Topic: [ANN][P2POOL][DOGE] Dogecoin P2Pool fun (Read 4527 times)

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Ahh ok. Yes it might seem like they get more when they have shares in the share chain on the Payouts list, but the "hidden" information there is that the tiny miners often will have 0 shares in the share chain. Small miners can't be paid all of the time because they would make more than they are supposed to. Since there is a minimum difficulty for shares, the only way for people to get correct average earnings if they are below that difficulty is by having a payment window that isn't "all of the time". Of course, when getting paid, the small miner might look like he's getting more. But it's only because his payment window is smaller than the bigger miner.

People shouldn't confuse the payout amount on the share chain at any given time with a projected average daily earnings or anything like that...

@roy7, Thats exactly what I tried to explain. This topic is so hard for me as a non-native english speaker and I keep getting this question over and over again.

You don't get more if you split your hashrate. But for everyone only checking a single node it looks like someone with 20 kH/s is getting more. This is basicly what I tried to explain.

@dogfav, No. It simply doesnt matter if you mine a single node or multiple nodes.

Sorry for the confusion! It's all about my english skills lol...

I can't imagine how this would be correct. The # of nodes you are on and how much you split your hash power doesn't impact how long it will take you to find a valid share. And your valid shares are what get you paid. 20 kH/s on 100 nodes or 2MH/s on 1 node should have exactly the same expected and average incomes over time.

Thank you for the explanation! So if I understand it, it is better to change strategy to "balance" to increase payouts ? and is it fuctioning on any kH/s? :-)

P2Pool is a distributed pool with many nodes on the network.

If you mine with 2 MH/s on 100 nodes with a balanced cgminer (Pool management -> change strategy -> balance) it will show up on each node with 20 kH/s but having higher payout than someone who is mining with 100kH/s on a single node. Do you understand what I mean?

You answered at Vertcoin forum to question of one guy (user Abar) about differences of payouts at your Doge P2Pool.

Question was: "No DOGE received from this pool in one day mining (750kh\s) while one other guy with 20Kh\s receives 1000-2000 DOGE every hours."

Your answer was: "If you see one guy with 20kH/s getting super huge payouts, he has probably configured his cgminer to use multiple nodes. I encourage everyone to do that aswell. I dont only recommend to set them as failover backup nodes though."

I see similar thing at this example of 2 miners in same time in your pool:
   left column - miner with avg 20.2kH/s         right column - miner with avg 104kH/s
   
Sun Mar 02 2014 00:24:00 GMT+0100    58.8      Sun Mar 02 2014 00:24:00 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 20:28:48 GMT+0100    85.9      Sat Mar 01 2014 20:28:48 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 16:33:36 GMT+0100    89.3      Sat Mar 01 2014 16:33:36 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 12:38:24 GMT+0100    68.4      Sat Mar 01 2014 12:38:24 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 08:43:12 GMT+0100    35.7      Sat Mar 01 2014 08:43:12 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 04:48:00 GMT+0100    313      Sat Mar 01 2014 04:48:00 GMT+0100    0
Sat Mar 01 2014 00:52:48 GMT+0100    248      Sat Mar 01 2014 00:52:48 GMT+0100    46.9
Fri Feb 28 2014 20:57:36 GMT+0100    240      Fri Feb 28 2014 20:57:36 GMT+0100    45.5
Fri Feb 28 2014 17:02:24 GMT+0100    28      Fri Feb 28 2014 17:02:24 GMT+0100    36.8
Fri Feb 28 2014 13:07:12 GMT+0100    68.8      Fri Feb 28 2014 13:07:12 GMT+0100    0
Fri Feb 28 2014 09:12:00 GMT+0100    0      Fri Feb 28 2014 09:12:00 GMT+0100    0

Could you explain me please, what did you mean with use of multiple nodes or write here or in PM configuration of cgminer?

Or is there other explanation of this differences? I thing that stale ratio of both miners was similar. For example at Sat Mar 01 2014 00:52:48 had miner with avg 20.2kH/s 5x more payout then miner with avg 104kH/s.....
Depends it on number of shares accepted or solved of difficulty greater than the P2Pool share target per day?

Thanks for your answer.

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Difficulty
If you wish to manually control your pseudo-share difficulty outside of the range provided by the dynamic system you can do the following:

For example for my R9 270x I use:

The following are suggested targets for various hash rates if you want to grab one quickly:

KHash/s	Difficulty
50	+0.00005821
100	+0.00011641
250	+0.00029103
500	+0.00058207
750	+0.00087310
1000	+0.00116414

Please note

• P2Pool payments can take up to 24 hours to ramp up after you start mining, please wait this long before seeking assistance
• Payouts require that you solve at least one share of difficulty greater than the P2Pool share target per day.
• Decreasing intensity can help your stale rates massively, and will improve your payouts in most cases.
• You will notice an increased stale rate in your miner compared to a traditional pool, this is normal and expected behaviour for P2Pool (~5-10%)