Topic: [ANN] HORIZON (HZ) New ANN thread (Read 1909 times)

Doesn't seem to work?

-MarkM-

Yes, it works

running Horizon Server. blockchain is downloading appears to be caught up!

Firing up my server again after some downtime. Running from my old residence thru remote desktop lol. Couldn't move all my hardware to Texas.

See http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/ for all the coins/assets I have so far set up on the Stellar platform.

See also http://makemoney.knotwork.com/horizon/ as there are more set up on HORIZON platform than on Stellar platform, partly because I have not implemented the "shares" type assets on Stellar in order to help people keep in mind they are in game shares of in game Corps, like shares in EVE online of companies in EVE online, and in particular they are not "securities" outside of the game even though within the game sure yeah they are what governments in the game would presumably classify as "securities".

In the Latest Rates include-file, "shares" have a lowercase-s prefix indicating they are shares.

For example DVCrate is value of a DeVCoin, sDVCrate is value of a share of DeVCorp.

-MarkM-

So HZ is now actively trading under stellar?
No market is listed in CMC so maybe, time to update your other info as well.
At least give encouragement for long time followers of this old alt.
Very few old alts are still alive today, so encourage the community to check out again your project.

HZ/XLM and HZ/DVC are set up on the Stellar platform.

For HZ on the Stellar platform see http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/hz/ ( Explorer: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/HZ-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5 )

For DVC on the Stellar platform see http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/dvc/ ( Explorer: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5 )

-MarkM-

We are up. Not hard to run the Java Applet "Horizon NRS" locally from Windows 10 for me. So my node is up 80% of the time (guesstimate) - not forcing full scan from block 0 anymore so it runs pretty quickly from the Batch file on command prompt. I used to force scan everytime but I suppose its better to just get on the network and running as quick as I can.

Updated list of nodes:
Lfm.knotwork.com
Ufbsh.no-ip.org
73.8.240.113
160.20.146.23
82.223.216.54
85.165.109.217

I'm online every other day. Its slow to start up the server and my CPU does the best it can. There's going to be a return to this platform soon, right Mark? (@knotwork)

If you are interested on trying Horizon, check this guide to get started:
https://medium.com/@Raf21/horizon-hz-a-how-to-guide-bda4e415819a

Online nodes:
Lfm.knotwork.com
Ufbsh.no-ip.org
73.8.240.113

Feel free to reach out in Horizon's discord for more help, if needed.
https://discord.gg/CG4n5MQ

here is a "working" link - about Horizon

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/next-horizon/

Maybe - with a little bigger node count - it would be possible to change the "inactive" attribute on the Coinmarketcap ...
We have Stellar, as a possible Exchange for Horizon - with an Stellar Asset, but it is a possibility to buy / sell it.

Good. I don't got an offer from You, Sir, here, but I placed some on Stellar.
https://stellarterm.com/exchange/HZ-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/XLM-native

If somebody would like to own HZ, to try forging on HZ chain (Something working already, but ... And HZ very similar to NXT and other PoS coins, but you can own a BIG amount, if you wish and we can find a good rate for the amount you would like to own...) just get some HZ, and...
((I have ~5% of the whole marketcap. It seems to be a little too much at this time.))

You can take the offer on Stellar, and you can pm me here to exchange the coins to the coins on Horizon. Or simple pm me. Escrow not simple, because it is not more a popular coin, but we can exchange the amounts with small amounts - as i.e. coinfeine do it. We can use i.e. OByte ledger and the simple smart contract possibilities there, and you can send me GBYTE's against the transferred coins on the Horizon blockchain.

Maybe if we get a bigger community, we can restart Horizon better. (( This group, which is behind this 'Galactic Millieu' game, isn't too much trust-able, should I say. ))

I think a new node should have some millions of coins, if the admin would like to feel - it is forging the chain. Below 3 - 5 millions coin, I think, it is more harder to forge it and more harder to see a result.

What is Your offer, Sir?

I have created a STELLAR market for HZ/I0C I0C/HZ swaps:

https://interstellar.exchange/app/#/trade/./I0C/GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5/HZ/GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

Price is 1.000000 HZ per ~0.06 I0C. Anyone selling I0C tokens for HZ tokens on STELLAR?

