Topic: [ANN][ICO][Airdrop] MONEY BACK COIN |Binance/Bittrex| ETHEREUM (Read 1074 times)

Scam project !!!

I will wait and want to join this exciting project. Good luck dev

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"Well that doesn't prevent you from scamming at all."

This has already taken a huge amount of effort to bring people together. If it was a scam, we could have easily copied multiple ideas, multiple roadmaps and whitepapers and used our identity and dev. backgrounds to make the whole process a lot easier.

We have no interest in scamming anyone and if we had enough money we would have distributed all the coins for free!

Seeing our faces doesn't make anything scam proof, it just makes you feel comfortable.

I already explained in a previous post that Binance and Bittrex required a sizeable community and voting system before considering any listing. It's not about the idea it is about traction and whether there are enough people to trade it.

There is literally nothing else we can say to prove this isn't a scam, and feel pointless trying to defend against this idea.

As mentioned we are open to expanding on ideas and suggestions etc.

The long and short of Money Back Coin is together we can form a large enough syndicate that has enough buying power to move markets, enough inside knowledge to share and a few dedicated resources that can help every member of Project Money Back understand and profit in the market.

This was always going to be a project based on trust hence the reason we only wanted to start the project with large numbers and only have each person buy 1 coin to cover the Airdrop.

We are sorry if we cannot make you feel any more comfortable with the idea, if you have a suggestion please mention it. If you are not interested that is fine, you don't have to get involved.

No person here is forced to get involved, but any one who wants to come together, develop/grow this syndicate and Make money. Keep sharing.

How do we know this isn't a scam?!
This project will only work if the numbers are large. Therefore, we will only release MNBK Coin under the following conditions:

We have built a sizeable syndicate/community.

Well that doesn't prevent you from scamming at all. You also have provided literally 0 information about who made the coin or who is behind the team if there is even a team, your roadmap is basically pointless, you advertise as Binance/Bittrex when you know that's not going to happen. ''MNBK gets listed on Exchanges (March/April 2018)'' How do you know? Certainly not on Bittrex or Binance, there are amazing coins out there that still aren't on Binance.

Guys the whitepaper is on the website.

It's not a scam and all of the information is on the website.

You cannot expect the Airdrop to be for Free with the type of project we have created!!

Please read all the details it is extremely clear!

Everyone jumping into thousands of ICOs for a free airdrop is doing so for selfish reasons and not understanding that the free airdrop puts the ICO that needs money fromyou in deficit to begin with!

This is a good project with the right mindset.

If you are not interested that is ok! Just do not participate.

Many people are signing up expecting the Airdrop to be free.

YOU NEED 1 MNBK COIN TO GET THE 5,000 COIN AIRDROP - WE HAVE EXPLAINED WHY ON THE WEBSITE

ANYONE INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY TOGETHER SIGN UP!

https://projectmoneyback.org

The idea is good but no whitepaper, no information about team dev. And 2000 slots need purchase MNBK, why don't free airdrop? 

I think that will be a big scam project here in the forum again. Announcing Bittrex and Binance before has not even made ETN or Universa. So I think it's scam. I will not participate in the Airdrop. It also does not seem to be a real Airdrop. That's the first negative here

How to join airdrop and patricapte?

when whitepapaer will be publish

It seems that you are basically trying to create a pump and dump group yourself. '' individuals pulling out during the dips lose money.'' Dips are inevitable in any market, nothing can go up forever nor anyone can profit, it's basic knowledge.

i will follow this project closely.

I thought Airdrop is FREE. Took me awhile to figureout that i need to join your mailing list so I can join the Airdrop. And then I realized I have to BUY your Coin FIRST before you will give me an airdrop. I'm Unsubscribing for now. please include this info in your post.

Do your research. Blockchain isn't what made bitcoin explode!
It was the ability to get it to the community.

Usage governed it's value.
The community that buys most cryptocurrencies are Passive!
This means that they are a community by chance not actively or together.

The reason whales and institutions make profit and don't lose in crypto is because they form large groups with a shared and focused goal in mind.
Weak hands lose money, individuals pulling out during the dips lose money.

Not everyone here has enough funds to compete with Whale groups or institutions.

Hence, why our focus is on building an active community with a shared interest of making money, creating buying power as a collective.

Say what you will. This certainly isn't a scam.

