Topic: [ANN] Venezuela For you ✅ the token of the change (V4U) 🇻🇪 (Read 735 times)

Hello, we don't know about it, but it could perfectly be. Despite it, we are at the last steps of negotiating with a big exchange not placed in Venezuela, so we can ensure its transparency, just in case.

As soon as we can provide more details we will. Thank you everyone for the questions, doubts and supportive comments, we hope deep in our hearts this project works and we can, at least, help venezuelans as much as possible.

Best regards,

Hola un cordial saludo a todos y agradecido ampliamente a [email protected] por la labor que a tomado en ayudar a muchos de los venezolanos los recomiendo ampliamnete.

Yes, I know this. But also as I know they had some exchanges in Venezuela which controled nowdays by government and they dont allow to trade there... But may be Im wrong...

No. Isn't.

The govern (of Maduro) has their crypto called Petro, which resulted for all of this community a shittycoin.

As i know crypto is prohibited in Venezuella? So how are you going to create currency and for what this currency? I remember some crypto-currencies from Venezuella, and seems they are died already (no work after token sale). 

I really need more initiatives of this kind in my country, and should make more effort to move forward with the cryptocurrencies, and that this initiative has many others.

That assumption would be the same as "I have no idea what i'm talking about so let's just shed some sh** on someone else." But no, dear mike, we do not need to request such services. It was all made by our community, which, with the time you'll see, are very comitted.

Best regards

Is that another words for "we hired bumping service but it didn't works in our favor, so we withdrawn them and hopefully we can fix the damage"?

Messages are volatile. We just told them about this thread, not willing to pump it neither spam it.
We have already told our community the main purpose of it, so hopefully the remaining people replying will be with more "substantial" content, as you said.

Regarding your previous question, we are not planning to change the name. As soon as we have the greenlight, we will update this post with the exchanges and future plans for the coin, which after these days and constant feedback from the community have evolved into a bigger project.

Thanks to our community for all their kind messages and also for those people asking questions about our project.

Best regards,

This project should be very potential indeed, because you know that in Venezuela the bitcoin is very popular and the price is high, but one thing that makes this project unpopular is that the website is not attractive and the team is not explained there

helping the people of Venezuela, usingour knowledge and experience in the current, modern and vibrant world of technologyBlockchain and Cryptocurrency.
We are a group of people coming from every corner of themap, upon interdisciplinary branches but in this case, with one goal in common: bring ourscience, work and effort in order to give Venezuelans wealth, focused in particular on the food,school, technology and above all, the medical and pharmaceutical.
The situation of patients in terms of the supply of drugs, is promptly worrying. The loop closeswith the tactics of the ostrich, as Bolivarian: failing to recognize reality, its diagnosis and itsremedies are always wrong. These are the keys to how the country with the largest reserves ofcrude oil suffers a shortage of 85% for years: every ten drugs that are hunted, are only 1.5. Aprocess that only time and research will quantify the victims causing and already numbering inthe thousands, according to ONG ́s and local experts.In 2016 the State reduced the list of priority medicines to buy and they left out more complexchronic health conditions: breast cancer, multiple sclerosis, psychiatric conditions, arthritis,hemophilia, transplant, dialysis, HIV, palliative.
The crisis in Venezuela is accelerating the resurgence of malaria, Chagas disease, dengue, theZika and other dangerous infectious diseases, and threat to derail 20 years of advances inpublic health, warned experts in a study published in the journal The Lancet InfectiousDiseases. Researchers claim that it is possible epidemics spreading beyond the borders ofVenezuela, which could cause a health emergency at the regional level.
Another fundamental aspect of people's lives, is severely affected in these days in this country.Underfeeding affects more than 11% of the Venezuelan population, an increase of nearly onemillion people for a decade before.
Venezuela swims upstream.
The Bolivarian, immersed in agrave humanitarian crisis, country is the only one in Latin America, along with Belize - whichincreases hunger. The severe shortage of food available in Venezuela added years a rampanthyperinflation, which leaves products as basic as a tin of tuna out of the reach of the vastmajority of citizens.
This food crisis, together with the deterioration of political situation, hascaused a massive flight of citizens to neighbouring countries.It is especially sad watch as entire families have had to flee the beautiful and rich countrywhere they were born and have grown up to have themselves and their children a moredignified future, with more opportunities and possibilities.
From Venezuela For You!, we want and work to make that possible, and that all the sacrificesmade by the beloved village Venezuelan, to become in their favor and advantage.

