Topic: [ANN] COINHEALTH.IO (Read 433 times)

Looks like a scam

Founder and CEO working hard

https://www.instagram.com/michaeljryan1/?hl=en

Imagine being rewarded for living a healthy lifestyle, that's exactly what Coinhealth will do, you will be rewarded with its token for every attempt you make to live a healthier life They are going to create a platform where every health practitioner and the patients would meet and transact health  issues. All financial transactions will be done with the aid of Coinheath
This is going to bring a revolution to both the health and Blockchain world for the first time doctors will enjoy a decentralized, shared leger and accurate patients medical record through the use of Blockchain technology.

The crowdsale is ended but still no sign of life from the team except the Ghost Admin on telegram.
Below you can read the whole conservation (except the message where i gave my wallet address) between Ghost Admin and me.....
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Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:36]
Why did you block me from the group?

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:36]
why do you need proof of my token purchases?

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:38]
https://wavesdesk.com/account/3P5M6JHqrdZNfK7n6wdurm2BtcUyVKWukSn

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:38]
10 dec. 2017 875k units... these units are dumped in march

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:40]
trade history: https://wavesdesk.com/account/3P5M6JHqrdZNfK7n6wdurm2BtcUyVKWukSn

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:41]
mail send to [email protected]... mail were bounced

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:42]
twitter relocated to: https://twitter.com/michaeljryan13

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:42]
so what do i wrong?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:45]
You are making false staements. You are highlighting an address that isnt CH the company and claiming the company dumped 800k tokens , completely false I asked to verify your Waves wallet address to verify your purchases have come from CH.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:46]
where did the 875k units from? they came from coinhealth to the address which dumped them.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:47]
The twitter is the CEO's old one try coinhealth1 on twitter. [email protected] may have bounced. It became a spam box for all the scum in the industry to send their crap. So we closed it.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:47]
Show me this transaction

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:49]
Also at one time all tokens came from CH what members do with them is up to them. The team is on contract and cant sell.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:50]
i asked for answers and did not acuse anyone...

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:52]
You made accusations that a team member dumped 800k tokens , completely false.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:52]
if the twitter and email address does not work then it makes sense that I ask questions about this?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:53]
You accused Abrego of selling tokens which he can because hes not on contract hes a bounty manager.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:54]
You stated there is no social sites , incorrect we have twitter, fb, insta, reddit, tumbler, bitcointalk. and about 5 others

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:54]
It was very coincidental that Arbegro was mentioned on twitter and the day after suddenly offered 2000 units for sale.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:54]
You cant market on any of them or google adwords because of new regulation

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:54]
https://wavesdesk.com/tx/8BiS55kasUrHn7F3oXJSPQXbS5oZb6jvQcpv3mWxVMWL

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:55]
25% of token ....

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:55]
Listen we all know the market sucks, but being a hysterical consumer isnt the way to handle it.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:56]
Abrego is able to do what he wants with his tokens he isnt on a contract

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
One of our largest token holders has 25 million and hasnt sold a token.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
The ceo hasnt sold a token.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 00:57]
and the CEO isnt the largest token holder.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 00:58]
the TX don't lie....  the transaction says: 25% ....
where did they come from? not from me

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:01]
Wow you have no understanding of this do you. The tokens at one time came from CH . In the TX does it say how they were afforded. No it doesnt thats what you dont know.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:01]
what has changed with the regulation? why did CH choose this design for the ico? why do I see little progress in marketing and so on? can you imagine why I have these questions? No, that is not because the market is against it ... no because I have the impression that an attempt was made to pick up more by means of a detour because a wrong ico structure was

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:02]
once again unfounded accusations

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:02]
you cant market in social media anymore for one , google adwords doesnt allow it either.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:03]
maybe if you understood market econ , you might understand that 90% of all tokens are down over 75%. Not just CH