This is action!

"Dude, it's impossible for every owner of any coin to be in profit, someone has to be selling at a lower price than what they bought eventually, unless the demand is infinite, which is not. Have you seen the market recently? You think people who bought bitcoin at 20k have profited now because of the demand? Volume is still the same so by your logic everyone should be profiting at all times buying any coin because of demand."

We are not going to have the entire crypto community join forces with us, especially institutions or private whale groups.
But we can compete with them by becoming larger and expanding, bringing a coin on to the market, having a dedicated forum, making market moves as a collective.
It is those private groups and institutions that lose out against such a community!

So actually the logic works just fine! What doesn't work is your belief in people working together. You think that is impossible. Maybe it is because you wouldn't work with other people.

You are one person. It's not our loss it is yours.

BARDMAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED?

I can already tell this is going to be a scam.

''@BARDMAN - explain to everyone what made Bitcoin work?? Aside blockchain???''

Rofl? What do you mean ''ASIDE'' from the blockchain? That's what made bitcoin work, it's the first coin, the first to actually implement the blockchain. Your coin is just another of the countless coins without any purpose.

''What you are referring to is dumping. No one has to lose money so others profit. That is not how supply and demand works.''

Dude, it's impossible for every owner of any coin to be in profit, someone has to be selling at a lower price than what they bought eventually, unless the demand is infinite, which is not. Have you seen the market recently? You think people who bought bitcoin at 20k have profited now because of the demand? Volume is still the same so by your logic everyone should be profiting at all times buying any coin because of demand.

"However it's impossible for everyone to make money, someone has to lose money so others can profit." ARE YOU SERIOUS??

What you are referring to is dumping. No one has to lose money so others profit. That is not how supply and demand works. The losers are those without the coin.

It's no different to you going to the shop to buy your favourite item but it's out of stock! Did you lose money or lose out on the item?


Did you even read the project? The demand comes from the community.
There are plenty of people that want this project to work and understand that it will take the efforts of everyone to make it happen. The entire eco-system of Cryptocurrencies is based on community belief and effort.

@BARDMAN - explain to everyone what made Bitcoin work?? Aside blockchain???

We don't think you understand cryptocurrency at all. It is based purely on numbers and the numbers need to be high!



@Shapeshiftcam

At the beginning of the project our aim was to focus on Bittrex and Binance - we asked what it would take to get listed. Their response was in short the size of the community and the demand.

Exchanges care little about a project. They care more about the size and the numbers. How else do you think they profit?

TO EVERY SKEPTIC IN THIS GROUP.....YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE PROJECT AND WE WILL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

IF YOU CANNOT SEE THAT THE SUCCESS OF CRYPTOCURRENCY AS A WHOLE HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH PROJECTS AND MORE WITH A PASSIVE-COLLECTIVE BELIEF THEN CRYPTO IS NOT FOR YOU


@Kaze160890

There is no spreadsheet. Sign up to the mailing list you will receive an email.
The spreadsheet showing other people's email addresses/ personal details will not be revealed, to respect the wishes of those that want to be kept private.

I have join telegram and retweet. Where i can found the spreadsheet?

You mean you will be listing on bittrex and binance? LOL, this must be a joke and scam project.

I see this is a very good potential for long-term investments, starting from the same supply as bitcoin. hopefully this so bitcoin next generation. keep it building powerfull and effective team program  Cool

''The coin being just a digital currency, not tied to any far future projects or centralized companies, makes it instantly tradeable.'' However it's impossible for everyone to make money, someone has to lose money so others can profit.

''As the demand grows'' How is the demand going to grow exactly?

''If we created an open syndicate without the coin, what motivates people to act on the information, or even look out for each other?'' What will motivate people on your syndicate to look out for each other? Are you giving coins to people who participate in meaningful ways? Otherwise I don't see why or how this would work. Eventually the few enthusiasts that actually participate will get bored and leave.

And yes I'm extremely skeptical because it seems that everyone wants to involve ICOs and coins into their projects without any reason.

where can i join in this airdrop?
please clue Dev!

The Money Back Coin serves multiple purposes:


1) The coin is how everyone involved is going to make money. As the community grows, so does the demand. As the demand grows the supply of the coin diminishes, as the supply diminishes the value of the coin increases. As it's value increases the more options every single Money Back Coin holder has. (This is simplified. There are factors involved between each stage).

