Topic: [ANN] Talleo (TLO) CryptoNight Turtle Variant 2 (Read 2033 times)

Website/wallet down (?)

If both balances show 0.00 TLO even though there should be non-zero balance, that means your account got blocked due to excessive memory usage... Mining directly to webwallet account can cause the daemon to run out of memory. I've increased the memory limit to 768 MB after every PHP upgrade, but that is just a temporary fix. At highest, the webwallet daemon (walletd) has used over 20 GB of memory and the server only has 16 GB of physical memory. Same host runs a lot more than just the daemon for webwallet, so when it runs out of swap space and crashes, it's quite bad for the whole network of Talleo nodes. We have one backup node, but it doesn't run all the same code, just the P2P daemon (Talleod).

Please fix the web wallet.
Since a couple of weeks it always shows 0 for Available and Locked balance.

There will be mandatory update around April 1st, 2021 to update list of seed nodes. We moved one of the seed nodes to better data center and hosting provider. The current seed nodes, as of March 4th 2021, are located in Hetzner data centers in Tuusula, Finland and Falkenstein, Germany.

During the server upgrades we also moved the official pool to more powerful server. This resulted in IP address of the mining pool to change. New server allows us to scale up with need better as we can add up to 16 virtual cores. Currently the server is configured for 4 virtual cores.

I am accompanying Talleo in 2020, on October 22, 2020, it made another year of Talleo on the market and being traded on C-Patex as promised. Today in the exchange there are pairs with bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin and dogecoin    BTC

Tomorrow they will regret not having traded or mined Talleo. I'm accumulating more and more coins. Let's Go 

I don't need to go to my mom, she comes to me... "Possible Scam" doesn't mean definite scam... ScamAdviser writes in the reasons that Talleo doesn't have any reviews on known sites and that reduces the rating.  They reduced the rating by 10 points because of some negative comments on social media, but that happens to a lot of legit cryptocurrency projects, because some community members mistakenly think they can overrule decisions made by development team or take over the administration of the cryptocurrency. If they want to make a better cryptocurrency, they should fork the codebase and make up own name for the currency. That's how open-source development should work.

I still have about 15 times the number of posts and comments than you... More people like you try to discredit me, better my activity level goes...

The reason why I don't have huge number of posts here in Bitcoin Forum is because I focus on what is important and that is making the code for Talleo better by adding new features and fixing issues inherited from code we have forked from. I leave most of the marketing to the community as that means we get unbiased reviews of the code and overall quality instead of worthless empty words that most marketing companies like to use but have nothing whatsoever to do with what Talleo is, and are unintelligible to common people... That is also why we don't have long list of features in our roadmap... We add features we can actually implement, then take whatever time we need to perfect them based on community feedback.

Our first team leader could write code, but he did take shortcuts and didn't actually make sure the code worked and was legal in regards to copyrights. He was sued for DMCA violation, but the project itself was saved due to me contacting GitHub and representative of the copyright holder and promising that any errors will be fixed as soon as GitHub re-enabled our repositories. This is the same team leader that attempted exit scam by selling most of the coins he did hold, but rest of the team did take over maintaining the code and seed nodes.

The previous team leader (number 2 out of 3) had background in marketing, but he knew next to nothing about coding, so he made bad decisions about what direction the coin development should go for... He ended up switching to code base that was too hard to work with and ended up wasting several months of valuable time. Rest of the team did stay on the current code base and rebranded it as Talleo. Most of the community did switch to Talleo and will continue supporting it no matter how many exchanges we are listed on...

I have background in chemistry, psychology and business administration. My mother has degree in law. I might not have background in professional programming, but as a hobby I have gathered over 35 years experience. I'm still learning a lot of things, but at least I can write software that does what it is supposed to do.

Yes go to your mom..., EVEN your site rating says "POSSIBLE SCAM" so prove otherwise.

Your account TOO has quite low number of posts here on Bitcoin forum soooo..... Mr. Legend, if I'm a troll then you are a scammer.

Our Discord server has 86 users, out of which 4 are definitely bots.