You can have my IP. I trust all of you. I don't care. I think you all run nodes just like me in this meta game. Maybe we need a meta like file (like .TOML) or something to show where Horizon comes from... Or where its locally stored on each of our own accounts =P I dunno.

I suppose Poloniex escrow@poloniex Polonidex still takes from this network as a web based exchange and I suppose locked threads or delisted KYC exchanges might make certain versions of HZ software we use not readable forwards and backwards but if we all just admit we're in this together and CORs (Cross Origin Resource sharing) between a HZ/BTC pair exists... I mean just click the link still active over the web browser and TCP/IP and see where it forwards you:

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/#btc_hz

I've said this so many times. It's a waiting game. I am sure there are easter eggs, or bootstraps, or tip bots we could use somewhere. Or perhaps we already have - and that's why my local app data for Keybase's desktop app is always part of the nhz.log file in my roaming folder on Windows everytime I start up my Horizon Server. Sharing is caring

So either lets all ADMIT what this actually is. Or lets all help Dan figure out how to be more productive in helping other normies from "the planet known as earth" find opportunities they just cannot accept to exist.

IFINTA: Give me some info about what OS you use, what software you're running and I will try and answer even though you are a fellow character in this game and I am probably just amusing you by posting my offer to help lol

It was a failure to forge Horizon with 12 500 000 HZ? ((I transferred a little more also to my server, but it shouldn't yet count in the forging amount, I think))
As always - last times - I think, Horizon chain was forked to quickly. I stopped my server.
Me seems lfm.knotwork.com and ufbsh.no-ip.org should be restarted also.
Any hints?

yes

Are you the creator of the fork of hz-source used in Raf's medium article?

Ah yes. Being off web exchanges with your native currency but working in the background as "the" platform could be quite lucrative if such native coins were in - escrow@[somewhere?] 

I created a telegram since no one else has yet. Figured I'd grab the address before anyone else did in case the admins or people who develop this project want to take it over. For now great place for community in addition to discord For now I am the admin but I'd be happy to hand it over when the wizards come out of the shadows and admit their creation. I just run a Java server/node and use the platform from my own local hosted wallet.

https://t.me/horizonplatform

I joined also - to forge Horizon...

Thanks for the kind words! I didn't do much really. Just saw that STELLAR was getting all the attention and HORIZON was left a bit out.
Hoped, maybe, that a guide could introduce new or curious people to the platform.

After all, curiosity can be very profitable sometimes

First of all, thank you for actively trying to help people get up and running in this topic! Seems a little lonely here

Second, I do have those in my conf. And a few other addresses I found from a Wizard's web UI.

Let's just say this guy might be the first WINDOWS user to successfully download the complete Horizon blockchain as well as actively run a Java server while forging blocks from his own locally hosted UI

I just wish more people understood but its devs and community members like you that help people like me realize the value is as (secretly) strong on this platform as it is in the humanity of these devs/business figureheads who get constantly shit on in the media. Perhaps that protects the chain from self centrists. And maybe I'll never get a USD value out of HZ that one would think worthwhile to put in the effort. But I will run this server forever, so long as I can maintain it. It was the most challenging experience in setting it up - but I learned so much and persistence paid off. At least in what I find valuable.

I had the same problem syncing it for the first time. Have you tried adding these to the config file?
nhz.defaultPeers=lfm.knotwork.com; ufbsh.no-ip.org
nhz.wellKnownPeers=lfm.knotwork.com; ufbsh.no-ip.org
nhz.minNumberOfKnownPeers=1
nhz.minNumberOfForkConfirmations=1

Don't know if that's is the best solution but it worked for me the first time. The nodes I set up are currently offline. Will get one up once I can.

Unfortunately I have tried version 5.2, 5.3, 5.4 of the Java client. I am updated to Java 8. My firewall allows TCP connections for 7774 and 7776 and I'm still getting a message that I am finished downloading the blockchain using the nodes mentioned all over these Horizon threads... Everytime around 25% of the blocks have downloaded and then done. It won't start again if I restart and exec run.bat. I'm using Windows 10 and would really love to run my own node since I just bought another 5,200+ HZ tokens on STELLAR and sent them to knotwork on keybase to exchange for blockchain coins. Just being responsible. What if LFM.knotwork.com:7776 disappears? I want to support the network

If I could merit you I would! Thanks for sharing just saw today!