The coin being just a digital currency, not tied to any far future projects or centralized companies, makes it instantly tradeable. We create its intrinsic value from the very start by being a large and open syndicate.

Pushing for the coin to be on exchanges (decentralized and centralized), used with merchants as well as hedged against other coins is where the eco-system propels the entire #projectmoneyback syndicate into full motion.

Loyalties derive from results. If we get results together, we trust together and grow together. Anonymity doesn't have to be breached! We just need to maintain our common goal of making profit and sharing information.

2)If we created an open syndicate without the coin, what motivates people to act on the information, or even look out for each other?
The syndicate would without the coin be much like BitcoinTalk or Twitter or any group space. Where individuals throw ideas out there but not many care to listen, or feel invested enough or compelled enough to listen. But when money is involved and you can have a direct input/effect from the genesis,
 then the motivation is high, your commitment is high.

Anymore questions???
We are happy to answer all questions to the best of our ability and happy for everyone in this group to answer too.
Those that have already signed up to the mailing list play a major role in shaping Money Back Coin's future!

P.s. @Bardman we appreciate you being very thorough.
And although we detect some skepticism, it indicates to us that you too have been burnt in the past.
Care to share how it happened? If not no problem.

But what do you need a coin for? You could just create a syndicate/forum for the specific reasons you mentioned without the need of a coin. If what you want is people sharing information together, you don't really need any coin for that. The coin itself is going to be meaningless for what you are trying to achieve because it's going to be a coin without any real use.

This is correct.

In regards to releasing a spreadsheet many people aren't happy about having their email addresses released etc. For obvious reasons.

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MAJOR UPDATE REGARDING MONEY BACK COIN [MNBK]:

WE HAVE A NEW DETAILED AND UPDATED WHITEPAPER THANKS TO CONTRIBUTIONS FROM MANY MEMBERS.

DO SPEND TIME READING IT AND SHARING IT

https://projectmoneyback.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Money-Back-Coin-Whitepaper.pdf

Please be patient regarding the ICO details. We only want to release this once the numbers are high enough or have hit the cap of 2000.
 Although we allocated a total of 30-days for the list to fill up. We are nearly full with just over 100 spaces left. Everyone give one last push and get the whitepaper/ retweets out to as many people as possible.

Also feedback or suggestions on understanding the whitepaper are always welcomed!!

I think as long as you have confirmed the subscription, you are on the list. They will give you further information once all the slots are filled. So the main thing to make sure now is the subscription confirmation and wait for the further instruction.

how we can see already listed or not, there is no spreadsheet..?

Great and welcome to the team!!!!

More updates to come very soon! We have had plenty of contributions/suggestions sent to us that is helping to evolve Project Money Back and the Money Back Coin.

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@BARDMAN

The entire point of #ProjectMoneyBack is to make profit together, recover lost funds, look out for each other anonymously or publicly (your choice) via an open and shared information. Not to just be a telegram, facebook, twitter or forum group. But to be a group that grows organically, no referral/affiliate system, no promises of high return by paying out old investors with new investor funds.

Just a large enough syndicate with enough collective influence and buying power to add value to the Money Back Coin and share in it's ownership, trade information together and keep making money.

What you are talking about is the odd few people that have their own interests at heart not the many. Trading the coin on the exchanges is beneficial to our eco-system. The more trading volume that Money Back Coin has the better.

We are confused by what you don't understand?

Try looking at it from a collective angle rather than individual. You are worried that people will be individual...that is fine it has no effect to the overall collective.

TRY TO UNDERSTAND. PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING INVOLVED WITH #PROJECTMONEYBACK HAVE A SHARED INTEREST!

This project looks good to me. Your goal is achievable and more realistic! Count me in! I'm looking forward to seeing this project take its place! More power dev!

By the way, Already followed your Twitter and joined the Telegram as well. Also subscribed to the mailing on your website!

Good luck!

Actually I'm still very much confused. There are plenty of coins with huge communities already. Once you get the token/coin to any exchange, anyone can sell and buy the token/coin just like any other coins. What is really the point of this?

Sounds good. Great to see things are moving fast for you. Thanks again for keeping us posted!

You have to join the mailing list. It is on the homepage.

