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Topic: [ANN][CNOTE][IPBC] Interplanetary Bittube Coin#Community-Fork (Read 1834 times)
Hi, everybody. This coin is already in my profit mining calculator https://calcminer.info/ as well as more than 1000 pow coins
September 14, 2018, 04:19:02 AM
September 11, 2018, 12:32:56 PM
Very unique idea for me. I think everyone would use this system. People usually wants to analyze everything and make the best choice and with this project everyone can have their benefits. As i say i liked the idea but i would like to see and exam about the project team first.
if you look at social networks, everything looks very negative. or the team lacks people who can answer user questions or they are completely absent from social networks. and both show that the project will not be able to achieve development as it should.
Is this alive? It's very quiet and basically no activity on discord too...
Hi,
We just launched a mining pool to support this coin. For now it's basically solo mining so if you are interested you can join here: https://ipbc.thepiratemine.nl/
There is a prize pot as you can see. Meaning that if we reach the prize pot threshold i will give away the prize pot to an active miner in our pool. Consider the pool fee as increasing the prize pot value.
We have more pools which you can see @ https://thepiratemine.nl/
We have a telegram group here: https://t.me/thepiratemine
Are you curious how the prize pot works and how you get the coins? Watch these 2 movies:
Round 1: https://xtl.thepiratemine.nl/round1-winner5000xtl.mp4
Round 2: https://xtl.thepiratemine.nl/round2-winner5000xtl.mp4
IPBC Mining Pool by ThePirateMine
Pool URL: https://ipbc.thepiratemine.nl
Payout threshold: 1 IPBC
Payment Interval: 30 minutes
Pool Fee: 0.8%
There are also disadvantages on this project. How they will monitor that the project if it's legitimate or not? Do you have KYC first before they can participate on the platform?
Project?? what kind of project you mean??
I know only the bittube project, but what really wants with the IPBC project===?
?
IPBC was added to xiaopool.com 
:
- https://xiaopool.com/ipbc
- 0.5% fee
- Minimum payou: 10 IPBC
- Location: asia
-Discord: https://discord.gg/awGYmSe
: - https://xiaopool.com/ipbc
- 0.5% fee
- Minimum payou: 10 IPBC
- Location: asia
-Discord: https://discord.gg/awGYmSe
There are also disadvantages on this project. How they will monitor that the project if it's legitimate or not? Do you have KYC first before they can participate on the platform?
A big news came from this IPBC that the team will remove the possible fees that could be applied on the transactions.
It should give every investors to get interested in this project .
It should give every investors to get interested in this project .
wow, very good news.
this will make it easier for investors to transact,
I became interested in joining, but I still don't know what to do.
for now i see the development ahead.
A big news came from this IPBC that the team will remove the possible fees that could be applied on the transactions.
It should give every investors to get interested in this project .
It should give every investors to get interested in this project .
We have successfully forked!
Heads up.
For those who are waiting, there's approximately 1 more hour left until fork height.
For those who are waiting, there's approximately 1 more hour left until fork height.
I would love to join the bounty company of this project. Do you know the date of its holding?
Sorry I'm trying to understand how to claim IPBC as stated above.
Can the IPBC team clarify what are the steps to take pre and post fork at 140000
I'm currently mining TUBE on the TUBE network with an IPBC wallet address.
Does it just before 140k, we empty out our TUBE wallet and use our TUBE keys/seed on IPBC wallet?
Appreciate if you explain the steps
thanks
Pre-fork, you do not have to do anything, except maybe transfer your TUBE to a wallet that you control the mnemonic seed to.
Post-fork, you'll automatically receive your IPBC if you have TUBE in your wallet at height 139999 (we are actually forking 1 block before 140000). You will need to import your mnemonic seed into the IPBC GUI/CLI/web wallet to claim your IPBC. This can be done at any time after the fork.
Generally, it is not a good idea to import a wallet with balance into a third-party software, which is why we recommend transferring out your TUBE before claiming your IPBC. Your IPBC remains in whatever wallet you had your TUBE in at 139999. The safety precaution is not required to claim your IPBC coins (Bittube and IPBC can share the same address), but highly recommended as a good practice for any airdrop.
Hi DEV
is thi project still ongoing?