Been using mine to buy the various assets MarkM listed on HORIZON platform but I do have 30 or so HZ left

Also, I'm happy to share I finally got this thing running and downloading blocks on Windows 10! Before paper wallets and MarkM's hosted web UI gateway got me access to Horizon. I'm glad I finally figured out how to get it to sync and not stall

Considering doing a tutorial to help others. What a great great project to run a node for

Anyone out there still holding HZ and wanting to sell some? Asking for a friend...

HORIZON (HZ) IS still running!

HOW-TO GUIDE:
https://medium.com/@Raf21/horizon-hz-a-how-to-guide-bda4e415819a

Nodes currently active:

lfm.knotwork.com
ufbsh.no-ip.org
157.245.160.26
192.214.140.198
157.245.138.247

Hi markm,

not to be snarky, but I believe VirWox could be a reason that decimals tend to be a bit of a problem when trying to create more than one currency using a decimal point.  In Nova Scotia, I'm sure you are used to using "." whereas over in French Canada it is common to use "," (comma). I found out up to 75 countries uses commas, with some not using decimal point or decimal comma seperators at all. For instance, Sierra Leonean Leones use "Cents" as a subdivision, just meaning one hundred cents make up one (ISO 4217) "SLL"... SLL happens to be used by the Paypal to Virwox "SLL" (Second Life Linden) trade which is a common way people get PayPal deposits onto an exchange (VirWox is a virtual currency exchange) for BTC, which they can exchange for their SLL. Perhaps the HORIZON network knows this since Stellar/IBM World Wire use ISO 4217 codes already. Therefore, whatever currency you created with a "decimal point" is likely "the" decimal point currency in HORIZON platform's mind.  I would assume HORIZON communicates with enough API to help relay info from IBM World Wire to Stellar.

Then again, I'm just a noob. Maybe try using a "," for other currencies to as the decimal point. If you want 0.0001 BTC/(any "currency" - money in circulation) try 0,0001.  If none else works, consider 100 stroops is a denomination of XLM and used on Horizon already as well since it communicates with both horizon.stellar.org and the testnet.stellar.org (or whatever the stellar or horizon testnet site is).

Maybe VirWox trading SLL as a virtual currency for "real life" currency such as EUR and USD as seen on virwox.com is the problem here.

The three latest virwox updates are pretty sporadic but with one around the time of some chaos within AXIOM splitting from the Milieu in part and HZ seemingly "abandoned" but kept alive as part of the Milieu maybe some of these VirWox changes and future actions mean something:

HZ can now be traded on the Stellar network.

See http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/

-MarkM-

Someone created a "Discord" for HORIZON, here is an invite link: https://discord.gg/CG4n5MQ

-MarkM-

Well I managed to make my minimalist change take effect (by killing and restarting my browser), only to discover that they are not relying just on preventing you from typing in decimals; there are also further checks so although my change let me type in some decimals for HZ price of an asset that itself has 8 decimals, I was on submission of the form told there was an error in the input.

So I don't think I am going to persevere with the change, in case there are all kinds of places checking this, like maybe it could check when creating blocks, or when transmitting transactions, or gosh knows where else.

I am just going to assume they must have good reasons for the restriction, and avoid making assets with 8 decimals in future even if the asset is intended to represent coins that normally, on their own blockchains, do have 8 decimals.

In the meantime this does mean cheap coins will run into problems more and more as their price falls toward the price of a HZ, and the HORIZON platform will cease to be useful for actually doing non-manual trading of them when they are worth less than a HZ.

For now what the heck folks can always go ahead and use the STELLAR platform instead for such assets if they want to use an automated market rather than just do manual trades with trusted partners by sending them something and being sent something in return.

(The spot markets are so far mostly used just as a way for folks to easily get a few HZ to pay fees with anyway, by trying to keep some small buy offers in place for each asset so when folks get their assets on the HORIZON platform they can sell one or a few for a few HZ to get them started; really most actual trading takes place manually, generally by consulting the current prices shown at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/latestrates.inc and adjusting for whatever markup or markdown the parties agree to and for any drift they feel may exist between the "latest rates" when they were calculated and the current state of the actual, possibly quite volatile, markets.)