Once all spaces have been filled or the mailing date ends (which-ever comes first) then we will email everyone the Airdrop details.

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UPDATE: please everyone read the entire site as it explains the Airdrop alongside the entire roadmap of #Project Money Back

https://projectmoneyback.org

where i can follow this airdrop.
I did not find this project form.

You have to sign up to the mailing list. Only those on the mailing list will receive details for the AirDrop.

As of writing this there are still spaces on the mailing list.

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***UPDATE***

We are hoping that the list fulls up by the end of today. If it does everyone will receive emails with the Airdrop details.
It is important that everyone put's their effort in as a community and does their part in sharing information, verifying information retweeting each other etc.

Collectively, there is so much we can do in the crypto-market, especially as REGULATION tries to close in.

https://projectmoneyback.org

Hi manager, I've looked at the website but have not seen a link for airdrop registration. Can the manager send the airdrop Money Back Coin registration link?

It is highly unlikely that someone would buy up the entire intial supply as there are only 2000 coins released for it.
Therefore, if someone does attempt to do that they are thwarting their own efforts to make any money as our coin relies purely on a community effort, and we have already stated that one airdrop per ETH address. Are you prepared to set up 2000 addresses?

Regarding pumping the coin again, the movement of the coin is a joint effort. We are purely growing this syndicate organically. No adverts, No ICO websites purely word of mouth and effort involved from everyone.

The point of coming together is that a joint effort delivers stability and profitability in larger numbers, the bigger our community the more that can be achieved.

What isn't listed on the website is the dedicated open forum that will be listed on https://projectmoneback.org

Hope this helps to clear up any confusion...and if not please let us know what more you want to understand.

''The syndicate can share information openly and anonymously, thwarting many pump and dump efforts.'' ''For MNBK to truly work and benefit everyone we NEED a large community. Not 50 people buying the entire ICO supply!!!''

Many flaws in your project, you are basically saying that you need to trust people anonymously in order for your project to work. As you said there is nothing you can do to stop anyone from buying more coins and if someone does and he will, wouldn't that just defeat the whole purpose of this? What about after it gets to an exchange? Wouldn't someone be able to just buy as many coins as he wants and dump them later on? I don't really understand the idea here.

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to members of the Money Back Community reaching out...we have been able to update our FAQ section

It is now easier to understand project goals and Money Back Coin has expanded beyond burnt investors. The community is really pooling together

All support is still needed. More suggestions. More shout outs and more coming together to help us form the biggest open syndicate in the crypto-space

NO MORE WHALES! LET'S DO SOMETHING BIGGER. LET'S EAT THE WHALES FOR BREAKFAST

Head to twitter and RETWEET our pinned tweet!

https://twitter.com/moneybackcoin

We have thought about this and are very much prepared to do it.

A figure hasn't been set as of yet but our aim is to reach as many people as possible and get this syndicate growing.

If you have any suggestions we would love to hear them.


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UPDATE!!!!!

ALL 2000 SPACES FOR THE ICO AND 5K AIRDROP ARE NEARLY FULL!!!

IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF #ProjectMoneyBack and HAVEN'T SIGNED UP YET DO SO QUICKLY

IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP. SPREAD THE WORD VIA TWITTER AND OTHER PLATFORMS

Can we see a second airdrop after march 2018 ?

We love the support so far.

We have already started to develop a forum that will be dedicated to Money Back Coin holders.

Any suggestions of information people want to share please do so freely!

We aim to answer any questions as best as we can!

I am convinced that the idea is very original indeed in this big crypto world we need an organisation to defend the investors especially the newbies one

For now yes joining the mailing list is all.

It benefits the entire community that are interested in #projectmoneyback if you are able to retweet our whitepaper and website etc.

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UPDATE FOR EVERYONE: The support in the last 48hours has been huge, especially via Twitter and other forums.

It's only been 3-4 days!! We now have only a couple of hundred spaces left on the mailing list out of 2000.

Thank everyone for coming together.

Keep sharing, talking, promoting and building the community.

So i have joined the Mailing list how i will sign up for the Airdrop
and should i donate to receive Tokens !!

So joining the mailing list is everything necessary to be eligible? I really like your idea. Hope new updates will follow soon.

Welcome to the family. You are not alone!!!

Quite a few crypto-veterans that were hit by MtGox have signed up.

