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Topic: [ANN][EXCHANGE] SecureShift.io , instant crypto exchange (Read 226 times)
3. "I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange." :- It show minimum payment to address below this if user send coin it will refund. That was minimum amount you can start exchange on our platform according to pair selected.
Sorry, but this doesn't make sense. In all other exchanges, the exact number you chose for the exchange appears with a message telling you that you have to pay the exact amount, otherwise the transaction will not be accepted.In the above example the user tried putting 0.1BTC this means that a message should appear on the final invoice telling him that he has to pay exactly 0.1BTC to the address on the invoice.
If the user pays a wrong number to this address, how will he be able to get a refund? How will he be able to prove that he sent the amount to the specified address?
You can start exchange without calculating and send any amount (calculation will be performed on receipt) and if the user pays a wrong number to this address if the amount is enough to start exchange it will exchange according the amount deposited to address
requesting verification it will on rare case as a fund came from hack wallet or something link this type if incident of illegal activate.
So basically just like other instant exchange services which usually end up with a false positive. It is highly risky for the users and most of the time they don't have any ability to appeal either. What is your policy regarding false positives? Will you just keep the user funds regardless of the mistake? What is the guarantee that you don't flag them on purpose? 
3. "I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange." :- It show minimum payment to address below this if user send coin it will refund. That was minimum amount you can start exchange on our platform according to pair selected.
Sorry, but this doesn't make sense. In all other exchanges, the exact number you chose for the exchange appears with a message telling you that you have to pay the exact amount, otherwise the transaction will not be accepted.In the above example the user tried putting 0.1BTC this means that a message should appear on the final invoice telling him that he has to pay exactly 0.1BTC to the address on the invoice.
If the user pays a wrong number to this address, how will he be able to get a refund? How will he be able to prove that he sent the amount to the specified address?
we don't use any api of exchanges and we are not connected with ChangeNOW.
Do you have any legal data and where is this company registered and the legal license, and how it provides customer privacy and part of the license forces you to share user data with a third party.Why is the Binace logo present without adding any link? I also couldn't find the links for trustpilot.
Min amount does not appear until after clicking on Transfers.
I tried converting but it says Coins server under maintenance.
According to European AML directives, KYC regulations, and platform requirements.
It would be better if you include information on the site that this service complies with European regulations. Don't know which rule you're referring to, just found this European AML policy update:Quote
They set limits up to €7000 for cash payments and €1000 for crypto-asset transfers, where the customer cannot be identified.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20230327IPR78511/new-eu-measures-against-money-laundering-and-terrorist-financingYour opportunity to serve customers with privacy is €1k. More than that you're putting the customer at risk of requesting verification.
Overall, you really can't promise privacy guarantees as long as you comply with any regulation. You know, they hate privacy.
requesting verification it will on rare case as a fund came from hack wallet or something link this type if incident of illegal activate.
We are working hard so in feature we will offer better to user so there will be no kyc ask.
Doing €1000 of crypto exchanges or €100000 or any amount we don't ask anything until our system detect the fund user send to us is not came from any hack or something like this incident.
To add on more, I also noticed you folks have no maximum limits for the number of coins I can exchange, which I think is a flaw.
For example, if I needed to exchange 1,000,000 BTC for 15,364,415 ETH. Do you have that much Ether in your reserves? For a new service? I doubt.
For example, if I needed to exchange 1,000,000 BTC for 15,364,415 ETH. Do you have that much Ether in your reserves? For a new service? I doubt.
Yes We have. if the exchange amount was bigger than our Reserves then it will exchange with our liquidity providers.
Yes We are New
In addition to the privacy issue raised by members, I tried the service and had the following notes:
The first thing for finding coins is that you need to search for the coin manually and this takes a long time to find the desired coin within the long list of coins.
secondly:
Bitcoin exchange rate differs from the market price today, as the exchange rate was BTC=25293$, while the price in the market BTC=25950$ This means that the user will lose about 650$ for every 1 Bitcoin.
Also there is a difference in the exchange rate of BTC to USDT(Omni) and BTC to USDT(Tron) as shown in the pictures:
I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange.