As for being "sell and run", I'm still around unlike the two previous team leaders... In return, you can try to prove you're not just a troll... Your account has quite low number of posts here on Bitcoin forum.

Even if I can't delete your comments, I can still report them to moderators or keep them for amusement purposes.

You really think you are running a real company !!!! This is so funny OMG lol


And you think you have a community !!!! It's getting funnier lol Yeah right, your community of three people? 

This is a scam project, even the site shows that with a rating of 45 

Be careful with this scam, the developer is only looking for you to buy sh*coins, it's a typical sell and run scam, prove otherwise.

Best of all, you can't delete these comments

Everyone is entitled to own opinion, but opinions are not same thing as facts... If you think we didn't market Talleo, then you were just not in our target audience... Without any marketing there would not be two other projects that have reused parts of Talleo code.

I have every right to be rude if it is to protect the community from single person with disruptive attitude or behavior... There is still people on official Talleo Discord and Telegram chats that think I'm polite towards people who have earned my respect.

Claiming that Talleo has no exchanges is just without any base, as Talleo is listed on one exchange and is in consideration for listing on two other exchanges. Because exchanges demand that coin teams don't announce anything before the exchange makes their own announcement, I can't tell any specifics that have not been already mentioned on official Discord and Telegram chats.

This has to be one of the worst projects in the history of cryptocurrencies (the lead developer will be known only for this), without exchanges, without news (good news not useless news aka forum), without marketing, but above all with a rude person without common sense. For those who invested, it was a loss from the start.  

KuangEx claims to be headquartered in Ireland, but the origin of the exchange is obviously in Hong Kong (Kuang as a word is of Chinese origin) ... The terms of use also include geographical errors, like New South Wales being in United Kingdom, even though it is in Australia.

So called Section 230 (of Communications Decency Act) protects social media sites and chatroom administrators from liability from third-party content, but we are required to warn our users about sites that contain obvious errors or warning signs about potential dangers.

As Talleo is Finnish company, we are also required to follow Finnish (and indirectly EU legislation) which is stricter than US legislation. There is no equivalent of Section 230 in Finnish legislation, and as such we are required to remove and limit any content that is written by person who is unaware of possible consequences of his or her writing. In Finnish law the fact that user is unaware of the contents of the law is no valid excuse to break the law.

I never spoke about crex, it was kuangex. This exchange doesn’t have any listing fee and have volume and withdrawal is also instant.

Anyone can recommend exchanges that are not known to be scams... Out of every 10 exchanges, there is usually 9 likely shady ones. We use ScamAdviser to check if the exchange has negative reviews or any other warning signs. A lot of people try to recommend same exchanges over and over, even though I have already said that the exchange is known to have issues. If the exchange is relatively new (less than a year old), it makes sense to wait until the exchange is older to see if there will be any negative reviews.

Crex24 is one of the shady exchanges that has been suggested by many users. It is known to list coins that are worth so little that nobody wants to buy them and the exchange rate is a lot less than 1 satoshi. Crex24 is currently listing coins that win week long voting, but the votes have to be bought using small list of cryptocurrencies. They also give some free votes to active users. Most of the "coins" they have so far added for voting are ERC20 tokens that already have been listed on other exchanges and are listed on CoinMarketCap.

What comes to using premine for exchange listings, we will use the premine when value of TLO is high enough to cover exchange listings... Currently TLO is not worth enough so that full premine would cover listing fee for even small exchange.

For C-PatEx, I did pay half of the listing fee from my own personal funds and the other half was paid by one of the community members.

I remove or ban users from Discord, who insist our judgement of if some exchange is shady or not is unjustified. Ban will last unspecified time, but is never permanent. Anyone who gets removed, but not banned, is free to rejoin the server, but can get banned if tries to suggest more shady exchanges.

I don't remove users from Discord or Telegram just for fun, it's to avoid people flooding the server with comments that have no value to other users.

Yes, this Mika man is very grumpy and does not listen to the community, he is also the typical blind CEO who will do everything possible not to move his company forward.