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Thanks
is thi project still ongoing?
I want to reverse for Vietnamese translation
If you need our language, please contact me or confirm this message
Thanks
We're not looking for a translator at the moment, but we'll keep this in mind. Thanks for the offer.
Hi DEV
is thi project still ongoing?
I want to reverse for Vietnamese translation
If you need our language, please contact me or confirm this message
Thanks
is thi project still ongoing?
I want to reverse for Vietnamese translation
If you need our language, please contact me or confirm this message
Thanks
#Claiming your IPBC Coins#
IPBC coins can be accessed using Bittube private keys or seed. Owners will automatically receive IPBC
at a 1:1 ratio by importing the keys to the IPBC wallet.
However, for maximum security, it is recommended that all Bittube owners empty their respective
Bittube wallets to a different wallet before they enter private keys outside of Bittube.
Any exchange that supports the IPBC fork will airdrop the new coin after the fork.
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Sorry I'm trying to understand how to claim IPBC as stated above.
Can the IPBC team clarify what are the steps to take pre and post fork at 140000
I'm currently mining TUBE on the TUBE network with an IPBC wallet address.
Does it just before 140k, we empty out our TUBE wallet and use our TUBE keys/seed on IPBC wallet?
Appreciate if you explain the steps
thanks
IPBC coins can be accessed using Bittube private keys or seed. Owners will automatically receive IPBC
at a 1:1 ratio by importing the keys to the IPBC wallet.
However, for maximum security, it is recommended that all Bittube owners empty their respective
Bittube wallets to a different wallet before they enter private keys outside of Bittube.
Any exchange that supports the IPBC fork will airdrop the new coin after the fork.
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Sorry I'm trying to understand how to claim IPBC as stated above.
Can the IPBC team clarify what are the steps to take pre and post fork at 140000
I'm currently mining TUBE on the TUBE network with an IPBC wallet address.
Does it just before 140k, we empty out our TUBE wallet and use our TUBE keys/seed on IPBC wallet?
Appreciate if you explain the steps
thanks
In light of the recent problems with bulletproof (double-count bug), and the incomplete technical reviews, which won't be available until September, we have decided to disabled bulletproof.
Bulletproof will be enabled at a later date when it is confirmed production-ready.
Bulletproof will be enabled at a later date when it is confirmed production-ready.
Very interesting project ideology! 
Should ASICs catch up with Tube CN-heavy algo, would there be a prompt fork to mitigate said threat?
Should ASICs catch up with Tube CN-heavy algo, would there be a prompt fork to mitigate said threat?
I think it'll be quite sometime before someone can come up with an effective asic for Tube CN-heavy, but yes, we will promptly update the algo if it comes to that
Is the "no fees" character going to be mantained throughout the entirety of the project? 
That would defeat the purpose of this project, now would it?
To clarify: I will not support any attempt to add fee to to project. My partner feels the same way, and I am confident that the community will never allow for this to happen for IPBC once a steering committee is established (which is our long-term to extended-term goal for IPBC).
I don't need the dev fee to support myself or this project, but in the worst-case scenario, we can rely on donation for the foundation or if cost gets out of hand.
We decided against putting up a donation link up for the time being, because we feel that we need to present a good working product before we should be compensated for any our work.
Should ASICs catch up with Tube CN-heavy algo, would there be a prompt fork to mitigate said threat?
Is the "no fees" character going to be mantained throughout the entirety of the project?
That would defeat the purpose of this project, now would it?
To clarify: I will not support any attempt to add fee to to project. My partner feels the same way, and I am confident that the community will never allow for this to happen for IPBC once a steering committee is established (which is our long-term to extended-term goal for IPBC).
I don't need the dev fee to support myself or this project, but in the worst-case scenario, we can rely on donation for the foundation or if cost gets out of hand.
We decided against putting up a donation link up for the time being, because we feel that we need to present a good working product before we should be compensated for any our work.
Is the "no fees" character going to be mantained throughout the entirety of the project?
any particular reason to publish two different white papers?
Those whitepapers circle around the relevant technologies : cryptonote in general and ring confidential transactions.
any particular reason to publish two different white papers?
When are Exchange listings scheduled to happen?
that is ultimately up to the exchanges we are negotiating with to decide.