I am led to believe that those accounts, either the ones posting in English or the ones in Venezuelan (i would assume it's their native language) are bumping accounts, judging from the insubstantial content they had, thus put this project into question.

Helping people in need is a worthy goal of the project. I believe that it is not necessary to give money to people. It is necessary to make a contribution to the development of the country, industry, construction, medicine, education, etc. And it is more expedient to direct funds primarily to this , and not just to distribute them to people. This approach will bring much more benefit to people, but it will not be now, but in the near future.

It's better idea to move this topic into local board when people like to talk into their local language. This board is dedicated for international community and it bothered when majority of the people talk into unknown language.

Yep, agreed on this. The thread was quiet for a short while, dev didn't respond to question, and then it's flooded with bumping posts from clearly connected spamming accounts, kind of speaking for itself what this project truly is. It's the end of this project.

brand new/noobs hyping up this project??? we all know where this is heading...

May I also consider that judging from the name of your token, your service (whatever it will be in the future) is exclusive for Venezuelan?

Hello Miiike,

in this right moment this is its mainly function, BUT we are working very hard to give it more uses. We cannot say more things until we have more things attached, but we are negotiating with different companies to give it more usage. As soon as we can reveal more information about it, we will do write about it in our social networks and here in this post.

Many thanks!

So, am I safe to assume that your token will act as a remittance platform instead of only for airdrops? I would advise to reconsider your name, then.

Hello again Miiike,

Around first of May we will relieve our Roadmap.
And in turn once the two Airdrops are completed on May 13, we will give the dates and the distribution system.
At that time you will understand the anti-dumping plans that we have prepared.

But basically today you want to make a transaction with BTC you have to pay 1.5 usd of fee.
With us working on the Eth Network is about 0.03 usd.

With this we want to be a cryptocurrency to send remittances and in conjunction with a good marketing plan, we know that the currency will not go to 0 value.
I hope it has been helpful for you.

Best regards,

Maybe I'm a little bit unclear on the first question. My point was about how will you keep the stability of the token's price? The main function of your token for now up to the second it hit an exchange (be it DEX, CEX, or OTC) is to give Venezuelans some extra money (which is, the true essence of airdrop itself). And the very same purpose will be the major factor of failure.

The Venezuelans will try to sell them at whatever price they can, given the nature of free money combined with the needs of fiat. This will predictably take us to a dump situation. So, how will you prevent this?

any other application for your coin other than trading this in exchanges? if that would be the case, the value of your coin will decline fast. maybe, create a valuable use case for venezuelans as this is your main purpose. try tying up with shops or merchants within your country that will gladly accept your coins.

obviously, you will say that kyc database will be tight secured and have no further use other than your main objective here. i wonder if all the airdroppers will be happy about the real value of their holdings once they actually exchanged it.

Hello Miiike,
my apologies for your unattended post.
To your first question our first idea is to list the token on an OTC exchange so they can exchange it for their local coin and vice versa. This will fulfill its main goal that is sending and receiving consignments.

Regarding your second question the data sent through the airdrops will only be available for the founders and the program (that will run in local with the exported database), there will be no further use of this information.

Best regards,

I would really love to see my question attended, thank you. And oh, while we're at it, I would also add a question about data abuse, how secure will this KYC database be?

Hello Thor,
yes, at the beginning for the first airdrop we are doing we will do the KYC and give it away to those who are trusted venezuelans. After it, in the second stage it will be opened to everyone. Plus the second airdrop (telegram) is opened to everyone and it will not need KYC.

Best regards!

I would assume you're the alt of the CM? Or perhaps another member from the team and this is an official reply? For the case of 6 USD is equal to their monthly wage, I would think it's good enough to motivate people to do KYC. But, talking technicalities, how do you create a demand for your token, or maintain your value?

Right now, the token have little to no benefits to be hold except if you're Venezuelan, which if that's the case, then your motivation to get ahold of the token is to cash them. That means, most likely no one will be interested to buy and no Venezuelan would be interested to hold, which leads us to a scenario where when the first market opens, everybody will sell their token and no one buy (and that's a zero demand) or you offered a buyback, and the value will likely goes down due to the dump, unless you pegged them at 10.