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:03]
is the ico listed on coinschedule.com or other ico sites?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:04]
yeah about 40, coinschedule we no longer use. But were on there for 2 months, they have gotten far too expensive.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:05]
it is a pity that you are attacking me now and do not enter into content questions.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:06]
okay .... what are the current developments and what can we expect in the short term?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:07]
Im not attacking you , but its clear you dont know what your talking about. Why dont you point out that the company has bought back 100's of thousands of token peopke dumped?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:08]
The beta was about ro be released 3 weeks ago but we had a glitch with two opperating systems we are now fixing.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:08]
lol obviously you wont point that out

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:09]
if I do not understand it all ... explain it to me in a very simple way instead of the way you respond to it

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:10]
Also until you verify you actually hold 30k tokens like you said by posting you address. Im a little over your accusations. And answering any of your questions.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:11]
see me as first time costumer and convince me to buy tokens

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:12]
Very simply put , what backs CH? BTC,LTC,ETH, Waves where are they? over 75% down . Its a massive flow pool.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:13]
if everything is 75% less than it is in fiat seen the best to step in. many coins for little

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:13]
that is no reason for me that the ico remains behind

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:19]
Ill tell you what since this is a long conversation lets schedule a time to speak. Ill call you through here. When would be good for you?

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:20]
Because you dont understand economics that why.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:22]
it is a shame that it is all up to me or the market that is down .... I use google translate because I am not English speaking so calling does not make sense.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:23]
my conclusion is that the 875k units have completely annihilated the ico! if they are earned with something why are they not released until the end of the ico?

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:27]
this conversation did not lead to anything except that we both now think what a jerk is that guest is too bad about the way in which cryptoland reacts to each other. If someone is not at the same level, then economic knowledge is lacking. If there is something different, it is up to the market. if critical questions are asked, you first have to defend yourself as questioner or prove that you have tokens in your possession.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:28]
What language do you speak? I speak a few.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:28]
Dutch

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:29]
Okay thats not one I speak.

Ghost Admin, [05.04.18 01:30]
Ill type out the full scenario for you and explanation but its going to take time.

Casper SMS303, [05.04.18 01:30]
ok no problem

Casper SMS303, [13.04.18 15:04]
and.... do you have it?

Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 17:49]
Still waiting for the full scenario....

Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 17:52]
If CH have bought back lot of tokens they can buy mine's too ... i dont have faith in this project anymore...

Ghost Admin, [14.04.18 17:59]
Place your tokens for sale, you are in full control of your tokens. We are not at your beckoned call as we have answered your questions. That is why our model is the way it is. At no point in time were you ever locked in and had no way out. You dont want the tokens anymore, sell them.

Casper SMS303, [14.04.18 18:00]
I gave you my adrress to prove i have almost 30k ... but i am still waiting for the full scenario as you promised

Ghost Admin, [14.04.18 20:37]
Let me ask you , you said you used 250 waves. Waves is sub 4 dollars usd. So should we as an ICO say we lost faith in the Waves token because when people invested in it was worth 12-15 dollars a token. No we cant, we have to accept that the tokens that were used to pay for CH were worth far more when invested. Just like CH is down all tokenage used to buy CH is dowb meaning the ICO is at the same loss as the purchaser reciprocally.

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:07]
I messaged to the coinhealth twitter account yesterday and still waiting for an answer....

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:07]
i also replied in the Bitcointalk topic and guess what.... NO RESPONSE!

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:08]
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34870916

Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:13]
I just checked the twitter , please show me what Coinhealth account you messaged. We do not have a message from you.

Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:13]
our twitter is @coinhealth1

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:14]
More and more I get the impression that funds have been raised, the enthusiasm for the crowdsal disappointment and since then the project has stopped. The elaboration of reactions on twitter and on bitcointalk feeds this feeling more and more. Do you understand why I have received antipathy against the whole project? All that nonsense that I am not an economist and therefore do not understand it can put you in your place where the sun will never shine. You do not treat investors like that.

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
i used that twitter address...

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
all replies can be posted in the bitcointalk topic...