When are Exchange listings scheduled to happen?
"Android and iOS lightwallets on the same backend" - it would be good to add windows phone wallet.
I have not developed for the Windows Phone platform before, but we can give it a shot after completing the Android/iOS lightwallet.
Thank you for your suggestion!
For the record, this project has nothing to do with the real BitTube. But I wish you all good luck. Maybe pornhub will accept you one day.
Thank you for the clarifications.
Pornhub accepting us would be great
Cheers, and good luck from the IPBC team!
For the record, this project has nothing to do with the real BitTube. But I wish you all good luck. Maybe pornhub will accept you one day.
"Android and iOS lightwallets on the same backend" - it would be good to add windows phone wallet.
And yes, we will be changing the emission curve at fork height.
We received a lot of feedback on this from our Discord community, and decided that without the video platform, there's no need for a slower emission curve.
We have already tested the change, and found that the block reward is expected to drop slightly at fork height (to around 335 IPBC per block, but without the 30% governance fee), and will decrease about 4 times faster than TUBE over time.
We received a lot of feedback on this from our Discord community, and decided that without the video platform, there's no need for a slower emission curve.
We have already tested the change, and found that the block reward is expected to drop slightly at fork height (to around 335 IPBC per block, but without the 30% governance fee), and will decrease about 4 times faster than TUBE over time.
So you are abandoning the video platform concept..? and u are just making another CN coin?Just gonna use the CN Saber algo? I'm missing something?? Are u against the 3% fee that will be used half for marketing and the other half to compensate the owners of bit.tube that have invested allot of their own money to develop this project and pay for the salaries of many devs and employeez..??
we like the video concept, but we also like to have a clean cn coin on current and updated technology without ANY fee.
Sure because why give anyone any inneciative to actually develop anything. And btw what will generate the request for your coins? Why buy it?
Hi MinedTangerine,
We updated our ANN to clarify the goals of this project.
In a nutshell: we will provide a strong and stable network, and build up the framework that will allow merchants and laypersons to easily use our coin.
We will provide some example products that utilize this framework, as marketing material, and will help people build their own shops and platforms that will utilize the coin.
We want to create a project that can be built upon outside of the core-dev team. That's what we mean by creating a universally accepted currency.
It is up to the market to decide the value of the coin. We have no concerns over its price.
we decided to cut total cap and steepen the emission
#define MONEY_SUPPLY ((uint64_t)(100000000000000000))
#define EMISSION_SPEED_FACTOR_PER_MINUTE (22)
#define MONEY_SUPPLY_V5 ((uint64_t)(25000000000000000))
#define EMISSION_SPEED_FACTOR_PER_MINUTE_V5 (20)
uint64_t base_reward = version >= BLOCK_MAJOR_VERSION_5 ? (MONEY_SUPPLY_V5 - already_generated_coins) >> emission_speed_factor_v5 : (MONEY_SUPPLY - already_generated_coins) >> emission_speed_factor;
#define MONEY_SUPPLY ((uint64_t)(100000000000000000))
#define EMISSION_SPEED_FACTOR_PER_MINUTE (22)
#define MONEY_SUPPLY_V5 ((uint64_t)(25000000000000000))
#define EMISSION_SPEED_FACTOR_PER_MINUTE_V5 (20)
uint64_t base_reward = version >= BLOCK_MAJOR_VERSION_5 ? (MONEY_SUPPLY_V5 - already_generated_coins) >> emission_speed_factor_v5 : (MONEY_SUPPLY - already_generated_coins) >> emission_speed_factor;
iam buy at 0.00000001 ltc
I do not quite understand, but why lay out two white papers? It seemed to me that this is too much pressure on the brains of investors. On the basis of what famous coin is yours made?
There's 72M coins in circulation, so 0.72 LTC seems like a reasonable price for the entire market cap.
I'll raise that to 2 litoshi, in case anyone wants to sell at that price
I'll raise that to 2 litoshi, in case anyone wants to sell at that price
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There's 72M coins in circulation, so 0.72 LTC seems like a reasonable price for the entire market cap.
I'll raise that to 2 litoshi, in case anyone wants to sell at that price
I'll raise that to 2 litoshi, in case anyone wants to sell at that price
Why buy it?