So will the kyc be only for Venezuelan citizens? Currently who can have V4U tokens will be only Venezuelan citizens and after listing in exchanges, that will be accessible to any citizen who is not Venezuelan?

Hello Miike,

It is not what is the minimum wage in the USA, but in Venezuela it is 6 USD MONTHLY, with this figure you can get an idea.

And with hyperinflation there is more than 50% of the population knows Bitcoin and has used it.

You can see googleando a little, that Venezuela is the TOP 1 in Local Bitcoin.

And when the light went out 5 days the transactions in BTC fell.

Bitcoin is a refuge of value, because its currency is devalued every day. And for them there is a great adoption in Venezuela with Blockchain.

How much is it worth? I mean, suppose we convert the value to US daily life, how much will it be?

Doesn't this method only effective for citizen who familiar with blockchain and crypto? I suppose on such crisis situation, not many people interested on crypto, is it not? I base my assumption on an idea if people find it difficult to buy daily needs, then they'll even more reluctant to buy internet and such, which is the doorway to crypto

Hello again Miiike!

Thanks again for your answer and for the interest. Once it finish, we will ask them to send a real proof about their nationality like an ID capture or an invoice with their name and location.
It will be a pain in the *** for us, but it's how we have thought to ensure that everybody that fulfill the requirements get it.
I don't know where are you from, but in places like Venezuela 10$ is quite a huge amount. We know it's not the final solution but its a first step.
Plus, the token usability goes further than just a gift, its also a way to send and claim aids from around the world.

Thanks for helping us making this a greater and better project!

Hmm... IMO, for 10 USD, KYC is rather troublesome, especially because it means revealing my identity. How do you ensure they'll go through the trouble just for 10 USD? And second, how do you ensure the airdropped tokens are for the people living specifically in Venezuela? I guess your software can't detect if the Venezuelan is indeed living in Venezuela (thus, experiencing the crisis) or in other part of the world (and thus, didn't really fall to the hard situation), can it?

Hello again Miike,
yes, that's exactly how we are going to do it, with KYC. We have developed a very simple piece of software that filters from the airdrop database those who are not from Venezuela.
Then we will manually check that everybody who the program matches as elegible is indeed who it sais to be.
It is going to be a hard, long and painful process but that's how we want to process it in order to give it away to those who deserve and need it.

Plus, it is also opened to the rest of the world with the telegram airdrop, which it's completely different from the V4U airdrop. One is for everybody and the other one only for venezuelans.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

Okay, first thing first, how do you ensure that the airdroppers are indeed Venezuelan and not from other countries? KYC? For 10 USD?

Hello Miiike,
Indeed you are right. This is our main goal, helping them. Not only giving away that amount but also making our token the main valuable coin for receiving aid from outside their frontiers.
So far all venezuelans we have contacted (more than 15k) have specificly stated how helpful this will be and how good idea it is.

We don't take part in their political situation but if people want to help them this aid should arrive straight to them, not being burned in their frontiers.

Despite that fact, we are opened to more future uses of the coin, but remembering always that the goal will always be the same, helping them.

Best regards,
Dan D.

Correct me if I'm wrong, your plan to help Venezuela is by airdropping ERC-20 token (V4U) to their citizens, which valued roughly 10 USD?

A rich country of natural resources. Why do Americans want to seize it? In Texas - very light oil, in Vinesuela heavy. If you mix them, then its competitiveness will increase. I think that in spite of the "rulers of the world", the project must be supported.