A bit of a pity maybe for players who do not like the idea of having to commit ten STELLAR Lumens per trust line in order to trade on the STELLAR platform, but then again once you have committed that the actual transaction fees on the STELLAR network look like they could be a lot cheaper than the 1 HZ fee on HORIZON, depending of course how expensive a whole Lumen gets to be and how cheap a single HZ turns out to be.

I guess it is a bit of a pity for DeVCoin too since it means it will take longer for us to be able to get around to starting to try to get folks to actually buy DeVCoins in order to pay debts that are denominated in DeVCoins. (Currently because DeVCoins are so cheap compared to the size of the debts typically we just let folks pay in some other currency by looking up the current price in DeVCoins of the asset they want to pay with in the above-mentioned "Latest Rates" include-file, which has had the unfortunate result of allowing the vast amount of DeVCoin-denominated debt to not actually cause the price of DeVCoin to increase.)

-MarkM-

sorry, I can't remember off hand right now- the information does exist somewhere, though.
there were very lively discussions about decimals in the NXT community.

I was not an NXT core dev (no java), but I wrote a bunch of apps in python using the NXT API and I also issued a bunch of assets.
most of them testing assets on the Phoenix blockchain.

all too long ago to remember details- you can trawl the old NXT forum for info on this, I am sure the discussions are there, or you could ask on the ARDOR slack, the devs are still there, and also some old timers.

https://nxtforum.org
https://ardornxt.slack.com (invite should be on NXT forum or ARDOR forum, or in ARDOR thread here)

my personal recommendation would be to start with a fresh blockchain for your own purposes if it is feasible for you,
the code has matured considerably since then (HZ is very old codebase) and you won't have the ballast of HZ
- but maybe just continuing HZ blockchain could be a neat and lean way of doing it also, if you can keep it going

Does NXT have this weird thing about the decimals?

You do get warned when creating an asset that it is best to use 2 to 6 decimals, but it does not tell you WHY, and since normal bitcoin-tye coins all have 8 decimals I naturally used 8 for tokens representing such coins.

I am trying to decide what to do now; I could issue duplicate assets but with less decimals, or I could find out how to make my attempted change go into effect, or I could maybe even just start from scratch with a new blockchain with a fresh new clone of the latest NXT or somesuch code...

I am wondering whether just going ahead with my change would be a good idea or lead to compounding series of math errors or something.

The DISTRIBUTION of HZ was nice, the way anyone could get some when they started it just by running a node.

If I started from a fresh new empty blockchain the game would start with all the coins, which could have advantages but might not be viewed favourably by the players.

-MarkM-

Nice use case for an abandoned NXT clone!

I was involved with the other NXT clone that merged with HZ - forget the name right now, had a Phoenix logo (may have been called 'Phoenix', cant remember), but it was a community takeover of another NXT clone ICO exit scam, hence the name...
HZ itself was a shady deal, the lead guy (not dev) Pizpie is a slimy scamming weasel w/o any tech competence, and he took over another failed NXT clone (NHZ, New Horizon), renamed it to HZ and just tried to latch on to that creepy Bitnation scheme, but that seems to have evaporated too  
in any case, NXT is solid tech, and it is a cute move to use it for gaming stuff!

I tracked that "Fractions not allowed" problem all the way to html/ui/js/nrs.assetexchange.js

In there it sets the number of decimals for everything except quantity to 8 minus the number of decimals in the quantity.

That means it is only assets that have 8 decimals themselves that do not allow any decimals in the price-in-HZ field.

Of course most coins do have 8 decimals, so thgis glitch prevents most coins from having a price less than 1 HZ as well as preventing them from having a price per coin that has decimals in HZ.

Maybe the coder was thinking you are inputting the price per quantity rather than the price per unit for each unit of the given quantity or something like that.

However, I tried changing 8 minus decimals to just 8, and even after restarting the server nothing changed.

