[ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 34.

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Quote from: SockPuppetAccount on July 15, 2015, 04:52:21 PM

They will get enough buyers from people who are just desperate for a new toy and don't care.

That would be logical if they were selling single units, some people maybe even me would buy one just for the hell of it.

However with a 100 minimum order, that's going to be $120,000 and you'd expect people spending THAT much to do some sums, in which case it's not a toy it's a garbage disposal for your money

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The gridseeds price stayed firm for many moons. Only long after it was obsolete did the price dwindle. The "Black" because of it's specs was in for the long haul.

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Quote from: SockPuppetAccount on July 15, 2015, 04:52:21 PM

They will get enough buyers from people who are just desperate for a new toy and don't care. They'll mine LTC with them even if they aren't flying off the shelves. The writing was on the wall, no one was going to like the price right off the bat.

Fine by me. I sold all my ASICs since summer is upon us in the states. Hopefully by fall, LTC price stabilizes and Bitmain releases the S7 to give them competition. It would be perfect timing to stock up on new space heaters before the snow starts falling.

Wouldn't be better to buy in summer when prices are low and supply high and even if less efficient use them for heat come winter time and when summer comes build summer rigs?

For other just sha miners possibly. But with this miner it literally has no competition at release as far as dual miners at this level. Also they have the lowest watt scrypt by far.

So at first release it will have a premium as there is less of the chips, meaning less of the rigs out there. Over time it will drop most likely on price. But I suspect to see a premium for those who want to be one of first owners.

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They will get enough buyers from people who are just desperate for a new toy and don't care. They'll mine LTC with them even if they aren't flying off the shelves. The writing was on the wall, no one was going to like the price right off the bat.

Fine by me. I sold all my ASICs since summer is upon us in the states. Hopefully by fall, LTC price stabilizes and Bitmain releases the S7 to give them competition. It would be perfect timing to stock up on new space heaters before the snow starts falling.

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Performance-wise this is like an SP20 plus half of an A2 Terminator, roughly speaking.

You can get a used SP20 for what, under $400 now? And if there were 54 Mhs Scrypt options out there, I wouldn't pay more than around $275. This is with free power and a probably low 3% difficulty.

I'd be somewhat interested for around $650. But not interested at all if the price really is around $1300 (twice what it's worth, from my perspective).

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Definately a must have but not at that price. At the beginning of the year, maybe but litecoin split emminent price is $200-$300 too high. Awaiting other contenders unfortunately.

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I have limited free power (noise and heat restraints), and haven't even considered this miner since they unveiled the price. I'm just looking forward to the GekkoScience projects, and hopefully some good news about the S7.

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If I had to guess, I'd say they're trying to recoup as much of the R&D/wafer prices as quickly as possible. I can't say I blame them, given the un-certain nature of Bitcoin hardware in general, and how quickly companies can go bankrupt due to market conditions and tight cash-flow. That being said, their pricing should strictly reflect how many units they want to sell, not what other hardware is selling for. Everyone always mentions price wars with BMT as a possible scenario if priced reasonably for the market, but a price war is a conscientious decision by 2 parties, certainly not an eventuality. When SP-T and BMT kept dropping prices on their flagship home-miners, it was very likely due to the low coin price and fear that they would end up with excess stock of obsolete miners. SP-T mentioned that they sold their SP20's at a loss near the end. That isn't a marketing strategy due to price wars, it's called liquidation.

Anyone can price where they want, and how many units they sell will be directly tied to their asking price. At this price, demand will be very, very low. Hopefully it works out for Sfards, as I for one want to see them around for the long run.

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Quote from: Xian01 on July 15, 2015, 12:56:50 PM

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Quote from: jstefanop on July 15, 2015, 12:41:02 PM

Final specs and price:

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The miner is 1.72T sha-256, 54M scrypt, 970W power consumption. The price is RMB 8000 Yuan, namely 1290 USD.

Way overpriced for a miner that will produce a total of ~ 100-150USD profit after power cost and litecoin halving. Would take nearly a year to ROI lol. Even at half the price it would barely be worth it.

Yeah I could justify 400 MAYBE 500 max, but 1200$ no thanks Sfards, litecoin doesn't give me enough faith to throw so much more money in a mining machine like this.

I can't rationalize this pricing at all. Why would ANYONE want to purchase this at that pricing ? Major mining farms included.

It doesn't make any sense.

It's kinda a bummer. I was really hoping for a decent amount less. I am willing to pay a premium to get the scrypt miner as I want to do it again for fun. But I have limits in my mind.

It's hard to justify when I see the sha speed and that price. I really hope it goes lower and 1200 is not it. But guess we will see.

I could also see it coming out at first with a higher price. Limited amount makes where you can charge more for those who have to have day one. So we might see a drop after initial orders.

