Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 496. (Read 1260354 times)

Absolutely, sorry to break the rules. Spondoolies is based in Israel so i thought it polite to ask potentially difficult questions in hebrew. I see politeness is not highly regarded here so i will ask in english from now on.>>>

Spondoolies,
You were unable to meet your promises of hardware performance and promised more info in two days; that info has not been supplied. Now you say you will ship and then provide info, that's not good enough, you need to tell purchasers how bad/good the performance and efficiency degradation is before you ship and give an opportunity to refund or you are no better than any of the other pre-order scams.


EDIT: I understand running a new business is difficult and when things dont work out its even tougher. You will always do better by being upfront and communicating promptly. keep up your efforts and communicate more, it would be nice to see you succeed.

Okay, must have been for impact... and that explains why the translation was perfect in reverse. 

The source was English, he/she used google translate to Hebrew for some reasons.

Google translate version:

Could you please use English if posting in this section. If English is difficult for you, please post with both your original language and at the very least a google translate copy (it seems Google translate does a fine job with Hebrew).

האם אתה הולך לתת ללקוחות את ההזדמנות כדי לבטל והחזר לפני המשלוח מאז החומרה היא לא ממש עד spec. אם אתה משלוח השבוע אנחנו צריכים לדעת ביצועים בפועל עכשיו.

As guy already wrote, things should be clearer within the next 4 days.

He might not be able to give reliable power consumption and speed estimates as the firmware should still be tweaked by Zvisha for optimum performance under the changed circumstances.

Anyway, I am sure we will see some news once the first units ship, and I for one will be reporting on the hashrate and performance (that I can observe from the pool page).

As I already wrote, please be patient. We'll start to ship the SP30s this week and release the information regarding current batches, next batches and compensation.

Guy

...or in plain English...:

..."Its been more than a few days. What are you hiding..." ...

Cheers,

ZiG

I see a lot of posts with varying degrees of correct and incorrect electrical advice

Please realize these miners are built to be hosted in an industrial environment. Before you plug these in consult an electrician and make sure to get permits/inspection for any work done.

I you dont follow my advice and burn your house down (quite probable) your insurance will be void when they find out how the fire started (fact)

These are not home miners like bitmain are, they really need to be in a data centre. A cost you must have calculated on your pre-purchase ROI analysis.

שלה כבר יותר מכמה ימים. מה אתה מסתיר?

myself in USA I simply have 1 220v circuit wired with 12avg wire rated at 20 amps with a 20 amp 220v double pole breaker and of course the 220v plug at the wall...to do so
into an ISOBAR Euro4 version surge protector 4 volt....here off amazon..I have 3 total 220v plugs/circuits and an isobar euro4 on each one...

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-EURO-4-International-Protector/dp/B00006HZ4M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1406427314&sr=8-3&keywords=euro+4

it is cheaper then a PDU and works for my needs...

this was easy to do because in my case it is in the bsmt near the panel..so what the heck overkill....1 power supply of the 2 on the sp30 will be plugged
into the above 20amp breaker/20 amp socket/indv 220v euro4 isobar for each 20amp line/breaker (again this model eruo4 at 220v because the sp30 comes
with cords that work for this)

YOU DO need however to purchase the 220v cord from the power outlet to the euro4 isobar..(it has interchangeable cords) the euro4 comes with the
same type of cord as the sp30 miners will come with...not the one that goes from the 220v isobar to the plug in the wall..you need to match (see below)

below is cords that come with the sp30 and the isobar euro4 above (at least the end that does not plug into the sp30 power supply that can be a different type)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MG9F78/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

below here is the 3 220v cords from the isobar4 4 surge protector to the plug on the wall...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093WFT5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

so yeah way over kill but....should work fine 3 circuits using 3 euro4 isobars...1 for each power supply on the sp30 and 1 for the KNC Titan if/when it comes

again overkill but what the heck...as to the tripplite isobars ...well they have saved my butt before so better safe then sorry...
and again cheaper then a PDU

(silly hobby I could have got a bass boat and it probably would have sunk....with my luck anyway..go figure....toys..toys...toys...)

Searing

Thanks for all your replies. Yes that's correct, I have got 230v 50Hz mains socket.
In my circuit breaker box, there are few circuit breakers:
For all house Lights                6A On
Sockets in the kitchen          32A On
Socket for the cooker/oven   32A On
Sockets for bedrooms           32A On
Spare                                32A Off


Does it mean that for my bedroom sockets Total Wattage Capacity is 32 amps x 250 volts = 8,000 watts (50Hz)?

I would need to use bedroom sockets as kitchen sockets are too far away.
There is only my PC (between 500-800 Watt) and 2 table lights plugged in to bedroom sockets. Ocasionally I also use these sockets for kettle, hairdryer or vacuum cleaner.
If above calculation of 8000 Watt is correct I would have spare at least 6000 Watt, if I use all of the above appliances/devices at once.

It says that SP30's nominal power consumption is 2500 Watt So I guess I could have enough amperage to plug in up to 2 SP30s at once?

True. And installing another 240v line isn't as expensive as you might think. The bigger concern is really space and cooling ... and security if you get that far.

That's all good and nice for America with 120V or so, but in the civilized world we use something else
He asked if it would work with "230v 50Hz mains socket".

Look for a 30AMP outlet. You will usually find this in the kitchen around the stove and various enclaves where you plug in toasters and microwaves. This is where you can run an SP30 via heaviest duty extension cord if you don't want it competing with the blender noise or coffee grinder noise:

15-amp Circuit
Total Wattage Capacity: 15 amps x 120 volts = 1,800 watts  
Safe Wattage Capacity: 1,800 watts x 80% = 1,440 watts
Safe Amperage Capacity: 15 amps x 80% = 12 amps

20-amp Circuit

Total Wattage Capacity: 20 amps x 120 volts = 2,400 watts  
Safe Wattage Capacity: 2,400 watts x 80% = 1,920 watts
Safe Amperage Capacity: 20 amps x 80% = 16 amps

30-amp Circuit

Total Wattage Capacity: 30 amps x 120 volts = 3,600 watts
Safe Wattage Capacity: 3,600 watts x 80% = 2,880 watts
Safe Amperage Capacity: 30 amps x 80% = 24 amps

Talk to a local electrician or talk to a friend of a friend who is one. This is not something you buy on eBay and do yourself. If you have a 16A breaker for all the outlets in your sleeping room you can use 12.8A of it (to stay within the 80% of the rating). If you need more than that, you could plugin the second power supply/cable in another room.

How much current the SP30 will pull will be clear by next week I guess. At 1200W the Murata PSU is rated 8A @ 200V, there are two.


These seem about right, but you need to add a bit of space for the handles of the PSUs and cabling. About 580mm total length, rest seems right. Add lots of space for air flow, do not obstruct front and back. And expect noise.
 

Ok so also, I would need to buy separate circuit breakers for each SP30?
Would you have any good recommendation from e-bay maybe?
I appreciate your help. I'm not very electric savvy

You need to know the amperage of the circuit breaker where you connect the SP30 to, or each of the power supplies. Not the main breaker.

Could sign this. Didn't follow the rules.... anybody knows a cheap divorce lawyer....

Thanks a lot for clearing this out for me :-)

I have just peeked into my fuse box and it says that the circuit breaker for the mains sockets is 32A.

How many SP30s do you think I could plug in before the fuse goes off?? lol