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Topic: [ANN] SpinAndDouble.io - A bitcoin game ! Red Or Black ? Let The Game Begin ! (Read 699 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
[Update 12/15/2017]

- Provable Fair System is up and operational.
- Maximum bet set to 1000$ per spin.
- House edge updated to 1%
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 10
Nice info.  I will learn how its schema and how its work progress. 
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.

how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.

Did you even read the update ? The Minimum roll was initially 10$ lowered to 5$ .. people said is to much. then it's 1$.

Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.


you should be thankful people post here
owners or not (usually owners are the most knowlegable about the games since they have been both playing AND running sites)
if you do not like people leaving negative comments here,you should delete the thread
and make one self moderated thread instead

He is just type of person who can accept other opinion, feedback, or even critics. He actually should learn to listen other opinion/feedback (both positive and negative) as a support for him to make his site better. Indeed it is hard to do it, but at least be patient and answer those negative feedback calmly instead of reply with anger.
As i have given feedbacks above about the site.It was really just the truth on what we have saw in there.If you are really a professional specially you are just starting on promoting your gambling site you should really welcome criticism and negative comments which i do see it s a normal things.Be thankful that people do give comments for you to be able to adjust on what are the things to be fixed on rather than on ranting.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.

how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.

Did you even read the update ? The Minimum roll was initially 10$ lowered to 5$ .. people said is to much. then it's 1$.

Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.


you should be thankful people post here
owners or not (usually owners are the most knowlegable about the games since they have been both playing AND running sites)
if you do not like people leaving negative comments here,you should delete the thread
and make one self moderated thread instead

He is just type of person who can accept other opinion, feedback, or even critics. He actually should learn to listen other opinion/feedback (both positive and negative) as a support for him to make his site better. Indeed it is hard to do it, but at least be patient and answer those negative feedback calmly instead of reply with anger.
staff
Activity: 3206
Merit: 575
Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
The bitcoin gambling community is trying to give you a lot of feedback's and ideas on how to improve your site in the long run, but having a casino with no house edge at all seems quite illogical as there is server and maintenance fees for hosting the site, it is quite hard to generate any profits for a casino without a house edge.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1107
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.

how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.

Did you even read the update ? The Minimum roll was initially 10$ lowered to 5$ .. people said is to much. then it's 1$.

Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.


you should be thankful people post here
owners or not (usually owners are the most knowlegable about the games since they have been both playing AND running sites)
if you do not like people leaving negative comments here,you should delete the thread
and make one self moderated thread instead
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
And another unFortune Jack promoter...
You probably missed this one:
~snip~
One question . How much you pay your "slaves" to post negative feedback to other gambling websites ?
Do you have proof for your lies?
Somehow I missed your thread but I will leave my feedback

There is no moderator to check out those "slaves" paid to post negative feedback ?
Unfortunately obvious scams are not moderated.

Speaking of negative feedback, can you quote me negative part? I only quoted your words and my feedback is very positive  Cheesy


 obvious scam ? Better go to your unFortune Jack topic and see users accusing them for scam. How much they pay you to be a scam slave ?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
And another unFortune Jack promoter...
You probably missed this one:
~snip~
One question . How much you pay your "slaves" to post negative feedback to other gambling websites ?
Do you have proof for your lies?
Somehow I missed your thread but I will leave my feedback

There is no moderator to check out those "slaves" paid to post negative feedback ?
Unfortunately obvious scams are not moderated.

Speaking of negative feedback, can you quote me negative part? I only quoted your words and my feedback is very positive  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
~snip~
Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.
Your game is excellent!
I like the way how you handle max bet limit...
As for the maximum bet, there is none.
...because
Nobody will bet 20 BTC. So nobody will exceed our max bet .
I also like that you are allowing deposits while:
I think you are very stupid.
Finally someone with some IQ.


And another unFortune Jack promoter... There is no moderator to check out those "slaves" paid to post negative feedback ?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
~snip~
Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.
Your game is excellent!
I like the way how you handle max bet limit...
As for the maximum bet, there is none.
...because
Nobody will bet 20 BTC. So nobody will exceed our max bet .
I also like that you are allowing deposits while:
I think you are very stupid.
Finally someone with some IQ.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.

how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.

Did you even read the update ? The Minimum roll was initially 10$ lowered to 5$ .. people said is to much. then it's 1$.

Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.

Thats not a good way of approach on people here on this forum and lastly can you show that Fortunejack is accused of fraud? You cant make any claims without any proofs besides this is a forum people will post or make comments as they like and now you are reacting non-professionally. We are just asking things on here and now you do say such things which isnt really related on your site.Answer it first before you would say anything among other things.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.

how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.

Did you even read the update ? The Minimum roll was initially 10$ lowered to 5$ .. people said is to much. then it's 1$.