So it looks like maybe that .js script file is not actually loaded when a browser hits the page but, rather, is somehow cached or accumulated somewhere so that my new copy did not actually go into effect. Maybe some part of the build process to build the server bundles all those .js files into one place or some other such thing that means the actual .js file I modified is not live but needs to be compiled in or incorporated into something during the build process or something.

I did refresh my browser tab and log in again after restarting the server to try to ensure it was not my browser somehow retaining the unmodified .js script.

So my progress so far is I think I know what I need to change but I have not discovered how to make my change actually go into effect.

-MarkM-

Great, thanks!

I realised that because my dvcstable01.dvcnode.org server also runs my LFM.knotwork.com website, the HORIZON node on that machine is configured to announce itself as LFM.knotwork.com instead of as dvcstable01.dvcnode.org; and I am not sure whether that causes problems for folks who just add dvcstable01, dvcstable02 and dvcstable06 on the dvcnode.org domain, especially with dvcstable02 and dvcstable06 being offline nowadays.

By the way I have noticed that the buy and sell offers do not let you use fractions in the price (in HZ coins).

This is a big problem for coins such as DeVCoin (DVC) which probably tends to be cheaper than HZ is.

On DeVCoin's thread we are considering issuing a DeVCoin bounty to get that fixed.

It kind of seems likely to be dead simple to do, probably just removing the popup that pops up when you try to type a period (decimal point) or comma into the price field; but its been a few years now since I last had a java development environment set up and familiarity with how to build with it so the fact that even if I made the probably trivial change I would then have to build the thing means it might take me a while to ever get around to doing it myself.

I am thinking it is probably trivial because (1) you can send HZ to people using eight decimal places; and (2) HORIZON is a clone of NXT and I am pretty sure NXT lets you use fractions of a NXT in prices, though I do not actually have NXT installed anymore. (I looked at it back when choosing a platform, but chose HORIZON and STELLAR rather than NXT and Ripple because they were cheaper to use and because Ripple didn't even have a real client anymore as far as I could tell, becoming a centralised big-brother know-your-customer anti-terrorism pawn of the establishment whereas STELLAR you can actually use the way the original Ripple (whose name the new Ripple folks bought) was intended, that is, to trade arbitrary IOUs among friends. (Like, IOU dinner, you owe me five beers, she owes us a drive, or whatever arbitrary IOUs friends want to invent and trade amongst themselves.)

-MarkM-

I managed to sync my client. To help you:


1) Edit (or create) the file: %appdata%\Horizon\conf\nhz.properties

(for instance: C:\Users\__YOURUSERNAME__\AppData\Roaming\Horizon\conf\nhz.properties )

2) Add this:

nhz.defaultPeers=lfm.knotwork.com; nhz.woll-e.net; crossciv.no-ip.org; nhz.ydns.eu

3) Restart the client.

Quite some time ago, when I first tried to use the "Currencies" feature of HORIZON, I managed to create just a few currencies then after that no matter what I tried to name a currency the system always rejected it as already in use.

I thus continued inputting the coins and shares the game uses, and only just now have I finally gotten around to actually trying to use one of the currencies that I did manage to create.


I tried exchanges and offers, and they just do not seem to work. Each account is seeing only its own buy or sell inputs, none of anyone else's, no matching is happening.

So basically it looks like currencies are totally broken.

So I am now going to have to re-issue the things that I had managed to issue as currencies, making them as assets instead.

I suppose this is just as well actually since breaking up your holdings into separate categories, assets vs currencies, is a bit awkward anyway.

If players run a HORIZON node, it is a good idea to include at least dvcstable01.dvcnode.org, dvcstable2.dvcnode.org and dvcstable06.dvcnode.org as well known nodes, to ensure you manage to get onto the same network as the rest of the players. (It is unfortunately true that only one of those is actually on line right now but hopefully they will be coming back online eventually.)

The source code that I and most other players that I am away of run is available for download inside my http://LFM.knotwork.com site, and the pages I am building about assets, both those implemented on HORIZON and those implemented on STELLAR, are on my http://MakeMoney.knotwork.com site.

Pages of historical prices of assets are still those at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html (it calls them Open Transactions assets but we are migrating from Open Transactions to HORIZON and STELLAR).