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Quote from: Xian01 on July 15, 2015, 12:56:50 PM

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Quote from: jstefanop on July 15, 2015, 12:41:02 PM

Final specs and price:

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The miner is 1.72T sha-256, 54M scrypt, 970W power consumption. The price is RMB 8000 Yuan, namely 1290 USD.

Way overpriced for a miner that will produce a total of ~ 100-150USD profit after power cost and litecoin halving. Would take nearly a year to ROI lol. Even at half the price it would barely be worth it.

Yeah I could justify 400 MAYBE 500 max, but 1200$ no thanks Sfards, litecoin doesn't give me enough faith to throw so much more money in a mining machine like this.

I can't rationalize this pricing at all. Why would ANYONE want to purchase this at that pricing ? Major mining farms included.

It doesn't make any sense.

Its been said many times before but not everyone pays the same electricity prices.

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Quote from: jstefanop on July 15, 2015, 12:41:02 PM

Final specs and price:

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The miner is 1.72T sha-256, 54M scrypt, 970W power consumption. The price is RMB 8000 Yuan, namely 1290 USD.

Way overpriced for a miner that will produce a total of ~ 100-150USD profit after power cost and litecoin halving. Would take nearly a year to ROI lol. Even at half the price it would barely be worth it.

Yeah I could justify 400 MAYBE 500 max, but 1200$ no thanks Sfards, litecoin doesn't give me enough faith to throw so much more money in a mining machine like this.

I can't rationalize this pricing at all. Why would ANYONE want to purchase this at that pricing ? Major mining farms included.

It doesn't make any sense.

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Final specs and price:

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The miner is 1.72T sha-256, 54M scrypt, 970W power consumption. The price is RMB 8000 Yuan, namely 1290 USD.

Way overpriced for a miner that will produce a total of ~ 100-150USD profit after power cost and litecoin halving. Would take nearly a year to ROI lol. Even at half the price it would barely be worth it.

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I got the price today, and the chance to order. They will only sell high scale, so that's probably why they do not post prices. Its an deal to deal price depending on order size. Only I can say, its not cheap and not for homeminers.
I would guess 100+ th farms only.
Clever, I do not know. Nice product- hell yes. Expensive - wrong site of 1000$ each including shipping.

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Quote from: Sfards on July 15, 2015, 05:13:48 AM

Please Be Careful！！！！

We only have one official SFARDS Skype account sfardsservice. If there is any other similar account such as ~~sfardsservice [ASIC market]~~ contacting you. Don’t listen to them and please double check the account you have talk with and make sure you add the right one

Pricing on SF100 single units please!?

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Quote from: Searing on July 14, 2015, 09:28:21 PM

yeah I agree...it will be either stable price of say $4.50 after halving ...ie LTC gained some converts who bought above $4.50 and due to halving now feel safe
to hold such and/or continue to mine LTC as such

or it will dump to 2 bucks and at that point LTC will prove it still is ONLY a speculative coin and bag holders like myself wait till next august 2016 or so for the BTC halving
and hope that LTC speculatively rides the BTC coat tails and then we dump our hoard then

see always room for 'denial' as a bag holder of any crypto in question ..its an art

Of course its purely a speculative coin. Noone really uses it for anything outside of speculative trading, hell even BTC is struggling w/ that, in the grand scheme of things.

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Quote from: DavieT1337 on July 12, 2015, 09:55:21 PM

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Quote from: DavieT1337 on July 12, 2015, 08:58:59 PM

whats the Price???

Were all waiting on this. There have been rumors but no official quote (I do not believe). Also it most likely depends also on size or order.

I see

Hopefully payable for Homeminers Roll Eyes

I wouldn't hold my breath the only way I see this being close to reasonable for home miners is if Litecoin drops super low and they aren't afraid of a price drop from bitmain.

yeah I agree...it will be either stable price of say $4.50 after halving ...ie LTC gained some converts who bought above $4.50 and due to halving now feel safe
to hold such and/or continue to mine LTC as such

or it will dump to 2 bucks and at that point LTC will prove it still is ONLY a speculative coin and bag holders like myself wait till next august 2016 or so for the BTC halving
and hope that LTC speculatively rides the BTC coat tails and then we dump our hoard then

see always room for 'denial' as a bag holder of any crypto in question ..its an art

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Quote from: J4bberwock on July 13, 2015, 04:12:01 AM

The board is an upgrade kit for the gridseed pods.

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Quote from: bigredbutton on July 13, 2015, 03:33:13 AM

^^^ Looks like a Gridseed case. Cheesy

I still have a bunch of my gridseed accessories. I look forward to updates J4bberwock. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a group buy thread. Cool

The board is an upgrade kit for the gridseed pods.

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^^^ Looks like a Gridseed case. Cheesy

I still have a bunch of my gridseed accessories. I look forward to updates J4bberwock. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a group buy thread. Cool

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