Can you all dice,casino,faucets owners stop posting here ?Funny how those guys promoting unFortune Jack are accused of fraud and they are still allowed to post here.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
I get it why there is no need for house edge, its because you are basically betting against him. The problem with this is that if someone programs a bot with their API (if they ever release one), it will spam thousands of bets and the net win result will be basically 50/50 since as spins -> infinity then the wins of red or black are either.

However if its just for a few bets then it should be fine for now at least. Since this site just launched a few hours ago.

However the no provably fair issue is a huge deal breaker. You need to prove the bets or else this is another Yobit dice type of site. Where its impossible to tell if you lost by bad luck or were cheated.

Another issue is with the max bet. You need to use risk according to your in house capital so you don't end up going insolvent.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
Crazy how a site owner speaks rough to their potential players and I doubt you know what is the house edge and the effect of it. If you don't have house edge you will not win in the long run specially if there is no max bet. Uhm wait, there is no max bet? Can you provide here proof on how much bankroll you have? What if someone bet 100btc, will you be able to pay it? Doubt it

Owner is right here, he said no one will exceed their max bet. Obviously it is just too good to be true if a new site claims that they have no max bet. Owner must have thousands btc or even more, but I doubt it. If he owns that much then I think he could make a better site.
hero member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 546
Monday Hit Me Every week
how do you say that that is Fair? I think this is a very risk who is not provably fair on you're a system, and Minimum roll $ 1 this is crazy for starting in the new gambling. better than hyip if you want to stolen fund, you must be fixed the most common problems it be better.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 258
Crazy how a site owner speaks rough to their potential players and I doubt you know what is the house edge and the effect of it. If you don't have house edge you will not win in the long run specially if there is no max bet. Uhm wait, there is no max bet? Can you provide here proof on how much bankroll you have? What if someone bet 100btc, will you be able to pay it? Doubt it
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 100
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Just checked out your site. Maybe you could convince me ifthe provable fair system is already availble. For the mean time I will stay in Freebitco.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Not provably fair
No house edge
No max bet


It is just WOW..
Just checked the site and looked at the latest win. There are some big wins already, are they for real? Or just a fake stats to attract new users? I doubt people will out big money on this site for above reasons. I myself will not even want to register on this site as it sounds fishy. I'll wait till they add provably fair system and signing a message of their hot wallet which seems to have unlimited btc LOL

You are right.  I suggest all users to avoid SpinAndDouble.

At least until they release provably fair verification tool, prove solvency and explain how their are winning money if their 50/50 claim is true.

Not provably fair
No house edge
No max bet


It is just WOW..
Just checked the site and looked at the latest win. There are some big wins already, are they for real? Or just a fake stats to attract new users? I doubt people will out big money on this site for above reasons. I myself will not even want to register on this site as it sounds fishy. I'll wait till they add provably fair system and signing a message of their hot wallet which seems to have unlimited btc LOL

You are right.  I suggest all users to avoid SpinAndDouble.

At least until they release provably fair verification tool, prove solvency and explain how their are winning money if their 50/50 claim is true.

No offence but I think you are very stupid.
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explain how their are winning money if their 50/50 claim is true.

If you bet and lose we win money. Please go back to your dice gambling website. Why I even bother?....

FAQ updated.
We will post new Updates about provably fair verification tool in 4-5 days.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1002
Not provably fair
No house edge
No max bet


It is just WOW..
Just checked the site and looked at the latest win. There are some big wins already, are they for real? Or just a fake stats to attract new users? I doubt people will out big money on this site for above reasons. I myself will not even want to register on this site as it sounds fishy. I'll wait till they add provably fair system and signing a message of their hot wallet which seems to have unlimited btc LOL

You are right.  I suggest all users to avoid SpinAndDouble.

At least until they release provably fair verification tool, prove solvency and explain how their are winning money if their 50/50 claim is true.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
If there is no house edge then the house will always lose if you have enough to keep doubling your bet untill you win. This gambling site sounds bogus to me, it's probably the higher the bet the less the percentage in the programming otherwise the house would go tilt within a day.

Yes, i try to rip off people for 1$ . What's so hard to understand ? You bet 10$ ,if you win you get 20$ ,you lose you have -10$

Every bet you make has a certain probability of winning or losing. If you bet on the flip of a coin, the probability of heads or tails is 50-50. This would be an even money bet. If you bet a dollar and was paid a dollar when you won, you would be paid TRUE ODDS. I love how those casino , faucets, dice games ,some creepy thing game owners are posting here.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 161
If there is no house edge then the house will always lose if you have enough to keep doubling your bet untill you win. This gambling site sounds bogus to me, it's probably the higher the bet the less the percentage in the programming otherwise the house would go tilt within a day.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
Unfortunately we dont have a tool for provably fair . We will start working on it in the next couple of days. As for the maximum bet, there is none.

how can your system be provably fair if the odds on a 2x game is 50%
this means that your game has no house edge i.e. you are making money...some other different way
this is one of the multitude of the scripts very popular past couple of years,if I'm not mistaken
and yeah,nobody would bet on your site untill you get some sort of a bet verifier


This is the thing on my mind to which it doesnt have an house edge which i dont either believe that they would sustain this system without edge.How the owner would able to make money on each roll? This is just like a hi-lo game but in another sense because we would able to visualize the possible results but mind boggling regarding on the fairness on every roll.Just like being asked i would like to know how rolls being verified that it is a fair one and also 0% house edge will sure be changed?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Is there a give away promotion for starters?