Casper SMS303, [16.04.18 22:16]
make it transaprant

Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:17]
You make constant accusations that arent true. We as a team do not have to take that type of abuse. What you do not understand and which we have tried to explain. Is that you dont spend funds when they are at 1/4 value at the same rate you would when at full value. You may call the economics of how a project can be ran and afforded crap but its the truth.

Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:28]
The value of any crypto participants used to buy CH is at a 75% loss in current markets. Its very simple $1000 in waves 2 months ago is $250 in waves now. The project then makes cut backs and postpones things until markets are more favorable to continue at budget.

Ghost Admin, [16.04.18 22:29]
Without doing this the project runs the risk of insolvency because of the market downturn. Does that make sense?

Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:25]
answer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=2629209.0;num_replies=17

Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:32]
be honest... THE TEAM MESSED UP THE ICO/CROWDSALE and tried to jump into the hype....  now the results are dissapointed the project seems to be on hold

Casper SMS303, [20.04.18 18:32]
[In reply to Ghost Admin]
i passed this station 2weeks ago.... i paid with with waves and if my tokens bought back it will be for the same amount of waves... so there is no lost... does make that any sense?

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 18:55]
I have tried to explain this repeatedly.When you purchased with waves , what was the value of each wave?  Waves is down from 15 dollars to 5. So the crypto you paid with is at a loss.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 18:59]
We didnt mess anything up , we slowed things down and are still ahead of schedule. Stop making accusation about the project that you dont have any factual information about. Currently today Dr. Johny Nobles is at the IBM blockchain conference speaking with reps about our project. We were in silicon valley 3 months ago doing the same. Were looking to hire 2 more developers as we speak to bring all dev together in the beta. I have been very nice about trying to explain all that is going on. I have also tried to help you understand that market economics play a huge part in a project. I wont continue to try to explain due to constant accusations.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:00]
The waves you used to purchase are value at 1/3 of when you purchased. Thats a loss.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:00]
For us.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:03]
This is a 5 year project and you are complaining in the first couple months. It took BTC 8 years to have substantial value.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:03]
Im sorry if you thought this was a get rich quick ICO, It was never advertised as that.

Ghost Admin, [20.04.18 19:04]
And its healthcare which takes ample time.

Casper SMS303, [24.04.18 18:48]
The crowdsale is ended and the big sell order of 10mln tokens are still there at the DEX. Why is nobody from the team reacting or posting updates in the Bitcointalk topic? Yeah ... you slowed things (everything) down and still try to gain more funds...

Ok the heat is on bastards! These coinhealth MOFO's reported my twitter messages with the link to this topic as spam. Result my twitter account is suspended by this.

Coinhealth team is this the way you thread early investors and people who trust you their money to start your project?
Why are you hiding and not reacting in this topic?

Of the 200mln tokens there are only 7.5mln sold so far....
Is this the reason why the team is hiding, not posting updates and stopped their activities on social media?

By hiding and be silence i assume all my found results are true and this project works one way ---> your way by collecting money and do nothing as was promised in the white papers!

Looks interesting. Lots to read and take in so I may need to go over it again but for now Im watching.

Just for the sake of clarity I do not take any action to undermine the project or create FUD. My critical posts also have nothing to do with the current disappointing market (which has a price fall of> 50% compared to December 2017), which hinders the current value of a CoinHealth token and that makes me an angry consumer as by Ghost Admin of the telegram group in DM continues to occur.

The ico's I've participated in I see all as (mid-) long-term investments and I place CoinHealth under it. The ico's are: Bankera, Astronaut, Credits, Change Bank, Coffeecoin, Oceanlab and a few other ones that I forget.

No I am critical because of the inactivity of the team on social media, the lack of marketing by, for example, an airdrop to attract potential new investors and communicating the technical project developments and / or entering into contractual business relations to the project in the directer future.
 
However, I have noticed that the previous ico price on the Waves DEX has been lowered by Coinhealth from 0.083Waves to 0.039Waves per CoinHealth token.