The first thing for finding coins is that you need to search for the coin manually and this takes a long time to find the desired coin within the long list of coins.
secondly:
Bitcoin exchange rate differs from the market price today, as the exchange rate was BTC=25293$, while the price in the market BTC=25950$ This means that the user will lose about 650$ for every 1 Bitcoin.
Also there is a difference in the exchange rate of BTC to USDT(Omni) and BTC to USDT(Tron) as shown in the pictures:
I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange.
1. Finding coin you can search your desire coin . Our Platform don't use JS to Work over TOR properly.
2.Bitcoin exchanges rate difference :- All exchanges was done on market rate at time deposit detect by system you will get exact rate according to market.
3. "I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange." :- It show minimum payment to address below this if user send coin it will refund. That was minimum amount you can start exchange on our platform according to pair selected.
According to European AML directives, KYC regulations, and platform requirements.
It would be better if you include information on the site that this service complies with European regulations. Don't know which rule you're referring to, just found this European AML policy update:Quote
They set limits up to €7000 for cash payments and €1000 for crypto-asset transfers, where the customer cannot be identified.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20230327IPR78511/new-eu-measures-against-money-laundering-and-terrorist-financingYour opportunity to serve customers with privacy is €1k. More than that you're putting the customer at risk of requesting verification.
Overall, you really can't promise privacy guarantees as long as you comply with any regulation. You know, they hate privacy.
To add on more, I also noticed you folks have no maximum limits for the number of coins I can exchange, which I think is a flaw.
For example, if I needed to exchange 1,000,000 BTC for 15,364,415 ETH. Do you have that much Ether in your reserves? For a new service? I doubt.
For example, if I needed to exchange 1,000,000 BTC for 15,364,415 ETH. Do you have that much Ether in your reserves? For a new service? I doubt.
In addition to the privacy issue raised by members, I tried the service and had the following notes:
The first thing for finding coins is that you need to search for the coin manually and this takes a long time to find the desired coin within the long list of coins.
secondly:
Bitcoin exchange rate differs from the market price today, as the exchange rate was BTC=25293$, while the price in the market BTC=25950$ This means that the user will lose about 650$ for every 1 Bitcoin.
Also there is a difference in the exchange rate of BTC to USDT(Omni) and BTC to USDT(Tron) as shown in the pictures:
I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange.
The first thing for finding coins is that you need to search for the coin manually and this takes a long time to find the desired coin within the long list of coins.
secondly:
Bitcoin exchange rate differs from the market price today, as the exchange rate was BTC=25293$, while the price in the market BTC=25950$ This means that the user will lose about 650$ for every 1 Bitcoin.
Also there is a difference in the exchange rate of BTC to USDT(Omni) and BTC to USDT(Tron) as shown in the pictures:
I chose 0.1BTC as a trial, but when I complete the transaction, the final invoice shows the minimum payment as 0.00022BTC instead of the 0.1BTC I use for exchange.
We Use api for images and for market rates.
Based on the amount of supported cryptocurrencies, there are all indications that this site is a ChangeNOW API reseller,
It's safer to use ChangeNOW via Trocador instead. Anyway, ChangeNOW may freeze your funds and require KYC any time. They are known selective scammers.
It's safer to use ChangeNOW via Trocador instead. Anyway, ChangeNOW may freeze your funds and require KYC any time. They are known selective scammers.
we don't use any api of exchanges and we are not connected with ChangeNOW.
Based on the amount of supported cryptocurrencies, there are all indications that this site is a ChangeNOW API reseller,
It's safer to use ChangeNOW via Trocador instead. Anyway, ChangeNOW may freeze your funds and require KYC any time. They are known selective scammers.
It's safer to use ChangeNOW via Trocador instead. Anyway, ChangeNOW may freeze your funds and require KYC any time. They are known selective scammers.
Thanks for all questions.
As per logfiles questions :
"Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms? "
Ans: you receive ETH from Uniswap after that you exchange over our platform there will no issue of fund freeze and asking to verify KYC.
we freeze fund when it was flag by our system
Example: https://etherscan.io/address/0x8597546AFc29FC181A204C9378d1683e660b7189
if your ETH was directly came from this address or somehow it was link with this type of transactions then our system will flag the deposit of ETH and invited to go through KYC. According to European AML directives, KYC regulations, and platform requirements.