Not for the moment.


As for the maximum bet, there is none.

So if someone places a Ƀ 20 bet and wins you'll be able to pay out their winnings? For that and the reasons others have mentioned I'm sure you can see why people are skeptical.

It's a new website. People are skeptical like you said. Nobody will bet 20 BTC. So nobody will exceed our max bet .

Not provably fair
No house edge
No max bet


It is just WOW..
Just checked the site and looked at the latest win. There are some big wins already, are they for real? Or just a fake stats to attract new users? I doubt people will out big money on this site for above reasons. I myself will not even want to register on this site as it sounds fishy. I'll wait till they add provably fair system and signing a message of their hot wallet which seems to have unlimited btc LOL

Provably fair system will be available in the next few days.
Max bet ? I dont think you can exceed our max bet because you cant afford to bet 5$. Wink
House edge ? It's like a flip of the coin . 50/50
LE : Changed the minimum spin cost to 1$ maybe now you can afford to bet.

pick only red and black i think this is similar just like playing roulette but only just more simple because only 2 options bets available and i have recently make an account at there to testing your site but apparently there was no faucet options at there and minimum amount to bets 0.0004 still quite high to me

So you want to bet 1$ and withdraw 2$ ?...
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1006
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
pick only red and black i think this is similar just like playing roulette but only just more simple because only 2 options bets available and i have recently make an account at there to testing your site but apparently there was no faucet options at there and minimum amount to bets 0.0004 still quite high to me
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
Not provably fair
No house edge
No max bet


It is just WOW..
Just checked the site and looked at the latest win. There are some big wins already, are they for real? Or just a fake stats to attract new users? I doubt people will out big money on this site for above reasons. I myself will not even want to register on this site as it sounds fishy. I'll wait till they add provably fair system and signing a message of their hot wallet which seems to have unlimited btc LOL
sr. member
Activity: 528
Merit: 368
As for the maximum bet, there is none.

So if someone places a Ƀ 20 bet and wins you'll be able to pay out their winnings? For that and the reasons others have mentioned I'm sure you can see why people are skeptical.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Is there a give away promotion for starters?
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1107
Unfortunately we dont have a tool for provably fair . We will start working on it in the next couple of days. As for the maximum bet, there is none.

how can your system be provably fair if the odds on a 2x game is 50%
this means that your game has no house edge i.e. you are making money...some other different way
this is one of the multitude of the scripts very popular past couple of years,if I'm not mistaken
and yeah,nobody would bet on your site untill you get some sort of a bet verifier

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Unfortunately we dont have a tool for provably fair . We will start working on it in the next couple of days. As for the maximum bet, there is none.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
How about the fairness? Do you have provably fair system on this game? I cant find here and on your site as well. You only say it is fair because it is 50:50 chance to win. That's not how fairness works, you should have bet verifier so players wont feel of being cheated if they lose the bets.
For a new site, you should lower the minimum bet. $10 is just too high for some gamblers, unless you are trying to get big gamblers only. How about the max bet allowed? You forget mention about it.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Hello friends,

I am happy to introduce you to a new Bitcoin based game. https://SpinAndDouble.io/.


A game based on Ashley Revell story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCdBsOIKYA !
What it would be ? Red Or Black ? Spin And Double !

A Bitcoin Game that is Fair
It’s very important to ensure that the systems remain fair to all users, that's why you have a 50/50 chance to win.

FAQ
Q.What is the withdrawal process time ?
A.We process withdrawals at least once a day.

Q.Can I play as soon as I deposit?
A.Your deposit will be credited after one network confirmation. Deposits made from an exchange are typically slower than deposits made from a cryptocurrency wallet.

Q.What is the minimum spin costs?
A.1$ equivalent in Bitcoin. BitPay rate.(We will change the minimum bet back to 5$ when provably fair system is up)

Q.What is the minimum withdraw amount?
A.5$

Q.Can I use altcoins?
A.No, we only accept Bitcoin

Q.Do I need to pay transaction fees when I withdraw coins?
A.Yes.

Q.What is the win percentage ?
A.Players have a 50% chance of winning

Q.Can I play for free?
A.You can play the demo without registering.

Q.Can I have multiple accounts?
A.Yes.

Q.Can I request a refund?
A.No. All bets are final and cannot be refunded.

Q.How can I contact you?
A.Use our live chat feature.

Q.Do you have provably fair system ?
A.We are working on it.

Q.Explain how you are winning money if 50/50 claim is true.
A.Let's say you bet 10$ and win, you get 20$. If you lose you have -10$. (explanation for low IQ users that posted here)
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