He deletes your account or accounts of people who give simple suggestions and deletes them meaninglessly thinking that everyone is a scammer and on the other hand asks for donations from the community (now he's asking for TRX) which is very incongruous and even more so if there was a premine of millions of TLO, which makes me think that he's actually the scammer.

I saw your message and it's legitimate and it's a shame Mika does that kind of thing, you better stay away from this "project".

Hi I just posted about listing on a new exchange and the owner of this coin removed me from discord.
The exchange which i recommenced, listed most of the coins free and most of them are pico algo.
Not sure what’s wrong with the discord channel owner
Why you running the communtity if we can’t even recommend listing on a free exchange

Ok, it is always advisable to check logs or do some tests after system updates. 

We changed from sendmail to postfix, because sendmail did reset config every time Ubuntu released a newer version... There is similar problem with postfix that systemd doesn't always restart postfix after upgrade... I did re-enable both postfix and spamassassin startup scripts in systemd.

Now works. Thanks

If you send an e-mail to [email protected], I can check the logs of mail server for any errors. Sending mail to [email protected] will fail if the mail daemon has been shutdown due to package upgrade.

Since a few days I can't log in anymore to the web wallet because I do not receive the email with auth code. 

Talleo has been added to coinpaprika: https://coinpaprika.com/coin/tlo-talleo/

I have added API documentation of Talleo to https://wiki.talleo.org/. It contains all the supported API methods inherited from Bytecoin 2 and new API methods and parameters added after the initial fork.

Added links to Publish0x blog, and Steemit and Hive communities.

It's a good initiative taken by the project team as the new version can work better and helpful to develop the platform.

Nobody likes downtime, but Python in 16.04 was too old and third-party packages had version conflicts, so our only choice was to take the server down and upgrade to 18.04...

We promised we start integrations in March and so far we have initial version of Discord integration running and we plan to implement Telegram integrations later.

Basically we allow sending coins between Discord users using just their Discord user name... Users can withdraw coins to external wallets by registering their wallet address with the bot. When registering with the bot, bot will reply with address for deposits from external wallets.

The code is based on generic CryptoNote Discord tipbot with small modifications to support more recent wallet daemon API and to adjust the decimal count when displaying messages. Like most of the code we use, the source code is available on GitHub.

Thanks for information. It's ok now.

Yes. We had to reinstall Linux on the server... Ubuntu 16.04 didn't have all the packages we need for development, so we installed 18.04. PHP and curl were disabled during the upgrade and had to be manually re-enabled.

today web wallet is not working

Talleo is now listed on C-PatEx... We also have official subreddit. CoinGecko and coinlib.io have added Talleo.

We are waiting for C-PatEx (Crypto/Cripto Patagonia Exchange) to list Talleo after winning the voting by collecting biggest amount of LTC. We know C-PatEx has quite a low volume, but it is still suitable as first exchange. After the exchange has finished listing Talleo, we are planning on seeking partners who are willing to include Talleo payments in their websites. We think low transaction fees and 60 second block target time of Talleo makes it good candidate as payment method on online services. As average, confirming transactions should take average of 10 minutes if absolute minimum of 10 confirmations is required.

We have 100000 TLO bounty for any tweet or social media post that results in listing Talleo on other exchanges not listed as possible scam or with non-resolved deposit, withdrawal or trading issues, including TradeOgre. All exchanges must implement minimum trading limit to be eligible for the bounty.

SRBMiner-Multi 0.3.1 has partial support for Talleo's algorithm... CPU mining has low performance on some CPUs. I don't have AMD/ATi graphics card, so I can't test the GPU performance.

Latest xmrig (v5.5.0) added support for Talleo's algorithm (cn-pico/tlo) and automatic algorithm negotiation for tlo-pool.raasu.org ...

No miner has built-in support for the algorithm Talleo uses... We will update the list of supported miners when we have verified that the support has been correctly added... The algorithm is not totally new variant of CryptoNight Turtle... It is one of the six variants with 256 kB scratchpad added by TurtleCoin developers. We selected the variant because it has better memory utilization than the one TurtleCoin used previously.