Why is nothing communicated about this on social media?
What is the reason for the price reduction?
Why has the team still not reacted in this topic?

Ghost Admin is aware of this topic. He / she has received the link. Ignoring my questions or that the team keeps hiding and being accused of not understanding makes me only more pissed!

It is up to CoinHealth to remedy this. Because of our money, your (our) project becomes possible and here we all hope to become wiser in the longer term.

I hope that my posts encourage the team to continue, communicate transparently with the supporters, follow the road map and deliver what has been reflected in the white papers.

So therefore again for the sake of clarity: If I am wrong, then I am really not the worst to admit it.

I do not know how, from the point of view of the client of this platform - I will honestly say - I do not believe, but from the investor's point of view it can be a profitable investment.

I messaged Coinhealth and their known employees by Twitter, reffered to this topic and waiting for an answer!!!!

Waiting for an answer minds me of a quote from Frank "The Punisher" Castle (©Marvel):

CoinHealth it is up to you to prove me:
i am completly wrong, the project is alive and kickin' or even buy my tokens back instead collecting the funds and ledding the project into a silence death.....

Yes the crowdsale is until the end of this month. Since the beginning of the sale, the tokens have been offered with increasing prices in various trade pairs on the Waves DEX. Sales have been stagnating since the end of February. The token is now offered by Coinhealth in only one trade pair. The team seems to have been inactive since March.

In the telegram group I asked where the 875k tokens came from, why they were dumped, was the team responsible for this and
whether the number of 2k offered by Albegro each time came from them? Through Wavesdesk I have seen the transactions from the Coinhealth address to Abrego and also the 875k tokens.

For this I was banned from the group. Via DM I contacted the "Ghost Admin" of the group. Here it seemed that I had to prove the justice of my questions just as I am in possession of CoinHealth tokens. That admin said also you have no economic knowledge and therefore you do not understand and in another messages was said that the team has bought up tokens.

I own nearly 30k Coinhealth tokens and have over 250Waves in it. So it seems to me that I can look very critically curious about the project. Not that someone who is upset, because the progress of the crowdsale does not go as expected, the project stops and goes on vacation of my money .....

Now I try to contact by this topic and twitter channels to get in touch with them.
My confidence in this project is decreasing considerably last weeks.......

Edit:
This the waves address from the 875k dumper: 3P5M6JHqrdZNfK7n6wdurm2BtcUyVKWukSn
CoinHealth's Waves address: https://wavesdesk.com/account/3PMfHdaDy2Vh6eP4vdzvWrx1axxkHSuoAxk

They're already tradable (and already dumped, it seems based on your post)? But on their site that I've just checked, their crowdsale is still on progress.

Airdrop? When? What is your relation with the project?

Can someone from the team answer or explain the current status?

Any signs of life in this project?
It seems this project is not evolving as aspected....
Asking critic questions about a transfer of 875k CH tokens which were dumped in february far below market price (around 0.0006 Waves per token), led to a block in the Telegram group...

Transaction of the 875k CH tokens: https://wavesdesk.com/tx/8BiS55kasUrHn7F3oXJSPQXbS5oZb6jvQcpv3mWxVMWL

Github last commit 4 dec 2017: https://github.com/CoinHealth/CoinHealth
That is over 5 months.....
What is progress so far?

Hi team

Do you need french translation for your whitepaper ?
If yes I'm ready to work for you.
PM if interested.

Best regards

Hi dev , I do not see the bonus program, airdrop. Do you want to implement it in the future?

just this the contents of the thread you created, maybe you need to give more detail explanation again in this ANN. because I have not understood at all with the ICO project that you will develop

Actually your thread is so sparse, looks tedious. Just have only some website links. How can convince everyone to support your project?

You can focus on your article, very little information, this is a coin ICO or Lending or POS

Hello DEV. Your coin is not really eye-catching, it lacks a lot of information, such as whitepaper, roadmap, team dev, programs bounty, twitter, facebook, ...