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Quote from: cryptokortex on November 13, 2019, 02:06:18 AM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 05, 2019, 03:48:15 AM

If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

I have a question though. Isn't this a marketing activity from the look of things this team might be part of a project that is seeking to push for publicity. This kind of thing happens all around us all the time. When we visit big site like google, YouTube and Facebook it is what sales people do. I would like to know how you think marketing should be done. I am an investor and I get to know about project when a lot of people are talking about it then I carry out an intensive research to verify their authenticity before pouring bucks into the project. This is just an opinion I don't know how things are done here.

I honestly doubt that you are an investor as i just checked your post history, and if we exclude this post you made, all others (3) were made on the same threads where this same group of accounts "worked".
So i would say that you are most likely part of the same group.

edit: can any of the DT members tag those accounts from first post? They are not newbie accounts, so might be worth it. Thank you.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 05, 2019, 03:48:15 AM

If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

I have a question though. Isn't this a marketing activity from the look of things this team might be part of a project that is seeking to push for publicity. This kind of thing happens all around us all the time. When we visit big site like google, YouTube and Facebook it is what sales people do. I would like to know how you think marketing should be done. I am an investor and I get to know about project when a lot of people are talking about it then I carry out an intensive research to verify their authenticity before pouring bucks into the project. This is just an opinion I don't know how things are done here.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on November 06, 2019, 06:36:41 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on November 06, 2019, 06:01:23 AM

From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX. 99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.

And about a thread you referred to:
I just checked their website. Their bounty is still going on and there are some tasks offered to people. They are likely spending money for posting on their ANN thread too.

Yeah i thought the same thing when i saw bounty section on their website, so i registered to have access, and i from what i could see they don't have bounty for that. Oh well, whatever is going on there, it doesn't help them much.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 06, 2019, 07:06:47 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on November 06, 2019, 06:01:23 AM

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that.

I just download the profile, and get the data from there. That's it

If you get me a list of userIDs, I'll get you a human readable list.

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I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.

It's not a very strict requirement to post in that thread.

Ok good to know, I might ask for permission to join that thread when i stumble upon something Wink

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 06, 2019, 06:01:23 AM

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that.

I just download the profile, and get the data from there. That's it

If you get me a list of userIDs, I'll get you a human readable list.

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I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.

It's not a very strict requirement to post in that thread.

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 06, 2019, 06:01:23 AM

From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX. 99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.

They are only trying to keep their thread alive. Like what is going on in Telegram groups of many tokens and IEOs/ICOs.
Generally there are three reasons for such activities.
1. They don't know how the new bumping system works.
2. They don't want to bump their thread. They only want to have an alive thread.
3. They want to be on the first page of the board when threads are sorted by the last post.

And about a thread you referred to:
I just checked their website. Their bounty is still going on and there are some tasks offered to people. They are likely spending money for posting on their ANN thread too.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 05, 2019, 03:48:15 AM

If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

Alright, gonna keep it here then, thanks for the input.

Quote from: nutildah on November 05, 2019, 05:43:59 AM

It just goes to show how little research the projects that hire these services do in terms of their marketing... They never even realize its a waste of money. They just get sold on the idea that it needs to be done, and throw money at it. To me, this lack of attentiveness is a sign of a scam project, who I believe are the main customers of this type of service... Its the same reason why scams plagiarize their white papers, website content and hastily produce fake teams -- they are in it for the short term only.

From what i noticed usually these things are done during IEO/ICO period, but there are cases where this ann bumping thing goes on after that period. Perfect example of that is Cocos BCX. 99% of their Ann thread is filled with newbie spam, while they are already listed on Binance. I simply don't understand why is that going on there, it's not like they really need that kind of exposure, it can only have counter effect.

Quote from: friends1980 on November 05, 2019, 11:11:46 AM

Quote from: friends1980 on August 26, 2019, 06:17:58 AM

Quote from: friends1980 on August 22, 2019, 05:08:54 PM

10. Full Member coin_1122 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
11. Sr. Member Btc_1856 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)

14. Full Member crustycrab666 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
15. Full Member dongosquad (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

I'm probably making a giant understatement here, but a lot of these sig spammers seem to be following each other's posts and posting in the same threads. I see the same names appear constantly in the same threads. Makes me believe that many of them are one and the same person.

In the cases quoted above, it's even more obvious: coin_1122 and BTC_1856 have the user numbers 925742 resp. 925744, and crustycrab666 and dongosquad are 995891 resp. 995892.

I suppose the numbers are created in order of forum subscription?

Although I'm no member of the Spambusters Club, I've been welcomed to report these user IDs on the SpamBusters Club's thread. Simply send the IDs to LoyceV who will convert them for you, like in my quotes above.

Just a friendly suggestion, Rikafip. (edit: and by the way, good job Cheesy

)

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that. I noticed @LoyceV makes those things and they seem very convenient, but i wondered how exactly he does that. I thought about posting some of things like this to SpamBuster Club's thread, but then i saw i need at least 300 reports, and I am quite far away from that number.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 05, 2019, 08:11:27 AM

It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power...

To be honest I haven't read up on the new rules regarding thread bumping so I don't know what changed. From the info in this thread and thinking about it logically I assume that new replies no longer place those ANN threads on top of the ANN board and that is why it is no use to have fake conversations.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on November 05, 2019, 03:58:03 PM

Quote from: virasog on November 05, 2019, 10:38:11 AM

There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.