Can I mine this with the SRBMiner?
Or it's a totally new variant of Cryptonight-turtle algo?

Talleo has launched main net successfully. Old wallets from test net need to be recreated from mnemonic seed or private keys. All pool payouts of at least 1.00 TLO have been transferred to main net wallets with same address as used in test net.

Currently we have planned to launch the main net on December 1st at 00:00 UTC... It takes about 10 minutes to fully switch all the services to main net. All users previously connected to testnet must delete the blockchain files and start the new daemon after the main net is fully operational. Starting the daemon too early can cause the daemon to sync on wrong chain. New binaries will be released during November 30th on both official Talleo FTP server and GitHub repositories.

After all services are fully operational, we will start the previously announced swap from Bittorium... For each 0.10 BTOR sent user will get 0.01 TLO, amounts will be rounded upward to closest multiple of 0.01 TLO. Maximum swappable amount in one transaction is 1 million BTOR.

We have launched official pool at https://pool.talleo.org.

Other pools can be added to pool list after we have verified they are using correct hashing algorithm and are paying out the correct amount... Pool fee of third-party pools is not restricted to any maximum value, but it must match what the pool front-end advertises.

Correct algorithm is "cryptonight-turtle" with number "2" as second parameter when using "turtlecoin-multi-hashing" from https://github.com/turtlecoin/node8-multi-hashing/.

Example:

When I did the original plans, premine was about 3.33% for main net... That wasn't OK with the other team members, because they thought it dropped the block reward too low. This is because block reward is tied to many parameters, including total supply, premine, emission rate (TLO/h) and target time (time between two consecutive blocks).

UPDATE: We dediced we increase the total supply to 300M, which brings the premine to 5%...

What project needs is not about total premine coin but the community and development. Even if you dropped the emission to the lowest, some people would still feel bad because of your premine. Since it has not moved to the mainnet, you have time to make it better.
like reducing the premine to 4% or around that maybe?

10% premine was the only choice to get the mining reward to level the project needs... We already dropped emission rate to lowest usable.

First nice looking PoW launch in weeks and it's got a 10% premine 

* Total supply: 300 million
* Premine: 15 million
* Decimals: 2
* Block reward: 67.94 TLO at height 1
* Target time: 60 seconds
* Algorithm:
** CryptoNight (block 1)
** CryptoNight Variant 2 with 256kB scratchpad (blocks 2-)
* After block height 10000, changes to "Proof-of-Activity" (mining new blocks pauses if there is no transactions)
* After block height 11367, maximum mixin of 50

* P2P port: 33802
* RPC port: 33888
* Wallet daemon port: 33777

* Address prefix: TA
* Ticker: TLO

* Website: https://www.talleo.org/
* GitHub: https://github.com/TalleoProject/
* Discord: https://discord.gg/aysnp8P
* Telegram: https://t.me/talleo
* Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talleoproject/
* Twitter: https://twitter.com/TalleoProject
* Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Talleo/
* Publish0x: https://www.publish0x.com/talleo
* Steemit: https://steemit.com/created/hive-147043/
* Hive: https://hive.blog/created/hive-147043/
* FTP: ftp://mail.talleo.org/talleo/
* Wiki: https://wiki.talleo.org/

Mining pools:

* https://pool.talleo.org
* https://pool.raasu.org/
* https://tlo.cryptonote.club/

For full list, visit https://explorer.talleo.org/#pools

Supported miners:

* Talleo's CLI miner
* ftp://ftp.talleo.org/talleo/xmr-stak-talleo-win.zip
* xmrig v5.5.0 or later
* SRBMiner-Multi v0.3.1 or later

Test net: October 22, 2019
Main net: December 1, 2019

Talleo was originally forked from TurtleCoin but patches from various other coins were integrated during last 18 months.
Talleo Project aims to be payment solution for online shops with lowest possible fees. Any shop can use Web Wallet API to request payments from users, other wallets are supported with matching transactions by payment ID.