Resume

We are born of the need to form a project focused on helping the people of Venezuela, usingour knowledge and experience in the current, modern and vibrant world of technologyBlockchain and Cryptocurrency.
We are a group of people coming from every corner of themap, upon interdisciplinary branches but in this case, with one goal in common: bring ourscience, work and effort in order to give Venezuelans wealth, focused in particular on the food,school, technology and above all, the medical and pharmaceutical.
The situation of patients in terms of the supply of drugs, is promptly worrying. The loop closeswith the tactics of the ostrich, as Bolivarian: failing to recognize reality, its diagnosis and itsremedies are always wrong. These are the keys to how the country with the largest reserves ofcrude oil suffers a shortage of 85% for years: every ten drugs that are hunted, are only 1.5. Aprocess that only time and research will quantify the victims causing and already numbering inthe thousands, according to ONG ́s and local experts.In 2016 the State reduced the list of priority medicines to buy and they left out more complexchronic health conditions: breast cancer, multiple sclerosis, psychiatric conditions, arthritis,hemophilia, transplant, dialysis, HIV, palliative.
The crisis in Venezuela is accelerating the resurgence of malaria, Chagas disease, dengue, theZika and other dangerous infectious diseases, and threat to derail 20 years of advances inpublic health, warned experts in a study published in the journal The Lancet InfectiousDiseases. Researchers claim that it is possible epidemics spreading beyond the borders ofVenezuela, which could cause a health emergency at the regional level.
Another fundamental aspect of people's lives, is severely affected in these days in this country.Underfeeding affects more than 11% of the Venezuelan population, an increase of nearly onemillion people for a decade before.
Venezuela swims upstream.
The Bolivarian, immersed in agrave humanitarian crisis, country is the only one in Latin America, along with Belize - whichincreases hunger. The severe shortage of food available in Venezuela added years a rampanthyperinflation, which leaves products as basic as a tin of tuna out of the reach of the vastmajority of citizens.
This food crisis, together with the deterioration of political situation, hascaused a massive flight of citizens to neighbouring countries.It is especially sad watch as entire families have had to flee the beautiful and rich countrywhere they were born and have grown up to have themselves and their children a moredignified future, with more opportunities and possibilities.
From Venezuela For You!, we want and work to make that possible, and that all the sacrificesmade by the beloved village Venezuelan, to become in their favor and advantage.

How are we going to carry it out?

Airdrop Venezuela For You!:Any resident of Venezuela that little form, detailingyour personal data (name, address, email, telegram, wallet ETH user)will be beneficiary of 100 tokens V4U ERC20 (blockchain ETH)valued at 10 USD.

Airdrop II (bot telegram + referrals) Through our Bot in Telegram, follow us onour social networks will have the option of winning 100 tokens(10 USD) V4U, and also 25 Tokens (2.5 USD) V4U byeach referred to the network.

V4U Function

After the sadness of the departure of a family member, the Venezuelandiaspora has a practical effect for those who remain: the arrival from abroadof money that, outside of the offcial channels, offers relief to the crisis andhyperinflation.
In the decision that most Venezuelans increasingly take toescape the crisis and hyperinflation it weighs the possibility ofbeing away from the livelihood of the families that remain.
How? With remittances. Until a few years ago, one of the problems of Venezuelawas the outflow of capital. Now it starts to become a recipient of remittances fromthe United States, France, Panama, Colombia, Argentina... etc.
Problems in the reception of remittances.In Venezuela coexist two very different types of change. The reason is the foreign exchangecontrol of the Government. While the official exchange rate of the dollar is at the momentin some 3500 bolivars; on the black market, the reference in the street, outperforms the 3300.(and this varies day after day, hour after hour)

The difference is so abysmal that anyone is going to use a legal path that would lose a lot ofmoney. The Government of the regime considers that indicator of the market as “criminaldollar” and blames it for “induced” hyperinflation. While there may be some speculation,it is the best indicator of the supply and demand of dollars. And before the devaluation of thebolivar, anyone can seek refuge in another currency.

Ways to get money.Grows the exile of Venezuelans and the sending of remittances.And with them, businesses that seek to satisfy the needs of migrants. One of the services mostknown and used for Western Union, one of the leading companies of sending money in theworld, which would be obliged to make use of the change offcial, very harmful to users. Butnow operates with diffculties in Venezuelan territory.

Diffculties with sending from host countries.The phenomenon of sending remittances has accelerated with the last wave of emigration,that composed of middle and low sectors that decide to leave the country to help those who remain.The figures are going to grow exponentially, but it is still a relatively new phenomenon. In spite of not offering the highest rate, in the exchange offices authorized by the government to receive remittances,very long lines of people looking for the remittances of their relatives from abroad arebeginning to be noticed. These queues are also produced in the countries that generate thesecurrencies.