OTC offer:
Ill buy ANY amount of IPBC at fork time at 1 litoshi
Be carefull with what you state here
Why buy it?
OTC offer:
Ill buy ANY amount of IPBC at fork time at 1 litoshi
So you are abandoning the video platform concept..? and u are just making another CN coin?Just gonna use the CN Saber algo? I'm missing something?? Are u against the 3% fee that will be used half for marketing and the other half to compensate the owners of bit.tube that have invested allot of their own money to develop this project and pay for the salaries of many devs and employeez..??
we like the video concept, but we also like to have a clean cn coin on current and updated technology without ANY fee.
Sure because why give anyone any inneciative to actually develop anything. And btw what will generate the request for your coins? Why buy it?
So you are abandoning the video platform concept..? and u are just making another CN coin?Just gonna use the CN Saber algo? I'm missing something?? Are u against the 3% fee that will be used half for marketing and the other half to compensate the owners of bit.tube that have invested allot of their own money to develop this project and pay for the salaries of many devs and employeez..??
we like the video concept, but we also like to have a clean cn coin on current and updated technology without ANY fee.
they are just trying to decentralize governance in every region,
into their regional pockets. Nothing is developed with these fees.
So you are abandoning the video platform concept..? and u are just making another CN coin?Just gonna use the CN Saber algo? I'm missing something?? Are u against the 3% fee that will be used half for marketing and the other half to compensate the owners of bit.tube that have invested allot of their own money to develop this project and pay for the salaries of many devs and employeez..??
they are just trying to decentralize governance in every region, where they seriously develop crytonote to be useful, it is not a bad thing, focusing on a broad market, they certainly do not think of things that are less necessary for them, like premine, maybe this project will be a little trouble with the development a little slow, but will keep running with the plan, I think this is not too bad
Very helpful information, the development of blockchain should always be progressive, because if there is no significant change, I am sure the community or investors will disappear and move on to another project
so 90% of all cryptonotes are useless? Because their only progress is one type of fee or another.
Very helpful information, the development of blockchain should always be progressive, because if there is no significant change, I am sure the community or investors will disappear and move on to another project
Well, that's interesting. Will this coin be listed anywhere?
The timing is kind of ambiguous...
The timing is kind of ambiguous...
We're currently negotiating with several exchanges, but to avoid unnecessary speculations, we will not be disclosing our exchange plans at this time.
We announced our mainnet early to prepare pool operators for the open launch to ensure proper decentralization of hashrate from fork height onward.
Mining on our pool right now will generate both Bittube and IPBC coins (same as if you were mining on a Bittube pool).
However, do note that the 3% governance fee applies to both coins before the fork height (we do not collect this fee), and that the mempools are not shared by the two networks, so you will not be processing transactions from the Bittube network on our network, and vice versa.
Well, that's interesting. Will this coin be listed anywhere?
The timing is kind of ambiguous...
The timing is kind of ambiguous...
IPBC strives to be a universally accepted currency with a focus on blockchain security, and advanced features like Bulletproof and RingCT.
Like many of CN coins today
So what will be the usecase of this coin? The usecase of bittube is their platform, not the mining algorithm? Makes no sense in my opininion
Hi Skyyat!
IPBC strives to be a universally accepted currency with a focus on blockchain security, and advanced features like Bulletproof and RingCT.
We do not want to limit our coin to a single platform, and will be removing Bittube's governance fee.
So what will be the usecase of this coin? The usecase of bittube is their platform, not the mining algorithm? Makes no sense in my opininion
+1
Interplanetary Bittube Coin (IPBC)
Private, Untraceable, Anonymous
IPBC Website - Github - Discord - Twitter
Interplanetary Bittube Coin (IPBC) is a hard fork of the well known Bittube, combining
the best features of cryptonote technology without Premine or Governance fees!
Made by the community, for the community, IPBC aims to be a universally accepted currency.
As a community-based open-source project, released under the BSDv2 license,
everyone is welcome to contribute to our project!
The Miners' Grievance and the Call for a Better Coin
The idea of creating a fork from Bittube emerged from the tightly-knitted Bittube mining community,
who are responsible for keeping the network secured from malicious attacks and disruptions.
The addition of a 30% governance fee in the upcoming Bittube fork goes against this goal.