Wiki pages about the game start at http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=galactic_milieu though I am not positive all the pages about the game can be reached following links from article to article; all the pages I authored are listed under my username on that wiki, which is knotwork.

Keep in mind that it is a game, and even maybe currently still somewhat closer to being a prototype for a game than an actual finished product game.

Basically the focus of development has been forced more and more into economics, using free open source components to weave together a multiverse whose economics might hopefully eventually enable the game to be able to finance development of such modifications and "glue" as might be ideally desired to make all the components work together more smoothly, and eventually to start serious work on a fully immersive virtual reality interface into the game multiverse.

-MarkM-

This is a  good old coin.

I can help in creating a new website.

I would like to know more about the project, as well as what happened to him. Who are the people who interfere with its development? Does the esteemed developer have a worthy team that is able to further develop the project? What further plans?

Can you tell us more about upcoming projects? I wanted to know more about white paper

I read the information above and it looks like a comprehensive project, I hope to invest it a little bit. A lot of potential is here for these project

Just to know - I created earlier a fork of horizon sources

https://github.com/ifinta/hz-source

Just to save this useful information...

thank you .

I posted some nodes here,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30640686

http://nhz.ydns.eu have an public wallet

Is there a Web Horizon wallet still available? if you can share the link to the web wallet, I'd truly appreciate that!

Is this a revival of an old coin?

Thanks in advance for the answer ...

Please revive the Hz coin
We love to this on exchange

Hey, Mark!

Any news regarding HZ takeover/revive?

I began using HORIZON for game currencies and assets, and was in midst of porting them over from Open Transactions when HORIZON's thread was locked and it was no longer lkisted on any exchanges that I know of.

For game purposes it is actually kind of ideal that the game is now the main user of the platform, as maybe it will make it less likely that folks will forget that these currencies and assets are part of or associated with a game.

I was one of the developers of DeVCoin, and had implemented the "big seven" galactic currencies before that, before any other altcoin except possibly namecoin; I implemented them by making for each of them a bitcoin client whose testnet support had been modified to run the new currency instead of the testnet, so that each nation or Corp could have a bitcoin client that could simply by setting a commandline switch be used for their own new currency.

Eventually, even with merged mining coming along, it was realised that securing a blockchain with Proof of Work is insanely expensive, so we migrated the currencies to Open Transactions; now we are migrating to HORIZON.

I also created GRouPcoin, initially as something to modify and play with to try out ways we might approach what we wanted for DeVCoin, but once DeVCoin was finalised we modified GRouPcoin back to a simple bitcoin-clone that just keeps minting 50 coins per block forever instead of having periodic halving. When we migrated the other galactic coins to Open Transactions we left GRouPcoin as a blockchain to serve as a kind of weather-vane or canary-in-the-mine to see whether, given merged mining, securing a proof of work chain might actually be feasible, so that if it turned out that it was we could migrate the other galactic currencies back to being blockchains; but so far it is still not looking good for GRouPcoin as a "secure" blockchain.

-MarkM-

Hi, @markm
is this  coin a old one? So what 's your role played in this coin project? a  bagholder or a developer,or  just a supporter?

The old ANN thread for HORIZON (HZ) was https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--823785 but it was locked.

As of this writing HZ is not listed on any exchanges as far as I know.

However the HORIZON network is still working and still in use, in particular it is in use by the Galactic Milieu.

As well as this new ANN thread, a Discussion thread for HORIZON (HZ) has been created at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2197970

There are a few little glitches that have been discovered in the course of actually using HORIZON, those and the fixing of them will be discussed in the discussion thread.

In particular it has been observed that after creating a few currencies it became impossible to create the remaining items the Milieu needed as currencies so it was necessary to create them in the form of assets instead.

Then when we attempted to transfer some quantities of assets using the eight decimals the assets had been defined as having, it was discovered that the system did not recognise the values as numbers; it turns out that somehow the client ignores or changes the locale you run it under and wants a comma instead of a period as decimal-separator.

Please do not clutter this thread with posts about such things, the discussion thread has been created for that purpose.

I see the old announcement thread has been vandalised as well as locked; so you might want to join my site http://LFM.knotwork.com/ for links and/or downloads of the coin clients and servers I actually use, including the HORIZON that I am actually using.

-MarkM-