Our Recent Shifts show the latest exchanges happen on our platfrom
and history tab will show only user transactions history.( it's only show to the user) if you done any exchange either pending or complete it will show over there to user.
As per logfiles questions :
"Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms? "
Ans: you receive ETH from Uniswap after that you exchange over our platform there will no issue of fund freeze and asking to verify KYC.
we freeze fund when it was flag by our system
Example: https://etherscan.io/address/0x8597546AFc29FC181A204C9378d1683e660b7189
if your ETH was directly came from this address or somehow it was link with this type of transactions then our system will flag the deposit of ETH and invited to go through KYC. According to European AML directives, KYC regulations, and platform requirements.
"The point is that we have an automated risk prevention system implemented through which each transaction passes"
We Don't offer any fake services.
Our Recent Shifts show the latest exchanges happen on our platfrom
and history tab will show only user transactions history.( it's only show to the user) if you done any exchange either pending or complete it will show over there to user.
We are here for long terms services.
We don't trying to lure users through fake promises .
Since this is an announcement of a new service platform, I suppose this should be moved to Service Announcements section.
Anyway, it seems your platform is not yet fully ready. It has yet to be polished. For one, you're saying one thing and requires another. Echoing logfiles, you claim you believe in anonymity and yet you adhere to KYC/AML policies. Those two are mutually exclusive.
You claim you "honor the initial concept of cryptocurrency" and yet your ToS makes it clear that you bar individuals and entities that are sanctioned by political bodies. You impose a blanket ban based on geopolitics. That's censorship. That's one problem which crypto tries to solve.
There are three items under your Announcements: 1. "Unlimited", 2. "Anonymity", 3. "NO LIMIT." I don't how numbers 1 and 3 are different from each other. Also, your history tab doesn't have any data.
Anyway, it seems your platform is not yet fully ready. It has yet to be polished. For one, you're saying one thing and requires another. Echoing logfiles, you claim you believe in anonymity and yet you adhere to KYC/AML policies. Those two are mutually exclusive.
You claim you "honor the initial concept of cryptocurrency" and yet your ToS makes it clear that you bar individuals and entities that are sanctioned by political bodies. You impose a blanket ban based on geopolitics. That's censorship. That's one problem which crypto tries to solve.
There are three items under your Announcements: 1. "Unlimited", 2. "Anonymity", 3. "NO LIMIT." I don't how numbers 1 and 3 are different from each other. Also, your history tab doesn't have any data.
You talk about full privacy and anonymity, yet your exchange has a full section of AML procedure in the TOS. How does that work?
Isn't this like giving your customers a false sense of privacy, but then at one point you hijack their transactions and ask them to send the documents and data they thought they would never need to send to you?
Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms?
Surely you know that these new platforms are trying to lure users through fake promises that they maintain complete privacy for use and that they will not ask for any data as if they are a fully decentralized platform. At the same time, they are keen to include the conditions for verifying identity in the TOS to justify any move against any of the activities of users later, knowing that most people do not read these conditions before use.Isn't this like giving your customers a false sense of privacy, but then at one point you hijack their transactions and ask them to send the documents and data they thought they would never need to send to you?
Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms?
I guess they didn't think that the users on Bitcointalk weren't as naive as they thought and they were certainly very disappointed after reading the comments here.
Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I didn't see any indication that this service is subject to any specific jurisdictional regulation, which for the time being I conclude all decisions regarding the status of user funds and verification requests are based on the service's internal initiative.That's a questionable offer of privacy.
You talk about full privacy and anonymity, yet your exchange has a full section of AML procedure in the TOS. How does that work?
Isn't this like giving your customers a false sense of privacy, but then at one point you hijack their transactions and ask them to send the documents and data they thought they would never need to send to you?
Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms?
Isn't this like giving your customers a false sense of privacy, but then at one point you hijack their transactions and ask them to send the documents and data they thought they would never need to send to you?