IPBC will remove all such fees, and distribute the full block reward back to our miners!
Our Team will add no premine or fee, and previous fees are disabled from forkheight onwards.
We will continue to adopt Bittube's updates, excluding any kind of fees.
All miners are welcome to join us at fork height!
Preparing for the Hardfork
#Claiming your IPBC Coins#
IPBC coins can be accessed using Bittube private keys or seed. Owners will automatically receive IPBC
at a 1:1 ratio by importing the keys to the IPBC wallet.
However, for maximum security, it is recommended that all Bittube owners empty their respective
Bittube wallets to a different wallet before they enter private keys outside of Bittube.
Any exchange that supports the IPBC fork will airdrop the new coin after the fork.
#Mining your IPBC Coins#
By utilizing the unique Tube Cryptonight-Heavy PoW algorithm, our network can be efficiently mined on a modern gaming-grade GPU,
ensuring competitive mining profits, and avoiding any unnecessary dumping by large industrialized mining farms.
We are preparing an open launch at block height 140,000-1, and will be launching the official pool shortly before said fork height to ensure so.
There will be no snapshot. We will be forking alongside Bittube with no disruptions to either networks.
Any pool supporting the fork will automatically switch over to the IPBC network at fork height.
Since both Bittube and IPBC can share the same wallet addresses, you can continue
mining on our network using your old Bittube address.
Our Goals and Missions is to Provide:
A reliable network of seeds, extensible by stakeholders
A lightning fast explorer and backup explorer with API
A simple opensource light webwallet with local private key storage in the browser only (https://testnet-wallet.ipbc.rocks/)
Android and iOS lightwallets on the same backend
Libraries to add IPBC payment option to common web shoppingcart systems
IPBC-bingo.com, IPBC-roulette.com, or some other simple examples to demonstrate usage of those libraries.
From there, we will allow the market and community to decide the direction of our coin.
Technical Specifications:
Symbol: IPBC
PoW algorithm: Tube Cryptonight-Heavy
Difficulty Retarget: Every Block
Block Time: 120 seconds
Max Supply: 250,000,000 IPBC
Emission Factor: 20
Decimal places: 8
Features: Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT), Bulletproof, Dynamic Tx Fees, etc.
Website:
https://ipbc.rocks
Downloads:
https://github.com/IPBCrocks/ipbc/releases
IPBC Pools:
https://mining.ipbc.rocks
https://mining.asia.ipbc.rocks
https://ipbc.herominers.com
https://cryptoknight.cc/ipbcrocks
https://xiaopool.com/ipbc
https://ipbc.thepiratemine.nl/
IPBC Block Explorers:
https://explorer.ipbc.rocks
Online Wallet:
Available in testnet, coming to mainnet at fork height!
Remote Node:
node.ipbc.rocks:24282
IPBC Blockchain.raw:
https://ipbc.rocks/blockchain.raw
Testnet:
https://testnet-mining.ipbc.rocks
https://testnet-explorer.ipbc.rocks
https://testnet-wallet.ipbc.rocks
testnet-explorer.ipbc.rocks:34282 (Remote node)
Community and Support:
Discord: https://discord.gg/g7cZmJ9
Twitter: https://twitter.com/IpbcR
Exchanges:
To be announced
Whitepapers:
Cryptonote Whitepaper (https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf)
RingCT Whitepaper (https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/921.pdf)
update 7/28/18: Due to overwhelming feedback from the community, we are changing the emission curve at fork height.
Total supply have been lowered from 1B to 250M, and emission factor has been decreased from 22 to 20.
The block reward at fork height will go down slightly, and will decrease about 4x faster compared to Bittube.
update 8/7/18: In light of the recent problems with bulletproof (double-count bug), and the incomplete technical reviews,
which won't be available until September, we have decided to disabled bulletproof.
Bulletproof will be enabled at a later date when it is confirmed production-ready.
Private, Untraceable, Anonymous
IPBC Website - Github - Discord - Twitter
Interplanetary Bittube Coin (IPBC) is a hard fork of the well known Bittube, combining
the best features of cryptonote technology without Premine or Governance fees!
Made by the community, for the community, IPBC aims to be a universally accepted currency.
