man evolved to be the smartest creatures on this planet.  Bison are idiots (i.e. dank) in comparison.

legendary
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BitChicksHusband had a basset hound when he was young that could predict earthquakes.  The dog would make really strange noises right before one hit.  Don't underestimate the ability of animals to predict things we can't.  Who knows, the Bison might be smarter than scientists. Wink

legendary
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Interesting. Seems like a difference in behavior between the 2011, 2012, and 2014 bisons.

The problem appears to be that the bison are running towards the park & caldera... but maybe they are just done with bison life and are committing bison suicide  Grin


Super Volcano Grill Party!
legendary
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Interesting. Seems like a difference in behavior between the 2011, 2012, and 2014 bisons.

The problem appears to be that the bison are running towards the park & caldera... but maybe they are just done with bison life and are committing bison suicide  Grin
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I find it hard to believe that a bison would be able to detect earthquakes in advance.

We know of the two types of waves that an earthquake is made of - and they both are sent out as the earthquake happens.  There is nothing that we know of that happens in advance of an earthquake that could be detected.

Besides, how would such a odd sense evolve? 
From even minor large scale movements of dirt/earth it's totally reasonable to think that air composition will change as huge amounts of gas are released from deep layers, likely mostly co2.  Also, obviously the static charges and the balance of charge between air mass and earth changes.  So now you are looking at vibration, chemical, electrical changes.  It could be as simple as some group of these signals being to the bison a "bad smell".

Actually that's a hypothesis capable of being tested...

You would need a hell of a budget to scale this test... Make sure you use the word "green", "climate change", "for the children" when asking for this multi million dollar grant while staying at the nearest 5 star motel
legendary
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I've been to Yellowstone dozens of times, watched Bison running for no apparent reason- on the road or off, tearing up trees and then stopping and playing in one of the many rivers there. Nothing unusual seeing Bison running around.
Aw...come on....

you know....

you just KNOWS, deep inside...

this time it's different!!!
sr. member
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I've been to Yellowstone dozens of times, watched Bison running for no apparent reason- on the road or off, tearing up trees and then stopping and playing in one of the many rivers there. Nothing unusual seeing Bison running around.
legendary
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A few years also, similar incident was reported from the Yellowstone. But no earthquake or any other natural catastrophe followed.

Here is one from 2012.  The behavior of the bison is obviously quite different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_bAAoH0JVQ

and from 2011.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85JhGNtOBwU
legendary
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A few years also, similar incident was reported from the Yellowstone. But no earthquake or any other natural catastrophe followed.
legendary
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I find it hard to believe that a bison would be able to detect earthquakes in advance.

We know of the two types of waves that an earthquake is made of - and they both are sent out as the earthquake happens.  There is nothing that we know of that happens in advance of an earthquake that could be detected.

Besides, how would such a odd sense evolve? 
From even minor large scale movements of dirt/earth it's totally reasonable to think that air composition will change as huge amounts of gas are released from deep layers, likely mostly co2.  Also, obviously the static charges and the balance of charge between air mass and earth changes.  So now you are looking at vibration, chemical, electrical changes.  It could be as simple as some group of these signals being to the bison a "bad smell".

Actually that's a hypothesis capable of being tested...
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Quantum Control and Entanglement in a Chemical Compass

ABSTRACT
The radical-pair mechanism is one of the two main hypotheses to explain the navigability of animals in weak magnetic fields, enabling, e.g., birds to see Earth’s magnetic field. It also plays an essential role in spin chemistry. Here, we show how quantum control can be used to either enhance or reduce the performance of such a chemical compass, providing a new route to further study the radical-pair mechanism and its applications. We study the role of radical-pair entanglement in this mechanism, and demonstrate its intriguing connections with the magnetic-field sensitivity of the compass. Beyond their immediate application to the radical-pair mechanism, these results also demonstrate how state-of-the-art quantum technologies could potentially be used to probe and control biological functions.


http://phys.org/news196322276.html

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This not about earthquake directly but cool to know.
legendary
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I find it hard to believe that a bison would be able to detect earthquakes in advance.

We know of the two types of waves that an earthquake is made of - and they both are sent out as the earthquake happens.  There is nothing that we know of that happens in advance of an earthquake that could be detected.

Besides, how would such a odd sense evolve? 

I don't know about the bison but people have been trying to prove if that was true or not for a long time

http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/02/seismology

legendary
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If it is not CGI is this normal behavior? I remember reading about how animals were panicking before the tsunami in 2005.

Maybe it is nothing special.
Vod
legendary
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I find it hard to believe that a bison would be able to detect earthquakes in advance.

We know of the two types of waves that an earthquake is made of - and they both are sent out as the earthquake happens.  There is nothing that we know of that happens in advance of an earthquake that could be detected.

Besides, how would such a odd sense evolve? 
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I must admit, the bison shadows do not look real. They are a bit too dark for what it seems like a gloomy day. The trees do not have shades under them and yet those bisons have dark shadows. At one point, a bison was very close to a yellow pole on the left, the yellow pole did not cast a shadow and yet the bison did.
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Yellow Stone is suppose to be where the next super volcanoe explodes, according to the latest science news where about to have a supernova explosion near us in the next 50 years.
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I think this is the original video of the bisons:
http://youtu.be/RiexHmbJlp4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEH58QvFH0w

I personally believe this is a well made fake of a CGI herd of bison. Maybe for some viral marketing campaign for a movie, TV show. The shadows, the way they feel "light" when moving, the red shadow-less pole. But I could be wrong of course.
 Smiley
Still a nice way to put us in perspective reminding us who is really in charge on the very large scale if that thing blows one day.

Number One Climate Changer: Nature itself.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/reports-bison-fleeing-yellowstone-amid-fears-quake-could-trigger-eruption-of-parks-supervolanco/story-fn5fsgyc-1226872993965




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