Everyone is excited, the feedback and support alongside the retweets in the last 4hours has been phenomenal.

So far it is looking like we will hit Phase 1 by the end of this week if not by mid next week.

Still a few hundred spaces left on the mailing list.

We just need to keep getting the word out to everyone!

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@The_Don

We thank you for the feedback!! We, alongside the entire community will definitely let you know once we begin listing on exchanges.

The ETA for that will likely be March.

as a former mtgox-victim i'm happy to join your coin

website design and startup is good .. let us know once it get listed on some exchanges .. also joined you on telegram . best of luck

Thank you for the positivity!

All you need to do for now is join our mailing list on our website: https://projectmoneyback.org

The mailing list is capped to 2000 so be sure to confirm your email once signing up.

Those on the mailing list will be able to participate in the ICO and 5,000 MNBK Airdrop.


Once you have done that spread the word about Money Back Coin to people you know, share via twitter, telegram, facebook and other forums.

Be sure to follow our:

Twitter: - https://twitter.com/moneybackcoin
Telegram - https://t.me/projectmoneyback


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The same applies to everyone reading this!

As a large syndicate together we can trade information, protect each other from scrupulous ICOs and projects as well as have a stake in a coin that we have all been able to push to get listed on exchanges and potentially accepted at a few merchants.

This is as honest as we can get about an industry that is upheld purely by trust!

Any questions or suggestions are welcomed!!

what must i do for join this project and airdrop

this will be a great coin in the future

Actually, that wasn't a question, I was just saying that I will be watching your development and follow it with interest, BUT thanks for the information! That was beyond the call of duty, but that makes it even better IMO!  

Money Back Coin [MNBK] is how you are going to return our money which was lost in false ICO and projects.
This is a good project I support entirely !!!!!!!!!!

We will be monitoring all the channels we speak on and doing our best to update regularly.

In terms of development. #projectmoneyback is for everyone. So it is designed purely to be a decentralized alternative currency.

Whilst there are plenty of ICOs attached to start-ups that promise something revolutionary with blockchain technology. Many of them are scams or have unrealistic timeframes set for such a new piece of technology.

In addition, we believe that the more Cryptocurrencies that are attached to centralized companies, the more that the cryptocurrency space is vunerable to regulation and centralization.

SO, to answer you question regarding development, our focus will be to keep growing the community, get MNBK Coin into as many hands as possible and on as many exchanges as possible...and finally create dedicated multiple channels/forums for Money Back Coin holders to interchange helpful and valuable information in the crypto-space.

Thanks for your kind words and the swift, detailed reply. Highly appreciated and it's all clear to me now, I wish everyone would give such good answers in such a timely manner.

If you operate your business like that, you definitely deserve some success. I'm curious about how this will develop in the future. All I have seen so far seems really promising and serious. Good luck for now!

Great!! Thanks for signing up!

Great Questions!

Until listed on exchanges and fully distributed the coin is pegged to the value of ETH.

We are expecting serious people to sign up to the mailing list. Once the list is full we will begin the ICO of 2000 coins to be purchased.
The minimum coins to be purchased by the end of the date that we have listed on the website should be at a minimum of 1000 for us to automatically move on to Phase 3 (5,000 AIRDROP to all coin holders)

If in such a scenario we hit below - our targets in the intial coin release: We will simply put it to a private vote and those that have purchased a coin can decide whether to extend the ico or release the remaining coins to the public or lastly opt to be refunded (minus the gas tx fee).

I have registered and I have a few questions:

If the value of ETH changes significantly by the time you are starting the sale of the 1 coin will you adjust the price accordingly?

What if 2000 people register but only let's say 1800 (or simply not each of them) buy 1 coin each?

Anyway, good luck!

Cool project, it's like a crypto police online.
help forum users to solve many SCAM problems in any crypto forum. I hope this project will run smoothly

Hi yes.

We have just updated our main post with the link to the whitepaper!
Be sure to follow us on twitter and telegram.

Here is a link to the whitepaper: https://projectmoneyback.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Money-Back-Coin-Whitepaper.pdf

We are all excited and hoping to create a large community.

I registered immediately, a nice ad

Is there a White Paper, including a breakdown of how the token sale is structured and the total number of tokens that will ultimately be in circulation?

This is going to be a nice project, but with all due respect I think people would like to have a small crew about the people behind the project.

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