As a community-based open-source project, released under the BSDv2 license,
everyone is welcome to contribute to our project!
The Miners' Grievance and the Call for a Better Coin
The idea of creating a fork from Bittube emerged from the tightly-knitted Bittube mining community,
who are responsible for keeping the network secured from malicious attacks and disruptions.
The addition of a 30% governance fee in the upcoming Bittube fork goes against this goal.
IPBC will remove all such fees, and distribute the full block reward back to our miners!
Our Team will add no premine or fee, and previous fees are disabled from forkheight onwards.
We will continue to adopt Bittube's updates, excluding any kind of fees.
All miners are welcome to join us at fork height!
Preparing for the Hardfork
#Claiming your IPBC Coins#
IPBC coins can be accessed using Bittube private keys or seed. Owners will automatically receive IPBC
at a 1:1 ratio by importing the keys to the IPBC wallet.
However, for maximum security, it is recommended that all Bittube owners empty their respective
Bittube wallets to a different wallet before they enter private keys outside of Bittube.
Any exchange that supports the IPBC fork will airdrop the new coin after the fork.
#Mining your IPBC Coins#
By utilizing the unique Tube Cryptonight-Heavy PoW algorithm, our network can be efficiently mined on a modern gaming-grade GPU,
ensuring competitive mining profits, and avoiding any unnecessary dumping by large industrialized mining farms.
We are preparing an open launch at block height 140,000-1, and will be launching the official pool shortly before said fork height to ensure so.
There will be no snapshot. We will be forking alongside Bittube with no disruptions to either networks.
Any pool supporting the fork will automatically switch over to the IPBC network at fork height.
Since both Bittube and IPBC can share the same wallet addresses, you can continue
mining on our network using your old Bittube address.
Our Goals and Missions is to Provide:
A reliable network of seeds, extensible by stakeholders
A lightning fast explorer and backup explorer with API
A simple opensource light webwallet with local private key storage in the browser only (https://testnet-wallet.ipbc.rocks/)
Android and iOS lightwallets on the same backend
Libraries to add IPBC payment option to common web shoppingcart systems
IPBC-bingo.com, IPBC-roulette.com, or some other simple examples to demonstrate usage of those libraries.
From there, we will allow the market and community to decide the direction of our coin.
Technical Specifications:
Symbol: IPBC
PoW algorithm: Tube Cryptonight-Heavy
Difficulty Retarget: Every Block
Block Time: 120 seconds
Max Supply: 250,000,000 IPBC
Emission Factor: 20
Decimal places: 8
Features: Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT), Bulletproof, Dynamic Tx Fees, etc.
Website:
https://ipbc.rocks
Downloads:
https://github.com/IPBCrocks/ipbc/releases
IPBC Pools:
https://mining.ipbc.rocks
https://mining.asia.ipbc.rocks
https://ipbc.herominers.com
https://cryptoknight.cc/ipbcrocks
https://xiaopool.com/ipbc
https://ipbc.thepiratemine.nl/
IPBC Block Explorers:
https://explorer.ipbc.rocks
Online Wallet:
Available in testnet, coming to mainnet at fork height!
Remote Node:
node.ipbc.rocks:24282
IPBC Blockchain.raw:
https://ipbc.rocks/blockchain.raw
Testnet:
https://testnet-mining.ipbc.rocks
https://testnet-explorer.ipbc.rocks
https://testnet-wallet.ipbc.rocks
testnet-explorer.ipbc.rocks:34282 (Remote node)
Community and Support:
Discord: https://discord.gg/g7cZmJ9
Twitter: https://twitter.com/IpbcR
Exchanges:
To be announced
Whitepapers:
Cryptonote Whitepaper (https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf)
RingCT Whitepaper (https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/921.pdf)
update 7/28/18: Due to overwhelming feedback from the community, we are changing the emission curve at fork height.
Total supply have been lowered from 1B to 250M, and emission factor has been decreased from 22 to 20.
The block reward at fork height will go down slightly, and will decrease about 4x faster compared to Bittube.
update 8/7/18: In light of the recent problems with bulletproof (double-count bug), and the incomplete technical reviews,
which won't be available until September, we have decided to disabled bulletproof.
Bulletproof will be enabled at a later date when it is confirmed production-ready.
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