High-merited users can easily bump threads without any need to make a post. They can super-bump the thread. This is much more effective that mini-bump.
At the time I am making this post, there are 6 threads on the first page of Announcements (Altcoins) boards without any posts in the past 36 hours. These threads have been super-bumped by high-merited users. So, there are some quality users not make posts on ANN threads but super-bump them.

There are people who follow the projects and they can super bump them too. We should not always look for the loop holes and should have faith in the ones who are bumping the threads for any reason they have. The main issue was the mini-bumps from the Newbies which has been resolved to a great extent after the implementation of new bumping rules.

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Quote from: virasog on November 05, 2019, 10:38:11 AM

There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.

High-merited users can easily bump threads without any need to make a post. They can super-bump the thread. This is much more effective that mini-bump.
At the time I am making this post, there are 6 threads on the first page of Announcements (Altcoins) boards without any posts in the past 36 hours. These threads have been super-bumped by high-merited users. So, there are some quality users not make posts on ANN threads but super-bump them.

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Quote from: friends1980 on August 26, 2019, 06:17:58 AM

Quote from: friends1980 on August 22, 2019, 05:08:54 PM

10. Full Member coin_1122 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
11. Sr. Member Btc_1856 (Trust: neutral) (BPIP)

14. Full Member crustycrab666 (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)
15. Full Member dongosquad (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned (history)) (BPIP)

I'm probably making a giant understatement here, but a lot of these sig spammers seem to be following each other's posts and posting in the same threads. I see the same names appear constantly in the same threads. Makes me believe that many of them are one and the same person.

In the cases quoted above, it's even more obvious: coin_1122 and BTC_1856 have the user numbers 925742 resp. 925744, and crustycrab666 and dongosquad are 995891 resp. 995892.

I suppose the numbers are created in order of forum subscription?

I've seen this kind of practices before. The same people bumping each other's threads, sometimes to keep the ANN thread alive, but also because they want to pump their activity.

Although I'm no member of the Spambusters Club, I've been welcomed to report these user IDs on the SpamBusters Club's thread. Simply send the IDs to LoyceV who will convert them for you, like in my quotes above.

Just a friendly suggestion, Rikafip. (edit: and by the way, good job Cheesy

)

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on November 05, 2019, 08:11:27 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on November 05, 2019, 05:14:50 AM

This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays Angry

I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power, they just fool the people that they gonna bump the thread but what they do is just to steal the money and make fake thread volume. I hope in a couple of months those services to die out, when the buyers realize that they all the money are thrown away for nothing.

The new bumping rules were made to eliminate such fake services but it will take time until the external stake holders realize that bumping Ann is no longer possible in bitcointalk.
There is only one way this can continue that if any person have few high quality accounts with merits and they have the power to bump the threads but i am sure no one will be doing the bumping service with high quality accounts.

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 05, 2019, 05:14:50 AM

This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays Angry

I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

It's no use anymore after the new bumping rules are in power, they just fool the people that they gonna bump the thread but what they do is just to steal the money and make fake thread volume. I hope in a couple of months those services to die out, when the buyers realize that they all the money are thrown away for nothing.

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Awesome work is done by Rikafip. These accounts should be banned from the forum I think. The neg rep trust is not enough alone for them. Because thus they are helping to promote scam projects. Only banned for posting can stop those accounts or it will be ongoing.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on November 05, 2019, 05:29:30 AM

I just checked the first page of both "Announcements (Altcoins)" and "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards.
Thanks to the new bumping system, except Moozicore which is now the third thread in "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards, none of these threads were on the first page of the board and bumping services are only wasting their money as their attempts are useless. (Better to say project owners are wasting their money.)

It just goes to show how little research the projects that hire these services do in terms of their marketing... They never even realize its a waste of money. They just get sold on the idea that it needs to be done, and throw money at it. To me, this lack of attentiveness is a sign of a scam project, who I believe are the main customers of this type of service... Its the same reason why scams plagiarize their white papers, website content and hastily produce fake teams -- they are in it for the short term only.

hosseinimr93

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I just checked the first page of both "Announcements (Altcoins)" and "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards.
Thanks to the new bumping system, except Moozicore which is now the third thread in "Tokens (Altcoins)" boards, none of these threads were on the first page of the board and bumping services are only wasting their money as their attempts are useless. (Better to say project owners are wasting their money.)

Pmalek

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This seems to be a pretty common service nowadays Angry

I bet you if you open a random ANN/Bounty thread, click on the ALL button to display all posts you will find plenty of users doing that. CRTL + F and copy-paste their username and see what comes up. A bunch of fake conversations, questions being asked by one newbie, a second one replies and a third one confirms and praises the project for their amazing work...

TheBeardedBaby

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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

If you ask me, Meta is the place, often when I report the ann thread bumping spammers, the Ann threads get deleted and/or some of the bumping accounts get banned/nuked.
Keep it here,better exposure to mod's attention.

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That's a lot of work you done there, good job.

Quote from: TMAN on November 05, 2019, 02:40:19 AM

move this to rep fella.. nice work man

I was always wondering what the best section to post this kind of stuff was. On one hand, its definitely related to the reputation of these accounts; on the other hand, nobody seems to know exactly what to do with paid thread bumpers, as they are not technically breaking any rules except for spamming, perhaps.

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move this to rep fella.. nice work man

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While checking something else, i found group of at least 16 accounts that are following each other through various Ann threads. All of those are currently active in the Dreamr Ann thread. There are more accounts that are doing similar thing in that thread, as they managed to churn out more than 1300 posts in month and a half, but these accounts were most active in other threads as well, with strongest connections.

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