Also, who determines a link to criminal activity?
I receive my ETH from Uniswap after a trade and send the funds through your service to get Bitcoins and hold my funds citing suspicious activity which I have no idea about. Does that make me criminal in your terms?
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AML Procedure
4.1.To make an Exchange in the Service, the User does not have to register or log in to the Service system and provide personal data. However, when the User sends funds that are clearly related to criminal activity, the User's Order may be suspended in order to request details about the origin of the funds sent until the requested information is provided.
4.2.SecureShift may determine a direct link to criminal activity based on information from business partners, public sources, victim complaints against SecureShift, and law enforcement requests.
4.3.SecureShift reserves the right not to disclose the source of information about the connection of funds sent by the User with criminal activity.
4.4.By accepting these Terms, you acknowledge and agree that the transaction you sent can be verified using the security system of the Service.
4.5.By accepting these Terms, you acknowledge and agree to provide full details of the origin of the funds sent by you and confirm the honesty and legality of the receipt of these funds upon suspension of the Order and the corresponding request by SecureShift.
4.6.By accepting these Terms, you agree and warrant that true, accurate, current and complete information about the origin of funds sent is provided and you take full responsibility for its accuracy, completeness and reliability.
4.7.The data must be provided directly by the sender of funds under the Order.
4.8.If you refuse to provide data about the origin of the funds sent or provide false data, and if the data you provide confirms your connection to criminal activity, SecureShift has the right to freeze the funds for the subsequent return of funds to the victims with the assistance of law enforcement agencies.
4.9.In some cases, when for objective reasons the User cannot provide sufficient evidence of the source of the funds received, as well as in the case of a personal acquaintance of the sender with the alleged criminal who sent the funds to the User, as an exception, the User may be asked to undergo identity verification.
4.1.To make an Exchange in the Service, the User does not have to register or log in to the Service system and provide personal data. However, when the User sends funds that are clearly related to criminal activity, the User's Order may be suspended in order to request details about the origin of the funds sent until the requested information is provided.
4.2.SecureShift may determine a direct link to criminal activity based on information from business partners, public sources, victim complaints against SecureShift, and law enforcement requests.
4.3.SecureShift reserves the right not to disclose the source of information about the connection of funds sent by the User with criminal activity.
4.4.By accepting these Terms, you acknowledge and agree that the transaction you sent can be verified using the security system of the Service.
4.5.By accepting these Terms, you acknowledge and agree to provide full details of the origin of the funds sent by you and confirm the honesty and legality of the receipt of these funds upon suspension of the Order and the corresponding request by SecureShift.
4.6.By accepting these Terms, you agree and warrant that true, accurate, current and complete information about the origin of funds sent is provided and you take full responsibility for its accuracy, completeness and reliability.
4.7.The data must be provided directly by the sender of funds under the Order.
4.8.If you refuse to provide data about the origin of the funds sent or provide false data, and if the data you provide confirms your connection to criminal activity, SecureShift has the right to freeze the funds for the subsequent return of funds to the victims with the assistance of law enforcement agencies.
4.9.In some cases, when for objective reasons the User cannot provide sufficient evidence of the source of the funds received, as well as in the case of a personal acquaintance of the sender with the alleged criminal who sent the funds to the User, as an exception, the User may be asked to undergo identity verification.
SecureShift.io is a reliable, user-friendly, and relatively faster service for cryptocurrency exchanges. We offer no hassles for sign-up, and we support over 300 cryptocurrencies. We focus on making our cryptocurrency exchange processes as unsophisticated as possible.
SecureShift.io has made the cryptocurrency exchange processes safe, simple, and comfortable.
No sign-up is required.
No need to store funds.
Both floating and fixed rates are available.
Platform listed over 300 cryptocurrencies.
We offer reliable service as we do not have mass system failures.
User-friendly interface.
24/7 support.
No need to store funds.
Both floating and fixed rates are available.
Platform listed over 300 cryptocurrencies.
We offer reliable service as we do not have mass system failures.
User-friendly interface.
24/7 support.
Feel free to ask us any questions, we will be happy to answer them in this thread. 
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